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Anyone know the kerbweight of a 2001 LWB T2 2.7TDI?
Also what is the towball max on the T2 and what are your experiences of towing a caravan with it (mine is 1450 fully laden)?
Regards
Lee
hi zippy, i think it's around 1800kg, regards to towing another member asked about this just the other day, you wont beat anyone away from lights though, some members have twin axle vans they tow with t2's, so a good response will be available soon. :thumbs
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zippy656
11-03-2009, 06:54
http://www.whattowcar.com/ here you go zippy, try this site for size..
just put in car info and caravan, and will tell you all you need to know about the matching
I have same weight caravan as you and have no problems at all and towball max is 115kg, the kerb weight of my 2001 Terrano 2.7td se+ is 1885kg (manual) A/T is 1910.
I have (sort of) that weight caravan and a 2001 2.7 TDI LWB and when I was researching what car and caravan to buy it came up with around a 76% match, which is quite healthy I believe.
Towing with the car (bearing in mind it was my first go) didn't seem to phase the T2, with no constant stirring of the gearbox, and the van didn't compress the suspension at all.
This may also be a useful link http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/kerbweights.htm
Hope it helps.
Regards
Alan
MudLifeCrisis
11-03-2009, 11:19
I tow a caravan of 1650 kg with mine at around 87% with no probs at all.
BigBlack
11-03-2009, 13:03
Hi, I thought the max load on the towball of a T2 (Mk3/4) was 150kgs?
If your van is 1450kg's, then you 'should' aim for 7% of this to be your hitch weight, at 101kgs should be no problem for the Terrano.
As for towing with them I've never had any probs at all. I tow a 1300kg, and father-in-law has a twin axel at about 1700kg! Will both go at 60mph down the motorway all day long! With my van on seems to hardly dent the performance I get when solo!!!
(RIP) PLANK
11-03-2009, 13:11
I know this goes against the grain, but I have not found t2's to be the most impresive towing vehicles ever, but they are certainly competent enough, and compared to their towing capacity even a big caravan is well within their limitations.
I think though they are good all rounders and in some ways when you go for a design that makes them pretty good at everything, some things are a bit of a compromise.
Terranosaurus
11-03-2009, 13:19
I find mine carries my tent really well but at 2.2kg its hardly a problem.
MudLifeCrisis
11-03-2009, 14:13
Hi, I thought the max load on the towball of a T2 (Mk3/4) was 150kgs?
If your van is 1450kg's, then you 'should' aim for 7% of this to be your hitch weight, at 101kgs should be no problem for the Terrano.
The 7% guide is from the days when car manufacturers didn't quote noseweight figures
Be careful as the caravan will also have a maximum noseweight which must not be exceeded.
noseweight should be as close too but not over either the car or the caravan limit which ever is the lowest.
Brian
BigBlack
11-03-2009, 17:27
Good point RedMavTaj.
Plank - gotta admit I also tow the same van with a Vaux. Zafira 1.9tdci. Mainly on the summer holidays -costs less in diesel, quieter, more comfortable, and cheaper to run round on day trips etc.
BUT, if deisel was cheaper/when it was I would still pickthe T2 as first choice... King of the Road.... and main recovery vehicle on the campsite!!! ha ha
One other thing I found out when looking for my T2 is that the automatic versions have manufacturers specified tow limit of 2 tonnes while the manual versions are allowed to tow 2.8 tonnes. Not really an issue for caravanner's but an issue for horse trailers (where 1.2 tonne trailer + two 600Kg horses soon adds up).
Thanks for all the replies. I will try the whatowcar site.
I have tried cuddles before but it gave me wrong figures which meant i was towing with a 97% match - which was not the most stable.
My caravan has a hitch limit of 100Kg so i will be going with this limit since you all think the T2 has a towball limit higher than this:thumbs
I dont expect the T2 to pull away like a sports car - just get me there without too many gear changes:rolleyes: I have noticed though that my T2 seems to have a significant turbo lag compared to my other car - i will probably have to choose my gears carefully!
Which brings me onto another thought.... Anyone know the BHP of the 2.7TDI, the torque value and the reve range for max torque????
Cheers
Lee:)
Thomas-the-Terrano2
11-03-2009, 23:21
125bhp, about 205 lb ft.
125bhp, about 205 lb ft.
Cheers:thumb2:clap. Do you know what is the rev range for max torque? I was surfing and a few sites mentioned 2500 but not definite. My other car - 1.9TDI - PD engine has max torque at 1800 revs which may explain why i feel the T2 is a little more hesitant - I am maybe changing up the gears too soon.
Regards
Lee
Thomas-the-Terrano2
12-03-2009, 09:50
think it peaks around 2000, max bhp at 3000, i think i recall.
(RIP) PLANK
12-03-2009, 13:52
I find one of the skills at towing lareg heavy trailers is to not worry about going at any given speed, dont try to go to fast and on steep inclines find where the engine feels comfortable. Dont keep reving until you need to change up, then the engine dies and you have to change down again and the rev to high, change up etc etc.
just find where it sounds and feels comfortable nad if it is a little slower than you expected, just accept it and plod along :thumbs
Thomas-the-Terrano2
12-03-2009, 14:27
good sentiment plank, I find t2 had speeds it happy at in a given gear and revs.
on old lighter van was around 2500 which in 5th gave about 65-66 on speedo
which with speedo error meant a real 60!.
trip out with heavier van generally felt about same, good nose weight no
stabiliser either, though had blade in locker in case reckon have to try without
first otherwise masking bad behaviour...all was ok except on way back had a
genny borrowed sat behind rear axle, mind was windier too but still ok.
found dropped a cog in plenty of time and still dragged over 3 tonne of outfit
up a long m'way bank in 4 th, then once over summit regained 60mph!
BigBlack
12-03-2009, 20:55
I used to ensure on the motorway in 5th I kept the revs to 2500rpm.... used to equal out at around the 62pmh mark. In fact I tend to tow using the rev counter rather then the speedo.
Long uphill drags wait for the revs to drop to about 2000rpm, then change down... changing up normally at about 3000rpm
CaptLimey
12-03-2009, 21:40
Hi All
On the local weighbridge my '96 T2 LWB comes in at 1940 kg, with half a tank and no driver. 80% towed weight is therefore around +/- 1550 kg. With my Hobby 560 at 1600 kg fully loaded, the T2 handles it adequately, although not sparkling performance, it has yet to disappoint me.
Regards CL.
I find one of the skills at towing lareg heavy trailers is to not worry about going at any given speed, dont try to go to fast and on steep inclines find where the engine feels comfortable. Dont keep reving until you need to change up, then the engine dies and you have to change down again and the rev to high, change up etc etc.
just find where it sounds and feels comfortable nad if it is a little slower than you expected, just accept it and plod along :thumbs
I know I've disagreed with you from time to time about towing - but I agree with every word of that!!! :thumb2:thumb2
Cheers
Andrew
Cheers:thumb2:clap. Do you know what is the rev range for max torque? I was surfing and a few sites mentioned 2500 but not definite. My other car - 1.9TDI - PD engine has max torque at 1800 revs which may explain why i feel the T2 is a little more hesitant - I am maybe changing up the gears too soon.
Regards
Lee
Its all here.
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2813
Its all here.
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2813
thanks mate - perfect:thumb2
Lee
Deleted account DD
16-03-2009, 10:00
Anyone know the kerbweight of a 2001 LWB T2 2.7TDI?
Also what is the towball max on the T2 and what are your experiences of towing a caravan with it (mine is 1450 fully laden)?
Regards
Lee#
You shouldn't have any problems at all with that and when your on that boggy cl you'll not have to wait for Farmer Giles and his tractor ;)
Ours clocks in between 1378kg "empty" & 1589kg "full" (although I suspect we dont go to fully laden very often) and whilst it would be silly to say you don't notice its there its certainly a decent match under a variety of towing conditions.
I find myself agreeing with plank, just tow so it feels comfy if that's 60 so be it if its 50 there you go, have fun!
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