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I spoke to the garage a short while ago, it isn't good news Pete :(
They still seem to think the noise is either number 3 of 4 big end about to let go. As the garage is well over 100 miles from me there is no way I can get over there and have a look for myself.
We have £149 still left in Briggie's fund and I have received pledges from members here who have offered more if we can see a way forward.
There are two options here, either sell the truck as is and try and recoup some of the loss or, see if we can raise enough to source a secondhand engine and get Pete mobile again.
It would be nice to see this one to the end and get Pete back on the road. Due to the distance I can not offer any physical help but am more than happy to put another £25 in the pot.
If anyone else has any other options please do shout up but, for obvious reasons, time is of the essence here.
makeitfit
27-04-2010, 14:03
Well why not buy this truck off fleabay and oik the engine out. Then sell the rest off as spares to help toward the overall cost:thumbs
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120559379653&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Should get it for 300 squid I guess and it ends soon :eek:
makeitfit
27-04-2010, 14:27
I've just phoned the guy selling the maverick. He swears the engine is absolutely sweet as a nut :thumbs Anybody live near Hartlepool who can nip over to give it a quick thrash round the block? Wouldn't want to buy another lemon:lol
I suggest we the club and Paul 21 buy it quick sharp and let the garage do the engine swap. We've been quoted £400 to do that:thumbs
That would leave us with the old engine ancillaries to sell off and the remains of the maverick to strip and sell too:sly Set of 5 alloys, wing mirrors, starter ,alternator, diesel pump etc etc
So if a few more peeps would be kind enough to bung a few more quid in the Briggie pot that would help:clap
Anybody needing any spares say so now so we can get those parts allocated too:rolleyes:
I'll buy the steering box;)
I'm off my soap box now, enjoy :D
I'll bung in a score(20)
Tony:thumb2
I'm happy to help any way I can, but I can't add to the pot till Friday. :o
I'll help out with another donation if needed
i will send the same as last time ........... Bat21 needs to know what to expect in the kitty as soon as poss ............ but i have forgotten the address to send the paypal payment to .....................
Im in
please post paypal address
paulp
Might be silly of me but that e-bay one is a manual and petes is auto, aren't there different settings on the two??? OR have i embarrassed myself?
I pledge £30
can i sue that ****er yet ?
felixthelogchopper
27-04-2010, 18:14
What the hell, I'm in again :naughty
yes i'd give 15 again, as done overtime sunday :D
makeitfit
27-04-2010, 18:21
Might be silly of me but that e-bay one is a manual and petes is auto, aren't there different settings on the two??? OR have i embarrassed myself?
That's true, but I spoke to Paul earlier , who spoke to the garage who spoke to Paul who spoke to me so I can speak to you:eek::D
That engine is the same but needs various ancillaries transferring etc so we end up with an auto:thumbs I hope :lol
Count me in,same again. And I'll take a driver's side mirror too:D
Just a thought, seeing as how we will all be shareholders in Pete's truck we better do a list of when we need to use it. Bit like a timeshare thingy. I bags the first week in August:D:D:D:D
makeitfit
27-04-2010, 18:40
Just a thought, seeing as how we will all be shareholders in Pete's truck we better do a list of when we need to use it. Bit like a timeshare thingy. I bags the first week in August:D:D:D:D
Top idea :D
2nd week in August please :cool:
i dont know whether to laugh or cry ,im gutted about sally, i wonder if the engine was foofed ( deliberate missprint ) when i got the truck and fitting the new gearbox brought the problem to life so to speak ? , you lot never cease to amaze me , ive never had this kind of support and help before , its very very humbling to be a part of this group , if i can put my own view in ? ....
the place we sourced the gearbox from has the complete engine with ancillaries ( probably from the same car too ).
if this mav is decided on , how do we get it to the garage ?
im gonna have to save up for a heck of a lot of beers once i finally meet you all :clap
i had tried to raise some money myself towards any repairs by selling some of my radio stuff , ive managed to sell two items so far and have got £35 so far paul is more than welcome to have that as a contribution , a guy is coming at the weekend to look at my uniden 2830 ( its identical to a president lincoln .. jim know what that is ) but mine is quite poorly so is being sold as spares / repair , so thats another possible £30 in the pot , only my stalker 9fdx left then which i love to bits and have had for over 30 years , im hoping to keep that , but if needs must .........
im waiting till saturday to see if the guy buys the uniden then i can put all ive got so far in the pot :thumb2
I just dont know. really i dont.
ok, so the mechanics of the car. we have an engine, this connects to a gearbox that connects to various drive shafts and so on. this is what I propose. If we have to pay the garage, its to examine everthing this new engine and gear box are going to attach to, are all the drive shafts tip top? Diff? brakes? abs? air con? see where i'm going? i'd be beyond gutted if we do something so major as to have anew engine fitted, only for an expensive drive shaft to break and so on... i dont want to be a kill joy, i just want to make sur we make the right decision, because with the sort of money we seem capable of organising we could buy Pete a different on the road vehicle.
i'll put in though if this is what we decide.
sidsid06
27-04-2010, 20:01
i can give a few quid if it helps pete out:thumb2 cant be much as times are hard at the mo:( but every bit helps:thumb2
p.s. i'll have the third week in August :thumbs
every little does help mate, the way i look at it is if a hundred people give £10, we've enough to buy a "new" car. its amazing this club it really is.
sheila ( my beloved ) has asked if i can post her view .
she says if the truck is fixed , would i really trust it ?
if the truck is fixed is there anything else major that could go wrong ?
dont forget it still has a cracked windscreen
your car has to be reliable as the incident in ikley proved .. is this one ?
if you do get another car , someone you trust would have to examine it
these are sheilas views
sheila ( my beloved ) has asked if i can post her view .
she says if the truck is fixed , would i really trust it ?
if the truck is fixed is there anything else major that could go wrong ?
dont forget it still has a cracked windscreen
your car has to be reliable as the incident in ikley proved .. is this one ?
if you do get another car , someone you trust would have to examine it
these are sheilas views
This is why even i'm very very unsure about a fix. I can just see it now, we get new engine in, Pete goes of for a celebratory drive and the suspension drops off, or a driveshaft exits. i think if we could trust the car more yeah go for it but its been nowt but trouble from the absolute beginning.
I think we should all consider a new car, i know how it sounds, but its as good as a fix and at least with a new car, some of us can go look at it first on Petes behalf. I just think we should at least consider it and explore all the options.
sidsid06
27-04-2010, 20:29
see ware your coming from pete!
i see it as better the devil you now!
so get a engine put in yours as you have the gear box done!
you could buy another truck but at the money your going to spend you could buy trouble again!! unless you buy new:eek:
every thing wares out i bought mine and it needed a few quid spent on it after i got which i never new about,
just the joys of buying second hand you never know if the owner before has looked after it and loved it to keep it serviced.
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:33
I'm really sorry to be the harbinger of doom but I dont agree with repairing it.
Before I take some very heavy flack can I point out that I actively support charities and as a former staff rep (we're not allowed trade unions :augie ) I was known for bieng militant but going for the best for folks.
Lets be blunt, The car is a lemon, expensive to run on any account but this example is a potential financial black hole. You are throwing good money after bad. Just stop and have a think.
Its history is in definitely in doubt one way or another. No low mileage truck like that thats been serviced properly has premature gear box failure then big end failure. Its either a hidden high miler, an unmaintained thrash bucket or a plain simple good old fashioned BL style Monday morning build.
Two of its most significant units have screwed up altogether more may go wrong, you've got to ask:
What happens when the similarly poorly maintained brakes fail ?
What happens when the sunflower oil in the diff gives up?
What happens when the non waxoyled under belly corrodes (as a grey import it hasnt got anything approaching the level of under seal a uk spec car has)
The list is potentially endless and whilst not a problem at the mo i grant you could become so within the few years I presume briggie wants to keep and use it.
Normally I'd say give it a whirl. But as this car has already shown its true colours the evidence so far and Briggies circumstances preventing him diy ing it say its not really a viable option for him to keep and run a car like that with that history (or lack of it).
By all means everyone chip in but a far more rational approach in my opinion (and that's all it is) would be take a step back, work out the best way to dispose of this shed and then consider where funds raised all round will be spent.
Dont get me wrong, I donated last time and would again, not worried about that.............but I don't like seeing anyone's money wasted.:nenau
i will go with whatever the club as a collective decide .... cos i love you guys ( and guyesses ) :thumb2
I'm really sorry to be the harbinger of doom but I dont agree with repairing it.
Before I take some very heavy flack can I point out that I actively support charities and as a former staff rep (we're not allowed trade unions :augie ) I was known for bieng militant but going for the best for folks.
Lets be blunt, The car is a lemon, expensive to run on any account but this example is a potential financial black hole. You are throwing good money after bad. Just stop and have a think.
Its history is in definitely in doubt one way or another. No low mileage truck like that thats been serviced properly has premature gear box failure then big end failure. Its either a hidden high miler, an unmaintained thrash bucket or a plain simple good old fashioned BL style Monday morning build.
Two of its most significant units have screwed up altogether more may go wrong, you've got to ask:
What happens when the similarly poorly maintained brakes fail ?
What happens when the sunflower oil in the diff gives up?
What happens when the non waxoyled under belly corrodes (as a grey import it hasnt got anything approaching the level of under seal a uk spec car has)
The list is potentially endless and whilst not a problem at the mo i grant you could become so within the few years I presume briggie wants to keep and use it.
Normally I'd say give it a whirl. But as this car has already shown its true colours the evidence so far and Briggies circumstances preventing him diy ing it say its not really a viable option for him to keep and run a car like that with that history (or lack of it).
By all means everyone chip in but a far more rational approach in my opinion (and that's all it is) would be take a step back, work out the best way to dispose of this shed and then consider where funds raised all round will be spent.
Dont get me wrong, I donated last time and would again, not worried about that.............but I don't like seeing anyone's money wasted.:nenau
Dave, as ever, I totally agree.
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:36
This is why even i'm very very unsure about a fix. I can just see it now, we get new engine in, Pete goes of for a celebratory drive and the suspension drops off, or a driveshaft exits. i think if we could trust the car more yeah go for it but its been nowt but trouble from the absolute beginning.
I think we should all consider a new car, i know how it sounds, but its as good as a fix and at least with a new car, some of us can go look at it first on Petes behalf. I just think we should at least consider it and explore all the options.
I apologise for posting almost the same info later, I was off line composing so as not to offend and you beat me by a couple of minutes :thumb2
I agree with what you say.
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:37
Done it again :lol:lol:lol
I apologise for posting almost the same info later, I was off line composing so as not to offend and you beat me by a couple of minutes :thumb2
I agree with what you say.
that is sheilas view too it seems :o
makeitfit
27-04-2010, 20:38
Well as I understand it the Mistral has a new mot and all things except the engine work well and are known because Briggies been a driving it:D
The other bits you mention Clivvy can fail on any car any time. Windscreen..........big deal, Briggie can fix it on his own insurance anytime.
I also assume that the mistral at least had a cursory look over by the garage when the box was done.
"Trust" is a wierd condition to apply to a car :doh
I'm only interested in a relatively cheap fix. If there's an engine out there that someone knows is good and costs less than 300 squid I'd like to see it.
This ebay motor can be given a good thrashing to check out the engine performance and then driven on a one day insurance policy to the garage. About an hour and quarter away.
The remains of the car can be sold off and the money put back into a club kitty for er, er, come back to that :sly
Well as I understand it the Mistral has a new mot and all things except the engine work well and are known because Briggies been a driving it:D
The other bits you mention Clivvy can fail on any car any time. Windscreen..........big deal, Briggie can fix it on his own insurance anytime.
I also assume that the mistral at least had a cursory look over by the garage when the box was done.
"Trust" is a wierd condition to apply to a car :doh
I'm only interested in a relatively cheap fix. If there's an engine out there that someone knows is good and costs less than 300 squid I'd like to see it.
This ebay motor can be given a good thrashing to check out the engine performance and then driven on a one day insurance policy to the garage. About an hour and quarter away.
The remains of the car can be sold off and the money put back into a club kitty for er, er, come back to that :sly
perhaps a poll vote ?
for example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-TERRANO-MISTRAL-4X4-7-SEATER-/330427911425?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4cef09cd01
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Estima-Lucida-2-2-TD-8-Seater-Automatic-/200465312848?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2eaca9ec50
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISUZU-BIGHORN-3-1-TD-LOTUS-HANDLING-AUTOMATIC-META-BLUE-/250622463097?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a5a434c79
this one in particular look a superb ad, havent read it all, and dont know the reserve, but thast the sort of thing we shoudld look at
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-MAZDA-MX5-ROADSTER-AUTOMATIC-1990-BLUE-/130385043844?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e5b8de184
can you imagine??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-CHRYSLER-PT-CRUISER-LTD-AUTOMATIC-/320520738010?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa08654da
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-940-2-4-SE-HPT-AUTO-AUTOMATIC-ESTATE-/180498260101?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a0688e085
these are just examples of what can be bought for the sort of money we are spending...
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:42
Well as I understand it the Mistral has a new mot and all things except the engine work well and are known because Briggies been a driving it:D
The other bits you mention Clivvy can fail on any car any time. Windscreen..........big deal, Briggie can fix it on his own insurance anytime.
I also assume that the mistral at least had a cursory look over by the garage when the box was done.
"Trust" is a wierd condition to apply to a car :doh
I'm only interested in a relatively cheap fix. If there's an engine out there that someone knows is good and costs less than 300 squid I'd like to see it.
This ebay motor can be given a good thrashing to check out the engine performance and then driven on a one day insurance policy to the garage. About an hour and quarter away.
The remains of the car can be sold off and the money put back into a club kitty for er, er, come back to that :sly
I agree to a certain extent but a £300 engine plus £400 fitting :confused: not cheap.
Yes bits can go on any car but this vehicle seems to have a penchant for catastrophic failures not old age niggling faults that us diyers can fix.
makeitfit
27-04-2010, 20:42
Done it again :lol:lol:lol
Me too :doh
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:44
for example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-TERRANO-MISTRAL-4X4-7-SEATER-/330427911425?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4cef09cd01
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Estima-Lucida-2-2-TD-8-Seater-Automatic-/200465312848?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2eaca9ec50
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISUZU-BIGHORN-3-1-TD-LOTUS-HANDLING-AUTOMATIC-META-BLUE-/250622463097?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a5a434c79
this one in particular look a superb ad, havent read it all, and dont know the reserve, but thast the sort of thing we shoudld look at
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-MAZDA-MX5-ROADSTER-AUTOMATIC-1990-BLUE-/130385043844?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e5b8de184
can you imagine??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-CHRYSLER-PT-CRUISER-LTD-AUTOMATIC-/320520738010?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa08654da
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-940-2-4-SE-HPT-AUTO-AUTOMATIC-ESTATE-/180498260101?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a0688e085
these are just examples of what can be bought for the sort of money we are spending...
SOME :augie good options in there :thumb2
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:45
Me too :doh
:thumb2:lol:lol
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 20:48
This one (from clives list) , http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-940-2-4-SE-HPT-AUTO-AUTOMATIC-ESTATE-/180498260101?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a0688e085 top load lugger ,maybe one for the missus to do the papers whilst youre out playing in the green oval Briggie :thumb2
for example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-TERRANO-MISTRAL-4X4-7-SEATER-/330427911425?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4cef09cd01
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Estima-Lucida-2-2-TD-8-Seater-Automatic-/200465312848?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2eaca9ec50
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISUZU-BIGHORN-3-1-TD-LOTUS-HANDLING-AUTOMATIC-META-BLUE-/250622463097?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a5a434c79
this one in particular look a superb ad, havent read it all, and dont know the reserve, but thast the sort of thing we shoudld look at
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-MAZDA-MX5-ROADSTER-AUTOMATIC-1990-BLUE-/130385043844?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e5b8de184
can you imagine??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-CHRYSLER-PT-CRUISER-LTD-AUTOMATIC-/320520738010?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa08654da
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-940-2-4-SE-HPT-AUTO-AUTOMATIC-ESTATE-/180498260101?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a0688e085
these are just examples of what can be bought for the sort of money we are spending...
the isuzu looks ideal and is in leeds ... not very far,and is a very well constructed ad :thumb2
this is what i'm saying. the fix isnt going to be £300. the big expense, is labour, so we are talking AT LEAST £700. well, for a wee bit more we get a full on new car with 12 month MOT and a better chance to examine the car properly before hand. then, the mistral can be sold off as spares just as we plan, to me, theres only a few hundred quid in the difference between a repair, and a new car. when i say new, of course i mean second hand! but my point is this, even though i understand any car can have trouble, we have an opportunity to check the car, hell, pay for it checking by the AA and end up on top again. If you check that ebay ad for the Isuzu, thats the sort of thing i'm talking about, ok the cars HUGE and maybe over the top, but its an example...it can be done.
oh, just noticed Pete you said the isuzu is in Leeds..see hwo it goes, can pop over for a look.
stevecrm
27-04-2010, 21:02
perhaps a poll vote ?
I hate sports and would need a scaffold pole to get my fatness airbourne :confused:
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 21:02
Bloke who worked at our place had one of those Lotus Troopers. Loved it to bits. He went all over the place in it inc off road. Used to do a 60+ mile commute each day and it never let him down.
He only got shot of it in the end because of the cost of commuting..............then changed job to about 5 mile from home :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
sidsid06
27-04-2010, 21:04
ok their is no CHEEP repair for petes truck!!:( if it was cheep repair i say fix it!!!!
so another truck but trooper
my brother had 1 and had nothing but trouble
you name it it broke the amount of money he spent on:eek:
any jeeps on ebay ?
these trucks any good for you pete?
or a good terrano i say:thumbs
Deleted account DD
27-04-2010, 21:15
any jeeps on ebay ?
ahhh now theres style emerging :D:D
any vehicle has to fit thse conditions
must be automatic ... i physically cannot drive a manual
must have easy access both in and out without being too high or low sidesteps ideal plus a grab rail
needs to be able to accomodate my large and heavy joystick controlled electric wheelchair .... clive has seen this and knows what its like .
needs to have a flat floor ( not a boot ) to load wheelchair in and out
ideally 7 seats too so i can take the grandkids with me to the seaside etc
ideally diesel ( cheaper to run more mpg generally )
ideally 4x4 because if it snows etc im knackered if i get stuck , but this isnt too essential
reliable ( see above )
thats about it , clive has seen me and knows my problems , hope this helps you all with a little insight .
kind regards......... love ya to bits
pete
that wheel chairs huge guys...hey....i've just had an idea...!!!
zippy656
27-04-2010, 21:51
oh dear..
i had an 806.. geat BIG boot and 7 seats..
thought the seats are big to remove...
that wheel chairs huge guys...hey....i've just had an idea...!!!
does your idea involve me standing on street corners offering " services " because id have to give refunds :lol
zippy656
27-04-2010, 21:58
ok you mave have no teeth, but you can still suck um...
ok you mave have no teeth, but you can still suck um...
i dont like sweeties from strangers :lol
zippy656
27-04-2010, 22:01
oh well..
ok you mave have no teeth, but you can still suck um...
as much as i like you as a friend zippy .... there are limits :augie
zippy656
27-04-2010, 22:04
thats good then.. limits are fine with me..
that wheel chairs huge guys...hey....i've just had an idea...!!!
dare we ask ? ..... is it illegal / immorral ?........
MudLifeCrisis
27-04-2010, 22:08
any vehicle has to fit thse conditions
must be automatic ... i physically cannot drive a manual
must have easy access both in and out without being too high or low sidesteps ideal plus a grab rail
needs to be able to accomodate my large and heavy joystick controlled electric wheelchair .... clive has seen this and knows what its like .
needs to have a flat floor ( not a boot ) to load wheelchair in and out
ideally 7 seats too so i can take the grandkids with me to the seaside etc
ideally diesel ( cheaper to run more mpg generally )
ideally 4x4 because if it snows etc im knackered if i get stuck , but this isnt too essential
reliable ( see above )
thats about it , clive has seen me and knows my problems , hope this helps you all with a little insight .
kind regards......... love ya to bits
pete
I think you are describing the car you already have , well maybe not the reliable bit ;O)
Not sure I actually believe the "sounds like" diagnostics and would rather see it stripped down first .
But if it's a fix or a replacement engine I would be happy to chip in again.
Can't afford much as I seem to have worn out my rear shocks.
Don't know how that happened ;O)
dare we ask ? ..... is it illegal / immorral ?........
i was figuring we could have your wheel chair converted to 4x4....!!
I think you are describing the car you already have , well maybe not the reliable bit ;O)
Not sure I actually believe the "sounds like" diagnostics and would rather see it stripped down first .
But if it's a fix or a replacement engine I would be happy to chip in again.
Can't afford much as I seem to have worn out my rear shocks.
Don't know how that happened ;O)
cant think how such a carefull driver could do that :augie
i was figuring we could have your wheel chair converted to 4x4....!!
max speed 4.2 mph ... range around 10 miles fully charged
max speed 4.2 mph ... range around 10 miles fully charged
plus im not allowed to use it if its wet/or damp as i found out once :doh
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-TERRANO-1996-NO-RESERVE-/320521499542?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa091f396
MudLifeCrisis
27-04-2010, 22:16
i was figuring we could have your wheel chair converted to 4x4....!!
Good idea
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-TERRANO-1996-NO-RESERVE-/320521499542?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa091f396
the only downside on that is its swb
i still think a poll like adz posted is a good idea on options
MudLifeCrisis
27-04-2010, 22:20
cant think how such a carefull driver could do that :augie
It's a mystery to me too ;O)
It's a mystery to me too ;O)
who put that hole there ? ...... very inconsiderate :augie
MudLifeCrisis
27-04-2010, 22:27
who put that hole there ? ...... very inconsiderate :augie
Can't resist a big hole ;O)
Can't resist a big hole ;O)
the guy selling this is a trader ..... i wonder if he would do a deal with my truck ? , plus hes quite near me too
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ISUZU-BIGHORN-3-1-TD-LOTUS-HANDLING-AUTOMATIC-META-BLUE-/250622463097?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a5a434c79
extreme-4x4
28-04-2010, 00:01
sorry guys ... i totaly disagree with the fix for now...
my view is if the engine is dead or past repair. then id go with the popular vote...
but its not dead . its just making the odd noise... and a noise no one can actually say what is causing it...
my vote is... just kin drive it , and enjoy it . if it blows then look at whats left. only then can you decide to fix it.
you got nothing to loose. you might even find its not going to go bang and its something totally innocent making the noise
daved is right what happens when more goes wrong
I spoke to the garage a short while ago, it isn't good news Pete :(
They still seem to think the noise is either number 3 of 4 big end about to let go. As the garage is well over 100 miles from me there is no way I can get over there and have a look for myself.
We have £149 still left in Briggie's fund and I have received pledges from members here who have offered more if we can see a way forward.
There are two options here, either sell the truck as is and try and recoup some of the loss or, see if we can raise enough to source a secondhand engine and get Pete mobile again.
It would be nice to see this one to the end and get Pete back on the road. Due to the distance I can not offer any physical help but am more than happy to put another £25 in the pot.
If anyone else has any other options please do shout up but, for obvious reasons, time is of the essence here.
seen the garages diagnosis ?
if it does " let go " im really foofed
solarman216
28-04-2010, 01:23
It is probably not a lot of use as I am on South Coast but I can offer a workshop and fitter for free to change briggies engine over, I may even be able to transport his motor down here given a little time, Regards Rick:thumb2
extreme-4x4
28-04-2010, 07:36
if it does " let go " im really foofed
why your not driving it now . so you are no more stuck with it dead or alive.
the offer of the fitting in the south east is a very good offer, despite my view on spending out more on it. before she actually blows
sorry guys ... i totaly disagree with the fix for now...
my vote is... just kin drive it , and enjoy it . if it blows then look at whats left. only then can you decide to fix it.
you got nothing to loose. you might even find its not going to go bang and its something totally innocent making the noise
I agree. I would just drive the fooking thing. I bought my wife an old 2.5L petrol Jeep Cherokee a few years back for £900. This had the same knocking sound when we got it (I suspected engine bearings) so I just stuck some molyslip into the oil and it just kept going for years and years until the wife wanted a newer car.
why your not driving it now . so you are no more stuck with it dead or alive.
the offer of the fitting in the south east is a very good offer, despite my view on spending out more on it. before she actually blows
The only downside is if it does totally give up then Briggie is stuck as my understanding is that he has used his quota of recoveries?
Can't we put some of the £149 left in the pot towards joining him to another recovery service? That way Briggie is mobile while a more comprehensive plan can be put together just in case the engine gives up. You never know, it might just run and run.
Pleased to contribute to the fund again if required though.
Just my two pence worth!
Ian.
Deleted account DD
28-04-2010, 07:49
Can't we put some of the £149 left in the pot towards joining him to another recovery service? That way Briggie is mobile while a more comprehensive plan can be put together just in case the engine gives up. You never know, it might just run and run.
Excellent idea, hadnt thought of that one :thumb2
dont forget, if Briggies truck dies on him half way to Bodmin Moor or something, hes screwed for many reasons, mainly HE CANT WALK FAR. so hows he gonna get out to help himself? This is why he has to trust it, the car must be his legs. Imagine how it must have been for him on the motorway when it broke down first time. getting out must have been horrendous, so I shudder to think how it would go if he continued to drive it as is, and it did blow, say stuck in traffic on the M1. He cant just hop out and get things moving. Its an effort i cant imagine, for Pete to mobilse himself, hes a strong chap yes, but hes got a lot of work to do just to walk a few meters.
I wish it was something simple with the engine, but it doesnt sound like it?
It is probably not a lot of use as I am on South Coast but I can offer a workshop and fitter for free to change briggies engine over, I may even be able to transport his motor down here given a little time, Regards Rick:thumb2
hmmm....now thats an interesting offer!! what a gentleman!:thumbs:clap
felixthelogchopper
28-04-2010, 09:00
It is probably not a lot of use as I am on South Coast but I can offer a workshop and fitter for free to change briggies engine over, I may even be able to transport his motor down here given a little time, Regards Rick:thumb2
Surely this gives a strong push to the notion of a replacement engine. I know we can say 'what will break next?', but Briggie's truck is, like most of our own vehicles, of a certain age so it's a risk we can all apply to our own trucks. Has anybody given the rest of Sally a look-over? If so, what was the verdict? I still suspect the diagnosis may be wrong but given this incredibly kind offer it might be cheaper/ quicker/ easier to just pop in a new block rather than investigate further. Just my throw into the mix. :)
Surely this gives a strong push to the notion of a replacement engine. I know we can say 'what will break next?', but Briggie's truck is, like most of our own vehicles, of a certain age so it's a risk we can all apply to our own trucks. Has anybody given the rest of Sally a look-over? If so, what was the verdict? I still suspect the diagnosis may be wrong but given this incredibly kind offer it might be cheaper/ quicker/ easier to just pop in a new block rather than investigate further. Just my throw into the mix. :)
perhaps this fitter could give sally the once over too ?
the mot says summat about brake pipes , so i know about that , plus the windscreen , but as for anything else ... clive has crawled under it and taken pics ( see i met pete and sally thread ) but as for a techincal inspection i dunno
lacroupade
28-04-2010, 10:54
sorry guys ... i totaly disagree with the fix for now...
my view is if the engine is dead or past repair. then id go with the popular vote...
but its not dead . its just making the odd noise... and a noise no one can actually say what is causing it...
my vote is... just kin drive it , and enjoy it . if it blows then look at whats left. only then can you decide to fix it.
you got nothing to loose. you might even find its not going to go bang and its something totally innocent making the noise
daved is right what happens when more goes wrong
Seconded - cheapest option by far for now is change your breakdown provider and drive it until it breaks - I'll carry on harping about it til the cows come home but I'd eat my hat if a Nissan 2.7 diesel engine thats capable of doing 300,000-400,000 miles in a London taxi has busted a big end unless its been run without any oil in it.
But this is a 'nothing to lose' option and therefore a no-brainer.
Green Flag drive you back home if its out of hours, then collect the car again in the morning and take it to a garage.
Failing that, buy an old MPV, plenty of reliable ones around and they do everything you need except 4x4, but you can't have everything in this life.
Not that I think you should swap the Mistral for anything else just yet (until it properly breaks or someone properly diagnoses it to be beyond repair), but one of these would be perfect (but still old and therefore likely to need work at some stage) -
Mitsubishi Delica (4x4 people carrier!) - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320523486473&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3D R40%26_trksid%3Dm570%26_nkw%3D320523486473%26_fvi% 3D1&_rdc=1
Ian.
this looks nice and ideal too and is only 19 miles away
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201016357339987/sort/priceasc/usedcars/transmission/automatic/fuel-type/diesel/price-to/1000/make/toyota/radius/20/postcode/hd62du/page/1?logcode=p
this looks nice and ideal too and is only 19 miles away
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201016357339987/sort/priceasc/usedcars/transmission/automatic/fuel-type/diesel/price-to/1000/make/toyota/radius/20/postcode/hd62du/page/1?logcode=p
Yeah, same idea. Loads of room and 4x4 (and about the price of a gearbox!:augie)
Ian.
Yeah, same idea. Loads of room and 4x4 (and about the price of a gearbox!:augie)
Ian.
and the club members get to rape sally for bits too :naughty
and the club members get to rape sally for bits too :naughty
so if we get enough from the bits .......?
makeitfit
28-04-2010, 11:48
Hello again, I dont think we should be chipping in to buy anything else frankly.
We just run the risk of buying another lemon at the sort of money the last few suggestions are at.
The Toyota is very capable and reliable its true but they're even more awkward to work on and not so good on the engine mileage longevity.Perm 4x4 too.
The Mitsi is like my truck, all bashed and bruised. They normaly go for 1500 min.
I'm happy to chip in to restore Briggie to the road in the cheapest practical way.
I just think now we should take up the free workshop and fitter offer. That way with the generosity of the pledges above he's back on the road at the cost of an engine.
THEN when it's done we can close this case and let Briggie keep or sell Sally as he sees fit for his future needs.
If you see what I mean:D
makeitfit
28-04-2010, 12:18
Here's an engine on it's own (no ancillaries) we could get for 250 ish :augie
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260524050114&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It's low mileage and 3 month G/TEE:thumbs
We've got that sort of money in the pot if we include the above pledges:rolleyes:
Job done, simples:cool:
(Well except for a bit of truck delivery :o)
Here's an engine on it's own (no ancillaries) we could get for 250 ish :augie
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260524050114&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It's low mileage and 3 month G/TEE:thumbs
We've got that sort of money in the pot if we include the above pledges:rolleyes:
Job done, simples:cool:
(Well except for a bit of truck delivery :o)
is this a idea ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nissan-2-5-TD-2-7-TD-3-0-TDI-Engine-bearings-set-diesel-/270564917142?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3efeecff96
Deleted account DD
28-04-2010, 13:02
this looks nice and ideal too and is only 19 miles away
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201016357339987/sort/priceasc/usedcars/transmission/automatic/fuel-type/diesel/price-to/1000/make/toyota/radius/20/postcode/hd62du/page/1?logcode=p
possibly a good option if you want to buy a new vehicle. I personally would avoid something thats name sounded like something they do to you in hospital :nenau
i think make It Fit makes a fair point. the generous offer of help from the south coast changes things, and as Makeit suggests, if the truck still plays up, it shoudl still be a runner worth soem money and he can tarde in/ sell on as he see fit, as a club, we've still helped and he'll still be on the road one way or another.
the off er of fitting the engine is very VERY generous, i'm leaning that way with a view to getting the truck fixed and on the road, then, Petes options increase ten fold because a working, moveable truck is worth considerably more than the sum of its parts.
solarman216
28-04-2010, 16:10
I have got to go up to Nelson some time to look at a job so no problem on picking Briggies motor up, he cant be too far from Nelson either, if you find another engine we can sling that in, if its another car I can bring another driver to drive it back as long as it is able as it were, Rick:thumb2
There's so many proposals flying about,it might be a good idea just to pick a few of the good ones and see which sounds best. Have to agree , the offer of the workshop and someone to fit an engine seems to be number one at the moment.
extreme-4x4
28-04-2010, 17:03
like i said the offer of workshop and transplant is a very nice offer..... when its actually broken.
its not yet.
so drive it and see.... again nothing to loose
makeitfit
28-04-2010, 18:02
is this a idea ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nissan-2-5-TD-2-7-TD-3-0-TDI-Engine-bearings-set-diesel-/270564917142?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3efeecff96
I dont think it's worth stripping the engine down to do the shells, even IF it is the big ends:augie
Quicker and easier to just oik one out and stick one in:D
solarman216
28-04-2010, 18:18
Just a quick up date on repairs, if the bottom is knocking at all it's a crank regrind, no other way, just shells is not an option, if it is knocking then driving is not an option either, above 2000 or so revs and I would not give it 50 miles, before it became undriveable and possibly wreck the engine for good into the bargain, find me an engine and I will put it in, local yards to me only have a 2.4 petrol, Rick
makeitfit
28-04-2010, 18:27
Here's one I found earlier with low miles and 3 mths g/tee
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260524050114&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Trouble is we just dont bloody know exactly what's wrong with it.
However if Briggie wont drive it for fear of it konking out and not getting recovered etc etc I'd like to see the engine changed and then we can walk away from this heads high.
Briggie's then on his own to use it and abuse it as he sees fit :sly
extreme-4x4
28-04-2010, 18:32
ok as you adamant in changing it.. and pete wont drive it
how about petes mrs drives the nissan and pete drives the landy...
or show us exacly how much this will cost...
engine transportation . consumables everything .
how much is this going to cost as a last ditch effort , not that i agree with it you understand . not till its broke anyway
makeitfit
28-04-2010, 18:46
How about a poll?
I'm not pushing for one fix or another, other than I dont see we should be considering buying Briggie another truck/car.
Fix it , and leave it for him to use:bow
aye, I give in, a POLL is required lol, some brilliant ideas floating about, but we need to all agree, then we can settle into the interesting part of actually fixing the machine, I still cant get over the offer from down south, totally awesome, would be silly to pass on that offer. I agree as wel that the engine is going to go, and under Petes circumstances, its too risky, and a bit tight tasking Shiela to driv eit lol, her business/work will suffer as a consequence!
any hoo, whos gonna set up the poll? needs deciding on quick step.
zippy656
28-04-2010, 19:38
my view is its down to briggie as to what he wants to do,
after all hes got to live with it
Free workshop, free fitting and possibly free transportation, its a no brainer:doh
Pick up an engine from fleaby for under £300, no more needs to be said.
zippy656
28-04-2010, 20:12
can a tdi fit??
Freebird
28-04-2010, 20:39
How about a poll?
I'm not pushing for one fix or another, other than I dont see we should be considering buying Briggie another truck/car.
Fix it , and leave it for him to use:bow
Agree with you on that one, imo buying another truck is not an option. The offer of a mechanic to swap the engines over, all be it on the south coast, gets my vote, i am quite happy to chip in again to get this truck back on the road.
Then it is down to Briggie to do with it what he wants........
Greenflag are very good, my sons car wouldn't start he called out greenflag on a saturday afternoon, mechanic decided it was the rotor arm and it couldn't get one until monday so he calls for a flat bed truck and the car and my son were delivered to our drive in Kendal form
Bournemouth 320 miles... driver had a cup of tea and set off back, he said that it would have cost £600 if we had, had to pay, more than his car was worth, and this was the day before xmas eve. My son saved £45 in petrol, more than the greenflag cost him. Well worth the money. regards bri
I am going to start another thread in a few moments with the plan of 'attack'.
I will close this thread to save any confusion.
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