home security

[(RIP) PLANK]

I completed the latest phase of my home security today a 10000 volt electic fence, is this going too far? :nenau :naughty

[The Patrolman]

NO!!!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

ac or dc?

[briggie]

1303

[The Patrolman]

AC/DC:nenau

[(RIP) PLANK]

it is pulsed dc one short pulse per second, so it has the same, throwing you off efect as Ac and running at 1.4 joules, so not deadly

[Deleted account DD]

At one time the spot where we store our caravan had a few intruders after high value goods on the hgv parked in there overnight.

When we were about to put the caravan there I asked him if he'd managed to sort things out with security fencing at that end of the yard, "yup" he said, "ever since I electrified it" :D:D:D

[(RIP) PLANK]

At one time the spot where we store our caravan had a few intruders after high value goods on the hgv parked in there overnight.

When we were about to put the caravan there I asked him if he'd managed to sort things out with security fencing at that end of the yard, "yup" he said, "ever since I electrified it" :D:D:D

and it's legal! you only need a notice to warn people every 50 meteres and that's only if it borders a public footpath. We have used all the proper gear, and even signs manufactured to british standard every 25 feet.

[zippy656]

just put some signs up..


will make them think..

[Deleted account DD]

and it's legal! you only need a notice to warn people every 50 meteres and that's only if it borders a public footpath. We have used all the proper gear, and even signs manufactured to british standard every 25 feet.

Excellent, as its also his land and not public on the other side of the fence I guess my "landlord" is on firm ground :thumb2:thumb2:thumb2

[Deleted account DD]

will make them think..

Youre making a dangerous presumption there...............

A significant proportion of the numpties out there cant think , and thats if they can read, especially in the dark when a lot of these troubled bunnies come out to play ;):D

[zippy656]

Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country.. point taken..
though there must be some people that can read..

[(RIP) PLANK]

Youre making a dangerous presumption there...............

A significant proportion of the numpties out there cant think , and thats if they can read, especially in the dark when a lot of these troubled bunnies come out to play ;):D

I think some would see the signs as a chalenge and try to call your bluff!

[zippy656]

I think some would see the signs as a chalenge and try to call your bluff!

just have a note on there as well..

part time electric fence..

so punk do you feel lucky.... well do ya??

[(RIP) PLANK]

just have a note on there as well..

part time electric fence..

so punk do you feel lucky.... well do ya??

lol, no it's on full time now, only a 3 watt power consumption so not and environmental disaster. The system is designed for keeping cows in line LOL

Our problem used to be junkies using a public footpath that runs past our side garden to deal drugs it's been over for years now, but recently i've seen lads 'hanging aorund' again so I did it as a precaution.

[solarman216]

All sounds good but at the end of the day a bit like intruder alarms, next to useless, we have cattle wire near us and the farmer was not sure if it was working, so I grabbed it for a while and when the pulse I felt did not die, I told him it was OK , he thought I was joking and that it was dead as I had not moved, so he touched the wire gingerly, and jumped three feet into the air, horses for courses, Rick

[(RIP) PLANK]

rick i deal with electric fences every day and trust me you wouldn't hold onto this one :naughty

[harlowmaverick]

have you got a link to where you purchased this wonderful product and signage?

i feel a plan forming!!!!

[(RIP) PLANK]

I will send you a link in a PM, I didnt buy it all specialy as i use thisstuff for other purposes all the time, mainly the jobs it was intended for. :thumbs

[solarman216]

rick i deal with electric fences every day and trust me you wouldn't hold onto this one :naughty

But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

[(RIP) PLANK]

But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

so your plannig to rob me then? :lol

no the idea is most of the folks from urban areas have never even seen an electric fence so they touch it, get a belt and then leave it alone.

A friend of mine had 'issues' with a garden centre that backed onto a canal, so much troble he could no longer get insured. Same fence system installed and 3 robery free years.

alarm - waste of time, i'll turn it off then. fence - waste of time i'll turn it off then

what about the door locks? crap thought so, i'll leave the doors open then :lol

but if each thing is only 10% effective, then having ten different things might do the trick! what do you think?

such cynicism in one so young :lol

[solarman216]

so your plannig to rob me then? :lol

no the idea is most of the folks from urban areas have never even seen an electric fence so they touch it, get a belt and then leave it alone.

A friend of mine had 'issues' with a garden centre that backed onto a canal, so much troble he could no longer get insured. Same fence system installed and 3 robery free years.

alarm - waste of time, i'll turn it off then. fence - waste of time i'll turn it off then

what about the door locks? crap thought so, i'll leave the doors open then :lol

but if each thing is only 10% effective, then having ten different things might do the trick! what do you think?

such cynicism in one so young :lol

Agreed, an alarm box is as good a as the complete thing, it stops the opportunist, the best alarm , will not stop the professional, electric fence the same, so easy to overcome, but to the general yobos stops them easy, we are fortunate enough to live in a place that we do not need to lock our doors, we do out of habit, but no need, we have cctv, but it has only been any good for watching the badgers and foxes, Rick

[briggie]

what you need for most bugglers is a visual deterent , and a alarm / notice warning of electric shocks / noises going off etc normally suffices to the brain dead morons that steal

[Deleted account DD]

Less determined burglars hate light and noise. More resourceful ones will check out the extent of your light and noise then decide if they can deal with it. A pro will have recce'd your place and will not be deterred.

All depends what level of atttack youre expecting and no measure should be discounted.

Alarms are very good because they put the level worry into many a burgling head and will create noise if activated (see above). Dummy boxes though are easily sussed :augie

Theres always a way around any electronic or mechanical device but it all depends as I said what level of attack youre expecting.

I'm sure theres people on here who have sadly been screwed after an alarm was disabled. But I can personally recall literally dozens, perhaps hundreds where people have been seen fleeing when a secreted security light came on or a patio door under attack set off the alarm.

Not one point above is made up. Its fact and literally straight from the horses mouth :thumb2

On a personal note I designed out home alarm. I looked at it from the "how would I want to by pass this" view. The trick with alarms is to think outside of the box and know how the burglar looks at your house. eg anti foam sensors are fine in the bell box but thats old hat now, do something like placing the SABI sperate say in a corner of the loft with a 200 decibel whooping siren attached.:naughty:naughty

Speak to your crime prevention bloke. Our local ones are spot on (have to say that really cos theyre good mates ) ;)

[Deleted account DD]

But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

Perhaps, but proof of the pudding is where my caravan is stored :thumb2

[briggie]

my mate trev has a great guard dog called major , its as soft as putty and lets you into the house , lets you stroke him ..... but if you try to leave he will pin you up against the wall :lol

[Deleted account DD]

we are fortunate enough to live in a place that we do not need to lock our doors,

A very dangerous presumption with level 2 travelling crims being the norm these days, presumption of course being the mother of all **** ups ;)

[rustic]

Locks only keep honest people out.

[(RIP) PLANK]

well i have two 'homes' on eis in a remote rural area and the closest neighboiur is half a miel away, very off the beaten track, and everything you put down gets bloody stolen including the electric fence!

You can only do your best, and another big feature of security is 'peace of mind' even if it is a little deluded, you can at least enjoy it while it lasts!

[Deleted account DD]

Locks only keep honest people out.

On many occasions yes , on otherd no. I recall one scrote getting his lock pick screwdriver stuck in agarage door and legging it. I also remember finding a broken hacksaw blade..............and blood, in another aborted motorcycle theft. The I'm confident they rate their locks.

On a slight aside, have you ever tried kicking in or shouldering a door like they do on the tele ? More often than not it doesn't work but it furkin hurts lol

[extreme-4x4]

i find my dog is the best deterrent . very loud, always switched on and has a big bite.

[(RIP) PLANK]

there are poeple now stealing pet dogs or randsom, i was reading of one case on the west midlands police force website today, after a long and interesting conversation with an officer who liked my new electric fence :thumb2

[extreme-4x4]

to be honest they would have a job pinching this one, he'd be hiding under the bed.
the last gsd didnt like people at all . and the other one roxy who the ex wife got rid of while i was at work was just plain nasty, to everyone not in the pack .... im thinking now maybe the ex failed to be in the pack.
bloody miss her ..... roxy that is

[(RIP) PLANK]

to be honest they would have a job pinching this one, he'd be hiding under the bed.
the last gsd didnt like people at all . and the other one roxy who the ex wife got rid of while i was at work was just plain nasty, to everyone not in the pack .... im thinking now maybe the ex failed to be in the pack.
bloody miss her ..... roxy that is

i'm not a big fan of dogs, i'm not even on touching terms with my own, but i do agree i like them more than i like my ex-wife :lol

[Darwin]

On many occasions yes , on otherd no. I recall one scrote getting his lock pick screwdriver stuck in agarage door and legging it. I also remember finding a broken hacksaw blade..............and blood, in another aborted motorcycle theft. The I'm confident they rate their locks.

On a slight aside, have you ever tried kicking in or shouldering a door like they do on the tele ? More often than not it doesn't work but it furkin hurts lol

Quietest way to gain entry via a nice tough door is to jack the door frame apart with a portable body repair hydraulic jack

[(RIP) PLANK]

the tricks i've seen used against my own and other peoples property in the last year woule astonish you. I'm not going to put details on here as it might be educating would be criminals, not that i'm implying any of our members are criminals, but better to be safe than sorry.

I have had insurance rated padlocks costing almost £200 each removed 3 at a time in minutes flat. A friend had a very good quality and well thought out, steel securtiy door backed by a roller shutter and fronted by a heavy steel gate, all secured with 7 lever mortice locks, removed from a wall in less time than it would take to get the jack out of the boot. All caught on CCTV! and no succesfull police action.

This has all resulted on over £20k of unrecovered loss!

and on top of all that my daughters goat that was kidnapped and recovered died as an (indirect) result of his treatment only last week at the ripe old age of 18 months!:(

[extreme-4x4]

the tricks i've seen used against my own and other peoples property in the last year woule astonish you. I'm not going to put details on here as it might be educating would be criminals, not that i'm implying any of our members are criminals, but better to be safe than sorry.

I have had insurance rated padlocks costing almost £200 each removed 3 at a time in minutes flat. A friend had a very good quality and well thought out, steel securtiy door backed by a roller shutter and fronted by a heavy steel gate, all secured with 7 lever mortice locks, removed from a wall in less time than it would take to get the jack out of the boot. All caught on CCTV! and no succesfull police action.

This has all resulted on over £20k of unrecovered loss!

and on top of all that my daughters goat that was kidnapped and recovered died as an (indirect) result of his treatment only last week at the ripe old age of 18 months!:(


pm me then :bow:bow:bow:bow

pmsl

[The Patrolman]

i find my dog is the best deterrent . very loud, always switched on and has a big bite.



Quietest way to gain entry via a nice tough door is to jack the door frame apart with a portable body repair hydraulic jack

The roller shutter on my garage is some15foot wide so thats some 'portable body repair hydraulic jack'

We have 3 dogs, 2 retrievers and a staffy!!:clap

I came into the house through the garage one evening and opened the back door, the dogs had seen me go out the front door and did not expect me comming in the back way ( this is sounding soooo wrong butt bear with me)
This startled them and the ran throuh to the front room and all landed on my wife, on the sofa shaking:doh
Useless!!!!!!!:nenau

[Adz]

:thumbs GEESE :thumbs

[The Patrolman]

:thumbs GEESE :thumbs

:thumb2:thumb2:thumb2

[Adz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN-OCPdLx6k&feature=related

When i was on the dustcart's, i used to goto a farm that had loose geese & 2 German shepards...
While i was sitting in the drivers seat watching the dogs :D 2 of the loaders would get chased round the yard by the geese :lol while the other loader through the rubbish in at lighting speed :lol
There a bird version of piranhas :thumbs

[(RIP) PLANK]

i've got geese, my gader PAPIN is very agresive and scarey, he breaks up fights between billy goats and rams, i've only been robbed twice since he has been in charge. and only anohter £3k down so the guard geese were a good investment :lol

[Darwin]

The roller shutter on my garage is some15foot wide so thats some 'portable body repair hydraulic jack'


Dont knock it till you have tried it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/US-PRO-10-Ton-Body-Repair-Kit-Porta-Power-NEW-/280513435149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item414fe7560d

Seen it used , no noise.

[Deleted account DD]

Dont knock it till you have tried it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/US-PRO-10-Ton-Body-Repair-Kit-Porta-Power-NEW-/280513435149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item414fe7560d

Seen it used , no noise.

most burglars have problems secreting screwrivers about there person. Not many carry that sort of stuff about. It all depends on what level of attack youre expecting.

We have kit on a similar principle to that. It is not infallible trust me ;)

[Deleted account DD]

The roller shutter on my garage is some15foot wide so thats some 'portable body repair hydraulic jack'

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol i can just picture the average err local resident, trotting along in the middle of the night with kit to fit :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol



We have 3 dogs, 2 retrievers and a staffy!!:clap

I came into the house through the garage one evening and opened the back door, the dogs had seen me go out the front door and did not expect me comming in the back way ( this is sounding soooo wrong butt bear with me)
This startled them and the ran throuh to the front room and all landed on my wife, on the sofa shaking:doh
Useless!!!!!!!:nenau


lmao.........wouldnt swap our new staffy for the world but i do suspect he would have been there with yours :augie:D:D