Tiror hand winch

[iandouglas]

HI.
Had a bit of a find the other day a 32cwt /1500kg Tifor hand winch came into the recycle shed.
Well I had to recycle it didnt I.
just need to make a new handle as I couldnt find the original.
spent half an hour looking for it.
And thanks to jonnathan m there is a how to use it .

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[lacroupade]

HI.
Had a bit of a find the other day a 32cwt Tifor hand winch came into the recycle shed.
Well I had to recycle it didnt I.
just need to make a new handle as I couldnt find the original.
spent half an hour looking for it.
And thanks to jonnathan m there is a how to use it .
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http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HT...ry_Tirfor1.htm (http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Recovery_Tirfor1.htm)

Useful link Ian....I am looking at these things as I think they are a lot less hassle than the electric kind and much more versatile..

[Toolbox]

Bit of bugger carrying those trees around with you though Ian:naughty

[iandouglas]

Hi TOOLBOX I NEARLY CHOKED "LOL"
THESE THINGS LOOK TO BE A HANDY BIT OF KIT AS LONG AS YOU REMEMBER TO BRING A TREE WITH YOU .LOL.
I DONT KNOW IF THEY WILL WORK WITH A PLOUGH ,BUT I SHOULD THINK THEY WOULD.
THEY HAVE 3 SHEAR PINS AS A SAFTY DEVICE BUILT IN .
if you try to overload it they shear .two sets of spares are carried in the handle.

[extreme-4x4]

Hi TOOLBOX I NEARLY CHOKED "LOL"
THESE THINGS LOOK TO BE A HANDY BIT OF KIT AS LONG AS YOU REMEMBER TO BRING A TREE WITH YOU .LOL.
I DONT KNOW IF THEY WILL WORK WITH A PLOUGH ,BUT I SHOULD THINK THEY WOULD.
THEY HAVE 3 SHEAR PINS AS A SAFTY DEVICE BUILT IN .
if you try to overload it they shear .two sets of spares are carried in the handle.


so no handle and no spares then.... still a bargain though

[lacroupade]

so no handle and no spares then.... still a bargain though

but they don't break down, they are never at the wrong end of the vehicle and you don't have to wire them in....that works for me..!

[iandouglas]

sorry guys the manual refers to the short pulling handle on the machine as the HANDLE . so YES I DO HAVE THE PINS.:clap
and a new handle just needs to be cut to length .
the original is teliscopic. so must guess what length of tube to use.
then fabricate a washer type of thing on the end that slips past a pin
due to a slot in said washer then you rotate handle so it cannot slip and smack you one when you arnt looking.

[JonathanM]

Ian, scaffold pipe makes a great handle, I used some foam lagging as a grip.

Remember they need specific Tirfor cable, not just bog standard winch cable, becuase the "clamps" in the winch would crush bog standard cable and weaken it.

While they do need some trees to be handy a lot of the time, the fact they are not mounted means they have 360 degree pulling capability, something a front mounted winch doesn't have unless you use lots of snatch blocks!

[iandouglas]

hi jonnathan m. thanks for the posted link YOU put up.
as you say must be used with proper cable ,fortunatly it came with one wrapped on its own keeper drum i have not unwound it yet but it looks in very good condition.
the whole lot came in a big wooden chest along with shackles and strops .so has been stored well .
i recon the handle would have been with it as well but fell out and was pushed into the stock pile .
have you still got yours?
do you know how long the handle should be extended?
rgds.iandouglas

[(RIP) PLANK]

you know those wheel braces yo can buy with telescopic handles? could you fabricate something out of one of those?

I once traced down a video on the net somewhere, an demo of someone recovering a LWB landie with a tirfor it was only the 600 or 800 kilo model and it wirked admirably! they were pulling it in a striaght line on the level though only through soft mud (but it was enough to stop the landy :lol) so a 1500 kilo one should be brilliant!

in fact let me be the first to offer you a tenner for it :thumbs

[iandouglas]

hi plank .
the jack handle idea is a good one not sure if it would be strong /long enough.
£10 THAT MUCH!:lol
Ive seen some videos on u tube of a tirfor in use ,also used them at pit when joining belts so i have some idea of the capabilitys.
also good thing about them instead of a bumper mounted electric winch
less weight so no need for uprated springs ,no insurance problems .
when laid flat doesnt take up much room in the truck.,

[(RIP) PLANK]

hi plank .
the jack handle idea is a good one not sure if it would be strong /long enough.
£10 THAT MUCH!:lol
Ive seen some videos on u tube of a tirfor in use ,also used them at pit when joining belts so i have some idea of the capabilitys.
also good thing about them instead of a bumper mounted electric winch
less weight so no need for uprated springs ,no insurance problems .
when laid flat doesnt take up much room in the truck.,

and easy to take from vehicle to vehicle! so if your out with a mate you can take it with you, and also use it for other stuff, much more versatile all round than a vehicle mounted electric winch! it would be my preference, so I can go to £12 :thumbs its a good offer :lol

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

plank the idea is bid after someone else not your own bid tut tut, so heres my £20. hehe.

[iandouglas]

short vid of tirfor in use .i will let you add your own comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdC0Sxv8TfQ&feature=related

[(RIP) PLANK]

plank the idea is bid after someone else not your own bid tut tut, so heres my £20. hehe.

i may go to £22 but i will wait to see how good the home made replacment handle looks first ;)

[dinky]

Ian that was lucky,bid on 3 of ebay and been beat each time,even bid at ex-army auctions.JD

[TONUP]

short vid of tirfor in use .i will let you add your own comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdC0Sxv8TfQ&feature=related

That video is just brilliant. It is the best laugh I have had at work in a long time...

What impressed me most is the cool, calm & collected way the guy acts when he gets his RR stuck on top of some road works and then gets the assembled and watching cap-heads to help him push it out.

Classic stuff and no mistake... please post more!

Alan

[TONUP]

Wait there is more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgXI6HQsPyw&feature=related

That's the bulldog spirit that got us off the beaches at Dunkirk... Stout Fellow!

He never seems to get stressed out either!

[dinky]

Look at the one HELL HOLE AT TONG whats the point of that just abusing truck .

[iandouglas]

dinky you are right about the hell hole ,what worries me is if those trucks are then driven home .
i hope they give them a very good going over first.
rgds.indouglas

[lacroupade]

I just don't get that; five minutes with a spade to shave a few inches off that centre section and they'd be over it easily.....why wreck your truck trying???:doh

[dinky]

PUT MY BID IN £22.50p:lol:lol

[Terranosaurus]

Wait there is more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgXI6HQsPyw&feature=related

That's the bulldog spirit that got us off the beaches at Dunkirk... Stout Fellow!

He never seems to get stressed out either!

Theres no legal green lanes near Yeadon (Leeds Bradford airport), another idiot giving us all a bad name, nice of him to provide a clear shot of his number plate though.

[extreme-4x4]

see thats the thing that bothers me this bad name bit.... first of all its not any of us,
but how do we know its not privately owned. so they could be playing in there own land

so lets assume we all follow the lets not bend or break the rules and do it the glass or crap way.... just a few facts then? if the good way is the best way.
exactly how many lanes has crag or glass managed to save?
oh and how many have fallen since the start of this goody two shoes way of thinking?

from what ive seen your not winning any wars with this defensive battle plan

its time people adopted the ramblers approach , the best form of defense is attack the ramblers are winning from what ive seen

the time will come when someone says well lads we lost...
but we lost fairly

[Terranosaurus]

see thats the thing that bothers me this bad name bit.... first of all its not any of us,
but how do we know its not privately owned. so they could be playing in there own land

Because I have read through the comments posted below it including those from the poster.

Gatescarth in the Lake district pass is a good example of a lane that has been saved - sure you need a pass now and they only issue 120 a year for 4x4s but thats a lot better than closed all together. In fact the whole Lake District National Park is a good example, there were and still are calls from the usual quarters to have MPVs banned from all unsurfaced routes in the Lakes. Instead the whole network was surveyed and the lanes classified by their suitability etc. this info is now available on their website.

Stanage edge - been calls for years to close it to MPV's - but instead a voluntary 1 way system has been put in place and is helpingto reduce the erosion.

Just near hear I've helped to kept a lane open, that was destroyed by contracters working on a national grid pipeline, by applying presure to the relevant council employee. Likewise a lane on the edge of the dales is about to get a repair because one of the other GLASS reps has been pushing that highways dept.

The list is almost endless tbh, it just doesn't make a good headline so you never hear of it. GLASS and CRAG memebrs are regularly out maintining lanes too, from a bit of hedge pruning to a ful surface repair.

Then theres all the lanes that have been sucessfully upgraded to their rightful status of BOAT and those still pending a decision that were protected from loss of MPV rights by NERC by a timely BOAT application by GLASS/CRAG/TRF members and others of course.


The point about youtube etc is it just hands amunition to the anti's on a plate, as do great big scars in the countryside - or lovely muddy ruts as some might call them.

[extreme-4x4]

well its good to hear, to be honest im impressed,
but why dont the reps/ members of these organizations promote joining up. instead of just saying those stupid twats or something alike.

we had a similar discussion on our team wales thread april
and we did all discuss it on sunday too.


come on educate us , show us its a good thing. dont moan when we mess up show us there is a better way

start a thread on it .id love to learn and im sure you will convert others too

i dont want to spoil this thread , but honest lets debate this glass crag stuff lets see if its got legs

[JonathanM]

hi jonnathan m. thanks for the posted link YOU put up.
as you say must be used with proper cable ,fortunatly it came with one wrapped on its own keeper drum i have not unwound it yet but it looks in very good condition.
the whole lot came in a big wooden chest along with shackles and strops .so has been stored well .
i recon the handle would have been with it as well but fell out and was pushed into the stock pile .
have you still got yours?
do you know how long the handle should be extended?
rgds.iandouglas

I'd suggest you need about a 4 foot length, sadly I don't have my tirfor anymore, and the handle was probably 5 foot long. Someone I spoke to used a handle from a tarmac "tamper" on their tirfor, about a fiver in wickes they said, and they just cut the square end off it.

[iandouglas]

hi jonnathan thanks for reply i had 4 to 5 ft length in mind .
with perhaps a shorter one of say 2ft.6" to make up for the lack of a teliscopic one.
sorry to read your terrano has gone.
how you getting on with the x trail do you go laning with it?
rgds.andouglas

[iandouglas]

hi did anyone notice in the vidoe The plough that was with the tirfor in TONUP s vidoe clip .its about half way through the video .
it looks home made to me and looks strong enough to do the job but noticed its blade is flat ,and the only ones ive seen are shaped.
what do you recon .