Soon to be new owner of a 1997 terrano swb 2.7tdi se! with gaffa tape on wing mirrior

[dsgrnmcm]

Hi team!

In 4 weeks time i wil be the proud owner of my girlfriends uncles p reg blue swb terrano! its all standard with side steps and a cracked drivers wing mirrior! i have a few question though, and hopefuly you guys can help me out!

so here goes:

1. Is there anyone from the north devon area? as i live in bideford.

2. Are the 2.7 tdi engines gear driven as opposed to belt or chain?

3. What sort of MPG can i expect from the beast?

4. How do i remove the side steps, in order to increase ground clearance?

5. If i replace the air filter with a K&N cone how will it affect fording, is the nissan one sealed?

6. Her uncle says every year he has to get the front bearings re-tightened and the rears are sealed? anyone else have this?

7. Does any one have a mong proof guide ti putting in spot lights and a roof rack?

Many thanks dan!

(soon to be dan the nissan man)

[zippy656]

Hi team!

In 4 weeks time i wil be the proud owner of my girlfriends uncles p reg blue swb terrano! its all standard with side steps and a cracked drivers wing mirrior! i have a few question though, and hopefuly you guys can help me out!

so here goes:

1. Is there anyone from the north devon area? as i live in bideford.I think so

2. Are the 2.7 tdi engines gear driven as opposed to belt or chain?
gear

3. What sort of MPG can i expect from the beast?
28 is about right

4. How do i remove the side steps, in order to increase ground clearance?
unbolt from under car, at front and back, then sell on ebay

5. If i replace the air filter with a K&N cone how will it affect fording, is the nissan one sealed?
some people have done it ( ian jones ) but not wise

6. Her uncle says every year he has to get the front bearings re-tightened and the rears are sealed? anyone else have this?
search forum


7. Does any one have a mong proof guide ti putting in spot lights and a roof rack?
search forum


Many thanks dan!

(soon to be dan the nissan man)


oh Ps HI Dan and welcome

[lacroupade]

Hi team!

In 4 weeks time i wil be the proud owner of my girlfriends uncles p reg blue swb terrano! its all standard with side steps and a cracked drivers wing mirrior! i have a few question though, and hopefuly you guys can help me out!

so here goes:

2. Are the 2.7 tdi engines gear driven as opposed to belt or chain?

4. How do i remove the side steps, in order to increase ground clearance?

5. If i replace the air filter with a K&N cone how will it affect fording, is the nissan one sealed?

6. Her uncle says every year he has to get the front bearings re-tightened and the rears are sealed? anyone else have this?

7. Does any one have a mong proof guide ti putting in spot lights and a roof rack?

Many thanks dan!

(soon to be dan the nissan man)

Dan Dan the Nissan Man!

A couple of add-ons t what Zipp has said:

Timing is direct gear driven, straight off the crank - no belts or chains so you can forget them forever - this engine is also fitted to the London Fairway black cab - 300-400k miles is the norm for those beasties...

Removing side steps-there are three pairs of bolts each side, front, middle and rear. Quite possible on an older truck that some of them will be seized, so my advice would be plenty of advance soaking in WD40 but still be prepared with a small disc-cutter/grinder to cut the tops of one or two. But you're right, makes a lot of difference to ground clearance.

Also, if the front of your truck is more than 1-2 cms lower than the back, then the torsion bars need adjusting upwards - theres a workshop download on the site to help. Also helps with ground clearance. And if you can afford them, you can fit up to 31-inch diameter tyres to give you another bit of height. Wheel fitment is Jap standard (details on here somewhere) so Hilux, Shogun etc; all sorts will fit providing wheel offset is adequate (lots on here about that too)

K&N filter is great, improves performance a bit as well as adding 1-2 mpg. When you fit it, you remove the entire airbox (which takes its air from inside the nearside wing which of course can fill with water just as easily)...so look at the height at which the cone will then sit in the engine bay and ask yourself if you'll ever go that deep - if you do then I suggest you need a snorkel!! Nissan recommended wading depth is 0.5 metres I think but you can go a bit deeper providing you're sensible.

I've had a Mav and two Terranos (two of them from new) and covered more than 250,000 miles in them - never heard that stuff about bearings but it never hurts to carry out preventative maintenance. Rears aren't sealed to my knowledge.

Re spots, unless you have an A-bar (which reduces front ground clearance and approach angle) lots of folk just mount smallish spots (6inch) straight into the front bumper using large washers either side to spread load.

Re roof rack, I'd recommend you just buy a pair of Thule-type roof bars that clamp straight on (side to side). You can get roof rails (front to back) which take a bit of fitting but then you still need to buy the bars to fit them for carrying stuff and unless you want the 'roof rail' look, the Thule roof bars are the most flexible option. Loads on FleaBay.

Join up and we'll give you the secret link to the on-line maintenance manual!

:):):):)

[zippy656]

Um lacroupade you said...

Join up and we'll give you the secret link to the on-line maintenance manual!



but hes in BLUE so he has..


must look under mind then thought side steps were only front and back.

NB cant take mine off as short wife


Zippy

[lacroupade]

Um lacroupade you said...

Join up and we'll give you the secret link to the on-line maintenance manual!



but hes in BLUE so he has..


must look under mind then thought side steps were only front and back.

NB cant take mine off as short wife


Zippy

Sorry DAN - must have been too early for me!

Give him the link then Zip!!!

And yes, six bolts each side. Front and middle pairs bolted to side of chassis, rear pair bolted to side and top....takes ten minutes to remove them if the bolts are not seized.....so next time you go to salisbury plain, whip them off - makes a lot of difference to ground clearance when going over humpy bits! And oil the bolts before refitting to make it easier next time...

[zippy656]

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fwd.pdf

YES BOSS

[lacroupade]

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fwd.pdf

YES BOSS

Zip you KNOW you are i/c the manual link! stop shirking your responsibilities....:rolleyes:

[dsgrnmcm]

Bloody hell thanks guys, loads of info, as far as i know it is all standard, i would like to rais it a little, bull bars do i really need them? spots i would say yes.

with the nissan NATS alarm is it good enough to reduce car insurance or not really?

dan

p.s. i only know of 2 terrano 2 owners in north devon, any one else?

[zippy656]

you can lift the back by putting LWB springs in.. then wind the front up a bit with the tortion bars, ( search ) as i dont understand that bit!

ebay for A bar Bull bar.

lights oh yes, getting some too. well when funds alow that is.


zippy

[lacroupade]

Bloody hell thanks guys, loads of info, as far as i know it is all standard, i would like to rais it a little, bull bars do i really need them? spots i would say yes.

with the nissan NATS alarm is it good enough to reduce car insurance or not really?

dan

p.s. i only know of 2 terrano 2 owners in north devon, any one else?

To be honest Dan, no need to go mad - you'd be surprised what the standard SWB can do. If you want to avoid insurance issues (having to advise mods) I would (i) lose the side steps as their absence makes a big difference to what you can drive over), (2) check your levels (the front should only be 1-2 cms lower than the back, if not, raise it with torsion bars), and (3) think about some bigger tyres. All of those will give you plenty of height and the SWB already has excellent approach/depart angles.

You don't want a bullbar, it loses clearance but that and the bumper are the only way to mount spots sensibly, unless you want to stick them on the roof...

[zippy656]

I'm not to sure about the A Bar thing.. it don't poke down below the front cross member, YES is dose change the approach angles though


but i think bigger wheels / tyres will get that back some what

[lacroupade]

I'm not to sure about the A Bar thing.. it don't poke down below the front cross member, YES is dose change the approach angles though

watched a vid on Youtube just this morning where some chap graunched his shiny new bar on a dirty great boulder, and what with the view some insurance companies take I don't think its worth the trouble TBH....but of course, if you're Mr Bling, oh you ARE Mr Bling!!! :eek:

[zippy656]

well. blink is my middle name...


want chrome lights on the a bar.. too

also a few other lights

[lacroupade]

well. blink is my middle name...


want chrome lights on the a bar.. too

also a few other lights

Think we should change your name to Bigfoot on account of your carbon footprint aspirations! LOL

[zippy656]

Think we should change your name to Bigfoot on account of your carbon footprint aspirations! LOL

big some thing any way

[lacroupade]

big some thing any way

:doh:doh:doh:doh:doh:doh

[zippy656]

Ive got a leaning to big nose and ears..

i could also go to big scares

[zippy656]

sorry dsgrnmcm seam to have gone a little off your thread..



oh well, back to it.
youll love the SWB a lot better to play with than the LWB i have.

[Deleted account DD]

Dan , I fitted a K&N cone, as said before if you want to go deeper than the std filter use a snorkel.

I reckon the K&N actually takes in air higher up than the old plastic tube that feeds into the std item anyway :thumb2

I've got Hiclones & K&N on the induction ide, 91 000 on the clock and return 25 - 30 mpg (carefully measured......I'm tight :lol ) depending on how I've been driving.

If you can get hold of some during the warmer months use vege oil in with the diesel. Veggie oil = 70p per litre, diesel around (or just over) £1 = near as damn it 30% saving in fuel costs.

You'll have fun ;)

[dsgrnmcm]

Dan , I fitted a K&N cone, as said before if you want to go deeper than the std filter use a snorkel.

I reckon the K&N actually takes in air higher up than the old plastic tube that feeds into the std item anyway :thumb2

I've got Hiclones & K&N on the induction ide, 91 000 on the clock and return 25 - 30 mpg (carefully measured......I'm tight :lol ) depending on how I've been driving.

If you can get hold of some during the warmer months use vege oil in with the diesel. Veggie oil = 70p per litre, diesel around (or just over) £1 = near as damn it 30% saving in fuel costs.

You'll have fun ;)

so i can use the bio oil straight away, no conversion just fill it up and away i go? what sort of k&n is it the 57i or is there a terrano specific?

dan

p.s. think i'll give the bling a miss, dont live in brum anymore!:D

[lacroupade]

so i can use the bio oil straight away, no conversion just fill it up and away i go? what sort of k&n is it the 57i or is there a terrano specific?

dan

p.s. think i'll give the bling a miss, dont live in brum anymore!:D

yep its the 57i kit. fitted two on my trucks, pre and post 2000 facelift.

[Deleted account DD]

p.s. think i'll give the bling a miss, dont live in brum anymore!:D

Bling :confused: youve lost me there.

[Deleted account DD]

so i can use the bio oil straight away, no conversion just fill it up and away i go?




Mine is a 2002 2.7tdi and yes thats the case. I understand theres different fuel pumps etc that handle it differently, I did the research but I'm sorry i cant remember specifics :o I suspect yours will be.

Contrary to myth I have never found any evidenced info that veggie oil (svo) itself knackers the engine.

What you do have to be aware of is that its a tad thicker. That means that there may , just may be some problems with some components in some cars that cant handle it.

But effectively using the veggie oil in warmer weather means its no thicker than diesel in the colder weather. I got caught out by a cold snap and had half a tank of veggie in, It thickened up but the only effects were very poor running. I topped up with diesel, it mixed and youre away.

I generally mix the stuff but certainly this time onwards approx 75 to 100 % veggie each fill. No preheaters and no fancy equipment. I may upgrade to a twin tank with preheater (to thin it ) but quite frankly cant be arsed at the mo.

I get the same fuel consumption and including whilst towing the van no reduction in power.

I change oil and filters on all my cars every 6 to 8000 anyway so any problems that people say may occur with fuel filters, water content etc doesnt seem to be a problem.

It smells good too :lol:lol:lol its brilliant in a traffic jam watching the occupants of the car behind you wondering why they can smell deep fat frying :augie

£15 @ Makro for 20 litres at the mo (my last lot was even cheaper) makes it worth buying. I'm looking for someone in our area doing filtered used oil aka waste veg oil (wvo) that seems to clock in around 40 to 50p a litre if you buy about 100 litres of it. The reason for its cheapness seems to be that theres a lot of it about, not many trucks like ours that can run on it neat and only a finite demand for turing it into biodiesel which is its main anticapted use.

On a slight aside I havent tried bio diesel yet. We've had problems at work with fleet vehicles and bio diesel. I understand some problems are alleged to be caused by the chemical content in it reacting with seals etc as opposed to the more inert nature of "normal" diesel. I really dont know though.

Hope that helps without sending you to sleep :D :thumb2

[lacroupade]

Bling :confused: youve lost me there.

there was a mench of shiny bullbars along the meandering way that is an N4x4OC thread....:thumbs

[Deleted account DD]

there was a mench of shiny bullbars along the meandering way that is an N4x4OC thread....:thumbs

ahh with you..........no bull on mine :thumbs

[lacroupade]

Mine is a 2002 2.7tdi and yes thats the case. I understand theres different fuel pumps etc that handle it differently, I did the research but I'm sorry i cant remember specifics :o I suspect yours will be.

Contrary to myth I have never found any evidenced info that veggie oil (svo) itself knackers the engine.

What you do have to be aware of is that its a tad thicker. That means that there may , just may be some problems with some components in some cars that cant handle it.

But effectively using the veggie oil in warmer weather means its no thicker than diesel in the colder weather. I got caught out by a cold snap and had half a tank of veggie in, It thickened up but the only effects were very poor running. I topped up with diesel, it mixed and youre away.

I generally mix the stuff but certainly this time onwards approx 75 to 100 % veggie each fill. No preheaters and no fancy equipment. I may upgrade to a twin tank with preheater (to thin it ) but quite frankly cant be arsed at the mo.

I get the same fuel consumption and including whilst towing the van no reduction in power.

I change oil and filters on all my cars every 6 to 8000 anyway so any problems that people say may occur with fuel filters, water content etc doesnt seem to be a problem.

It smells good too :lol:lol:lol its brilliant in a traffic jam watching the occupants of the car behind you wondering why they can smell deep fat frying :augie

£15 @ Makro for 20 litres at the mo (my last lot was even cheaper) makes it worth buying. I'm looking for someone in our area doing filtered used oil aka waste veg oil (wvo) that seems to clock in around 40 to 50p a litre if you buy about 100 litres of it. The reason for its cheapness seems to be that theres a lot of it about, not many trucks like ours that can run on it neat and only a finite demand for turing it into biodiesel which is its main anticapted use.

On a slight aside I havent tried bio diesel yet. We've had problems at work with fleet vehicles and bio diesel. I understand some problems are alleged to be caused by the chemical content in it reacting with seals etc as opposed to the more inert nature of "normal" diesel. I really dont know though.

Hope that helps without sending you to sleep :D :thumb2

If you get pulled over, especially by the revenue, wouldn't you get nobbled for not having paid duty as its straight off-the-shelf veggie oil (thought duty was payable on anything if being used as vehicle fuel?)?

[Deleted account DD]

If you get pulled over, especially by the revenue, wouldn't you get nobbled for not having paid duty as its straight off-the-shelf veggie oil (thought duty was payable on anything if being used as vehicle fuel?)?

Good point but no :thumbs

You can use 2500 litres pa as a road fuel without paying any duty. @ 25 mpg that gives you in excess of 13 500 miles tax free fuel use :D

When you then consider I do around 16 000 pa in the terrano , I mix with diesel or use pure diesel during the winter months (approx 1/4 of the year), I'm on a roll :clap

On the practical side, HMRC are responsible for enforcement, they dont dip for veggie oil as they do red diesel and have no plans to.

The onus is on them if they desired to check , to prove guilt, not you prove your innocence and to my mind that makes prosecuting bloody difficult to put it mildly and against a private motorist probably not at all cost effective.

Amongst other obstacles for them is the fact the legislation doesn't even state when the calendar for your year of usage starts starts for the private motorist :o

I strongly suspect the people they would go after would be someone like a transport company if they realised (via tip off or smell :lol ) that they were running several large vehicles on veg oil they would go in and prove the fleet at that time was using the stuff, but even then hard work.

Quick disclaimer here.................the views re detection problems are mine and not official, I'm not advocating anyone stuffs the system aand my vehicle is definitely on the legal side of svo/wvo use :D


http://www.smartveg.com/faqs/fuel-duty-vegetable-oil.php

Which gives a link into the confusing world of HMRC :bow

[Deleted account DD]

I'm desperately searching for the document published by HMRC which contains the info I've commented and cant find it but I can assure any doubters I confirmed all of this "straight from the horses mouth" so to speak.

If you come across this doc http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_FAQs&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_PROD1_024771#P10_1054 (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_FAQs&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_PROD1_024771#P10_1054)
at least a big chunk of it has been superseded, particularly the private motorist registering :thumbs

[lacroupade]

Thanks dave - interesting stuff, I'll be googling!

Mind you, in an effort to cultivate a better class of 4x4 colleagues I'm minded to try mine on extra virgin olive oil so in a traffic jam if i'm hungry I can nip out and dip me ciabatta up the exhaust for a little taste sensation! LMAO!

at least it'll get the punters oggling! :lol:lol:lol

[Deleted account DD]

A chap with clarssssss :thumb2

[Deleted account DD]

One last note, good link here to an article which includes a link to a good site that gives campatability lists http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/oct/27/motoring.motoring