tyre seal / tyre weld etc.

[(RIP) PLANK]

hello everyone, its nearly christmas :clap

anyway thats got nothing to do with my question i am just getting excited, i am desperate for socks, hankies and aftershave :lol

my query is: has anyone any experience of tyre weld type puncture repair stuff? does it scrap the tyre? does it inflate and fix? etc.

I am not thinking for large 4x4 tyres as we all carry a spare for that, but i tow many different trailers and caravans and you just can't carrry a spare for them all can you? or you would have no rooom for anything else lol

so opinions / suggestions please

[DEE]

hello everyone, its nearly christmas :clap

anyway thats got nothing to do with my question i am just getting excited, i am desperate for socks, hankies and aftershave :lol

my query is: has anyone any experience of tyre weld type puncture repair stuff? does it scrap the tyre? does it inflate and fix? etc.

I am not thinking for large 4x4 tyres as we all carry a spare for that, but i tow many different trailers and caravans and you just can't carrry a spare for them all can you? or you would have no rooom for anything else lol

so opinions / suggestions please

Yes very good stuff i use it quite a lot in my job its called oko fill, good in mower tyres trailer, But do not do what i did, I have a 50s hot rod and with having two different tyre sizes on it i had this brain wave, To stop me getting a puncher fill the tyres with oko :doh Big mistake could not get the wheels balanced so had to remove it, and no the oko i use does not knacker the tyre, Hope this helps

[extreme-4x4]

hello everyone, its nearly christmas :clap

anyway thats got nothing to do with my question i am just getting excited, i am desperate for socks, hankies and aftershave :lol

my query is: has anyone any experience of tyre weld type puncture repair stuff? does it scrap the tyre? does it inflate and fix? etc.

I am not thinking for large 4x4 tyres as we all carry a spare for that, but i tow many different trailers and caravans and you just can't carrry a spare for them all can you? or you would have no rooom for anything else lol

so opinions / suggestions please



id go tyre weld and a plug in compressor little one ... just to get you mobile again

[Deleted account DD]

Its brilliant stuff so long as you dont rely on it as a permanent repair. Thats why its generally a jazzy colour so when you regularly examaine your tyres :augie you'll spot it.

I know a fair few folk (mainly bikers) who swear by it and could tell you stories all day.

I'm also aware of a vehicle fleet that uses it and they run everything from vans to high performance vehicles with it fitted and no problems, completely the opposite in fact.

To avoid balance problems use the correct amount for your tyre size and be patient because when you first put it in it needs to find its own level as it spreads and will feel out of balance for a few miles.

On a personal note I put it in the tyres on my last caravan as a bit of a confidence ting and one benefit I found was that the tyres held their pressure far better. I dont mean anything radical just in the 6 months it was in I never had to pump them up :clap

You can now get the goo that washes out with plain water (not all types used to) so it'll clean out and the tyre can be repaired as if it wasnt there.

You cannot use it with powder balancing if you have that fitted, for obvious reasons, you'd just end up with a useless sludge sloshing around in the tyre :thumb2

Hope that helps.

I'm not any kind of expert but on a n other forum a very anal tyre fitter had a downer on the stuff and the more I researched the better it looked and his anti argument fell at every hurdle. Thats other than DONT treat it as permanent repair, its a get you home save the tyre deflating at an inconvenient point measure.

:thumb2

[Deleted account DD]

id go tyre weld and a plug in compressor little one ... just to get you mobile again

Now then ;) Problem with that stuff as I found out years ago on an expensive tyre (remember when 185/60x14's were high tech high performance :lol:lol) was that you often (or is it usually?) cant repair the tyre afterwards. :thumb2

[(RIP) PLANK]

i wasn't thinking of stuff you pour in and leave in, as that wouldn't solve the problem, to do that it would have to be my own trailer / caravan and then i would have a spare wheel!

I was thinking of somehting i could carry and use is neccesary, it seems tyre weld may be the answer.

something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2X-TYRE-WELD-TYRE-SEAL-400ML-EMERGENCY-REPAIR-GM321HT_W0QQitemZ280430535077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_3?hash=item414af661a5

so does in ruin the tyre then? or can it be fixed again properly?

I don't fancy forking out for scrapped tyres

funy you should talk of tyre sizes that used to be exspensive, some of them are again for example 175r 13 8 ply tyres and 6 ply tyres fit many trailers but also used to be standard fit on many small vans, and of course mini 10 inch tyres, they are like hens teeth now! unless you are prepared to pay top wack and i am too mean LOL

[lacroupade]

Theres a lot of talk about this over on the Zed forum, as they came equipped with RFTs when new, and while they are great in theory, the Bridgestones they put on are hard as feck and don't do a lot for the already hard ride.

A lot of people therefore put non-RFTs on, even on the //M, and since theres no room for a spare in these love machines, a can of Tyre-Weld in the boot is de rigeur.

Experience has been mixed, ranging from people with no problems, to folk who've had tyres scrapped because the fitters say they can't clean them (sometimes credible, sometimes not), through to a couple of blokes who had alloy rims permanently damaged by whatever crud it is gets squirted in.

And on that forum its relevant; I've just bought a set of 18"' 8.5J five-spoke BMW alloys that need to take 255x35xR18 91Y tyres - in RFT form they would be close to £200 a corner for the right quality tyres....non-RFTs (and they highly recommend Falken 452s surprisingly) come in around half that, so even if a tyre does get trashed, you're still in pocket.

Problem with the RFTs is that, while you can run 50-100 miles completely deflated in safety, the likely damage to the sidewall from doing so often means they are skipped anyway. So while they certainly 'get you home' its often at a price!

Also heard plenty of other stories from people who say they've tyre-welded a punctured wheel and subsequently run it into the ground with no problems.....

So its where I'm going with the old Zed.:thumbs:thumbs

PS - interested to hear what the water-soluble stuff Dave refers to is??? Sounds like a good compromise....

[(RIP) PLANK]

thanks for the input so far!

[davemud]

Hi ya Plank

here is the stuff i have been supplying for a number of years. http://www.ultraseal.biz/home1.htm

Never had any complaints as yet? but have had many thanks?

Best time to install the stuff is on a new tyre, as your get the best value for money.
trouble is you will never no if you get a puncture as the tyre reseals itself up to 6mm hole
but it wont protect the side wall
yes you can balance the tyre afterwards just have to follow the instructions
have done a number Nissan 4x4 owners cars and caravans as well as ambulances and funeral cars in the past
I have it in 25lt drums and pump in the correct amount according to tyre size

[(RIP) PLANK]

Hi ya Plank

here is the stuff i have been supplying for a number of years. http://www.ultraseal.biz/home1.htm

Never had any complaints as yet? but have had many thanks?

Best time to install the stuff is on a new tyre, as your get the best value for money.
trouble is you will never no if you get a puncture as the tyre reseals itself up to 6mm hole
but it wont protect the side wall
yes you can balance the tyre afterwards just have to follow the instructions
have done a number Nissan 4x4 owners cars and caravans as well as ambulances and funeral cars in the past
I have it in 25lt drums and pump in the correct amount according to tyre size

cheers but it wouldn't work for me as i move lots of trailer that are for sale etc. so i dont have access to them to pre install this stuff and it would cost a fortune, i just need a simple quick fix at he side of the road, having said that i might try this for my horse box and stock trailer, as it would save stressing the animals with a long wait while i swapped the wheels.

[lacroupade]

I understand Plank that with Tyreweld, you simply squirt it into the valve when you have a puncture and then drive it for a few miles, which apparently inflates the tyre further, then top it p with air as soon as you can, but allegedly it almost does the job for you....the portable air pump (£25-£35) is just a backup.

[extreme-4x4]

I understand Plank that with Tyreweld, you simply squirt it into the valve when you have a puncture and then drive it for a few miles, which apparently inflates the tyre further, then top it p with air as soon as you can, but allegedly it almost does the job for you....the portable air pump (£25-£35) is just a backup.



and who's idea was that ?

grandad

[lacroupade]

and who's idea was that ?

grandad

what the pump? Noah's probably - how else you gonna inflate a flat tyre?

In fact there are cars that come as standard with RFTs, a tin of tyre-weld type stuff AND a pump as OEM equipment.

[(RIP) PLANK]

calm down ladies :lol

I think you will find it was my idea, well i started the thread so i'm claiming it anyway :thumb2

I have a couple of the little compressor things hanging around as they are good for trailer tyres, I even made an extension lead so it wil reach back from the car, so it looks like getting the comma sealer i posted a link too above, hopefully i wont ever need it, but it makes you paranoid when you dont have a spare doesn't it?

did you know that a standard AA or RAC policy wont come out to a flat tyre on a trailer or caravan! you need extra cover for that!

[CaptLimey]

Hi Plank

Re caravans - you may know that Hobby caravans no longer supply spare wheels with their new units, they include a 12 volt compressor and a bottle of the tyre sealant as described.

I've gone down the 'belt and braces' road and have both spare and compressor/sealant for my 'van. Don't fancy crouching too long beside a flat tyre on a European autoroute with Gerry whizzing past at 160 kph+ on way to throw his towel on a beach lounger in Marbella!

Rgds CL

[(RIP) PLANK]

Hi Plank

Re caravans - you may know that Hobby caravans no longer supply spare wheels with their new units, they include a 12 volt compressor and a bottle of the tyre sealant as described.

I've gone down the 'belt and braces' road and have both spare and compressor/sealant for my 'van. Don't fancy crouching too long beside a flat tyre on a European autoroute with Gerry whizzing past at 160 kph+ on way to throw his towel on a beach lounger in Marbella!

Rgds CL

a good point i'm going to go for the sealer, as even if i do use it on a trailer if it is only once in a blue moon what's the harm? and i have access to a tyre fitting machine and balancing etc so can swap tyres and do punctures myself so i will find out if it scraps the tyre or not.

Thanks for the advice everyone!

I may try some of the stuff dave mud recomends for my own trailers though.

[Deleted account DD]

I may try some of the stuff dave mud recomends for my own trailers though.

which does the same job as this stuff that I was banging on about http://www.ride-on-uk.com/?gclid=CLX0jNSX2J4CFVBd4wodlxlqqg

However the reason I've reposted on this is that this seller http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/ride-on-tps__W0QQ_armrsZ1 on ebay keeps doing two for one offers, Keep an eye on him. Essentially I ended up buying 8 x 16 oz bottles from him for £24. Thars covered my Jeep (with its stupidly big tyres) and a twin axle caravan with a bit left for the push bikes.

I've used ride on before and it works. No balancing problems, allows proper puncture repairs etc etc.....


Go for it :naughty

[Timbo_1975]

hello everyone, its nearly christmas :clap

anyway thats got nothing to do with my question i am just getting excited, i am desperate for socks, hankies and aftershave :lol

my query is: has anyone any experience of tyre weld type puncture repair stuff? does it scrap the tyre? does it inflate and fix? etc.

I am not thinking for large 4x4 tyres as we all carry a spare for that, but i tow many different trailers and caravans and you just can't carrry a spare for them all can you? or you would have no rooom for anything else lol

so opinions / suggestions please

I always keep a bottle here of gloooop- but only use it in tubless LGP tyres on the quad bike and trailer etc. It will fix thorns and the like but no more.

You cannot use it on tubed tyres. Likewise, once you have used it and suffer more than a thorn, then the tyre is scrap as the glue will not stick applying a patch.

Do not use it on high value tyres or ones on the road since the gloop will put the wheel out of balance.

[Deleted account DD]

Likewise, once you have used it and suffer more than a thorn, then the tyre is scrap as the glue will not stick applying a patch.

Sorry Timbo, absolute bollocks. Been there (last week) punctured, spotted, cleaned, patched.

Perhaps on the old crap which wasnt degradable or water soluble but not on the stuff I've linked to.

Do not use it on high value tyres or ones on the road since the gloop will put the wheel out of balance.

Again , bollocks Timbo. I have it in 235/65 x 17's they are worth around £135 per corner which to me is stupidly high value!!!.

No balance issues whatsoever, at all, not a jot :doh

You WILL get problems if you much the stuff I've linked to with powder balance or of course if its out of balance before you put the stuff in!!!!


Timbo, What type of stuff did you use and what circumstances caused you problems ? I presume you have used it ?

[lacroupade]

Thats you out another tenner then you Jeepy thing you! LMAO.:thumbs:thumbs

Got to agree with Daved; the puncture repair thing is a bit of a myth, even with Tyre-Weld....a lot of tyre depots are too lazy to clean the tyre but its perfectly feasible most of the time to do so and effect a good repair. Usually they want you to buy a new tyre as they make more money.

My only worry would be first hand evidence that Tyre Weld at any rate (not the water-based stuff I suspect) can cause alloy wheel damage/corrosion if it leaks out thats impossible to remove.

[Deleted account DD]

Thats you out another tenner then you Jeepy thing you! LMAO.:thumbs:thumbs




The jeep forum is technicaly good but not the liveliest of places, all I've got ot do now is persuade you lot youre on the wrong brand :augie :naughty

[lacroupade]

The jeep forum is technicaly good but not the liveliest of places, all I've got ot do now is persuade you lot youre on the wrong brand :augie :naughty

admit it, you broke down didn't you..... :augie:D

[Deleted account DD]

admit it, you broke down didn't you..... :augie:D


Not just yet :augie I'm still delighted with the machine. I reckon one (or more) of the glow plugs is screwed but other than that running well. Just done a 100mile tow with it and it was a pleasure.

Its got a while with me yet:lol

[Timbo_1975]

Sorry Timbo, absolute bollocks. Been there (last week) punctured, spotted, cleaned, patched.

Perhaps on the old crap which wasnt degradable or water soluble but not on the stuff I've linked to.



Again , bollocks Timbo. I have it in 235/65 x 17's they are worth around £135 per corner which to me is stupidly high value!!!.

No balance issues whatsoever, at all, not a jot :doh

You WILL get problems if you much the stuff I've linked to with powder balance or of course if its out of balance before you put the stuff in!!!!


Timbo, What type of stuff did you use and what circumstances caused you problems ? I presume you have used it ?

I've only ever used the OKO Linseal stuff, which seems to have bits of rubber and something else in greenish suspension of water and linseed oil.

I've tried acouple of times to vulcanise a patch onto a tyre that's had this gloop in it, and failed. Presumably this is the linseed oil soaking into the rubber.

When I say high value, something over ~£50 i.e. car tyres and the like.

Just my 2p.

[Deleted account DD]

Stop using the old style crap and you'll be impressed, its very useful stuff and does what it says on the tin :thumb2

Wheel Balance: Fastest ive ever been in a car with that stuff in was a calibrated ahhheeemm 140 ish and there were no more rattles and squeaks than normal, certainly no excessive wheel vibration :naughty

Punctures: Mine fixed fine last week.

Lot of internet myths about this stuff :thumb2

[lacroupade]

Stop using the old style crap and you'll be impressed, its very useful stuff and does what it says on the tin :thumb2

Wheel Balance: Fastest ive ever been in a car with that stuff in was a calibrated ahhheeemm 140 ish and there were no more rattles and squeaks than normal, certainly no excessive wheel vibration :naughty

Punctures: Mine fixed fine last week.

Lot of internet myths about this stuff :thumb2

True - widely and happily used on the Z4 forum when runflats are ditched in favour of normal tyres.

[Deleted account DD]

duplicate post ..... sorry

[Deleted account DD]

True - widely and happily used on the Z4 forum when runflats are ditched in favour of normal tyres.

I dont know what theyve been discussing do you mean they like the "gel" or "goo" ?

Theres lots of evidence of high speed driving with it in and no wobble generated by it :naughty

ps that includes bikes and the lads are unfortunate enough to be on BMWs at the moment. They just dont see the funny side any more of all the BMW jokes :D

[lacroupade]

I dont know what theyve been discussing do you mean they like the "gel" or "goo" ?

Theres lots of evidence of high speed driving with it in and no wobble generated by it :naughty

ps that includes bikes and the lads are unfortunate enough to be on BMWs at the moment. They just dont see the funny side any more of all the BMW jokes :D

LOL they get no sympathy from me as I too am on the butt end!

Mainly Tyre Weld.....theres also a BMW kit which includes a small compressor...not sure what thats got in it.

[(RIP) PLANK]

well, more interesting stuff, cheers for the input particularly daved, i know how he loves a good deabte :thumbs

a bit off topic but, last week i fitted new tyres to our livestock trailer, it took me a while to find some at the right price 8 ply 13 inch and they used to be so common, anyway t is an old Ifor williams, and the holes in the centre of the wheels are so big we couldnt mount them to balance them anyway!

So i cant see the gloop being an issue there + when towing with a commercial vehicl. with a gross weigh in excess of 2 tonnes on national speed limit roads (and a 4x4 pick up is a commercial) we are limited to 50 mph anyway, so high speeds again not an issue.

so i am still considering giving it a go, but at the moment i am alos considering new tyres for the truck :naughty so maybe i will spend the money on them instead ;)

as i said off topic but sort of relavant? if not just tell me to shut up :doh

[Paul]

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