Legality of carrying objects in vehicle

AlexD333 · 30-04-2014, 23:40

So me and the missus were discussing earlier about a rather large pickaxe I have aquired. I'm gonna keep it in the terrano for emergencies. We were wondering the the police would class this as an offensive weapon.

I don't plan to use it often on other cars

Peasgood1 · 30-04-2014, 23:57

How often do you expect to be in a situation where the police would find the need to search your car?

I rarely go out without guns, knives, axes etc etc. never a problem as i am not likely to be searched.

rustic · 01-05-2014, 08:13

You will probably find that a pick axe handle or a base ball bat on their own, with out any other supporting items, will be considererd more as an offensive weapon. Too readily available.
A crook lock on it's own is more convincing.

Pick axe, some work gloves, a spade in the boot, with a bit of mud... sorted.
Mind you with that stuff, it looks as though you are going equipped to break in somewhere. Just ditch the bag with the word "swag" on it...

So if you do carry a base ball bat for sport, then keep it in a bag with the rest of the gear.

A man was arrested carrying a petrol powered chain saw through a town.
Now if he was returning it to a shop... he should make sure it is covererd up, but this very young guy alleged he was a tree surgeon and was taking it to be sharpened. He did get very aggressive when challenged though.

supergnome · 01-05-2014, 08:38

Reason to carry...Pickaxe handle no reason. Large wheel brace or wrench wrapped in a cloth, probably justified.

Fez_uk · 01-05-2014, 08:59

Never needed a pickaxe offroading, just take a spade.

AlexD333 · 01-05-2014, 09:44

Hmm ok good amount of different views, thanks all.

Sorry if I confused people it's a pickaxe and separate handle, both of which are wrapped up in different bags.

Hopefully it's just how you speak to the police if you get stopped. All of my encounters have been pleasant because I treat them so well

It's raining at the moment but I will take some pictures too.

Lazy-Ferret · 01-05-2014, 11:21

I think the main thing is "availability", e.g., in a zipped up bag in the boot is not the same as tucked down the side of the drivers seat. You need to go through several steps to get to it. Most of it is about attitude, and how it is packer. You can carry a 12inch carving knife in the high street, as long as it is wrapped up, and you have good cause to be carrying it at the time, e.g., just bought it or returning it.

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Originally Posted by Fez_uk

Never needed a pickaxe offroading, just take a spade.

Like Fez, I can't really see why you would need a Pickaxe for off roading in this country, so it would make it hard to justify to a Police officer why you are carrying it. Even on the most out of the way "Byways" you should not need to be breaking up any form of hard surface, it normally the lack of hard surface that is the problem you are stuck in the first place, and going round breaking off rocks and boulders from the surrounding countryside will be very frowned upon.

angusyoung1 · 01-05-2014, 23:04

Says aloes about the UK when you can't even carry a lock knife. Bet all the criminals and gang members leave their's at home now

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Sweety · 01-05-2014, 23:13

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Originally Posted by angusyoung1

Bet all the criminals and gang members leave their's at home now

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Yes they have moved onto shot guns

trophymick · 02-05-2014, 09:31

I always carry my Victorinox Swiss army knife in a leather belt pouch, a very useful tool.

Here's a example of UK legal pocket knives.

http://www.heinnie.com/knives-and-to...ndly_carry/yes

johnb5177 · 02-05-2014, 13:09

I had a very real, surreal moment a while back, concerning knives......I had to work in Scotland for a while, and had to leave my opinel no.8 at home(air travel).
Had to purchase a new large chainsaw for the estate I was working on......no worries....had a good yarn with the dealer.....then I thought....I need a pocket knife while I'm here, so get another Opinal off the stand next to the pay point........I then was interrogated.......my age, what did I want the knife for, where I lived, what I did......then had to sign for it......totally absurd, unpoliceable regulations.......of course rogues and vagabonds will quickly subscribe to this.......won't they?

Peasgood1 · 02-05-2014, 13:25

There is talk in the news today about mandatory jail sentences for people found carrying knives.
It is just ridiculous! I hate the way knives have been so criminalised.
I always have a knife in my pocket and for quite some time it has been a lock knife. I use to to cut and pry various things throughout the day, it isn't there to threaten or stab people with. In fact it is a bit stiff to open, on the unlikely event of me being threatened I would have won or lost the battle long before I could open the blade. More likely than not I would chop my own fingers off fiddling with the damned thing. lol

Having said all that, I am well aware of the harm knives can do and all the wrongs in the seemingly popular trend for youths to "carry". Especially in view of recent events with that poor teacher.
It is people that cause this harm, not knives. That is where the education is needed rather than blanket bans on things. Look how the ban on handguns solved gun crime, Not!

30-04-2014, 23:40	#1
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Legality of carrying objects in vehicle So me and the missus were discussing earlier about a rather large pickaxe I have aquired. I'm gonna keep it in the terrano for emergencies. We were wondering the the police would class this as an offensive weapon. I don't plan to use it often on other cars

01-05-2014, 08:13	#3
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	You will probably find that a pick axe handle or a base ball bat on their own, with out any other supporting items, will be considererd more as an offensive weapon. Too readily available. A crook lock on it's own is more convincing. Pick axe, some work gloves, a spade in the boot, with a bit of mud... sorted. Mind you with that stuff, it looks as though you are going equipped to break in somewhere. Just ditch the bag with the word "swag" on it... So if you do carry a base ball bat for sport, then keep it in a bag with the rest of the gear. A man was arrested carrying a petrol powered chain saw through a town. Now if he was returning it to a shop... he should make sure it is covererd up, but this very young guy alleged he was a tree surgeon and was taking it to be sharpened. He did get very aggressive when challenged though. __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

30-04-2014, 23:57	#2
Peasgood1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cheshire Vehicle: '94 swb Terrano Posts: 198	How often do you expect to be in a situation where the police would find the need to search your car? I rarely go out without guns, knives, axes etc etc. never a problem as i am not likely to be searched.

01-05-2014, 08:38	#4
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	Reason to carry...Pickaxe handle no reason. Large wheel brace or wrench wrapped in a cloth, probably justified.

01-05-2014, 08:59	#5
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	Never needed a pickaxe offroading, just take a spade.

01-05-2014, 09:44	#6
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Hmm ok good amount of different views, thanks all. Sorry if I confused people it's a pickaxe and separate handle, both of which are wrapped up in different bags. Hopefully it's just how you speak to the police if you get stopped. All of my encounters have been pleasant because I treat them so well It's raining at the moment but I will take some pictures too.

01-05-2014, 23:04	#8
angusyoung1 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Northern Ireland Vehicle: terrano 2 2.7 tdi Posts: 14	Says aloes about the UK when you can't even carry a lock knife. Bet all the criminals and gang members leave their's at home now Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

02-05-2014, 09:31	#10
trophymick Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Langholm,Scotland Vehicle: 2001 Terrano 2. S LWB 2.7 Posts: 463	I always carry my Victorinox Swiss army knife in a leather belt pouch, a very useful tool. Here's a example of UK legal pocket knives. http://www.heinnie.com/knives-and-to...ndly_carry/yes

02-05-2014, 13:09	#11
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	I had a very real, surreal moment a while back, concerning knives......I had to work in Scotland for a while, and had to leave my opinel no.8 at home(air travel). Had to purchase a new large chainsaw for the estate I was working on......no worries....had a good yarn with the dealer.....then I thought....I need a pocket knife while I'm here, so get another Opinal off the stand next to the pay point........I then was interrogated.......my age, what did I want the knife for, where I lived, what I did......then had to sign for it......totally absurd, unpoliceable regulations.......of course rogues and vagabonds will quickly subscribe to this.......won't they?

02-05-2014, 13:25	#12
Peasgood1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cheshire Vehicle: '94 swb Terrano Posts: 198	There is talk in the news today about mandatory jail sentences for people found carrying knives. It is just ridiculous! I hate the way knives have been so criminalised. I always have a knife in my pocket and for quite some time it has been a lock knife. I use to to cut and pry various things throughout the day, it isn't there to threaten or stab people with. In fact it is a bit stiff to open, on the unlikely event of me being threatened I would have won or lost the battle long before I could open the blade. More likely than not I would chop my own fingers off fiddling with the damned thing. lol Having said all that, I am well aware of the harm knives can do and all the wrongs in the seemingly popular trend for youths to "carry". Especially in view of recent events with that poor teacher. It is people that cause this harm, not knives. That is where the education is needed rather than blanket bans on things. Look how the ban on handguns solved gun crime, Not!