fuel strike ..... your views ?

briggie · 25-03-2012, 09:22

saw this on the news ,...... is it right or wrong that the army is being trained to deliver fuel to stations ? .........discuss

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17502973

jims-terrano · 25-03-2012, 09:26

What's the point?

The goverment are out to screw the ordinary people of this country and make it like in the victorian age. Keep the working bloke down where he belongs.

Jim

briggie · 25-03-2012, 09:30

should the army be delivering fuel to stations tho ?

rustic · 25-03-2012, 09:53

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Originally Posted by briggie

should the army be delivering fuel to stations tho ?

What I think it is is propaganda, if someone threatens to strike, if the government can counter it before it starts, it will probably not go ahead, as the impact will be minimal.
Mind you driving a tanker of fuel is probably less of a risk than being shot at.

The blockades of fuel refineries had a greater effect 20 years ago.

You will probably find the army, helping out in the hospitals soon

But they were never sent down the mines in the 70's, or were they?

clivvy · 25-03-2012, 10:00

its complex. I want fuel. But I dont want to pay those prices. So I agree with strikes, but I also agree with keeping the country running. This country can ill afford the fuel costs, but it can ill afford the massive losses from not being able to function.
catch 22.

deciding factor is from experience, it wont make a difference in this country, no strike will make a difference, so whats the point?

very sad.

as for using the Army, look, I think its way better the Army is drafted in to surplus our emergency services etc than sending them to pointless wars, so im all for it, we should see it more often.

spiderpig37 · 25-03-2012, 11:01

as said think its propaganda by the government to be seen to be doing something bigger problem is when are they going to realise that the ordanary guy is going to get to a point that they can not afford to put fuel in the tank to get to work

minimum price for booze comeing in so its going to cost you more to drown your sorrows

firebobby · 25-03-2012, 11:52

And PIES!! there hitting pies as well

I think a lot depends on truck drivers/firms, these are being hit very hard and as in 2000, they had go slows on motorways and main roads...no good having a tanker full of fuel, if it can't get to the garage

Bat21 · 25-03-2012, 16:59

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Originally Posted by clivvy

its complex. I want fuel. But I dont want to pay those prices. So I agree with strikes.....

I thought the tanker drivers were considering striking over pay, not fuel costs

Paul · 25-03-2012, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Bat21

I thought the tanker drivers were considering striking over pay, not fuel costs

Thats what we have been told @ work, over their pay deal..

clivvy · 25-03-2012, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Bat21

I thought the tanker drivers were considering striking over pay, not fuel costs

yes, but you cant argue that the cost of fuel is ALSO on the agenda...cost of fuel affects the amount of money they get paid because the fleets are more expensive to run. I'm not daft, me

briggie · 25-03-2012, 19:27

briggie · 28-03-2012, 21:52

ok , lets make this debate interesting .........

at what point cost wise would you NOT buy fuel and say enough is enough and either give up driving or look at alternatives ?

fridgman · 28-03-2012, 22:36

I can't stop driving completely but I have already cut it down to a bare minimum as it is already more than I bear to pay! Now considering building a bio plant in the garage as an alternative!

makeitfit · 28-03-2012, 22:44

Likewise, bio is the way forward for a while. Trouble is getting enough waste oil regularly.
Catering businesses are more and more obliged to return their waste oil to their suppliers or loose out on trade discounts. Another way of the Govt stopping cheap alternative fuels and thus reduced revenue.
Call me Max, fooking Mad Max

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jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	What's the point? The goverment are out to screw the ordinary people of this country and make it like in the victorian age. Keep the working bloke down where he belongs. Jim

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briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	should the army be delivering fuel to stations tho ?

25-03-2012, 10:00	#5
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	its complex. I want fuel. But I dont want to pay those prices. So I agree with strikes, but I also agree with keeping the country running. This country can ill afford the fuel costs, but it can ill afford the massive losses from not being able to function. catch 22. deciding factor is from experience, it wont make a difference in this country, no strike will make a difference, so whats the point? very sad. as for using the Army, look, I think its way better the Army is drafted in to surplus our emergency services etc than sending them to pointless wars, so im all for it, we should see it more often.

25-03-2012, 11:01	#6
spiderpig37 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: doncaster south yorkshire Vehicle: nissan terrano t2+ Posts: 729	as said think its propaganda by the government to be seen to be doing something bigger problem is when are they going to realise that the ordanary guy is going to get to a point that they can not afford to put fuel in the tank to get to work minimum price for booze comeing in so its going to cost you more to drown your sorrows

25-03-2012, 11:52	#7
firebobby Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Bucks Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE 2005 Posts: 3,499	And PIES!! there hitting pies as well I think a lot depends on truck drivers/firms, these are being hit very hard and as in 2000, they had go slows on motorways and main roads...no good having a tanker full of fuel, if it can't get to the garage

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28-03-2012, 21:52	#12
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	ok , lets make this debate interesting ......... at what point cost wise would you NOT buy fuel and say enough is enough and either give up driving or look at alternatives ?

28-03-2012, 22:44	#14
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Likewise, bio is the way forward for a while. Trouble is getting enough waste oil regularly. Catering businesses are more and more obliged to return their waste oil to their suppliers or loose out on trade discounts. Another way of the Govt stopping cheap alternative fuels and thus reduced revenue. Call me Max, fooking Mad Max