Veg Oil

[bigjim]

thats the way to do it ????? i have not given up the track of recycling the stuff :x ths yanks chuck gallons of it away weekly 8O i now know the requirment for recycling :lol: just need to design something :roll: :arrow: will let you all know more when i've hatched a cunning plan????

[jace]

even better to do it at work somewhere save mess at home ,mind you perfect escuse for new garage or shed to apear!

[iandouglas]

HI FELLOW OILERS. :P
Just bought 30 lts of pure veg oil in 15 lt metal drums from tesco
£10.09 p = 67ppl
this is sunflower oil from wensbury the same stuff i keep seeing at side of laybys
what thr truckers around here keep filling there tanks with.
ive run truck on 30% rape seed ok .
re filled with dino diesel .tank almost empty so intend to put 15lts in then fill up at tesco with a 5p discount card and two 5 gallon cans in back.
so savings all round.
rgds.iandouglas

[Jocky]

never seen 15ltr drums in tesco's. My local only does 3ltrs max size and its a big branch

You must like deep fried food in your area or tesco knows what you are all using it for, market forces and all that. :wink:

Still not put anying mine yet, as I'm still worried about damage :cry:

:smile:

[Deleted Member]

I can't say that I've seen those sizes either,may do them in Cosco or Makro,I'm still waiting for the long term effects on the motors!!! but by then i fear the price of veg oil will probable be not that far of the price of a ltr of diesel! That's if the government have anything to do with it!! :?

[Terranosaurus]

I've not seen the 15ltr drum in our local tescos either, I'm told they're available from the tescos who have a big asian/chinese customer base and have a specialist section, perhaps ID can confirm.

With regard to price, if you can claim the VAT back on diesel its almost the same price as veg now - barely worth the bother unless you can get it in bulk.

[jace]

yeagh soon as they cotton on theyll pull mat from under yer feet!

[bigjim]

HI FELLOW OILERS. :P
Just bought 30 lts of pure veg oil in 15 lt metal drums from tesco
£10.09 p = 67ppl
this is sunflower oil from wensbury the same stuff i keep seeing at side of laybys
what thr truckers around here keep filling there tanks with.
ive run truck on 30% rape seed ok .
re filled with dino diesel .tank almost empty so intend to put 15lts in then fill up at tesco with a 5p discount card and two 5 gallon cans in back.
so savings all round.
rgds.iandouglas
cracking price my mrs phoned me at work the other day complaining that the mav was low on fuel and she didnt know if she had enogh to get to Tescos to fill up ( at the pump) i told her to pour in 3 Ltrs of veg oil in to make sure she got there she could not believe how much better the truck ran on veggie oil so half fill with derv and topped up on veggie 9 I dint li9ke to tell her that ive been slipping veggie oil in for about 3 weeks now 8O £107 at the pumps around here .67p for vegie oil :arrow: :?: :?: :?:

[Jocky]

yeagh soon as they cotton on theyll pull mat from under yer feet!

Yes and it'll cost us £10 for fish&chips :twisted: due to the price of the oil

Time to get your local chippy to bring back good old beef dripping (lard)it always tasted better than veg oil :smile:

:smile:

[LouLou]

Asda down this way did the 15 litre drums of corn oil for a while and kept selling out. So 'Asda logic' was to stop selling those an concentrate on the 3l bots :?

Lidl down here now 64p/l for single bots of rape - which is the cheapest.

[jims-terrano]

Morrisons in Huddersfield have 3L bottles of Rapeseed for £1.71

Jim T

Hope it don't give me a big repair bill, will be pouring it in this weekend.

[Terranosaurus]

yeagh soon as they cotton on theyll pull mat from under yer feet!

Yes and it'll cost us £10 for fish&chips :twisted: due to the price of the oil

Time to get your local chippy to bring back good old beef dripping (lard)it always tasted better than veg oil :smile:

:smile:

I wouldn't buy my chips from anywhere that wasn't using dripping anyway, plenty up here still do - just not the same cooked in veg oil.

[(RIP) PLANK]

but just think of your cholesterol levels :lol: :wink: :!:

[bigjim]

but just htink of your cholesterol levels :lol: :wink: :!:Blimy plank when as any of that botherd the likes of you and I :lol:

[(RIP) PLANK]

for me its one of those things i know i ought to think about but just dont get aound too :oops: :lol:

[jace]

on my last medical my colestrol was low nurse was shocked sein as im a fb and working in stressfull enviroment lol

[iandouglas]

hi fellow oilers.
i have just read H.B. post to sheila ,she tells me it was in the isle called WORLD FOODS. its a main store TOP VALLEY nottingham
ONLY ADVICE I CAN GIVE REGARDING VEG MIX IS TO START SLOWLY.
KEEP AN EYE ON COLD WEATHER REPORTS ,REMEMBER YOU ONLY HAVE TO GO AND TOP UP TO WEAKEN MIX THEN RUN 10 MINS AND WEAKER MIX WILL BE IN PUMP AND INJECTORS
TRY TO GET STRAIGHT FUEL IN TANK ONCE EVERY 4 FILL UPS THAT SHOULD WASH EVERY THING OUT ,THEN START AGAIN WHEN NEARLY EMPTY
rgds.iandouglas

[iandouglas]

hi fellow oilers.
saturday my truck was nearly empty so i put 15lts of sunflower oil £10.09p from tesco as above post.
topped up with diesel started a little ruff this morning but have been in peak district most of the day by the time i arrived home had done 96miles truck running as sweet as a nut :P on approx 25% sunflower oil.
to fill up i needed a plastic bottle with the base cut off then no problem.
rgds.iandouglas

[LouLou]

We are now running 25-30% SVO in the Mav as often as we can get cheap veg oil :) Off up to Nottingham tomorrow so may stock up as it seems cheaper in that neck of the woods?

Have not been too fussy what oil as long as it is nice and runny! Sunflower/rape/corn oil.

Just replaced the fuel filter and keeping an eye on the sump oil.

:o

[Jocky]

I've just done 800 miles on BP Ultimate Derv and car ran sweet as a nut, but the price is not real @1.19 per ltr.

Just thought I'd give it ago before it gets the vegetable rubbish so I can look back on how it should run :mrgreen:

I'm going to use Tesco's veg oil which is rapeseed, so time will tell!!!!!! if engine knacks up it will be a Patrol for me :wink:

BTW this thread is getting full of CARP, where are the MODS when U need them :wink: ?????

keep up the good work

BTW this thread is getting full of CARP



Can't see any fish anywhere 8O -rotfl-

where are the MODS when U need them :wink: ?????



-nerd- hard at it -nerd- -moonie- -rotfl-

[(RIP) PLANK]

im still not convinced by the maths!

diesel 110p

veg oil 80p

25% mix 30L diesel £33 10L veg oil £8 saving £5?

oil and filter change £40-50? with decent oil, fuel filter £15, injectors £? pump £?

(please correct me if i am wrong1)

I agree with gego it is getting a bit repetative!

[bigjim]

been running for 5 weeks now on varing strents of tescos veg oil seems to run better than on derv?????? mind u tescos derv is normaly put in :lol:

[KillerPete]

Sorry guys, have been frying to follow this, but as usuall I've slid sidways.

One question........have anybody had any problems running on veggie oil :?: :?: :?: before I start to, I just want to make sure its not going to cost more than I might save.

Cheers

Pete

Normally after running on veg for a while you will find the vehicle is a little quieter, runs a little smoother and is generally better. Why? I dunno, its documented somewhere if you look though.

I'm using about 60% veg now sometimes more with no known problems.

Considering that most of my mileage is off road and in low box in the rough stuff, I'm pleased with the MPG which is about 28MPG (27.3) last check and varies little, maybe 1 MPG or less either way.

Price is going up all the time and is now only about 30p cheaper than fossil fuel. Much more and I don't think I'll bother making the effort for such a low saving.

[Paul]

The way the price of v/oil as gone up round here, I have stoped getting it, as cameraman said, not saving that much & then theres the time going round looking for the cheapest oil, miss the look on peoples faces though when I was putting it in on the carpark. -rotfl-

[Deleted Member]

Somebody said that putting the veg oil in would reduce the emissions?
If I'm right in thinking,the T2 is in band "F" for emissions,which is 186-225 CO2(g/km)!
On my Registration form it has my T2 at 263 G/KM,is this right?? :?
If it is,would using veg oil bring the emissions down to the next band,or am i being to optimistic?? :oops: :lol:
And who checks that the emissions are correct on the paper work so you pay the right road tax,DVLA??
:? :roll:

[jace]

does that push your tax up then navara 3.0td £185 or whatever it is

[LouLou]

Following on from the current cost of veg/SVO Mr Sadbwstd here had an afternoon to kill while in Leicester yesterday (and free gas in the Co. car ;) )

Prices from around that area:-

Costcutter £2.09/3 litres (70p/l)
Spiceland Food (Asian food wholesaler) £10.99/15 litres (73.2p/l)
Sainsbury £2.21/3 litres (73.6p/l)
Asda £2.21/3 litres
Lidl £0.78/litre
Somerfield £2.45/3 litres (81.6p/l)

I ought to get out more? :lol:

Paul

[Jocky]

Somebody said that putting the veg oil in would reduce the emissions?
If I'm right in thinking,the T2 is in band "F" for emissions,which is 186-225 CO2(g/km)!
On my Registration form it has my T2 at 263 G/KM,is this right?? :?
If it is,would using veg oil bring the emissions down to the next band,or am i being to optimistic?? :oops: :lol:
And who checks that the emissions are correct on the paper work so you pay the right road tax,DVLA??
:? :roll:

HMC want tax when you use veg oil. Are you going to tell them your using it as fuel :?: Could be good if you get your tank dipped! If you use genuine biodiesel you pay duty on it.

Its called having your cake and eating it :roll:

Bus company in this area spent thousands converting buses to run on veg oil and when the government hammered them on fuel duty tax it cost them more over the year than running on DERV. Fools and they put fares up to get cost back.
They think its great having stickers on saying green bus, what a laugh aye.

:smile:

[Terranosaurus]

The Government relaxed the duty on alternative fuels a few months back. You are now allowed up to 2500L/year for personal use, without having to register for or pay duty. Just 1 litre over and you should register and pay duty on it all - the recommendation is to keep records (receipts) of all the fuel you use, dino and veg so that if asked to you can show what you've been using.

[Deleted Member]

The Government relaxed the duty on alternative fuels a few months back. You are now allowed up to 2500L/year for personal use, without having to register for or pay duty. Just 1 litre over and you should register and pay duty on it all - the recommendation is to keep records (receipts) of all the fuel you use, dino and veg so that if asked to you can show what you've been using.

Just bet me to it HB...lol :lol:
But will it bring your emissions down and is 263 g/km the emissions of my T2,seems very high!! :?

[(RIP) PLANK]

does that push your tax up then navara 3.0td £185 or whatever it is

Jace, I believe commercials are exempt from the new tax bands thats why navaras are so popular! :wink:

[Terranosaurus]

The Government relaxed the duty on alternative fuels a few months back. You are now allowed up to 2500L/year for personal use, without having to register for or pay duty. Just 1 litre over and you should register and pay duty on it all - the recommendation is to keep records (receipts) of all the fuel you use, dino and veg so that if asked to you can show what you've been using.

Just bet me to it HB...lol :lol:
But will it bring your emissions down and is 263 g/km the emissions of my T2,seems very high!! :?

Can't see how it can really bring your emissions down, what it does do is lower net your carbon footprint cos the veg crop absorbed the CO2 in the first place. CO2 emissions are really only a measure of MPG, X amount of CO2 out means Y amount of fuel in - simple as that, the government just chose to measure it that way cos it fit with their "green taxation scheme".

[jims-terrano]

I bunged 6 litres of the stuff in last night and then topped up to a full tank so I'm guessing roughly 10% ish. You can smell the difference with the exhaust, not that I go around sniffing her exhaust you understand :oops: She seems quieter and a bit smoother or is it just me :roll:, she does seem to run a little hotter though. Still a bit of a sceptic about it though :? but thought I would like to dip my toes in so to speak.
I have to say if you keep some receipts just in case the tax man wants to look. So if you pay for veg oil by cash then who's to say how much you have used, 2,500 or 25,000 litres of the stuff.

Jim T

[jims-terrano]

Following on from the current cost of veg/SVO Mr Sadbwstd here had an afternoon to kill while in Leicester yesterday (and free gas in the Co. car ;) )

Prices from around that area:-

Costcutter £2.09/3 litres (70p/l)
Spiceland Food (Asian food wholesaler) £10.99/15 litres (73.2p/l)
Sainsbury £2.21/3 litres (73.6p/l)
Asda £2.21/3 litres
Lidl £0.78/litre
Somerfield £2.45/3 litres (81.6p/l)

I ought to get out more? :lol:

Paul, that's sad m8 :lol: not much of a saving though is there when you look at like that :roll:

73's Jim T


Paul

[jace]

exactly!

[iandouglas]

HI JT.
PLEASED TO SEE YOU HAVE DIPPED A TOE IN. :P
IF LIKE ME AND CAMERAMAN WE SEEM TO BE GETTING A SLIGHT INCREASE IN MPG .OR IT COULD JUST BE THE THICKER OIL IS HOLDING FLOAT UP BETTER :?
THE REAL SAVING WILL COME WHEN THE WEATHER IMPROVES AND WE CAN INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SVO WE PUT IN .
IF I WERE TO BE GOING TO SAY CORNWALL TOMMORROW I WOULD GO AS HIGH AS 75% (after warm up )WITHOUT ANY WORRIES I KNOW MY OLD TRUCK IS A NAIL SO AM NOT TO BOTHERED ABOUT KILLING IT ,BUT TO BE HONEST I FEEL CONFIDENT IN RUNNING IT ON A HIGH SVO MIX.
ONE THING I DID FIND OUT THOUGH IS THE SUNFLOWER OIL I BOUGHT IN 15LTR DRUMS IS A LOT THINNER THAN THE 3LTR RAPE SEED OIL
I AM AT PRESENT RUNNING AT 25% MIX .(sun flower tesco)
ON START UP I START AS NORMAL AND WHEN OIL LIGHT GOES OUT I PULL HAND THROTTLE OUT A LITTLE AND THEN ENGINE SMOOTHES OUT
BY INCREASING TICK OVER 50 RPM OR SO.
REMEMBER THIS IS ALSO A COLD START DEVICE AND INCREASES FUEL TO AIR MIX.
AS REGARDS SMELL THE SUNFLOWER OIL DOESNT SMELL AS STRONG AS RAPE SEED OIL.
REGARDING EXTRA ENGINE HEAT I HAVE NOT NOTICED ANY DIFFERANCE .
I HAVE NOW DONE CLOSE TO 3,000 MILES ON VARIOUS MIXES OF UP TO APPROX 35% WITH NO PROBLEMS ,OTHER THAN A SLIGHTLY ROUGH TICK OVER UNTIL SHE IS WARM THEN SWEET AS A NUT
DONT FORGET TO PUSH IT BACK IN THOUGH
best regards.iandouglas

[jims-terrano]

Mines not has refined as your's Ian, I aint got the cold start knob. I'm assuming that's because it's a TDi.
Does anyone know what capacity the tanks are on these things?

Jim T

Does anyone know what capacity the tanks are on these things?



http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/nissan/

Gives all Nissan specs, play away :lol:

[(RIP) PLANK]

for any one interested!

Dan has a job on monday to fix a Terrano, 2.7td (not tdi) that has been running on veg oil for some months and has lost power!

If it turns out to be a veg oil related problem and not just the usual minin filter, fuel filter etc. i will post the fndings!

[jims-terrano]

That'll be interesting Plank.

Jim T

[(RIP) PLANK]

i think so, it seems more than a coincidence it has begun to cause problems now the weather is colder, but we dont know any details yet so, I wont start to speculate!

[iandouglas]

TOOLBOX WROTE
Oil dilution can occur, during cold starting, idle or part load, when using veg oil, leading to a rise in oil level on the dipstick. If left unchecked (not changing the oil) this could cause problems with the turbo and bearings etc

I HAVE FOUND THE FOLLOWING .
In his letter the september issue of Transport Engineer Tony Brooks expresses frustration at the difficulty in sourcing information on long term experence with Bio Diesel.It is clear that many potential users may need simular infomation, and i would like to comment from the point of view of a company specialising in Lubricants and lubrication.
first of all , users should excerise care in controlling the quallity of Bio Diesel they use. The term "BioDiesel" discribes product derived from vegetable oil after after a specific chemical prosses often dubbed RME(rapeseed methyl esters) and complying with EN14214.
This used to be at a 100% level,but is more frequently seen at the pump after distalution with conventional diesel fuel at a 5% blend so called (B5)
Large companys use 20% up to 100% biodiesel.At the 5% level it is unlikely that users notice any long term difference compaired with conventional diesel. But a possitive benifit may be a LONGER LIFE FOR FUEL PUMP owing to the addition of this highly lubricious material to fuel.
At 100% biodiesel and strengths approagching this some users of biodiesel and VEGETABLE oil have experenced [GELLING] in the engine oil sump.
The lubricant seems to turn to a greasy consistency, affecting oil recirculation and potentially , resulting in damaging consequences.
One cause of the problem is passage of fuel into the lubricant sump.
POSSIBLY as a result of poor atomisation at the injectors.
At high engine tempretures unsaturated fatty acids in the fuel breaks down. oxidising , cross linking ,increasing viscosity. and at worst resulting in gelatinous deposit suspended in the lubricant.
This is a result in partially burnt fuel passing piston rings, so the more prown to blow by an engine is the more likely it is to experience GELLING.
And since gelling is a result of a chemical change of fuel held at lubricant sump tempreatures. it is catalysed, and accelerated by wear metals.
VEGETABLE based fuel needs to be HOT for this gelling to occur.
It can happen in a warm sump even after vehicle is parked up.
IS it a common occurrence ? NO . And remember it does`nt happen at all at 5%strength(B5) but only at MUCH stronger concentrations.
Uusers should be aware of the possibility nevertheless and carry out oil condition/monitoring if they have concerns.
They should be prepaired to change oils more freqently.
some units will accumulate fuel more rapid than others.
Our own research here at Fuchs lubricants UK has confirmed that some lubricants help to keep the problem at bay.
For instance , biolubricants based on the same miscible vegetable ester chemistry can really help to stableise and dissolve some of these deposits.
by CLIFF LEA
PRODUCTION MANAGER FUCHS LUBRICANTS UK. S/TRENT STAFFS.
:? :? :? :? :? :?
rgds.iandouglas

[jace]

hence forth "toolbox" is to be known as "the oracle of all things nissan" lol

[LouLou]

For instance , biolubricants based on the same miscible vegetable ester chemistry can really help to stableise and dissolve some of these deposits.


Following on from this www.difflock.com are planning to sell a range of engine biolubricants in the very near future ;)

[jims-terrano]

Hey Plank, have you heard owt off ya m8 yet about the Terrano with lack of power :?:

Jim T

[(RIP) PLANK]

it is almost certiainly the pump, but it is going for diagnistic checks as LCUK just to rule out anyhting else! but whether or not it is veg oil related is too early to say.

We do know he has been running it on virtualy neat veg ol for about 18 months though

I will get back to yo ASAP

[LouLou]

3 litre bots of veg in the local CoOp have just jumped another 20p this week! :x

[jace]

i reckon if fuel protests make fuel scarce veg oil will be as dear as diesel!

[iandouglas]

HI
I HAVE STOPPED USING VEG OIL WHILE THIS COLD SPELL IS ON .AM DOWN TO ABOUT 10% NOW
DID RUN FINE ON 50% WHEN GREEN LANING JUST PUT IT IN BEFORE WE LEFT HOME AND TOPED UP AGAIN ON WAY HOME AND HAVE FILLED UP A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH NEAT DIESEL SINCE .
RGDS,IANDOIGLAS

[Baxter]

after sitting here reading for about an hour, let me get this stright

i can walk into aldi buy some veg oil and just tip it stright into my tank in the car park?

no messing?

wont it bollox my fuel pump? Y61 the old 2.8 clackly engine not the posh 3L one :lol:

[Deleted Member]

As far as i'm aware this is the case!!! i think the runnier the oil the better,somebody who is trying it out will come along and advise you better!!
Going to wait till the summer to try it in mine...! :lol:

[jace]

if u wanted 100% veg youd need to pre heat to make it runnier hence why ian and few others cutting back the percentage to 25% veg to 75% diesel to thin it down enough in cold weather

after sitting here reading for about an hour, let me get this stright

i can walk into aldi buy some veg oil and just tip it stright into my tank in the car park?

no messing?

wont it bollox my fuel pump? Y61 the old 2.8 clackly engine not the posh 3L one :lol:

Presume yours is diesel not 2.8 petrol? Not infering your thick but have to be carfefull thesedays :lol:

Depending on outside temp, depends how much veg oil you can use, I'm using 60% or more for off road, but now its cold only tip straight in when I'm going to use it in same day.

Theres a lot being siad now about it thickening in winter and returning to sump etc. Best not to take chances, and fill up on normall stuff if its gonna be stood for some time.

[jims-terrano]

Not sure about your fuel system but I'm sure someone wii have the answer.

"i can walk into aldi buy some veg oil and just tip it stright into my tank in the car park? " Yes but you don't half get some strange looks :lol:

However Plank is keeping an eye on a T2 that has problems, that has been running on veggie.

Jim T

[Baxter]

Presume yours is diesel not 2.8 petrol? Not infering your thick but have to be carfefull thesedays :lol:

-rotfl-

nar im not that dumb :wink:

seeing as iv got the long range tank, work out to be about 160ltrs alltogether, i might put 120ltr of diesel in and 40ltr of veg oil, would that be ok?

[jace]

dont htink theres much of a saving anymore aswell theyve cotend on

seeing as iv got the long range tank, work out to be about 160ltrs alltogether, i might put 120ltr of diesel in and 40ltr of veg oil, would that be ok?

I'd start with small amounts first say 10 litres and work my way up make sure all is Ok, but should you want to you can tip in 90% and go for it.

Stinks like a chippy though and just about everybody comments. I've been pulled by police and had people pull up alongside and talk to me :lol:

[johnston_evo3]

i had 20l runnin 50/50 just outside house mot's tomorrow she drove grand no distances but, started no bother even with a frost on window BUT...

changed fuel filter and renewed fuel lines and couldnt get the thing to bleed was at it ages dropped 10er of diesel into her and started no bother after a few pumps of the primer and a couple of turns. cant see tank being empty as it hasnt done any miles since the 50/50 stuck in which was just as she ran dry 1 day.

[dinky]

Anyone see top gear last week ran a bmw on rape seed ,and it killed the pump.

[jace]

no they were using oil tuned into bio diesel itd been done wrong by sound of it thats what killed pup to much methanol (used to thin it down?) had been added

[LouLou]

Just back from Puerto Rico and petrol down there is 72-77cents a litre. 35-37 pence GB :x

And all their's is shipped in!

[(RIP) PLANK]

AN UPDATE ON THE VEG OIL TERRANO PROBLEMS

after the customer took it fir tests at LCUK he never brought it back, but he is local (and a regular customer) and has been driving it around as normal, which i beleieve pretty much rules out the pump or anyhting major, it must have ben a DIY fis issue, and i assume the number 1 injector, so sceptic as i am, probably nothing to do with veg oil !

If i learn anything else I will add it :!:

[dsgrnmcm]

Hi team

Does anyone know if a 1997 2.7 tdi has a bosch or lucas fuel pump as it seems quite important when smashing in the veg oil!

[lacroupade]

Hi team

Does anyone know if a 1997 2.7 tdi has a bosch or lucas fuel pump as it seems quite important when smashing in the veg oil!

ought to be Bosch but its written on the pump - huge object at rear right hand side under bonnet to right of fuel filter....if it is, you can run significant ratios of SVO/diesel with no mods.

[dinky]

have a look on maf if bosch or hitachi .bosch should be ok,

[lacroupade]

have a look on maf if bosch or hitachi .bosch should be ok,

not sure about that...wifes T2 has Hitachi MAF and Bosch fuel pump..... pump is the key.

[dsgrnmcm]

Hope so, should get it at the end of the week, then off to lidli and in your face gordon brown!

[poppypiesdad]

lidl is now too expensive for veggie oil best hope is a booker cash and carry or a costco there much cheaper than lidl or aldi

Jamie

[Terranosaurus]

lidl is now too expensive for veggie oil best hope is a booker cash and carry or a costco there much cheaper than lidl or aldi

Jamie

BP, Esso and Shell are cheaper than Aldi and Lidl too

[Deleted account DD]

:lol:lol:lol:lol

Not round here theyre not!!!!!!

Cheapest forecourt diesel 99.9p per litre ( a rare sight too our local is 103.9) , Makro oil 73.3p per litre. Thats a decent saving on a tank full :thumb2

[harlowmaverick]

makro have a special on, 13.15 gbp for 20 litres:D
im now running 50/50 with normal diesel just fine, dont have to worry if there is a coldish snap as well

[twintin]

he he, bunged in the first 3litres of SVO as a test yesterday, mixed with approx £50 worth o diesel. A bit wimpy i know but so far so good, so upping the ratio a bit over the next few weeks and see how it goes :thumbs

[lacroupade]

he he, bunged in the first 3litres of SVO as a test yesterday, mixed with approx £50 worth o diesel. A bit wimpy i know but so far so good, so upping the ratio a bit over the next few weeks and see how it goes :thumbs

Good man! In winter its probably best to not exceed 50/50 and i always let the plugs warm for a few more seconds after the light goes out before starting. :thumbs

[cameron]

Bio diesel is good to use. to brake the soap and fat out they use caustic soda witch in older cars it will wash all the shit out your tank so you will find you will need to change your filters once a month for a bit. and it can brake down the rubber seals in the lines newer cars are fine as the don't use rubber. methanol is also mixed in at 10%. on new chip fat oil you would use 3.5 grams of caustic soda per litre. on used you got to do a ph test to determine how much you need. i run on 100% bio diesel in the cold months i run on 75% bio 25% diesel and have never had a problem.

[twintin]

ok quick update and not sure if its related but the trucks taking a while to start in the morning, don't know if its the veggie or just a sluggish battery or glow plugs? Also i now realise that the truck is a tdi according to the badging so not sure if that makes a difference? Will see what happens when its ready for more go juice

[makeitfit]

I've been on this veg oil bio stuff for about 6/8 weeks or more now and have had no probs. I've usually got it at about 10% diesel . The last couple of mornings were a bit cold but no probs so far:D
69p a litre I'm having it large mate:lol
I've been told there is some winteriser stuff you can put in it but not sure what?
Anybody know?

[lacroupade]

ok quick update and not sure if its related but the trucks taking a while to start in the morning, don't know if its the veggie or just a sluggish battery or glow plugs? Also i now realise that the truck is a tdi according to the badging so not sure if that makes a difference? Will see what happens when its ready for more go juice

twintin how much SVO have you got in? if its no more than that three litres you bunged in earler i can't see it being a problem....but once you get up to higher ratios (say 40% SVO or more) you probably need a pre-heater this weather.

As I said above, just let the glowplug light go out and keep the ignition on a few seconds extra before starting, that should help.

[lacroupade]

Bio diesel is good to use. to brake the soap and fat out they use caustic soda witch in older cars it will wash all the shit out your tank so you will find you will need to change your filters once a month for a bit. and it can brake down the rubber seals in the lines newer cars are fine as the don't use rubber. methanol is also mixed in at 10%. on new chip fat oil you would use 3.5 grams of caustic soda per litre. on used you got to do a ph test to determine how much you need. i run on 100% bio diesel in the cold months i run on 75% bio 25% diesel and have never had a problem.

Useful feedback Cameron - thanks.

To be accurate its not caustic soda that attacks the pipes though. When you mix the caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) with the methanol it converts to sodium methoxide.....and once mixed with veggie oil it reacts completely to help form glycerin (the layer that settles out at the bottom), so in theory, if you've got your proportions right, theres no NaOH left in the mix....bodiesel doesn't like natural rubber and will attack it - its actually that doing the damage as opposed to any of the original chemicals. I suspect thats one of the reasons why you cant buy greater than 30% bio-diesel mix from high street garages...

[Darwin]

I just slam 100% SVO when I can get it at a decent price.

[lacroupade]

I just slam 100% SVO when I can get it at a decent price.

I thoiught its supposed to be lamb?

[Darwin]

I thoiught its supposed to be lamb?

funnier than you think considdering where i work :lol

[lacroupade]

funnier than you think considdering where i work :lol

now WTF have IT and sheep got in common....?????????????:confused::confused::confus ed:

[Darwin]

now WTF have IT and sheep got in common....?????????????:confused::confused::confus ed:

www.rwmfoodgroup.com

[lacroupade]

Ah goddit.....was forgetting the West Country connection as well.

All that talk of servers I assumed was IT, not devil worship.....

So you're a satanic, necrophiliac sheep shagger then?

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