Rear Brakes please help

[John B]

Hi again, I've noticed that the rear drum on the drivers side is getting hot, so today I've striped it all down on both sides and all seems on, The handbrake is returning so no sticking handbrake cable adjusted the shoes up bit at a time and put wheel back on and span it a few times all seems fine so then moved on to adjust the handbrake making sure it's not binding. Took the car for a drive and the off side drum is getting hot very hot so I let it cool down and slackened off the handbrake cable to the point there is no tension on it at all but the drum is still getting hot ??? What am I doing wrong . I can't say I've been pulling my hair out because I ain't got any

[AD Ent]

Wheel bearing?

[John B]

Originally Posted by AD Ent

Wheel bearing?

Would that make the drum get that hot ???

[AD Ent]

hmm you did say it spun quite well so maybe not

[Kishada]

Originally Posted by John B

Hi again, I've noticed that the rear drum on the drivers side is getting hot, so today I've striped it all down on both sides and all seems on, The handbrake is returning so no sticking handbrake cable adjusted the shoes up bit at a time and put wheel back on and span it a few times all seems fine so then moved on to adjust the handbrake making sure it's not binding. Took the car for a drive and the off side drum is getting hot very hot so I let it cool down and slackened off the handbrake cable to the point there is no tension on it at all but the drum is still getting hot ??? What am I doing wrong . I can't say I've been pulling my hair out because I ain't got any

You didn't state whether both of the pistons return in to the cylinder when gently pushed (use a screw driver if necessary but watch the seals and minimal force should be required).

Have you had someone work the handbrake in the car while you watch the position of both handbrake lever arms on the shoes with the handbrake both on and off to check it is not stuck on?

[John B]

Hi, it had new cylinders only 6 months ago so I didn't really pay them much attention but saying that one pistons of the cylinder came out but not all the way as to loose fluid as I took the shoes off and had to use a bit of force to push it back in ?? The handbrake arm is returning as it should as I checked it like you just said. Is it possible that the rubber brake hose in the middle of the rear axel is braking down causing the brake cylinder to stick ??

[Lazy-Ferret]

just a silly idea, but the hand brake cable isn't caught on something, so when the wheels are returned to their normal position, rather than just hanging down, it pulls tight?

[macabethiel]

Just basics really already mentioned about pistons being free.
Are the springs in the right position to pull the linings back ?
Is the rear axle moving backwards as you drive forwards ?
Had a problem many years ago on a Vauxhall when a rear spring broke and the axle moved back pulling the handbrake on on on e side. To drive home from wales I had to completely disconnect the cable. Mind you this was on a vehicle with cart axle rear suspension.

[John B]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

Just basics really already mentioned about pistons being free.
Are the springs in the right position to pull the linings back ?
Is the rear axle moving backwards as you drive forwards ?
Had a problem many years ago on a Vauxhall when a rear spring broke and the axle moved back pulling the handbrake on on on e side. To drive home from wales I had to completely disconnect the cable. Mind you this was on a vehicle with cart axle rear suspension.

Hi, what do you mean when you say about the axel moving backwards, is that possible do you mean it would pull the handbrake cable ?

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by John B

Hi again, I've noticed that the rear drum on the drivers side is getting hot, so today I've striped it all down on both sides and all seems on, The handbrake is returning so no sticking handbrake cable adjusted the shoes up bit at a time and put wheel back on and span it a few times all seems fine so then moved on to adjust the handbrake making sure it's not binding. Took the car for a drive and the off side drum is getting hot very hot so I let it cool down and slackened off the handbrake cable to the point there is no tension on it at all but the drum is still getting hot ??? What am I doing wrong . I can't say I've been pulling my hair out because I ain't got any

Have you fixed the rear brakes & what was it in the end ???

[John B]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

Have you fixed the rear brakes & what was it in the end ???

Hi, to be honest I gave up in the end so was driving it around but with no handbrake as this is how I left it after swapping the drums and I was too lazy to adjust it, but then after a few days it stopped getting hot but I'm yet to adjust the handbrake up but I've got a felling it's going to be ok because I know the handbrake cable is working fine as the drum was getting hot even with the cable slackened right off.