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hiya folks , ive just aquired a 1996 nissan mistral 2.7 td auto ( lwb ) , it drives absolutely superb , any advice or recommendations ? its done 80,000 miles and been serviced regularly , nice to join you , and i hope to meet some of you at meetings / rallies etc , regards , pete
Welcome to the club Pete, there are a lot of members who are willing to help with any advice you need to keep your motor going !,
I have had my Mistral for 4 years and it has been a great motor !
John
zippy656
11-03-2010, 06:46
welcome Pete.
youll get on well here im sure, great info and fun
thankyou very much for the lovely welcome ,i bought the mistral because im disabled after a stroke and needed a reliable automatic which could take my electric wheelchair ( not scooter ) , also the grandkids on a trip out , on first impression its a lovely vehicle , it says its a eight seater , but to be honest i cant see how , many thanks for your wishes ( do i get a club sticker for the .car ? haha ) regards . pete
Ian Hunt
11-03-2010, 10:12
( do i get a club sticker for the .car ? haha )
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/merchandise/
jims-terrano
11-03-2010, 18:03
Hi Pete and Welcome aboard. Where in West Yorks are you? I'm a Spen Valley lad but now live near Huddersfield for my sins.
Jim
Hi Pete, welcome to the club! Glad you like your Mistral! as for advice etc, so long as everythngs nicely serviced and so on you should be fine. Just ensure during the next servcies the correct oils are used, especially for the diffs, and if they change the filter, grab a K&N, its not boy racerish, but it does have some excellent benefits for these engines.
Im in Huddersfield also, it will be nice to meet you one day hopefully at some sort of off road venture, you never know!
take care fella!
im very dissapointed , i had test drove the mistral for about 30 mins ,it drove beautifully ,so i went back to pay for it (bought it on e bay ) and happily drove it away , it was a beautufull looking vehicle , however .....i drove from my home in brighouse to leeds ( a distance of about 20 miles on the motorway ) the car started to jerk and wasnt going very fast although the engine was revving quite well , i had to stop on the hard shoulder and call the rac , the patrolman said it was something called a torque converter that has gone, and was very expensive to fix , as i had spent every penny i had on buying this car, a bill in excess of £800 is not a option , so i am now carless and the car is parked up untill i can afford to repair it, is this a common fault ? and would the seller have known about this ? , HELP !!! kind regards , pete .
jims-terrano
11-03-2010, 21:02
Hi Pete, sorry to here of your problems but I have to say that is very unusual. Never hear of the TC breaking down before? I'd be getting a second opinion if I were you mate.
What sprung to mind was air in the fuel system? do you know if it's been serviced recently? cheaper fuel filters seem to leak air into the system. You may also got some smoke with this problem too.
If it is the TC that has a problem it may well be worth getting the oil's changed.
You'll get a few replies on here and I'll bet there will be more than me saying get a second opinion. These trucks are almost bullet proof. Get it fixed and drive through the Ford at the bottom of Thornhills Lane, that'll put the smile back on ya face:thumbs
Jim
PS don't lose heart so early
Ian Hunt
11-03-2010, 21:05
Commiserations :(
I'm also in the process of trying to sort out hidden gremlins in a car I bought privately via autrader a couple of weeks or so back. It also looked good & drove well on 2 long test drives.........
I have moments of feeling pissed off but I guess "these things are sent to try us", "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" etc etc.
Torque converter? Must be an auto then. No idea about replacement items but on Mercedes auto boxes, a change of AT fluid can work wonders.
Best of luck with it
Ian
jims-terrano
11-03-2010, 21:10
Just had a thought after reading Ian Hunt's thread. Look in the downloads section via Quick Links, there is a workshop about the Banjo Mini Filter. I'm pretty sure yours has one and may well be a cause of fuel starvation.
Jim
thanks for the replies , but just before it came to a stop , it felt like the clutch was slipping .. even though its a automatic ,eventually the engine was revving happily and sounded good , but wasnt going anywhere , kind regards and thanks , pete .
jims-terrano
11-03-2010, 21:25
Still need a second opinion though. A change of fluid is worth a try. Do you have any come back at all?
Contact Ebay perhaps?
Like I said very unusual as these motors are good.
Jim
like a true idiot i paid cash on collection
Pete,
it just sounds like you are having similar problems as the rest of us, an dyes, the seller was bound to hav eknown, regardless of your test drive, as an example, i am having major issues with mine, and all through repairing it this year, i was having little test drives to see if i fixed one issue, seemingly I had, then something else would turn up, anyway, i realised the other day I wasnt drivign it for long enough, or hard enough, for the problems to materialise, hence yourissues turning up after 20 miles of harder driving. these sorts of issues develop, i have found, they dont just turn up. this is probably why the chap has sold the car, hes lucky the test drives went ok.
I don tknow automatics, so dont know what a torque converter is BUT it seems to me that your problem has come about after the engine is properly warmed up, which is what happens to me, jerky jerky then stall. You seriously need to read the codes BEFORE taking to a garage, I bet you have a couple or more codes on there relating to this issue, and I wouldnt be surprised if its the ckp sensor.
reading the codes is not hard or complicated, you just need a paper clip and you can do it from the drivers seat. Get that done FIRST job, and come back to us.
this is bad luck mate, but listen, its worth saving, and with help from us lot, you can keep the costs low I am sure.
I just looked up torque converter, obviously an auto thing, when the cars cooled down, try it a again, go for a "test drive" and keep it local, see if it goes...get those codes read then....
like a true idiot i paid cash on collection
did you get a reciept? I think you still have some comeback if you are going down that route, better check your legal standing.
oh, and by the way, to expand a bit on my previous comments, when i got my car just short of a year ago, it too test drove spot on. No codes nothing. Like you, when I go tit home, my problems began to develop, and I have since got most fixed, just three more annoying codes faults to fix then done. The times that my Maverick has worked, its been awesome, and I love it, these are old cars now, but all you do is replace the old bits and its new again!
jims-terrano
11-03-2010, 22:04
I've driven a Mistral Auto once and found it really nice which surprised me as I dont like autos. Don't give up just yet.
Jim
just noticed , besides the overdrive button on the gear selector , there is a little red plastic thing attached to the front of the gear selector , that appears to push a switch , ive tried pushing it , but nothing seems to happen ?
zippy656
12-03-2010, 06:48
ejector seat?
ive decided to try and get my money back rather than attempt a repair i cannot afford , unless a member wants to buy it off me for what i paid for it ? ( £1100 ), the rac man said there is no way this had passed a legit mot test a month ago with a crack along the bottom of the screen going from one side to the other , and its dangerous because it could go at any time , my first experience with nissan 4x4 is not a very pleasant one . kind regards . pete .
lacroupade
12-03-2010, 08:31
ive decided to try and get my money back rather than attempt a repair i cannot afford , unless a member wants to buy it off me for what i paid for it ? ( £1100 ), the rac man said there is no way this had passed a legit mot test a month ago with a crack along the bottom of the screen going from one side to the other , and its dangerous because it could go at any time , my first experience with nissan 4x4 is not a very pleasant one . kind regards . pete .
Pete the torque converter is the automatic gearbox equivalent of a clutch and if you get it fixed for a mere £800 you'd be doing bloody well.....its extremely unusual for it to go but it can and its very expensive - an auto box rebuild will cost at least £1500 - assuming they can get the bits for such an old truck....and replacements are like rocking horse shit........sorry your intro to the Mav has been so traumatic, especially when you need it so badly.
Do some Googling, try and find out a bit more about the seller (is he a private individual or a trader?) and think about putting it throuigh Small Claims Court - its simple and cheap and no solicitors involved (nor can anyone claim their costs for same)....you can even do it online. Good luck!:thumb2
i had to move the mistral this morning so that my beloved could get near our house , it started first time ,and seemed to set off quite well , but within a few seconds it developed the same symptoms . ... ie feels like a slipping clutch ,could the fluid have settled in the bottom of the box and temporarily relieved the symptoms ?, if anyone lives near brighouse and could check for me id be extremely gratefull , i would obviously pay their expenses for a second opinion , kind regards , pete .
lacroupade
12-03-2010, 14:16
i had to move the mistral this morning so that my beloved could get near our house , it started first time ,and seemed to set off quite well , but within a few seconds it developed the same symptoms . ... ie feels like a slipping clutch ,could the fluid have settled in the bottom of the box and temporarily relieved the symptoms ?, if anyone lives near brighouse and could check for me id be extremely gratefull , i would obviously pay their expenses for a second opinion , kind regards , pete .
Wwell fluid levels is the obvious thing to check but its not something you can do yourself by the sound of it Briggie....and getting someone to check the symptom is little use, auto gearboxes are a law unto themselves and unless people are expert in their construction and maintenance they'll just see the same thing you do.
My advice would be to google a good autobox specialist and give them a bell to discuss....but clearly the ba5tard knew what he was shifting didn't he. I still say do a bit of digging...was HIS name on the V5 for example? Did the ad look like a trader? Cos if so, you have recourse.
lacroupade
12-03-2010, 14:26
Biggie....this is the gist of the lack of cover you have if he was a genuine private seller...
Buying privately can be cheaper, but it is also riskier as you have fewer legal rights – the car only has to be as described.
So was the car described as being in good running order etc..? worth considering, then go to the CAB or Trading Standards and ask their advice.....and look at the 'trader' status potential.
makeitfit
12-03-2010, 15:00
Can you post the link to the ebay auction?
Then we can all spy the description and see if he's a merchant:sly
hi briggie. you wont get any codes to read cos your model dont have diagnostic capability. ive got the same model as you and one of the lads here put me right on that after i spent loads of time looking for a garage to do it for me. if shes revving ok then i would check the gearbox oil first. theres always someone on here that can help you or point you in the right direction. hope you get it sorted mate cos its a great motor when it runs right
sidsid06
12-03-2010, 19:55
hi.just been having a read through all the posts and i am sorry that your having this problem with this truck only after owning it for such a short time!!
seems to me the chap you bought it off new about the problem.. if i was you i would get a rac report on the truck and if the mot is dodge. i go back to the garage and say you are going to report them!! more than likely its 1 of the chaps mates you bought the car off! so they be on his case too!
then i go round his house and put it back on the drive with a sigh in the window saying this man is dishonest and a lier!!! and show him up!! have you asked for your money back?
if i lived closer i bring brothers jcb round to his house and tell him money back or the cars on the drive get it:D then its your turn:)
i cant stand liers and people who just dont care and only think of them self and a truck for that money the chap would have know that your not minted and still did not give a f..k!! jcb i think is the best option:thumb2
i took the car to my garage , eventually i got there , but very slowly , when the mechanics examined the at fluid levels , there was just over 2 litres in the box and it was a brownish /reddish colour , they drained the box and filled it with just over 8 litres of at fluid , it seemed ok , as they tested it , so i drove home ( about a 3 mile journey ) only i didnt get home .....i pulled up at a roundabout because of busy traffic , and couldnt set off again , the engine was revving away , but there was no drive , it was as though i was in neutral , no reverse / forward gears available at all , lots of motorists went around me and hurled abuse because of where i was . i eventually had to pay £40 to be towed home ( after paying £74 for the at fluid ) , the car is now parked outside my house , and im housebound again , ive tried phoning the seller , texting the seller , e mailing the seller , and as yet no response ..... the item number was 220566964698 ., because i cant walk well , it was a huge problem when i broke down because i had to get out of the car to divert cars around me , because the roundabout is on a bend , i am so nissed off that this can happen , but thanks for all the advice , pete .
jims-terrano
12-03-2010, 22:37
Good Condition? Just been Serviced and it was so low on ATF? 8 Seater nope it's a 7!!!!
Small Claims sounds good to me! then when you've got your money back time for a fresh one:thumb2
Jim
makeitfit
12-03-2010, 22:49
So was it in his name on the V5, have you got the old mots? If so is there a gap between the last one and this, was it done at the same garage?
It says it's just been serviced :eek: Who did the service? If you cant get hold of him your entitled to all the address info from ebay, just incase it's different to where you picked it up from.
History details please:sly
item description
"Nissan terrano mistral 4x4 in very good condition 11 months mot 5 months mot diesel 8 seater very good tires just been service many extras 3 owners , selling for smaller car, for more info please ring for 07865968221 thanks. no reserve best bid wins."
2 things: 1-very good condition :confused:
2-just been service[d] with only 2litre atf in 'box?! don't think so. what does engine oil/fuel filters look like? look new?:confused:
think you may have a reasonable case. item not as described. take pics, get full aa/rac insp report
want his name on the v5 , he said it was in his brothers name
makeitfit
12-03-2010, 23:01
want his name on the v5 , he said it was in his brothers name
Smells like RAT to me:augie
ebay name a bit suss too,
You can contact the old owner and ask him.
as stated above, it's not as described, and IF you've got the mot then you've got the garage that put on the dodgey ticket. Ring em up have a word and make a lot of noise.
Hassle ebay sharpish too.
tricky this one, but certainly not as described is it? because its a 7 seater, not an 8? other than that, his ebay ad is about as basic as they get, i wouldnt have touched it, no where near enough advert details for my liking, the guys pulled a fast one. Thing is, he says good condition, so thats correct, the car is in good CONDITION, he doesnt mention anything about it being mechanically sound, which I think will be his argument. I would get onto this immediatley, claim its not as described, broke down on the way home, this is not acceptable but as its a private sale, i am not sure where you stand. Certainly report it to Ebay, see if they can do anything, problem there is you are not pay pal protected, and his ad says no returns accepted, grr, a very tricky situation, a very clever ad in its simplicity.
I would also try to find a fix, but dont go spending any money now, lets try and focus on whats wrong, and see if everyone can find a fix?
this is awful, I feel right bad for you Pete, I really do. Let us know your plans, there might be something we can do, even if its just advice....
as bad as it sounds , i just cant take anymore , i just want to get rid of this , obviously i need the money back , but i really dont want to see this car again ,it has destroyed my faith in nissan to be honest .... sorry folks , i dont hold much hope in getting a full refund to be honest , but i can hope i suppose , its £1120 i cannot afford to lose , but i really never want to see this car again , kind regards and many thanks for your advice , pete .
makeitfit
12-03-2010, 23:28
No he said very good condition and just serviced. Just had an mot:augie
His brothers car:o
Rat rat rat.
You just need the info you should have. It's not fit etc get on the case to ebay urgent and then with his address do the small claims court form and tell him it's going ahead if he doesnt cough up.
Ian Hunt
12-03-2010, 23:30
Hi Pete. Did your mechanic have any other ideas or suggestions apart from changing the AT fluid?
There are garages that specialise in auto-boxes & might have a few further ideas. Some cars, Mercs, Jags etc & many imports are more commonly auto than manual & guys that work mostly on those might be able to help. I know a fantastic independant merc specialist but they're in Stoke..
It can be so frustrating when trying to solve a problem or sort out a rcently bought car. Feels like throwing good money after bad sometimes but by that stage you've invested too much to walk away.....
I know how you feel, having just bought a car with issues too. I like to think (or thought) I was pretty good at spotting lemons too. I guess I'm fortunate in that I wasn't relying on it as my only transport.
agreed, this is a bad start I know, but its not because the car is a Nissan, or that Nissan make poor cars, its because the previous owners has abused it, then pulled a fast one on you. I think if you are going to push for the money back, do so, but at the same time try to get an idea of what is actually wrong with it, I dont know, it may be fixable cheaply. It might not be as bad the auto box being broke, perhaps?
i agree with all that has been said, the guy has tried to pull a fast one. get on his case via ebay and small claims. get rac insp - then inform issuing garage mot u'll inform dot with ur evidence that they crap and issuing mots on unsafe vehicles? threaten mot liciense. mot lic lifeblood of most garages.
clivvy right its not the car; its been abused. they really are v good cars and it would have taken alot before it finally gave up. also need to consider that if rest of car good (rac insp will tell u that) then for the cost of a repair vs what you can sell car for and buy another unkown entity?? need a balance of whats realistic
mechanic said something about splines or something like that in the gearbox , he said that the only way to be sure was to take it to the local auto gearbox specialist ( costs £60 ) for them to examine it and provide a report , but to be honest im not sure i want to spend anymore money which i havent got , its almost like having your house burgled , i just dont feel comfortable with it knowing that its a bit of a rat , i HAVE to have a reliable vehicle , and this isnt .
Ian Hunt
13-03-2010, 00:07
Pete, Give Nationwide autos a bell (www.nationwideautocentres.co.uk).
My wife has dropped a car in with them before (a VW Beetle, auto too) with an intermitant problem. They had it for a day (twice), tested it couldn't find anything to fix & didn't charge her for the diagnostics or time. Serviced my X-Type Jag beautifully once for a fraction of the main dealers price too.
They get knocked as they're a non specialist 'every marque', national outfit, affiliated with the AA (gives quite big discount) but I've had nothing but good experience when I've used them (Stockport branch BTW).
makeitfit
13-03-2010, 00:08
I meant the bloke who did you is the rat.
Mistral with a dead auto box is worth about er, well not much unless you break it for spares. That's a lot of hassle:augie
Auto box usually mucho reliable, I think your options have to be down the chase the bastard route cause you'll loose big time otherwise.
its just after 9 am on saturday morning ( i bought the car tea time thursday ) despite 2 e mails , numerous attempts to phone him , text messages etc , still no response , so ... ive given his number ( a mobile number only ) to my mechanic , who will try and ring him every day over this weekend to give him his professional opinion , as yet i havent left feedback because i guess im too trusting , and there may be a good reason why he hasnt responded ( working perhaps ? ) but i think if nothing is sorted by monday , i have no choice but to take this further ..... any big muscly blokes for hire ? lol . kind regards , pete .... ps if anyone wants my e mail addy or phone number etc , pm me please .
leave some negative feedback and e-mail ebay with the sort of stuff the guys here have said ref not reasonably described
on the plus side you know where he lives. contact bbc/local tv they might be running a story on ebay scammers? long shot but you never know
extreme-4x4
13-03-2010, 11:30
its a tricky one depending if he , is a dealer or not
personally id track down the owner of the vehicle, and pursue them , if it is his brother well he'll probably not want you bothering him. cos its possibly reg'd as his to avoid tax or something . but he's the owner so its his problem
if its looking like its a dodgy mot contact vosa make lots of noise
also if you have breakdown cover rac or similar chase up to see if you have free legal cover . or if they will inspect the vehicle
the more noise you make and the quicker you do it . the more chance you will find someone who can help
but act now and loud
i have managed to find a auto gearbox and torque converter , its in oldham , the guy wants £800 for it , then of course i have to pay for it fitting ... a cost of around £1000 ........ not a option .
makeitfit
13-03-2010, 11:52
i have managed to find a auto gearbox and torque converter , its in oldham , the guy wants £800 for it , then of course i have to pay for it fitting ... a cost of around £1000 ........ not a option .
I cant see the point really:augie
You'd be better of buying another one while you sort this one out (money permitting ofcourse).
Here's one for a grand:thumbs
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1994-NISSAN-BLUE-TERRANO-Mistral_W0QQitemZ280475063654QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAu tomobiles_UK?hash=item414d9dd566
BUT you should have all the info you need to cane this plank legally , so go burn his balls a bit :naughty
I agree with all the posts, you are in a tight spot, so chase the swindler, he cannot be allowed to get away with this, I'd go to the police as well. If it turns out he's genuine, he's gonna have to take the car back and give you your money, that's fair and honest.
my mechanic managed to phone him , he offered to pay up to £400 for repairs , he couldnt give me my money back because hed spent it ,personally i doubt he would contribute to the repair bill , and to be honest i dont see why i should contribute money which i dont have , he was quite aggresive to my mechanic ..... sounds like a nice bloke huh ?... oh he was a private seller .
jims-terrano
13-03-2010, 13:24
Hi Pete, I think we are all so sorry you've had such a bad experience. I can understand your reluctance to persue this bloke but I do feel you should have some come back on this gob shite (most people on here know that I avoid using bad language on here).
Please don't let this put you off one of these motors as generally they are bullet proof. I've had mine since 2002 and it's done nearly 130k, in all that time it has been a super car not letting me down until a few months ago when the starter went and in fairness it had been playing up for a couple of years I just didn't know what was wrong as it was so intermittent. Anyway the weather was so cold before Xmas I couldnt change starter myself. So I paid someone to do it for me and I've had several problems since it's been in this garage but I can't pin it on him.
When you finally are able to look for another car try Elam's in Mirfield as they specialise in imported 4x4's and people carriers.
See Ya
Jim
car is now on e bay .... item number 330413567664
jims-terrano
13-03-2010, 13:51
car is now on e bay .... item number 330413567664
Well nobody could accuse you of being bent.
Good Luck
Jim
lacroupade
13-03-2010, 14:02
i have managed to find a auto gearbox and torque converter , its in oldham , the guy wants £800 for it , then of course i have to pay for it fitting ... a cost of around £1000 ........ not a option .
Briggie....just to be clear, the torque converter is an integral part of the gearbox, you are unlikely to get it seperately....the auto gearbox is physically just a bigger version of the manual gearbox but theres no way you ought to buy a s/h one without knowing its fully working - and you can't if its not in a truck.
Tell the seller you are going to Trading Standards, the tax authorities, the DVLA and so on and see if that scares him into action.
lacroupade
13-03-2010, 14:09
Briggie I'm just going to point out one lesson, because you've foolishly exposed yourself unnecessarily with this purchase.
That truck had a PayPal payment option.
Had you used it your ass would have been 100% covered.
Painful way to learn but such is life.:thumb2
Ian Hunt
13-03-2010, 14:14
Have you tried these guys?
http://www.4x4gearboxes.co.uk/index.htm
I know nothing about them, found them on Google, but they're fairly local to you - Halifax.
Ian
thanks ian , one advertised there for £350 with 6 months guarantee , but even that is beyond me , then of course there is fitting , lifes a bitch then ya marry one , only i aint married . kind regards , pete .
We're sorry there's an issue with your purchase. Unfortunately, this item isn't in a category covered by eBay Buyer Protection. We don't offer buyer protection on items listed in the Real Estate category, certain Motors categories, or in the Classified Ad format. You can try to resolve this problem by contacting the seller.
makeitfit
14-03-2010, 22:32
Well you can at least leave the sod some strong NEGATIVE feedback.
Have a word with your mechanic again and see if he cant secure that 400 squid.
It's one stage closer to a solution.:thumbs
we are sorry sir , but your purchase was a private sale between your self and the seller ,the only recourse you may have is with vosa who issued the mot certificate , and personally i doubt that would secure a refund from the seller , our advice is to consult a solicitor for any further options .
makeitfit
15-03-2010, 20:44
Well that's just typical. Sorry to hear that mate,I guess that means we can all sell whatever crap cars we've got and get away with it now then:doh
I still think you should work down the list though. Like have a word with the mot place. Also did you have a chat with your mechanic about the 400 quid offer? I'd be chasing that a bit quick too before he changes his mind and spends it :o
sidsid06
15-03-2010, 21:19
just been reading through all the posts again..... and yes im angry thinking about that the sod that sold you the truck!!! your a better man than me because i would have been round their with my 2 dogs and a large pice of wood,,,and if he never gave me my money back he get it no matter how big or small he is!! i had a sod sell me a trailer once got it home and noticed the draw was damaged he never wanted to give money back but he did when i call at the house at 5 in the moring!!! with a large dog and a hammer:augie so must say your a lot calmer person than me:clap i really do not like dishonset liers!! do hope you get something out of the sod.
extreme-4x4
15-03-2010, 21:22
just been reading through all the posts again..... and yes im angry thinking about that the sod that sold you the truck!!! your a better man than me because i would have been round their with my 2 dogs and a large pice of wood,,,and if he never gave me my money back he get it no matter how big or small he is!! i had a sod sell me a trailer once got it home and noticed the draw was damaged he never wanted to give money back but he did when i call at the house at 5 in the moring!!! with a large dog and a hammer:augie so must say your a lot calmer person than me:clap i really do not like dishonset liers!! do hope you get something out of the sod.
maybe you should talk to my wife then . she has masters in both
maybe you should talk to my wife then . she has masters in both
are you up for hire?
extreme-4x4
15-03-2010, 23:02
hire ???? no need she does it all for free
and i mean anything
maybe you should talk to my wife then . she has masters in both
problem is im disabled and use a powered wheelchair , hence the need for a automatic vehicle that can accomodate the weight and size of it , i would be no match for him , plus i abhore violence in any way shape or form , i guess ive been taught a very expensive lesson ...... incidently the car wont drive at all now , looks like if i dont sell it im gonna have to save up for a recon gearbox , kind regards and many thanks to you all , pete .
makeitfit
15-03-2010, 23:53
So what about the 400 quid then?
strangely enough ive had no contact from him , no response to my e mails , and when i phone it goes straight to his answer phone , the last e mail i sent i said if he doesnt wish to deal with me to contact my mechanic for a detailed report and estimated repair costs , but as yet hes had no response , i guess a lesson is learnt here .
also when my mechanic rings , it also goes straight to his answer phone ..... blocked perhaps ?
makeitfit
16-03-2010, 00:28
So what's the address of the twonk who sold you the car then?
Maybe time for an alternative contact :cool:
makeitfit
16-03-2010, 00:48
AND another thing, when you going to do the negative feedback?
im giving him plenty of time to respond to my requests , he might be on holiday etc lol , seriously if i dont hear from him by thursday ( exactly a week after i bought it ) i will destroy his 100% feedback
Terranoman
16-03-2010, 11:12
Do you have legal assistance with your home insurance or car insurance? worth a try.
I would get your mechanic to send a bill for repairs say £450 ish with 7 days to pay with a covering letter stating that the repairs has been completed and this is the bill that needs to be settled as per your telephone conversation on **/**/2010. Then if payment is not received within 7 days start legal proceedings. I have a number of a company that sends payment request letters for £2.50 which has always worked.
Work out with the mechanic a sum for his assistance in the matter and then at least you will get some money back.
briggie, its terrible to hear what has happened to you with the truck. It's I do think you would have been happy with it if it worked out. Afraid I know very little about the automatics and I know you are probably fed up with it by now but just a thought for what it might be worth--You mentioned that you had the AT oil changed and refilled. Maybe some of the other members here can clarify it but is there not also an oil filter on auto boxes that needs to be changed and will cause problems if its clogged? Did the garage also change an AT oil filter?
its amazing what you can find out from the internet , with just a address isnt it ? , i did a search online for his address , and strangely enough , his surname isnt the same as the one on the v5 , i also found out the name of his partner ( not married ) , and how long he had been living there , wonderfull thing the internet innit ?
its amazing what you can find out from the internet , with just a address isnt it ? , i did a search online for his address , and strangely enough , his surname isnt the same as the one on the v5 , i also found out the name of his partner ( not married ) , and how long he had been living there , wonderfull thing the internet innit ?
yup, but does it help you? is his v5 fraudulant??
Ian Hunt
16-03-2010, 16:10
To be honest, my friend, I suspect that you have little recall.
The trouble with private car sales is that they're basically sold as seen.
I bought mine a little before yours (& paid a fair bit more); it has issues (had some, still having others, & new ones- I've been trying to address them..... slowly getting there). I've not phoned the vendor or been round. It sucks but the best I can hope for is getting stuff sorted as easily & cheaply as possible.
So far, it's had a major service (paid for, factored into my original estimate), new front differential, needs a new water pump, one of the rear brake cylinders is weeping & needs doing, clutch slave - similar. Heater mechanism needs some playing with, clutch pedal has developed a major creak, passenger window sticks down... etc etc. many,many more.... .. still things coming to light. I could kick myself.
I'm not happy. The seller may have been unaware of a a couple of issues but........ well not all of them......
In truth, the only options I think you have are to get shut 'as is' & lose a packet (I won't do that with mine - like you, I have ethics & won't pass it on without rectifying or admitting the faults), or bite the bullet & attempt to sort things (admittedly that's risky too, they can escalate).
If the guy will genuinely stump up 400 quid towards repairs, then take it & see what you can do with it. Yes, you'll have to pay more out still but possibly less than selling it as a project & buying another. You could still have a great truck, albeit for more than you'd planned to spend.
Mine's gonna have cost way over market value when I'm done, but I'd stand to lose more if I sold it & took a chance on another. I f....d up when I bought it, I'll have to deal with it now & learn a lesson.
I agree with you that 'going round with the lads' or whatever, won't solve anything. Some people could do with a smack but it's not for me to get involved. Understand the sentiments though......
However aggreived.. makes no odds now. It's about solving the problem. I'd take the guys 400 quid if possible, see what you might be able to do with it & then make your call.
Maybe not the most positive suggestion, but I'm not in a dissimilar situation and they're the reallistic options I've thought through.
Mine won't cost as much for one single job, but all combined? Well, probably pretty close.
Hope it all works out. The whole forum is behind you!
Ian
leave some aboslutotley stinking negative feedback, don't wait, do it now. he's spoken to people b4 he realises who they are then filters the calls after. don't give him the benefit of the doubt he's scum, to sting you the way he has.
if he's on holiday then he can reply to you when he comes back, and lets face it he hasn't mentioned any holiday.....
negative feedback left , and reported to e bay for item not matching decription , opened a dispute case with e bay too ... seller has max of 7 days to respond ...... hes had enough time now , and i think ive been fair in allowing him this time , watch this space .
watching, going to be very interesting to see how this pans out, but we are behind you all the way...
his ( her feedback ..... its in his partners name ) has gone from 100 % down to 93.8% , i think they will notice that .
hes selling another car !!!!!!! ..... item number 220573870740
jims-terrano
18-03-2010, 20:35
Well done with the feedback Pete. How are you feeling now, have you had many people looking or watching your truck on ebay?
Jim
7 watchers , no bids , and some stupid offers of swaps . one being a motorbike ...... er im in a wheelchair lol . did you notice hes selling another car ? :eek:
give him a ring, say your interested in him giving you your money back.
extreme-4x4
18-03-2010, 21:02
i think its time to advise the inland revenue he is now a motor trader. and should be paying tax on his profits. vat man might even want a bite of the cherry too
makeitfit
18-03-2010, 22:50
Well spotted Colin, I've sent him some pointed questions :sly
I'll let you know what he says :augie
PS I think that's a very restrained neg. feedback :doh
makeitfit
18-03-2010, 23:13
Here's the reply I got, have a look briggie :augie
"my feedback is good apart from that last one the 4x4 was a old n reg he new there was a prob and over filed the box with oil and excepted money back in stead of bringing the car back as for the vectra its a 1999 car so do knot expect a new car it past test , i had to put new brakes and window wipers brake cable and tyres and bulbs i have the loge book its not in my name hope that helps thanks"
Me thinks he's defo a dealer. It would be interesting to see if this car is MOT'd at the same garage as the Terrano :sly
So I propose you bid on this car and then turn up for a test drive, one way:naughty
Possesion being 90% of the law or summut :D
indeed, although this guy really ought to learn how to spell, if he wants people to trust him. I'd never buy a car off a yokel.
my mechanic checked how much he should put into a empty gearbox ( he drained it first ) and found out it was a little over 8 litres , .... is that overfilling ?
well...can you over fill? i am not sure..
i think wot he means is expected money back instead of accepted lol
would be interested to know if you can overfill it , and what consequences are
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makeitfit
19-03-2010, 01:15
Sounds like Gordon Brown works there :lol
Just bid a million quid on his current auction:sly If they wont play ball why should you:cool:
I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU CAN OVERFILL THE AUTO GEARBOX AND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE , DOES ANYONE KNOW THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF AT FLUID LEVEL IN THE BOX ? ,and does 8.3 litres of at fluid in a drained gearbox sound as though its overfilled ? if so , its my garages fault .
extreme-4x4
19-03-2010, 01:40
sounds a lot of oil for me . but zippy will be along in the morning he will know exactly. he's the keeper of the manuals
and an early bird, he'll be on around 5.30 am prob have the answer before we all get up :thumbs
makeitfit
19-03-2010, 01:46
I dont think its too much. 3 litres goes in the rear diff :augie
The old slush box has a lot to do with that there oil, and I think theres an oil cooler too, maybe, possibly, ish:nenau
zippy656
19-03-2010, 07:00
sounds a lot of oil for me . but zippy will be along in the morning he will know exactly. he's the keeper of the manuals
and an early bird, he'll be on around 5.30 am prob have the answer before we all get up :thumbs
http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/at.pdf
page 196,
its 8.5l
im confused , i just had a message saying that the 8.5 litres includes whats in the torque converter , and that doesnt show on the dipstick , also never to fill it cold as atf expands ....... HELP
makeitfit
19-03-2010, 10:36
Sorry briggie cant help you with slush box stuff, but check with Nissan for the correct oil . Nissan seems to like all sorts of special and specific oils. Also read the manual Zippy linked to incase it shows a glaring error.
I think the torque converter needs emptying as opposed to just opening a bung:augie There may be some special tool (suction) for that.
Why not ring one of these auto box experts , good luck:cool:
Out of sheer frustration , i went out to the car , initially to check there was no leaks , but i started it , left it in park for about 5 mins ..... And it drove !!!!! , but only if the revs are above 3000 ..... Im confused now , do i drain a bit of atf out ? Can someone help me do that ? I dunno
makeitfit
19-03-2010, 11:06
Sorry mate just dont know enough to advise you. What does the manual say ref ZIPPY.
I know some boxes can just be "drained" but others need hoovering out,if you see what I mean:augie
There's probably something online about it. Most of us here are manual boxes :cool:
Old atf will stink and simply wont work. So big IF not all the old oil wasnt taken out AND the wrong sort of oil pit back in then MAYBE it's fixable.
Ring round some slushbox experts mate, explain your story and I'm sure you'll get the answer:thumb2
Just asked my neighbour to check atf fluid levels ( when cold ) the fluid is a dark red colour and smells ok ..... I wonder if we could save this ? ....... Help , the level is way above the max level on the dipstick , auto gearbox expert said the 8.5 litres is with the 3 . Summat litres of the t/c taken into account , so by putting 8.5 litres in , we have overfilled it .
makeitfit
19-03-2010, 11:18
Empty it then :doh
Id love to drain some out , but .... I simply cant , im in a wheelchair , also i aint got owt to put 3 or 4 litres of atf in, i can walk for a short distance , but i have no chance of crawling under a car , and the gearbox expert said do not drive it untill the fluid is at the correct levels , or it will damage the seals , anyone near brighouse with a big bucket and a spanner ? Lol .
briggie, I'm confused as to why you are considering the excuse about possibly overfilling with AT oil. I thought you went to the garage because you had the very obvious and serious problem with the gearbox. If so then the problem existed before the oil was filled and that whole issue is irrelevant in so far as your purchase of the vehicle goes.
Oops. Sorry. I see the practical side of the problem now. If I wasn't on the other side of the sea I would be only too happy to drop by there and spill some oil all over your drive.
i'm with makeitfit, it needs someone with slush box knowledge.
when you bought it, it was short of ATF - didn't work properly, now it may have too much? but we don't know if the torque converter needs draining separatley - but still doesn't work properly?
surely your mech who may have overfilled it could pop round and drop a couple of litres foc, after all he filled it?
im confused too , my mechanic said the drain plug was leaking and had been for some time ,which is why it broke down .... ie lack of fluid , but hes replaced a washer and refilled it , but it seems hes put too much in , he hasnt taken into account the 3 litres in the t/c , which is why it wont drive now the expert said , he suggests draining the excess atf ( which is still red ) , i followed his advice for checking the level ( when its warm and engine running in park ) and it now drives forwards and backwards , but he suggests to drain it now before any damage occurs , he said it looks like it could be saved , the fact i only drove it 12 miles before it broke down ,probably prevented major damage , instead of trying to drive it any further, im really confused , obviously the seller didnt check the atf levels , but hopefully i stopped in enough time to save the gearbox , heres hoping .
Hi mate
i have every thing crossed for you
i hope all is ok
paulp
i agree that perhaps your mechanic should come out and drain it down for you FOC, because he over filled it. its not a blame thing, but he didnt take the correct things into account when filling.
If i knew what I was doing, and had a bit more free time, I would help, but i just dont right now which is a shame because it woudl be great to see if your issue is as simple as too much fluid?
try your mech, see what he says. explain what you have found, and what you have been advised, maybe then he will coem out and help? i expect it wont take him long, just a quick calculation on hwo much to drain, open the plug, put the bucket down and measure?
It should all be in the downloads ! I put it there many moons ago ! Don't drain the fluid yet!
this is the corect way to check the fluid level in an auto box = with the gear lever in park= start the engine= foot brake hard on= now move the gear lever through all positions THREE times ending with the lever in PARK with the engine runing! the TC will now be full of fluid, now check the fluid with the gearbox dip stick, simple? by the way you fill the box through
the dip stick tube...
Bob (gw0fje)
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just read that , it also says dextron2 , he put normal atf fluid in , does that make any difference ?
Dexron 2 (or 3) is atf. coloured red, very thin and runny compared to gear oil.
Have you checked the fluid level yet?? If you check the level with the engine off the level on the dip stick will be high, (gearbox plus TC fluid)
Bob (hilltop)
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i did what everyone suggested and managed to check the fluid levels , when its cold the level is just above the maximum on the dipstick , then i did what it said to check the fluid ..... put in park , foot on brake , start the engine , and move the selector through the gears forwards and backwards a few times, i did this about 10 times , after the tenth time , i felt the car jerk ,so i took my foot off the brake and it moved forward !! , i put it in reverse , and it moved backward !!!!!without revving it to bits !!!.... wtf is going on ? has it got a mind of its own ?
Ian Hunt
19-03-2010, 16:20
Fingers crossed that you might be lucky with it.........
Suggest a few short, tentative test drives. Take someone along in another car in case it plays up again!
i drove it forwards and backwards for about 10 minutes , then decided to " venture " a bit further , so i drove it around the block .... a distance of about 150 yds in total !!!!!!!...... any idea whats happened ? and dare i drive it any further ?
if you have the wrong fluid in your box, it could cause a problem, there are a couple of type of auto fluid, ATF, and DEXTRON 2, i cant remember which one but one of there can froth up, you may have a pump problem or a slipping band, if thats the case it will need expert attention, ps, there could be more auto fluids now for these new triptronic type boxes, but for you truck it will be atf or dextron. :thumbs
hmm, unexpected, this is.
still, what are the levels now though, is there still too much? don't risk driving too far yet, unless you are certain AA/RAC will drop you back at home, but things do seem to be happening, looks like Hilltop's expert advice is going somewhere...
We have a clue? 10 times moving the lever back and forth to fill the TC and get drive?
well it could be the fluid pump on the input of the box but they are a bit bomb proof! it's
a good bet it the filter in the box, you have to drain the fluid and remove the gearbox sump
and clean the filter. I would take it back to the garage that put the fluid in and get him to
do the job right.
ps I THINK the above is part of the 60k service (I THINK)
Bob..
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ok , just drove round the block about 30 times , apart from a couple of episodes when i pulled up at a junction and it wouldnt set off without easing off the revs , it seemed ok , i checked the level when hot and its on the top of the dipstick , not on the lower level , also its missbehaving again and juddering , ... to me it seems that when its cold it runs ok , yours faithfully , confused in brighouse .
extreme-4x4
19-03-2010, 19:47
so we are looking at wrong oil or dirty filter or blocked oil cooler. or somit
throw these at your mechanic and see how that goes for now
yup, need to get it back to the mech, make sure he wont charge you for anythign though unless he speaks with you first, you dont pay them to scratch their heads.
as a foot note, the issues i have with mine only occur when the engine is warm...
makeitfit
19-03-2010, 21:27
I told you these nissans are fussy oil drinkers :sly
Good luck mate hadnt picked up on the full wheelchair bit, sorry about that:o
Deleted account DD
20-03-2010, 00:35
Briggie, Louisa531 has just told me he (or she?) is trade and px is welcome.
If theyre telling the truth that changes the whole picture for trading standards and ebay.........chase em up and I've got copies of the messages :thumbs
Deleted account DD
20-03-2010, 00:42
ps i didnt incite or trick em or anything else that would make the messages invalid :augie Some people are just too easy :thumb2
Pete, sorry to hear of your woes regarding your intro to Nissan 4x4 ownership... but it could be worse, you could have one of these parked outside ;)
ha ha ha , thats our lasses disco !!!!! at least its running tho lol, still no bids on the mistral .
no bids yet , i cant believe it , the reserve is £1000 and i aint gonna drop that , the engine sounds sweet and everything else works ,even the a/c and electric folding mirrors !!!, its only done 80,000 miles .
no bids yet , i cant believe it , the reserve is £1000 and i aint gonna drop that , the engine sounds sweet and everything else works ,even the a/c and electric folding mirrors !!!, its only done 80,000 miles .
stick with it mate. besides, i thought you were getting somewhere in terms of a fix? didnt you manage to drive it without fault the other day?
mechanic said it needs to go to a specialist auto gearbox centre for them to plug it into diagnostic gear , they charge £100 for this , he estimates a strip down and rebuild to cost £750 ..... not a option .
mechanic said it needs to go to a specialist auto gearbox centre for them to plug it into diagnostic gear , they charge £100 for this , he estimates a strip down and rebuild to cost £750 ..... not a option .
ouch, unbelievable.
makeitfit
20-03-2010, 12:26
Sorry to say mate but a nice looking truck with a sweet sounding engine and working aircon,BUT NO AUTO BOX, just means a pleasant seat in the carpark:doh
So it's only worth 4 or 5 hundred IMHO :augie
Have you ACTUALLY telephoned one of these autobox specialists yourself? Explain your situation and the overfill of oil etc. It may not need a rebuild, but stop all this hear say stuff and get to the phone and ring round a bit more including nissan garage and speak to the mechanics etc.
Sorry to sound a bit harsh but I still reckon you're getting a runaround here.
Good luck :thumbs
didnt sell .... some guy bid 600 for it , but his feedback was disgusting , offered a few stoopid swaps too ,including a motorbike and a fiesta ( manual ) despite it saying i needed a auto lol . ok my choices ....... i either pull it off the road and save up for a recon gearbox, i pay for a mobile mechanic to come and clean this filter thingy and check the pump , or .... i set fire to it and claim off my insurance lol . i will not give it away or sell it cheap .
Deleted account DD
20-03-2010, 19:27
Sorry to sound a bit harsh but I still reckon you're getting a runaround here.
Good luck :thumbs
Agreed.
As far as the seller goes get stuck in to them. You have more rights than you realised.
As they have coughed to being trade theyre in breach of ebay rules and you have protection from trading standards.
At least get a warm feeling from making them squirm, it wont cost you anything.
:thumb2
I sent a txt about the Vectra , as yet I have no replies.
Deleted account DD
20-03-2010, 23:13
I sent a txt about the Vectra , as yet I have no replies.
I think they thought I was interested in the vectra :nenau :augie
someones bid on it , so ... its either one of you guys , or hes bid on it himself lol
makeitfit
20-03-2010, 23:17
someones bid on it , so ... its either one of you guys , or hes bid on it himself lol
No problem mate , there's no way he's selling it this time round :naughty
been out to the car tonight , it started up first time , sounded beautifull ,i moved the gear selector back and forwards like i did before , but it wont drive ! , strange huh ?
extreme-4x4
21-03-2010, 21:28
dumb question but
i had that r3m terrano with auto box . now that had some switch kinda thing on the brake pedal cos every time you applied the brake it used to click. cant remember the perpose of that .
but does the misteral have the same set up
this t2 terrano i have now with auto box dont have a switch on the brake and dont click
possibly absolutely nothing to do with the problem . but maybe
Cars are female, best not to try to work them out. just pay until they work/are happy.
Did you guve it a couple if secs in each gear?
personally i'd leave it until either sold or slush box mech looks at it - might be doing more harm?
dumb question but
i had that r3m terrano with auto box . now that had some switch kinda thing on the brake pedal cos every time you applied the brake it used to click. cant remember the perpose of that
could that be the switch thingy that only lets you start engine if foot on brake?
extreme-4x4
21-03-2010, 21:39
nope you could start engine without foot on brake
thats true , its just you cant move the gear selector untill you put your foot on the brake.
Did you check the fluid level as per my last post. did you move the lever THREE times and leave it in park with the engine running ???? Did you then check the fluid level on the gearbox dip stick ???? was the fluid level right ???? If yes=yes=and yes then it may be best to get an auto box engineer to check it for you. any GOOD auto gearbox technician would be able to test the box insitu (there are test points on the box to fit a presure gauge)and they should be able to repair your gearbox.
Bob (gw0fje)
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fluid level checks are as follows ....... when cold , level is at the top mark on the dipstick ( the warm mark ) ....... when warm the level is about half a inch above the maximum level ( the warm mark ) does that make sense ?
oh by the way , it wont drive at all now even if i move the gearselector forwards and backwards ,although it moved very slightly this morning , the wheels screached as though i was doing a wheelspin and it jumped forward , but it doesnt move now .
The transfer box is not in neutral by any chance ?,
Bob.
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Is it worth checking the hubs aren't locked?
if i take the handbrake off and put it in neutral it rolls backwards so i dont think the hubs are locked , as for the transfer box .... i will have a wiggle with the lever later on , but sometimes it drives , thats the strange thing , albeit not for long tho
Is there an auto box sensor or something? It's just if it's a mechanical fault, I wouldn't expect it to work for a bit one minute, but not the next, see what I mean?
just another thought , when its cold shouldnt the atf level be on the bottom mark instead of the top mark ? ... when its warm it goes above the top mark by about half a inch , if its overfilled will this cause intermittant drive ? , but i will have a fiddle with my knob ( transfer ) later on
its nissing down , so i havent had a chance to play with my knob ( transfer box selector knob )
extreme-4x4
22-03-2010, 20:23
just another thought , when its cold shouldnt the atf level be on the bottom mark instead of the top mark ? ... when its warm it goes above the top mark by about half a inch , if its overfilled will this cause intermittant drive ? , but i will have a fiddle with my knob ( transfer ) later on
bottom mark is cold top mark is hot .... anything else i guess you will have problems .
ok ive been out for a fiddle with the transfer box , apart from a nice green light lighting up on the dash , when i put it in 4 wheel drive , and then going out when i put it back in 2 wheel drive , nothing happened , no drive .
extreme-4x4
22-03-2010, 22:07
i recon its toolbox time .
unless anyone near by to drain some oil out
surely if its overfilled it will spit it out ? .... theres no oil leaks anywhere ? :nenau
extreme-4x4
22-03-2010, 22:12
or give too much pressure . or something . otherwise why put a dip stick on it if you can fill it to where you think is enough:augie
anyone want a few litres of new atf ?
Will you please check the fluid level tomorow when it all cold and before you start the engine, I'll be backi on here tomorow am.
Bob
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gotta go to hospital in the morning , so i wont be on here untill after lunch , maybe even tea time .
Could be a long shot but maybe worth a try.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Automatic-Gearbox-NISSAN-X-TRAIL-TERRANO-fix-STOP-SLIP_W0QQitemZ300407928043QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45f1b534eb
In my experience auto boxes are fussy buggers and can act up badly if only the slightest thing is wrong.
Here are my main points to check before spending a heap of cash (or losing hope):
1. Check levels exactly as manufacturers guide - any other way will not give an accurate reading.
2. Top up exactly as MG too - incorrect filling can cause airlocks and foaming. Some AT units need to be topped up/filled with the engine running.
3. Use the right fluid
4. Make sure that the gearbox filter is regularly changed - AT boxes rely entirely on fluid pressure to operate correctly. A clogged filter can make an otherwise sound box seem like a broken one.
As an example, I used to have a V12 XJS; when my wife took it for an MOT the garage "helpfully" topped up the gearbox. A couple of days later it dumped it's ATF all over the road and left me without drive but I just about limped home.
Understandably I didn't fancy having to fetch that great lump out so I did my research and after a new filter and a correct fill up it worked perfectly and never leaked another drop. It turned out that the garage had topped it up with the engine turned off and the subsequent airlock had caused the ATF to foam up which then caused enough pressure to blow it out through the front seal.
Remember, not all mechanics are good mechanics and even good ones don't know eveything about every vehicle!
Hope that helps
Mike
Or maybe this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Restore-automatic-gearbox-without-costly-repairs-XADO_W0QQitemZ170454923837QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27afe7ba3d
im so confused , my mechanic refuses to touch it , he says he has advised me to go to a auto gearbotox specialist , if i choose to ignore his advice he isnt responsible for any damage that may occur , plus i havent paid the bill yet for him topping it up in the first place, even though i said it would be next week , it seems he doesnt wanna know.all i did was ask if he could come across and check the levels properly and drain any out if neccesary .
zippy656
23-03-2010, 20:38
looks like to need to find yourself another guy to look after you and the T2
extreme-4x4
23-03-2010, 20:39
well looks like he wont be getting paid either then ...
is anyone local from here to pop around so we know what we are up against .................... please
jims-terrano
23-03-2010, 20:45
I'd nip round with Clivvy if ya want but I aint got a clue about auto's. Won't be until the weekend tho as the clock's aint given us lighter evenings yet:doh
Jim
extreme-4x4
23-03-2010, 20:50
i think in view of the situation , its got to be worth sorting something at the weekend if you guys can . even if its just to get the fluids up to the right levels.
it will def save pete getting the run around from everyone
BigBlack
23-03-2010, 20:50
I'm in Halifax, just round the corner. Again though aint a clue about autos... manuals aint much better with!!!
:doh
What would you want checking Extreme???
i really appreciate the offers of help , anytime is good for me , weekend is ok ,to be totally sure im not entirely sure what to check , or do , i guess the first thing is to check the atf levels correctly, both cold and hot ,er.. then perhaps drain some out and clean the filter , maybe even drain it all out and fill it up with new correct stuff , just a warning though , according to the manual it contains 8.5 litres of atf , i suspect that theres a bit more than that in , and i aint got anything to drain it into , im not entirely sure what sort of fluid my mechanic put in either , all i know is its a dark red , and lots of it . the stuff that he drained out was a lot darker and browner , and stunk , this stuff he put in didnt stink like the stuff he drained out and it looked redder ., many thanks , pete
macabethiel
23-03-2010, 21:07
I have driven automastics for over 40 years and I have never experienced any problems with them. They fail extremely rarely and if its typical of Nissan engineering they are usually better than others on the market.
A more common problem with automatics is something called flairing and is best described as slipping between gears this can be caused by simple things such as the wrong type of ATF fluid and overfilling with fluid.
If its a serious auto failure you have very dark ATF instead of bright pink and it smells burnt.
If it has done a high mileage it may never have had a gearbox screen filter and fluid change.
When you check the ATF level when the vehicle is stone cold and on level ground it will often be below the minimum mark this is quite OK.
The level is best checked when the engine is very hot after a 20 mile or so run done with the engine running in Park.
If the oil level is between the marks its OK. If it is over the top line you have too much fluid.
Was the guy on e-bay a trader or has he owned the vehicle for some time ? I would speak to the last owner and try to get som clues from them
arrghh, this is so frustrating. i'm pretty tied up this weekend. i have a meeting with a chap from my Mazda forum on Sunday, but the other half also wants us to crack on shifting some rubbish and cutting some wood for the caravan, I'm not committing myself, but i'll see if i can find some time. again, like so many, i aint got a clue about autos!
in fact IF I do come over Briggie, i'll bring my camera, and ill takes pics of everything in case we dont make much physical progress, then we can at least enlighten a few of the experts...
no rush folks , its not going anywhere lol , seriously any help whenever recieved is good , whenever you can help , its so bluddie frustrating not being able to do it myself . many many thanks for your help and advice allready . kind regards and many thanks pete .
i promise if this gets fixed , i will buy you guys a drink or two at the next meet / rally i attend . :thumb2
Greylensman
23-03-2010, 22:05
Hi - perhaps its worth talking to Ashcroft transmissions ltd ? - Whilst they are huge in the field of Land Rover products - what they don't know about automatic transmissions could probably be written of a postage stamp in marker pen !! - they maybe able to give some advice.
Its got to be work an email and/or phone call.
Best of luck.
Briggie, can you PM me your phone number (use this link) (http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=377).
I know 'someone' who might be able to help, but unfortunately he won't be able to contact you until tomorrow evening, will it be okay if he calls you between 8 - 8:30 tomorrow (Wednesday)?
forgot to tell you , i have to go back to the hosp again tomorrow , but i should be back around lunchtime . i have to borrow our lasses disco !!!!!
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