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Old 04-07-2009, 15:59   #1
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ok having just bent my 6th steering idler

ive had a thought. what if you replace the steering idler with a second power steering pump (left hand drive of course)

could you connect them both to work together
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would the main one drag the other one around
or
?????? ideas ??????


if it can be done ...you couldnt bend that if you wanted to, and it would make them pretty indestructable



any ideas anyone ????????
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Old 04-07-2009, 16:11   #2
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just get a tank
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Old 05-07-2009, 22:31   #3
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anyone got any sensible ideas ?
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Old 05-07-2009, 22:37   #4
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anyone got any sensible ideas ?

Take 1 off the spare 4x4 if ya need 1

Have you tried my "angle iron" idea.?
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Is you steering idler still mounted in the original position or have you lowered it? What bit bends?
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Old 05-07-2009, 23:12   #6
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ok the idler is made up of 2 sections the bit that bolts to the chassis with 3 bolts .....and the bit that attaches to the relay bar

its the rod bit of the part that fits to the chassis that keeps bending

ive spoken to a few people who recon the theory of a second pump instead of an idler is very possible.... either piped up to work as 2 or keep the original as the pump and have the second on a closed circit and use it as a damper


any thoughts anyone.... bet toolbox knows the answer
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Old 05-07-2009, 23:22   #7
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keep the original as the pump and have the second on a closed circit and use it as a damper


Would be a good idea i reckon
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Still not sure at what point it is bending but would making on of these http://www.purenissan.com/idler_arm_brace.htm not help.

Fitting another steering box seems a little extreme if not overcomplicated.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:15   #9
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yes knew you could make something like that, terra showed me a download somewhere.

trouble is if i make one its going to cost a fair whack to get it made then id want it machine welded , not by the geezer down the road

yes i can see it working but i used to bend them with 31" tyres on, now im on 35" tyres it is bending with real ease.
seems to be when the steerring gets pulled out of my hand and it shoots round to full lock, it just bends in one hit.

had hoped the extra steering box will dampen it and prevent it jumping out of my hand and shooting to full lock with such force. as well as being 3-4 times thicker....


this theory is based on the fact ive never bent a steering box... it just made me think of another route
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yes knew you could make something like that, terra showed me a download somewhere.

trouble is if i make one its going to cost a fair whack to get it made then id want it machine welded , not by the geezer down the road

yes i can see it working but i used to bend them with 31" tyres on, now im on 35" tyres it is bending with real ease.
seems to be when the steerring gets pulled out of my hand and it shoots round to full lock, it just bends in one hit.

had hoped the extra steering box will dampen it and prevent it jumping out of my hand and shooting to full lock with such force. as well as being 3-4 times thicker....


this theory is based on the fact ive never bent a steering box... it just made me think of another route
colin, seriously....its just a bit of cut plate, with two bends, three holes and half an inch of weld. It would cost twopence to get made up by a local engineering firm, might even be cheaper to get a few made up and sell them on.

Why not take them that photo and some measurements - nothing to lose in asking.....

Oh and don't forget to deduct the cost of six idler arms as well will you!
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