" introductions "

briggie · 05-12-2013, 17:32

how long should we give visitors the opportunity to " introduce themselves " ? ..... as I feel some people are abusing this option to post technical questions on a regular basis , at the detriment of paying members ..... its not fair in my opinion .

Terranical · 05-12-2013, 17:40

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Originally Posted by briggie

how long should we give visitors the opportunity to " introduce themselves " ? ..... as I feel some people are abusing this option to post technical questions on a regular basis , at the detriment of paying members ..... its not fair in my opinion .

Interesting observation, perhaps a max of three posts before being chopped (might be difficult to monitor though!)

Lazy-Ferret · 05-12-2013, 17:47

It's very hard, the reason I joined was everyone was so friendly, and up for a laugh, but I only knew that by looking around and reading posts and responces

Maybe, they should be allowed to read the posts in just one section, maybe Terrano Mods, and only allowed to post in introductions. Then if they had a question, they could ask, and the members would not post answers, just something like.

Hi, and Welcome, yes, we have seen that a few times, and there are several posts on here on how to fault find that for the members.

Then they would have to join to get the answer, and if they have paid, then hopefully they would then join in.

Something I also like, is how people are not (normally) sticklers for staying on topic... often it is the anecdotes that go along with a question that makes it more fun.

briggie · 05-12-2013, 18:01

don't get me wrong , im all for helping people and keeping the wonderfull nature of the forum , but I feel some people are abusing the friendly and helpful nature of members , why pay for something when you can get it for free sort of attitude .

dave123 · 05-12-2013, 19:21

I joined back in june because I had just brought my first t2 and was having a few issue with it and I feel for just £10 you have got so much help and you get to meet good natured people who are nothing but kind and all willing to help . I will stay a member . people need to join and stop trying to get stuff for nothing

clivvy · 05-12-2013, 20:15

I think to be fair, the site has to prove its worth, and you only find that out by asking questions. I have seen countless members based on that method and I think its fine. A limit, yeah three sounds alright to me because lets face it the membership fee is covered usually with just one question answered and the result being positive!

exosteve · 05-12-2013, 21:26

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Originally Posted by dave123

I joined back in june because I had just brought my first t2 and was having a few issue with it and I feel for just £10 you have got so much help and you get to meet good natured people who are nothing but kind and all willing to help . I will stay a member . people need to join and stop trying to get stuff for nothing

im always trying get summat for nuffin

Bat21 · 06-12-2013, 10:56

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Originally Posted by briggie

how long should we give visitors the opportunity to " introduce themselves " ? ..... as I feel some people are abusing this option to post technical questions on a regular basis....

There will always be people who feel everything on the internet should be free.

In an ideal world those that have been helped by folks here should be showing their support by joining up.... but unfortunately we no longer live in an ideal world.

It would be difficult to monitor how many tech questions each newbie had asked, so the best form of censorship would be for those who so often answer to say "oi, time to join up and we will tell you the answer"

makeitfit · 06-12-2013, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Bat21

It would be difficult to monitor how many tech questions each newbie had asked, so the best form of censorship would be for those who so often answer to say "oi, time to join up and we will tell you the answer"

That's the way

I just give very short answers and nag 'em to pay up

Banshee · 06-12-2013, 13:12

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

That's the way

I just give very short answers and nag 'em to pay up

It only took you to say that once after your very helpful post when I introduced myself and I paid the membership

The answer you provided me was worth £10 alone!!!!!!

firebobby · 06-12-2013, 13:38

A few hello and welcomes and maybe a couple of enquiries are fine, but as a few members already do, we just badger them to join, saying "you get so much more info if you pays your tenner".

Most take the hint, but as Bat says, if they don't want to pay up...stop answering their questions.

At the end of the day, £10 is nothing for the advice you get from our club

clivvy · 06-12-2013, 18:26

I agree. people who get the hump because they are asked to pay for full membership are not worth working with, because they are all take take take, and that's no good. This club works, because everyone here is decent and understands the worth of being helpful. We have to keep this site going, but that costs - that's a fact, and if people cant understand that, if they cant understand that not everything is free, then they can sod off and go to a library. the £10 fee is a bargain, and though I understand times are hard for most, owning a Terrano or Maverick and coming here for help shows you must have the money because these cars cost a hell of a lot more to fix without the help from this club, so those excuses are rubbish!

One point to make though, is that there will be long running members who no longer pay the £10 fee, and I think this is fine. A majority of those guys have proven themselves time and again, so if they cant afford the fee right now, or don't really benefit then that should be fine also.

05-12-2013, 17:32	#1
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	" introductions " how long should we give visitors the opportunity to " introduce themselves " ? ..... as I feel some people are abusing this option to post technical questions on a regular basis , at the detriment of paying members ..... its not fair in my opinion .

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05-12-2013, 17:47	#3
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	It's very hard, the reason I joined was everyone was so friendly, and up for a laugh, but I only knew that by looking around and reading posts and responces Maybe, they should be allowed to read the posts in just one section, maybe Terrano Mods, and only allowed to post in introductions. Then if they had a question, they could ask, and the members would not post answers, just something like. Hi, and Welcome, yes, we have seen that a few times, and there are several posts on here on how to fault find that for the members. Then they would have to join to get the answer, and if they have paid, then hopefully they would then join in. Something I also like, is how people are not (normally) sticklers for staying on topic... often it is the anecdotes that go along with a question that makes it more fun.

05-12-2013, 18:01	#4
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	don't get me wrong , im all for helping people and keeping the wonderfull nature of the forum , but I feel some people are abusing the friendly and helpful nature of members , why pay for something when you can get it for free sort of attitude .

05-12-2013, 19:21	#5
dave123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: exeter devon Vehicle: terrano 2 /2.7se tdi Posts: 519	I joined back in june because I had just brought my first t2 and was having a few issue with it and I feel for just £10 you have got so much help and you get to meet good natured people who are nothing but kind and all willing to help . I will stay a member . people need to join and stop trying to get stuff for nothing

05-12-2013, 20:15	#6
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	I think to be fair, the site has to prove its worth, and you only find that out by asking questions. I have seen countless members based on that method and I think its fine. A limit, yeah three sounds alright to me because lets face it the membership fee is covered usually with just one question answered and the result being positive!

06-12-2013, 13:38	#11
firebobby Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Bucks Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE 2005 Posts: 3,499	A few hello and welcomes and maybe a couple of enquiries are fine, but as a few members already do, we just badger them to join, saying "you get so much more info if you pays your tenner". Most take the hint, but as Bat says, if they don't want to pay up...stop answering their questions. At the end of the day, £10 is nothing for the advice you get from our club

06-12-2013, 18:26	#12
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	I agree. people who get the hump because they are asked to pay for full membership are not worth working with, because they are all take take take, and that's no good. This club works, because everyone here is decent and understands the worth of being helpful. We have to keep this site going, but that costs - that's a fact, and if people cant understand that, if they cant understand that not everything is free, then they can sod off and go to a library. the £10 fee is a bargain, and though I understand times are hard for most, owning a Terrano or Maverick and coming here for help shows you must have the money because these cars cost a hell of a lot more to fix without the help from this club, so those excuses are rubbish! One point to make though, is that there will be long running members who no longer pay the £10 fee, and I think this is fine. A majority of those guys have proven themselves time and again, so if they cant afford the fee right now, or don't really benefit then that should be fine also.