towing capacity of a patrol

peddler · 11-02-2016, 20:59

Hi new to the forum, I am in the building trade and need a vehicle that can pull a 3 ton cherry picker on a trailer that weighs a ton so total 4 tons? I been offered a Nissan patrol GR SE TD 1997 with a tachometer already installed on mark 2 nato towing bracket (quick releasing pin). The owner says that it has a train weight of 6200kg with weight of vehicle of 1900kg so leaving 4300kg for the trailer and cargo. The trouble is I am trying to confirm this? as we all know DVSA (old vosa) like paperwork, if pulled over.

any help on this would be very much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Gary

Barrbeast · 11-02-2016, 21:40

Hey mate, the Trols are rated to 3.5 ton for manual transmission and 2.5 ton for automatics.

They'll both pull a LOT more but not legally unless the owners had it replated

In guessing it's a Y61 in which case the LWB is almost 3 ton gross weight so don't know where he's getting his figures from!

don simon · 11-02-2016, 22:49

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The owner says that it has a train weight of 6200kg with weight of vehicle

Isn't the gross train weight stamped on the VIN plate or in the V5?

solarman216 · 12-02-2016, 00:21

yes, Rick

solarman216 · 12-02-2016, 00:29

just read the full thread, there aint any T2 or Patrol that will pull 4 ton legally, in fact I doubt any "car" will you must be looking at a small truck like a transit van perhaps but even then pushing it, Rick

rustic · 12-02-2016, 05:13

I think a limiting factor is on over run brakes, 3.5 tonne, if the vehicle and trailer are suitable.

I believe over 3.5 tonne is possible, but you need linked braking, ie active braking on the trailer rather than over run.

Not sure what vehicles would be suitable, certainly LR's have been used this way in the past, not sure how replating the towing vehicle works either.

11-02-2016, 20:59	#1
peddler Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: norfolk Vehicle: nissan patrol Posts: 4	towing capacity of a patrol Hi new to the forum, I am in the building trade and need a vehicle that can pull a 3 ton cherry picker on a trailer that weighs a ton so total 4 tons? I been offered a Nissan patrol GR SE TD 1997 with a tachometer already installed on mark 2 nato towing bracket (quick releasing pin). The owner says that it has a train weight of 6200kg with weight of vehicle of 1900kg so leaving 4300kg for the trailer and cargo. The trouble is I am trying to confirm this? as we all know DVSA (old vosa) like paperwork, if pulled over. any help on this would be very much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Gary

12-02-2016, 00:21	#4
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	yes, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

12-02-2016, 00:29	#5
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	just read the full thread, there aint any T2 or Patrol that will pull 4 ton legally, in fact I doubt any "car" will you must be looking at a small truck like a transit van perhaps but even then pushing it, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

12-02-2016, 05:13	#6
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	I think a limiting factor is on over run brakes, 3.5 tonne, if the vehicle and trailer are suitable. I believe over 3.5 tonne is possible, but you need linked braking, ie active braking on the trailer rather than over run. Not sure what vehicles would be suitable, certainly LR's have been used this way in the past, not sure how replating the towing vehicle works either. __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

11-02-2016, 21:40	#2
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Hey mate, the Trols are rated to 3.5 ton for manual transmission and 2.5 ton for automatics. They'll both pull a LOT more but not legally unless the owners had it replated In guessing it's a Y61 in which case the LWB is almost 3 ton gross weight so don't know where he's getting his figures from!