Dale Farm...

Adz · 25-09-2011, 16:17

Decided to go & check out a few lane's in & around Basildon to & 1 of the lane's has been stolen by the TRAVELLERS

Here are a few picys...

The illegal entrance now taken over by the Police / Bailiffs / Council & Security...

The legal entrance with protesters & tv...

The funny thing is when I stopped to take a picy of the Police side, a power trip security guard told me to move on

I said why as it is a public road & live a few minutes away & just wanted to see what was happening... He got all high & mighty so I unleashed the Essex Boy Mouth on him

It's been on tv enough so what harm was I doing & I was doing nothing wrong

What is the country coming too...

What annoys me is that although the land may be green belt, they own it...

But nothing has been said about the byway, 2 bridleways & several footpaths that have been built on by the TRAVELLERS

clivvy · 25-09-2011, 16:50

You can do what the hell you want mate with your camera, he can shove his over inflated ego up his arse.

chrisdib · 25-09-2011, 21:32

good point, usually if you build so much as a bird nest over a bridleway or common footpath you have hikers and "walking enthusiasts" all over you tearing down fences and claiming the right to walk through your living room etc...

they seem oddly absent when facing a group of people that seem strangley above the law (i.e one threw a hot cup of tea on the t.v into a bailiffs face while the police stood by and did nothing)

Deleted account DD · 26-09-2011, 19:09

If you specifically photograph or appear to be photographing him (the security guard) he can object.

If your taking a photo of a public place AND youre not inciting or harassing, anyone/anything in that area and in view is fair play.

All of that has been well established over the past few years.

Adz · 26-09-2011, 19:17

Your not the 1st in the services to say that & as you can see he wasn't in the shot

I am now taking that route to work just to p**s him off

I do find it a waste time & money though as they won't go & there not making any attempt to move them

All I can see happening now is more pikys & people who have had planing turned down on green belt now building as this highly publicised topic clearly shows that the powers to be won't do anything

leafy1 · 26-09-2011, 21:03

We had a field near to us which was acquired by travellers and over 1 Bank Holiday they had erected a closeboard fence round it (It's a good 4 acres as well)put roadways in and had moved in.
I was shocked to say the least.......but I will give it to them for getting the lot done in a short space of time.Anyway I thought well that's it now they will be here for good ,but in the space of 2 weeks they were moved on completely,the entrance had great boulders placed at it and they haven't been back in 2 years.

I'd say there was a good 50 caravans there as well...............the authorities can move them on if they want too very quickly which is what they should have done at Dale Farm when all this first started.

So I will give Oxfordshire Council a

for being on the ball with travellers.

Adz · 19-10-2011, 14:27

At long last the Police are removing the hippy protesters that have nothing to do with the site & are bulldozing the far end of the site

I am also glad to see that the byway that had been blocked is now drivable along with 1 of the 3 footpaths

but not the bridleways

gazrick · 19-10-2011, 16:45

Great!

At least there will be enough firewood around for a nice big bonfire next month

Zero Carbon - sounds good.

Adz · 19-10-2011, 17:34

Most of it's been burnt already

Been sirens on & off all day & the police helicopters been above all day on & off...

4wheel · 19-10-2011, 18:25

On Sunday I took a cruise through Stow on the Wold in the Cotswolds(as you do) and lo and behold the place was surrounded by travellers.In fact they were quite comfy on the edge of the Sainsbury's car park as well.They seem to have made themselves at home in a couple of fields and along some of the roads. I think that may upset a few posh folk.

Adz · 19-10-2011, 18:28

I think there SCUM.!

(RIP) PLANK · 30-10-2011, 20:05

I have to move on from the racist word here to the real 'planning' issue.

More than 50% of homes in the UK do not have planning permission! they were built before it was necessary. Any home built before 1948 did not need it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_an...nning_Act_1947 (it's not very accurate but it gives you an idea)

The planning laws were created before the race discrimination act, and the governments failure to ever properly implement the 1968 caravan sites and control of development act has lead to the current problem.

Plus the few sites built under this act are now mostly occupied by privately owned static caravan that are bought and sold on site, the tenancy passing to the new owner - you can't sell the tenancy of a council house can you? Most of the site house no travellers at all!

The influx of Eastern European workers into agricultural jobs traditionally done by travelling people has also had a huge impact on these communities.

What we need now is proper action to create space to accommodate the UK's own ethic minorities!

Think about it even the words the council's use 'Gypsy Site' or 'Travellers Site' are directly racist. We don't have 'Pakistani Housing' or 'Jew Flats' - no caravan a site is a caravan site and no more.

THE TRUTH IS THERE ARE NO WINNERS IN THE DALE FARM SITUATION IT IS THE SAD OUTCOME OF AN AREA OF SOCIAL POLICY THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR TO LONG

25-09-2011, 16:17	#1
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	Dale Farm... Decided to go & check out a few lane's in & around Basildon to & 1 of the lane's has been stolen by the TRAVELLERS Here are a few picys... The illegal entrance now taken over by the Police / Bailiffs / Council & Security... The legal entrance with protesters & tv... The funny thing is when I stopped to take a picy of the Police side, a power trip security guard told me to move on I said why as it is a public road & live a few minutes away & just wanted to see what was happening... He got all high & mighty so I unleashed the Essex Boy Mouth on him It's been on tv enough so what harm was I doing & I was doing nothing wrong What is the country coming too... What annoys me is that although the land may be green belt, they own it... But nothing has been said about the byway, 2 bridleways & several footpaths that have been built on by the TRAVELLERS Last edited by Thomas-the-Terrano2; 26-09-2011 at 15:34.

25-09-2011, 16:50	#2
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	You can do what the hell you want mate with your camera, he can shove his over inflated ego up his arse. Last edited by Thomas-the-Terrano2; 26-09-2011 at 15:37. Reason: removing duplicated racially offensive comments

19-10-2011, 14:27	#7
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	Justive at long last At long last the Police are removing the hippy protesters that have nothing to do with the site & are bulldozing the far end of the site I am also glad to see that the byway that had been blocked is now drivable along with 1 of the 3 footpaths but not the bridleways

25-09-2011, 21:32	#3
chrisdib Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: west midlands Vehicle: 2002 maverick Posts: 11	good point, usually if you build so much as a bird nest over a bridleway or common footpath you have hikers and "walking enthusiasts" all over you tearing down fences and claiming the right to walk through your living room etc... they seem oddly absent when facing a group of people that seem strangley above the law (i.e one threw a hot cup of tea on the t.v into a bailiffs face while the police stood by and did nothing)

26-09-2011, 19:09	#4
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	If you specifically photograph or appear to be photographing him (the security guard) he can object. If your taking a photo of a public place AND youre not inciting or harassing, anyone/anything in that area and in view is fair play. All of that has been well established over the past few years.

26-09-2011, 19:17	#5
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	Your not the 1st in the services to say that & as you can see he wasn't in the shot I am now taking that route to work just to p**s him off I do find it a waste time & money though as they won't go & there not making any attempt to move them All I can see happening now is more pikys & people who have had planing turned down on green belt now building as this highly publicised topic clearly shows that the powers to be won't do anything

26-09-2011, 21:03	#6
leafy1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: England,Swindon,Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2 Posts: 252	We had a field near to us which was acquired by travellers and over 1 Bank Holiday they had erected a closeboard fence round it (It's a good 4 acres as well)put roadways in and had moved in. I was shocked to say the least.......but I will give it to them for getting the lot done in a short space of time.Anyway I thought well that's it now they will be here for good ,but in the space of 2 weeks they were moved on completely,the entrance had great boulders placed at it and they haven't been back in 2 years. I'd say there was a good 50 caravans there as well...............the authorities can move them on if they want too very quickly which is what they should have done at Dale Farm when all this first started. So I will give Oxfordshire Council a for being on the ball with travellers.

19-10-2011, 16:45	#8
gazrick Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wales Vehicle: Maverick / Esprit Turbo Posts: 74	Great! At least there will be enough firewood around for a nice big bonfire next month Zero Carbon - sounds good.

19-10-2011, 17:34	#9
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	Most of it's been burnt already Been sirens on & off all day & the police helicopters been above all day on & off...

19-10-2011, 18:25	#10
4wheel Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wiltshire Vehicle: Terrano 11 2.7Tdi SWB Posts: 240	On Sunday I took a cruise through Stow on the Wold in the Cotswolds(as you do) and lo and behold the place was surrounded by travellers.In fact they were quite comfy on the edge of the Sainsbury's car park as well.They seem to have made themselves at home in a couple of fields and along some of the roads. I think that may upset a few posh folk.

19-10-2011, 18:28	#11
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	I think there SCUM.!

30-10-2011, 20:05	#12
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	I have to move on from the racist word here to the real 'planning' issue. More than 50% of homes in the UK do not have planning permission! they were built before it was necessary. Any home built before 1948 did not need it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_an...nning_Act_1947 (it's not very accurate but it gives you an idea) The planning laws were created before the race discrimination act, and the governments failure to ever properly implement the 1968 caravan sites and control of development act has lead to the current problem. Plus the few sites built under this act are now mostly occupied by privately owned static caravan that are bought and sold on site, the tenancy passing to the new owner - you can't sell the tenancy of a council house can you? Most of the site house no travellers at all! The influx of Eastern European workers into agricultural jobs traditionally done by travelling people has also had a huge impact on these communities. What we need now is proper action to create space to accommodate the UK's own ethic minorities! Think about it even the words the council's use 'Gypsy Site' or 'Travellers Site' are directly racist. We don't have 'Pakistani Housing' or 'Jew Flats' - no caravan a site is a caravan site and no more. THE TRUTH IS THERE ARE NO WINNERS IN THE DALE FARM SITUATION IT IS THE SAD OUTCOME OF AN AREA OF SOCIAL POLICY THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR TO LONG