12v to 240v inverter

zippy656 · 06-09-2011, 21:49

Hi guys,
so ive got one. BUT
wheres the best place to put it..
under the bonnet and run 240 to the back
or
in the back and run big 12v from the front to the back

your thoughts and advice please

rustic · 06-09-2011, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy656

Hi guys,
so ive got one. BUT
wheres the best place to put it..
under the bonnet and run 240 to the back
or
in the back and run big 12v from the front to the back

your thoughts and advice please

This was discussed about 3 weeks ago...

zippy656 · 06-09-2011, 21:56

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Originally Posted by rustic

This was discussed about 3 weeks ago...

where?? i did a search but nothing popped up

rustic · 06-09-2011, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy656

where?? i did a search but nothing popped up

Here it is I did a search on 240 volts..

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/f...ighlight=volts

zippy656 · 06-09-2011, 22:06

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Originally Posted by rustic

Here it is I did a search on 240 volts..

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/f...ighlight=volts

ah yes.. have done that 12v...

but im talking 240V in the back... so i can use my caravan electric kettle...

briggie · 06-09-2011, 22:08

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Originally Posted by zippy656

ah yes.. have done that 12v...

but im talking 240V in the back... so i can use my caravan electric kettle...

easier to use a gashob innit ?

rustic · 06-09-2011, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy656

ah yes.. have done that 12v...

but im talking 240V in the back... so i can use my caravan electric kettle...

As said before ... Inverter next to the battery, run 240 volt cable, to the rear.
You can put it in a conduit, or even use armoured cable...

PS don't use the kettle whilst driving....

rustic · 06-09-2011, 22:18

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Originally Posted by zippy656

but im talking 240V in the back... so i can use my caravan electric kettle...

Buy a 12 volt kettle...... Simples.........
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-12V-TR...item5190ecbe22

solarman216 · 06-09-2011, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy656

Hi guys,
so ive got one. BUT
wheres the best place to put it..
under the bonnet and run 240 to the back
or
in the back and run big 12v from the front to the back

your thoughts and advice please

depends a lot on the inverter and its size, if it is a cheap y and draws big amps you have a problem, big amps mean big cables (I have a chart somewhere that makes it easy to size) but say you need to draw 40 amps (= about 500 watts) with the inverter in the boot then you need cables around twice the size of your starter cables, in order not to have voltage loss that makes the inverter work harder, and putting it in the engine bay is just as bad as they need to be kept cool not stuffed in an oven, hope that helps, if you want facts and figures then give me the details of your inverter, I can supply but need to find them (put them in a safe place?) Rick

briggie · 07-09-2011, 08:50

you can get kettles and cuppa warmers that simply plug into your ciggie lighter socket , so you dont even have to leave the car

rustic · 07-09-2011, 09:08

When I got my 800 watt inverter for the boat, it came with huge crocodile clips and heavy duty cable. ( It's wired in permanently now via an isolator switch and is 18" cable length from the battery).

So keep it loose in the boot, connect it to the battery when needed.

It should still be quicker than using a 12 volt kettle, including the set up time.

So if it is raining.... think again.

Plenty of ideas here.

Why not fit a sink, a 12 volt pump, a water tank etc so you can do the washing up as well.

Having done all this tea drinking, you will also need a portaloo, or a bucket and chuck it.

Curtains, a bed.... maybe a shower, tv,

Why not tow your caravan all the time ?

briggie · 07-09-2011, 09:27

not forgetting that when you pass a lot of current through a resistance ( cable in this case ) you generate heat ......needs some ferkin thick heavy duty cables to cope adequately and safely with that kind of current

briggie · 07-09-2011, 09:05

I = P / V if i remember correctly

zippy656 · 07-09-2011, 09:07

oh yes.

inverter got only warm too
kettle got HOT!

fridgman · 07-09-2011, 09:10

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Originally Posted by briggie

I = P / V if i remember correctly

Spot on

That means the kettle is drawing just over 83amps

I guess the inverter pack is designed for it. Not sure the battery will like to much of that though!

06-09-2011, 21:49	#1
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	12v to 240v inverter Hi guys, so ive got one. BUT wheres the best place to put it.. under the bonnet and run 240 to the back or in the back and run big 12v from the front to the back your thoughts and advice please

07-09-2011, 09:08	#11
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	When I got my 800 watt inverter for the boat, it came with huge crocodile clips and heavy duty cable. ( It's wired in permanently now via an isolator switch and is 18" cable length from the battery). So keep it loose in the boot, connect it to the battery when needed. It should still be quicker than using a 12 volt kettle, including the set up time. So if it is raining.... think again. Plenty of ideas here. Why not fit a sink, a 12 volt pump, a water tank etc so you can do the washing up as well. Having done all this tea drinking, you will also need a portaloo, or a bucket and chuck it. Curtains, a bed.... maybe a shower, tv, Why not tow your caravan all the time ? __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

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07-09-2011, 08:50	#10
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	you can get kettles and cuppa warmers that simply plug into your ciggie lighter socket , so you dont even have to leave the car

07-09-2011, 09:27	#12
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	not forgetting that when you pass a lot of current through a resistance ( cable in this case ) you generate heat ......needs some ferkin thick heavy duty cables to cope adequately and safely with that kind of current

07-09-2011, 09:05	#13
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	I = P / V if i remember correctly

07-09-2011, 09:07	#14
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	oh yes. inverter got only warm too kettle got HOT!