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Old 22-12-2010, 12:37   #1
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Parked my beemer up in the field when I went to France at end of May and only just started it up and sent it down the garage for MoT....meantime tax had run out end Sept and now I have an £80 fine for not renewing it or SORNing it.

WTF happened to 'innocent til proven guilty'???
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Old 22-12-2010, 12:45   #2
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I beleive you have to let them know it's off the road. I hate the dvla.

They fined my dad £80 for no tax, He had tax but forgot to display it!
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Old 22-12-2010, 12:48   #3
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Parked my beemer up in the field when I went to France at end of May and only just started it up and sent it down the garage for MoT....meantime tax had run out end Sept and now I have an £80 fine for not renewing it or SORNing it.

WTF happened to 'innocent til proven guilty'???
Yes you have to sorn it when tax runs out.I recently had an £80 fine for one that i did sorn on the internet had confirmation email that had gone through still got fine.Needless to say i complained and got the fine torn up dont trust the dvla always keep emails and letters from them for at least a year.Have been cases on watchdog of people getting fines for cars that they sold a year ago unless you have the letter confiming that you sold it the fine stands.
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Old 22-12-2010, 13:34   #4
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Parked my beemer up in the field when I went to France at end of May and only just started it up and sent it down the garage for MoT....meantime tax had run out end Sept and now I have an £80 fine for not renewing it or SORNing it.

WTF happened to 'innocent til proven guilty'???
Innocent til proven guilty only applies in Democracies,not police states,unfortunately.
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Old 22-12-2010, 13:43   #5
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I was isued with an aoutomatic £80 fine for no tax, the disc was in the window and was printed at the DVLA office in Birmingham, I had to photocopy it and send them a copy with a written explanation before they would believe me!
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Old 22-12-2010, 14:11   #6
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regardless of what the politicians say, we live in a police state controlled by a minority who manipulate to suit their own pockets................. it's all about control.
I wonder,
(given the state of the economy (caused by greedy bankers in the main), and the fact that VAT will rise in January 2011 together with interest rates, fuel etc..........)
if the people of this green and ancient land will revolt?
Maybe it is time for a change of politics? perhaps a revolution is needed to spring clean the greedy fat cats?
It'll never happen of course, the british are far too reserved and polite,
For the record, I'm not advocating revolution, simply suggesting the possibility.....
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Old 22-12-2010, 14:31   #7
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Saw a program on telly the other night about how the Government dealt with the free music concerts of the 80's and 90's. Did nothing for years and then put the boot in and brought in the new legislation in 96. Made very interesting viewing and explains how people were basically got under the Government's thumb again. Ocelot is dead right,it's all about control.
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When i bought my Landrover it was declared sorn and I wrongfully assumed that it transfered over. Called them when I received the fine notice and asked why they hadn't sent a reminder as they would have done if it had been taxed and due to run out, after all they had just sent me the logbook.

I was told they didn't do this and that it was my responsability to know the rules.I bet they make a fortune from people this way.

Paid the fine , learnt the lesson ;O(

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Old 22-12-2010, 15:20   #9
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regardless of what the politicians say, we live in a police state controlled by a minority who manipulate to suit their own pockets................. it's all about control.
I wonder,
(given the state of the economy (caused by greedy bankers in the main), and the fact that VAT will rise in January 2011 together with interest rates, fuel etc..........)
if the people of this green and ancient land will revolt?
Maybe it is time for a change of politics? perhaps a revolution is needed to spring clean the greedy fat cats?
It'll never happen of course, the british are far too reserved and polite,
For the record, I'm not advocating revolution, simply suggesting the possibility.....
It's all correct, though i am quite looking forward to the interest rates going up! about time it was worth while having money in the bank!
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Old 22-12-2010, 15:50   #10
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regardless of what the politicians say, we live in a police state controlled by a minority who manipulate to suit their own pockets................. it's all about control.
I wonder,
(given the state of the economy (caused by greedy bankers in the main), and the fact that VAT will rise in January 2011 together with interest rates, fuel etc..........)
if the people of this green and ancient land will revolt?
Maybe it is time for a change of politics? perhaps a revolution is needed to spring clean the greedy fat cats?
It'll never happen of course, the british are far too reserved and polite,
For the record, I'm not advocating revolution, simply suggesting the possibility.....
Ocelot is revolting!

sorry couldn't resist!
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Old 22-12-2010, 16:19   #11
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merely suggesting................................

"wonders if the fuel protests will happen again soon" ??

the cost of a barrel of oil has come down yet fuel prices are going through the roof.............. another example of rip off multi nationals...... again !!

Or perhaps if people do protest, the police state will arrest those who do so, there was a recent case reported on radio 2 of a 14 yr old who created a facebook page to save his local youth club, his local mp was non other than david cameron. The lad protested, peacefully, outside the con club office.
He was later on that week, taken out of class by the police, given a strong talking to and warnings of being arrested/prosecuted etc. So he went on jeremy Vine's midday program to push his case,
cameron, true to his nature, made no response........... why should he? after all, the lad was under the age of 18 and couldn't vote........

Kind of shames most of us doesn't it, that kind of belief ???
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Old 26-12-2010, 12:22   #12
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im not sure if this is gonna work , but heres the google maps picture ..... look on the left of the pic , you will see the cars.


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oops didnt work sorry
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Old 26-12-2010, 12:34   #13
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im not sure if this is gonna work , but heres the google maps picture ..... look on the left of the pic , you will see the cars.


oops didnt work sorry
yea does work Pete if you click on sat view, Rick
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Old 26-12-2010, 12:36   #14
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yea does work Pete if you click on sat view, Rick
you can quite clearly see a row of allegros and other stuff parked on the left side of the road , just past a school , and after wyke end lane
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Old 26-12-2010, 16:53   #15
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you can quite clearly see a row of allegros and other stuff parked on the left side of the road , just past a school , and after wyke end lane
well if he has a row of Allegros he needs sectioning not prosecuting LMAO!
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