live axle chat again...

[AlexD333]

After having nightmares on how to finance 15000 pounds to get all that ridiculous work done to the terrano, I was looking over their list of mods on the site, a 38" conversion for a navara has the following parts..

AT38 Contents
AT405 38x15,5R15" tires
15x12,5" alloy wheels
Dana 44 front axle, w/ARB locker
Air compressor
Torque wrench
Fender flares, painted
Running boards and brackets
Mud flaps
Speedometer calibrator
40 mm suspension lift front/rear
80 mm body lift
Differential gears (4,56:1)
Fire extinguisher
First aid kit
Wheel alignment


This conversion is mainly for utility vehicles. When converting to 38” tires, you are far exceeding the normal off road capabilities, with flotation on snow as the core benefit. This conversion requires, both lifting of the suspension and the body. Extra wide fender flares are used, 15 x12,5” wheels, 4:88/1 gear ratio, and many other modifications to the various parts of the undercarriage and the body. With the AT38 your SUV will become a super offroader, with remarkably good driveability on normal roads.
The AT38 is ideal in remote areas, like police and rescue work, construction companies, tourist driving, scientific work and many other difficult tasks.
For more detailed information please contact us at info@arctictrucks.is


Now forgetting this whole list for 15,000 pounds

Surely for the likes of me, I could get a live axle set and find a specialist to carry out the operation, the gearing seems to be the important thing as makeitfit seemed to be running standard gearing on 35" which reported power loss.

So either find a vehicle that has a complete live axle setup with lower gearing than the terrano, then worry about body cutting and welding later, leading to bigger wheels. In the meantime I could make cheap arches from a number of materials such as old tyres cut up ect. And suspension could be lifted right up

[AlexD333]

No negatives please people, if the crazy Italians can do it, surely us Brits can manage it

Seems there is a modern for the Hilux diffs to give the needed gearing above

http://locktup4x4.com.au/nito-gear-4...front-497.html

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by AlexD333

Surely for the likes of me, I could get a live axle set and find a specialist to carry out the operation

Did anyone else hear that?................

I think Rick just had a heart attack

[rustic]

Why do all this?





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[Fez_uk]

Speak to people who swap axles around on challenge trucks, They could do it easily. Theres tons of people here in the UK who swap axles around all the time.

If i was going to do it I'd try and use a patrol 3.0 gearbox/transfer box or just the transfer box somehow (no idea how interchangeable they are) with patrol axles.

But if you change the axles and susp linkages etc you will need a SVA test which are pretty hard to pass (they check over the whole vehicle not just what has changed, It will even fail on stuff like wiring harness spacing on the securing tabs etc) and from what I can remember expensive.

Your bumpers won't pass, They are very strict. No sharp edges blah blah etc etc

No negatives please people

Why not?

I wouldn't on a road legal motor as it would cost too much to justify, Just buy a patrol

[russell.huffer]

Buy a Patrol as suggested above live axles 35" tyres with nothing more than a 2" suspension lift and one of the best off roaders out there.

Get the 4.2 and you can even run it on what ever yo u choose.

Just please do not put bad bumpers on a Patrol.

Kind regards

Russell.

[makeitfit]

Alex, I'm not being negative mate but perhaps a little more real than you'd like . In the early days of my T2 modding, I thought I wanted an SAS
Please be careful with your fb lead. There's a lot of work overall and if that price is g/teed I'd want a contract,it's way too good to be true.
Now I know the easy answer is buy a Trol but if you seriously want your T2 to perform well the SAS isn't the answer. You'll need a lot of bucks thrown at the front to get any more flex than I have on mine. Checkout some of the youtube clips of SAS T2s . the front ends are all pretty short of flex. You'll still be open diff unless you modify a patrol axle and swap lockers etc.
IF you simply buy a LOKKA as Rick has in his, you'll benefit from the light weight of the T2 and actually have more clearance under the front than an SAS the back will obviously remain the same.
Think hard mate. IF however you go for it then good on ya but tell us and we'll go through it with you so you know the whole story

[AlexD333]

Cheers dude, it's something I am Really considering, my cvs are so stressed at the front it would be nice to set everything back to normal, then jack body and suspension up instead, doing some cheap diy arches too and also open up tyre options.

The next hurdle for the likes of 35"+ is the power as you mentioned! tether than spend a fortune on tuning, the axles if installed right will have the correct gearing to compensate, top end does not bother me

So yeah, one leads to another i guess, I want big wheels, big wheels need different ratios, different ratios need different axle internals, and for the sake of it (and the height of big wheels) might aswell go live

Also arches can be cut regardless

[briggie]

wont you get a electric shock with a live axle ?

[briggie]

I wonder if rick is reading this and raising his eyes ?