Chinese Diesel Heaters

jims-terrano · 10-12-2019, 23:44

Has anyone had anything to do with the chinese diesel heaters that’s sold on eBay for about £100?
Thinking about getting one and fitting it under slung on my vw van because it’ll be protected by plastic shields underneath the van. All I need is the controller and hot air vent inside the van.

solarman216 · 10-12-2019, 23:54

Link please Jim, Rick

solarman216 · 11-12-2019, 00:05

OK found them £129 can only say my experience is with the Eberspecker (forgive spelling) one for trucks boats etc, 5Kw same but cost 20 odd years ago was £1200.00 and while very good maintenance was high, and a barstuard to do, no idea how these cheapies will last but we were live aboards so got used every day, guess occasional camping prob OK and lets face it cheap enough,Rick

solarman216 · 11-12-2019, 00:11

Eberspacker ones around £800 today, Rick

jims-terrano · 11-12-2019, 00:33

Yeah those are the ones Rick, some really good reviews on YouTube and some are even cheaper at different outlets. There’s a new model just coming onto the market that heats what too but that’s excessive for my needs.
To be honest if one lasts two or three years I wouldn’t be too upset.

solarman216 · 11-12-2019, 00:42

I am thinking of getting one for the Mobile we rent out, Calor is so expensive, Rick

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 12-12-2019, 23:25

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rayf3262 · 13-12-2019, 13:02

There is a Chinese diesel heater group on FB:
"Chinese Diesel Vehicle air heaters" there are many useful user comments experiences here.

I have had no direct experience with the Chinese products.

There are principally two common types of Eberspacher vehicle heaters; the D2 and D5. The D2 is the unit is rated at 2KW and most copied by the Chinese.
This unit is intended to be fitted inside the vehicle and delivers hot air diectly to the cabin.

The D5 is a similar product rated at 5KW BUT is is designed to heat water and is typically fitted to provide direct heating of the engine coolant system. This type of heater is fitted to many modern vehicles with efficient diesel engines as at low load these engines struggle to provide useful heat to the cabin and take a long time warm up.

The VW/Ford Sharaxy is often fitted with a D5 unit, it can be found mounted on the underside of the vehicle beneath the rear N/S passenger seat. I have purchased two of these from my local breaker for the princely sum of £20 each.
Including stainless steel exhaust silencer, which if you are parking in proximity to other campers you will need as they do sound like a small jet engine when running at full chat.

I have one fitted in the camper to provide hot water (calorifier) and additional heater matrix to heat the rear cabin.
The other is fitted in my workshop for heating. This consists of the D5, a car heater matrix mounted with a 230V AC blower and a CH circulation pump.
The workshop is around 90 M3 in volume, this arrangement can raise the workshop temperature from ~5deg C to ~18deg C in around 35~40 mins and easily maintain or exceed that. It uses less than 0.5L of fuel per hour, so even using DERV it costs around 65 pence/hour to run. Central heating oil or red diesel would of course cost less.

These heaters are also happy to run on kerosene/paraffin and this will reduce the servicing requirements due to the cleaner burn, however the heat output will be a little lower due to the superior calorific value of diesel. Given internal the volume of a van the option of a small (5-10L) tank that you can fill with the fuel of choice allows some flexibility here. It is also somewhat easier than fitting an addition fuel take off from the vehicle tank.

terranosaurusdoug · 18-12-2019, 22:18

I will be getting one eventually Jim, I want to set mine on a timer so I don't have to scrape ice on the winter mornings

jims-terrano · 18-12-2019, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by terranosaurusdoug

I will be getting one eventually Jim, I want to set mine on a timer so I don't have to scrape ice on the winter mornings

This morning I really Wished I’d got one brrrrrrr it wa freezin

It’ll be a whole lot easier to fit in a Terrano especially plumbing into vehicle tank

panelbeater · 19-12-2019, 10:04

i fill my gas bottles up at petrol stations,not the expencive refillable ones,my addaptor has a one way valve built in,in fact jim tightened it all up after i stripped it down to reseal all the joints when i was at jims having my 3l sorted.
on the road lpg prices vary but a lot of stations wont let you fill up unless fitted in unit.
when van parked up i connect a 47kg to heat it when i stay in it,needed a calour refill but cost £72 delivered,my mate there had 2 as well but when he told me how much i nearly fainted,he is near thetford forrest,i am in clacton,i phoned around here as i have lpg at home for cooking and the same was £52 calour or £53 flowgas,he was not happy and phoned calour and got thats the price,so i say why the difference.
i took my 1 of my 47s up there but its not worth the 140 mile and heaving about to get them there from here.
he used to turn upside down a 47 to fill his smaller bottles but i sort them now as he had a leak when i was ther and stoped him doing that for safty.he is 84 still able bit like jim.
when i was at jims for the extended stay i put my last bottle of gas on and jim offered me some but i had enough,want to talk to jim about his lpg set up sometime.
i am thinking about a chinese heater to boost my large front room 28x19 as it takes so long to heat it so i leave oil heating on 24 seven .

10-12-2019, 23:44	#1
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Chinese Diesel Heaters Has anyone had anything to do with the chinese diesel heaters that’s sold on eBay for about £100? Thinking about getting one and fitting it under slung on my vw van because it’ll be protected by plastic shields underneath the van. All I need is the controller and hot air vent inside the van.

10-12-2019, 23:54	#2
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Link please Jim, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

11-12-2019, 00:05	#3
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	OK found them £129 can only say my experience is with the Eberspecker (forgive spelling) one for trucks boats etc, 5Kw same but cost 20 odd years ago was £1200.00 and while very good maintenance was high, and a barstuard to do, no idea how these cheapies will last but we were live aboards so got used every day, guess occasional camping prob OK and lets face it cheap enough,Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

11-12-2019, 00:11	#4
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Eberspacker ones around £800 today, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

11-12-2019, 00:42	#6
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	I am thinking of getting one for the Mobile we rent out, Calor is so expensive, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

11-12-2019, 00:33	#5
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Yeah those are the ones Rick, some really good reviews on YouTube and some are even cheaper at different outlets. There’s a new model just coming onto the market that heats what too but that’s excessive for my needs. To be honest if one lasts two or three years I wouldn’t be too upset.

12-12-2019, 23:25	#7
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13-12-2019, 13:02	#8
rayf3262 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norfolk, Poringland NR14 Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE 2002 Posts: 1,549	There is a Chinese diesel heater group on FB: "Chinese Diesel Vehicle air heaters" there are many useful user comments experiences here. I have had no direct experience with the Chinese products. There are principally two common types of Eberspacher vehicle heaters; the D2 and D5. The D2 is the unit is rated at 2KW and most copied by the Chinese. This unit is intended to be fitted inside the vehicle and delivers hot air diectly to the cabin. The D5 is a similar product rated at 5KW BUT is is designed to heat water and is typically fitted to provide direct heating of the engine coolant system. This type of heater is fitted to many modern vehicles with efficient diesel engines as at low load these engines struggle to provide useful heat to the cabin and take a long time warm up. The VW/Ford Sharaxy is often fitted with a D5 unit, it can be found mounted on the underside of the vehicle beneath the rear N/S passenger seat. I have purchased two of these from my local breaker for the princely sum of £20 each. Including stainless steel exhaust silencer, which if you are parking in proximity to other campers you will need as they do sound like a small jet engine when running at full chat. I have one fitted in the camper to provide hot water (calorifier) and additional heater matrix to heat the rear cabin. The other is fitted in my workshop for heating. This consists of the D5, a car heater matrix mounted with a 230V AC blower and a CH circulation pump. The workshop is around 90 M3 in volume, this arrangement can raise the workshop temperature from ~5deg C to ~18deg C in around 35~40 mins and easily maintain or exceed that. It uses less than 0.5L of fuel per hour, so even using DERV it costs around 65 pence/hour to run. Central heating oil or red diesel would of course cost less. These heaters are also happy to run on kerosene/paraffin and this will reduce the servicing requirements due to the cleaner burn, however the heat output will be a little lower due to the superior calorific value of diesel. Given internal the volume of a van the option of a small (5-10L) tank that you can fill with the fuel of choice allows some flexibility here. It is also somewhat easier than fitting an addition fuel take off from the vehicle tank. __________________ Remember what the dormouse said: Feed your head....

18-12-2019, 22:18	#9
terranosaurusdoug Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Yorkshire, J33 M62 Vehicle: 2000 Terrano lwb 2.7TDI Posts: 5,500	I will be getting one eventually Jim, I want to set mine on a timer so I don't have to scrape ice on the winter mornings

19-12-2019, 10:04	#11
panelbeater Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: clacton on sea essex Vehicle: nissan terrano 2 2.7 tdi Posts: 1,638	i fill my gas bottles up at petrol stations,not the expencive refillable ones,my addaptor has a one way valve built in,in fact jim tightened it all up after i stripped it down to reseal all the joints when i was at jims having my 3l sorted. on the road lpg prices vary but a lot of stations wont let you fill up unless fitted in unit. when van parked up i connect a 47kg to heat it when i stay in it,needed a calour refill but cost £72 delivered,my mate there had 2 as well but when he told me how much i nearly fainted,he is near thetford forrest,i am in clacton,i phoned around here as i have lpg at home for cooking and the same was £52 calour or £53 flowgas,he was not happy and phoned calour and got thats the price,so i say why the difference. i took my 1 of my 47s up there but its not worth the 140 mile and heaving about to get them there from here. he used to turn upside down a 47 to fill his smaller bottles but i sort them now as he had a leak when i was ther and stoped him doing that for safty.he is 84 still able bit like jim. when i was at jims for the extended stay i put my last bottle of gas on and jim offered me some but i had enough,want to talk to jim about his lpg set up sometime. i am thinking about a chinese heater to boost my large front room 28x19 as it takes so long to heat it so i leave oil heating on 24 seven .