new driving laws

96terrano · 04-10-2012, 17:27

what's all your thoughts???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/19822106

arcascomp · 04-10-2012, 17:34

I think the insurers themselves could easily enforce this by offering policies with black boxes paid for monthly in advance that are actually realistic and affordable amounts.

I believe that the stats do speak for themselves so there is a case for something to be done because at the moment we'll end up with people passing their tests and then not driving for years until they can get insurance, ok they might be more boring by then but they'll be terrible drivers!

96terrano · 04-10-2012, 17:46

aye i see youre point, i will never have a black bot fitted to my terrano, reason is,

they know youre speed
thay know where you are
they record stuff you probably dont know about!

it's an invasion of privacy

rustic · 04-10-2012, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96terrano

aye i see youre point, i will never have a black bot fitted to my terrano, reason is,

they know youre speed
thay know where you are
they record stuff you probably dont know about!

it's an invasion of privacy

Well I don't want to burst your bubble, but if they really wanted to they can do that now, just take your mobile phone with you.
They can use triangulation from several transmitters to pin point your location.

In fact businesses can subscribe to this to check where their staff are, or where they say they are and check the difference

jims-terrano · 04-10-2012, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustic

Well I don't want to burst your bubble, but if they really wanted to they can do that now, just take your mobile phone with you.
They can use triangulation from several transmitters to pin point your location.

In fact businesses can subscribe to this to check where their staff are, or where they say they are and check the difference

Yes but your insurance company are not allowed to do that with your mobile, nor do they have access to the world of CCTV camera's and NPR Camera's.

I wouldn't let my insurance company have a box fitted either but I'm sure a time will come when they are fitted to vehicles when manufactured.

96terrano · 04-10-2012, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustic

Well I don't want to burst your bubble, but if they really wanted to they can do that now, just take your mobile phone with you.
They can use triangulation from several transmitters to pin point your location.

In fact businesses can subscribe to this to check where their staff are, or where they say they are and check the difference

that's illegal sounding

dollywobbler · 04-10-2012, 18:27

Clearly something needs to be done. There are too many young drivers having accidents and as a result, insurance is horrifically expensive for young'uns. An entire year to learn how to drive though? How long is that going to take?

More education about the results of driving like an idiot would help. Frankly for all ages. Everyone feels immune and invincible whereas if they knew how closely they were flirting with death, they might drive a bit more appropriately.

Fez_uk · 04-10-2012, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustic

Well I don't want to burst your bubble, but if they really wanted to they can do that now, just take your mobile phone with you.
They can use triangulation from several transmitters to pin point your location.

In fact businesses can subscribe to this to check where their staff are, or where they say they are and check the difference

Not if there is no signal or the cells are spaced far apart like in the sticks

96terrano · 04-10-2012, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

Not if there is no signal or the cells are spaced far apart like in the sticks

Or off?

arcascomp · 04-10-2012, 19:13

I think the insurers themselves could easily enforce this by offering policies with black boxes paid for monthly in advance that are actually realistic and affordable amounts.

I believe that the stats do speak for themselves so there is a case for something to be done because at the moment we'll end up with people passing their tests and then not driving for years until they can get insurance, ok they might be more boring by then but they'll be terrible drivers!

Fez_uk · 04-10-2012, 19:15

Alot of it is young people driving too fast and not knowing their abilities with the increased speed.

I've done it but I was lucky when things went wrong.

melissachels · 04-10-2012, 19:40

i think its a good idea, canada, america ect do it n have less deaths per annum

opulation. i also think japan's idea of a selected car of low speed & small

would stop idiots jumping into high end focus, clio whateva that they have no idea how to control the power of.

supergnome · 04-10-2012, 19:40

Better to have a box fitted by your insurers than an undertaker.

stinka · 04-10-2012, 19:46

More big brother shit

spinna · 04-10-2012, 20:33

In Finland young drivers have to learn car control on skid pans, have night driving tuition and it take 3 years to qaulify for a full licence. There is more but i cant remember it all but i think they would make good racing drivers

04-10-2012, 17:27	#1
96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	new driving laws what's all your thoughts??? http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/19822106

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melissachels Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Near Armagh, Northern Ireland Vehicle: half of a T2 2.7td swb Posts: 1,216	i think its a good idea, canada, america ect do it n have less deaths per annumopulation. i also think japan's idea of a selected car of low speed & small would stop idiots jumping into high end focus, clio whateva that they have no idea how to control the power of.

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04-10-2012, 17:34	#2
arcascomp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Vehicle: 96 Mitsubishi Challenger! Posts: 775	I think the insurers themselves could easily enforce this by offering policies with black boxes paid for monthly in advance that are actually realistic and affordable amounts. I believe that the stats do speak for themselves so there is a case for something to be done because at the moment we'll end up with people passing their tests and then not driving for years until they can get insurance, ok they might be more boring by then but they'll be terrible drivers!

04-10-2012, 17:46	#3
96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	aye i see youre point, i will never have a black bot fitted to my terrano, reason is, they know youre speed thay know where you are they record stuff you probably dont know about! it's an invasion of privacy

04-10-2012, 18:27	#7
dollywobbler Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: West Wales Vehicle: No 4x4 currently Posts: 242	Clearly something needs to be done. There are too many young drivers having accidents and as a result, insurance is horrifically expensive for young'uns. An entire year to learn how to drive though? How long is that going to take? More education about the results of driving like an idiot would help. Frankly for all ages. Everyone feels immune and invincible whereas if they knew how closely they were flirting with death, they might drive a bit more appropriately.

04-10-2012, 19:13	#10
arcascomp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Vehicle: 96 Mitsubishi Challenger! Posts: 775	I think the insurers themselves could easily enforce this by offering policies with black boxes paid for monthly in advance that are actually realistic and affordable amounts. I believe that the stats do speak for themselves so there is a case for something to be done because at the moment we'll end up with people passing their tests and then not driving for years until they can get insurance, ok they might be more boring by then but they'll be terrible drivers!

04-10-2012, 19:15	#11
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	Alot of it is young people driving too fast and not knowing their abilities with the increased speed. I've done it but I was lucky when things went wrong.

04-10-2012, 19:40	#13
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	Better to have a box fitted by your insurers than an undertaker.

04-10-2012, 19:46	#14
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	More big brother shit

04-10-2012, 20:33	#15
spinna Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Telford, Shropshire Vehicle: Nissan Patrol y60 4.2d Posts: 1,287	In Finland young drivers have to learn car control on skid pans, have night driving tuition and it take 3 years to qaulify for a full licence. There is more but i cant remember it all but i think they would make good racing drivers