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extreme-4x4
29-01-2009, 20:06
ok

i want to make something like this

http://www.screwfix.com/sfd/i/cat/05/p4763205_l.jpg (http://www.screwfix.com/sfd/i/cat/05/p4763205_l.jpg)

so i need a 12 v waterproof strip light

i want to run it off the 12 v socket used for towing my towing electrics

also i want to make a 5- 10 metre extension lead to run rower to it


my question is can i buy a fitting that will take 12v florescent tubes
where ?

also if a want to run a lead off my towing electrics what should i use


basicly when stuck at the weekend it was bloody dark and hard to see around you. id like to light the area around me but not blinding light like torches or car lights.

would be good for fixing the truck in the event of breakdown too

any ideas or advice would be excellent


oh and if you see potential in my idea and want to take it further. i want 10 percent for the idea :thumbs

Terranosaurus
29-01-2009, 20:21
Just buy something like this

http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/cr-2018-1068/tube-light-rechargeable-2x18w/dp/LA03019?_requestid=447435

You'll struggle to find a 12v floursecent light that is water tight and by the time you've finished the above will be cheaper. It comes with a mains and a car charger - would be fairly straighforwrd to rig it to run from towing electrics but easier to just use cig lighter.

extreme-4x4
29-01-2009, 20:36
thats the idea... but its 240v with a 12v battery supply


i want just 12 supply that way i have unlimited power supply from alternator and no batteries to wear out or not work

Terranosaurus
29-01-2009, 21:30
thats the idea... but its 240v with a 12v battery supply


i want just 12 supply that way i have unlimited power supply from alternator and no batteries to wear out or not work

Its also got a 12v DC car charger to keep it topped up.

extreme-4x4
29-01-2009, 23:56
yeah but i dont want battery of any kind, the always wear out or dont charge anymore . i can get strip lights from argos that run off batteries .

then you throw them away cos they break

Terranosaurus
30-01-2009, 00:07
Thats what I'm tryin to say - you don't have to use the battery just keep it plugged in to the car when using - just needs a longer lead making.

extreme-4x4
30-01-2009, 00:20
aaah haa ----- got ya now


i got there in the end, thanks will look into it tomorrow

thanks you have the patience of a saint:thumbs

poppypiesdad
30-01-2009, 10:46
how about this

http://marinestore.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_code=BU100122&Category_code=electric-lighting

extreme-4x4
30-01-2009, 11:23
too bright. and directional .causing shadows etc

you just end up talking to people who turn out to be shadows or you get whipped in the face with a branch cos you cant see, either too dark or too bright.

id like to be able to run an extension lead like a proper wind up extension lead off the towing electrics say 5-10 metres

into this id like
a 2-3 foot 12v strip light for lighting the area
also to plug into the extension lead a small 12v spot light for a work light

i think this would make a good bit of kit for recovery, camping, overland events


another thing you could do is plug an amber beacon into it and have it 5-10 metres away from the rear of your vehicle... for when you break down on a motorway or in a dangerous situation

i think a 12v extension lead running of the back of your truck would be a fantastic bit of kit


anyone else got any ideas ?

poppypiesdad
30-01-2009, 11:30
local caravan shop ??

extreme-4x4
30-01-2009, 11:44
ok so is

a 240v 13a cable good enough to run 12v 13a

what and where would i need to fuse it so as not to wreck the battery if something breaks or gets wet ?

i think could do the plugs from a caravan shop and the light from electrics supplier.

what is the max power i could take from the towing electrics what wires have the best output

or could i run a new feed direct from the battery to a second socket on the back of the truck to run this from... this would be good so i wont need my truck running while im working. or damage my truck electrics.if overloaded

zippy656
30-01-2009, 11:51
i think with 12v, running over 5m to 10m youd het to much power drop, so the light be a lot dimmer or not even work..

might be better off with this ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-24v-20A-AMP-HEAVY-DUTY-BATTERY-CHARGER-CAR-TRUCK_W0QQitemZ180310591867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_R ecovery_Tools?hash=item180310591867&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

?

Terranosaurus
30-01-2009, 11:55
You'd be better using a grey socket rather than a normal black socket and wiring the light to use the attery charging circuit on the plug that way you can plug into anyone who has the second grey socket. Normal black sockets don't have any circuits spare and those in use aren't very high powered.

Mains cable is fine for 12v.

Never seen anything longer than 12" in 12v flourescents though. By the time you've finished you'd be able to but 3 of those lights I've linked to.

Terranosaurus
30-01-2009, 11:57
i think with 12v, running over 5m to 10m youd het to much power drop, so the light be a lot dimmer or not even work..

might be better off with this ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-24v-20A-AMP-HEAVY-DUTY-BATTERY-CHARGER-CAR-TRUCK_W0QQitemZ180310591867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_R ecovery_Tools?hash=item180310591867&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

?


For what? Charging his battery at home?

zippy656
30-01-2009, 12:13
oops, now. didnt mean that at all. I ment like the battry bosters, so the power and lights are together, no need for a long lead in the dark for some one to fall over.


Zippy

wildbri
30-01-2009, 17:36
I have fitted two 12v sockets in the rear of my t2. The are fitted into the cover of the offside brake light cover the one that lifts off to get at the rear of the lamps. One socket is always live and the other comes on with the ignition. I use the ign one for my coolbox and the other for a spotlight on a lead. If I knew how to add photos I could show you or you could pm me and I would email them. I got the ciggy sockets from the scrap yard...
rgards bri

zippy656
30-01-2009, 17:39
Now THAT is good..
how you run the power back there then from where??

wildbri
30-01-2009, 17:41
ooooha I have done it!!! heres another one

wildbri
30-01-2009, 18:01
I have picked up the wiring from the towing circuits and have put inline fuse holders as you can see in pic no2. The ign socket picks up the feed for the caravan battery charging circuit pin 6 on 12s socket and the other from the always on circuit pin 4 on 12s socket. I picked up my supply from the wires on the way to the sockets. If you dont have 12s socket the you would need to run cables from say rear of ciggy lighter and direct from battery, through in line fuses of course....bri

Terranosaurus
30-01-2009, 18:03
Later models, my 2001 Mk3 for instance have a cig lighter 20amp supply in the offside boot area and one in the rear of the centre console too.

Deleted Member S
30-01-2009, 18:03
My SWB has a socket fitted in the rear which TBH I thought all T2's/Mav's had:rolleyes:mine you it has never worked but i'll get around to finding the fault one day:augie

floyd500b
30-01-2009, 22:42
Like it Wildbri - Very neat:thumb2

zippy656
30-01-2009, 22:44
Well ill have to look then Wildbri.. i got both sockets so can do it, I guess thats the side the wires are all at then too..