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ENGLAND
I think this really sums it all up.
After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T!
After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered.
After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa,Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others !
This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen.
Published in a British tabloid newspaper.
IMMIGRANTS. NOT BRITONS, MUST ADAPT.
Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.
However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand..
This idea of London being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and one of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! 'In God We Trust' is our National Motto.
This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If St.George's cross offends you, or you don't like ' A Fair Go', then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.
We didn't force you to come here. If you don't like it GO HOME!!
You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted. Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try,
:thumb2
tezzer
Go onto utube and have a look at what Pat Condell has to say about modern Brittain.:thumbs:thumbs
jims-terrano
23-01-2009, 09:07
I really feel that this is the wrong kind of post for a public forum like this. I have my own views just like everyone else but this is not the place to air them (in my view :lol). Don't know where this text came from but look at what it says "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered." Have the DVLA stopped issuing licenses now? Think this text should be taken with a pinch of salt as the facts do not seem to be quite correct.
We should all think before we post because Bat can be held resposible for the content of this site.
Sorry not getting at you personally Tezzer.
Jim
avillaschi
23-01-2009, 10:07
Don't know where this text came from but look at what it says "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered." Have the DVLA stopped issuing licenses now? Think this text should be taken with a pinch of salt as the facts do not seem to be quite correct.
I was thinking exactly the same.
Best make that a truck-load of salt.
What about "In God we trust" being a national motto? For the USA, for sure, but I didn't think Britain had become the 51st state quite just yet!
it was'nt intended to upset anyone, i posted it because i believe we are loosing our rights everyday, some area's are not permitted to put up christmas lights, fly our flag (where i live), our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants, to tell the truth it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet).
tezzer
jims-terrano
23-01-2009, 16:33
Don't worry it takes a lot more than that to upset me:thumbs
Jim T
Deleted Member D
23-01-2009, 16:47
Sorry wrong thread.
avillaschi
23-01-2009, 16:54
it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet).
I'm not sure I get you. Your council / regulator being imbeciles (prohibiting Xmas lights, prohibiting the St George's cross, etc) is enough to make people believe that whites are superior to non-whites?
I don't see how it follows.
Besides, are you sure you can't put up Xmas lights and fly your flag (Union, England, whatever) where you live? Or is it another one of those urban myths?
our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants
tezzer
Im afraid i have to agree, i have waited some time to get a house and am still waiting to move in to a house.
where as i know of several non national people who have been housed with in weeks, and i personally know of two families who were moved from perfectly good housed to more modern houses, yet i still am waiting, i have lived in this country all my life worked for years, and paid my taxes!!!
I'm not sure I get you. Your council / regulator being imbeciles (prohibiting Xmas lights, prohibiting the St George's cross, etc) is enough to make people believe that whites are superior to non-whites?
I don't see how it follows.
Besides, are you sure you can't put up Xmas lights and fly your flag (Union, England, whatever) where you live? Or is it another one of those urban myths?
it's no myth, i put up an england flag for the euro's (football) i was told to take it down so it did'nt offend other religions, so i put it on my transit so it was a waste of their time, and if you watch the news you would have seen that certain area's of this country was not aloud to erect christmas lights in their villages etc so as not to offend other religions, if they come here they should be the ones to change not the british people, im not a racist, my next door neighbours are black and i get on very well with them, ;
tezzer
Im afraid i have to agree, i have waited some time to get a house and am still waiting to move in to a house.
where as i know of several non national people who have been housed with in weeks, and i personally know of two families who were moved from perfectly good housed to more modern houses, yet i still am waiting, i have lived in this country all my life worked for years, and paid my taxes!!!
exactly wolf, you have no rights at all mate, enoch powell was right all those years ago, i think it was the national front then iirc, ps anyone know where i can get bnp flag?:augie
tezzer
extreme-4x4
24-01-2009, 02:30
well this is all well and good... but what are you going to do about it
a bag fat nothing
because you cant. we all gave up our right to protest with the council tax riots. and this was made worse by the 7/11 bombings
that is you and i have no right to complain or protest in numbers...
even if you found a way to make your voice heard, like the people who organized the petrol blockades some 10 years ago. they had to stop for demonstrating peacefully. the man who started it, went on the telly and said he had to stop cos he had a load of men from the vat and revenue telling him he'd loose everything. they will find something to make him stop.... so he had to
its not a fair society we give and we welcome but are told we cant go into there community ... trouble is.... that was our country once, they were our streets that we grew up in and knew people . now we cant enter and our society cant police it either
you cant fly your flag because its been dirtied by the national front and the bnp... but the fact is its your flag the union flag and or the st geoges cross and you should embrace it ... its your identity. people did die for it... through centuries of wars so that we coud have a free country, freedom of speach, oppinion and choice. and what do we do with it. disguard it like its nothing to be proud of . ashamed of our flag as if its somthing we have done wrong.
if the blitz happened tomorrow we'd all be out there waving the surrender flags
why does accepting people into our society, that we and our ancestors worked so hard to create and fight for, mean we cant have what made our country great its identity our identity its faith our faith . why if we are giving a home shelter and protection mean we have to give it all, we are left with next to nothing
as a kid... when you had sweats and your friends wanted one. you would let them have some ....but you didnt give them the packet and leave yourself with nothing
when your neighbor asks to borrow your garden rake. you dont give it to them...you expect it back cos its yours, you worked hard for that.
you dont tend to lend your car , house wife kids etc cos you want to keep them and you wouldnt exactly want to loose them or have them broken
so why am i expected to give up my freedom of speach and choice .
these are things you should hold on to because they are the important things . the things you cant go without
why is it wrong to expect my kids to do a school christmas nativity play
why is it wrong for me to expect my kids to be taught only christianity in a british school
why is it wrong for me to expect fair housing for native british citizens
why is it wrong to expect to keep my british identity
im told the kids learn other religions at school to give fredom of choice how many non beleivers get a choice. .and chrismas nativity might offend . well it offends me its not allowed
veils offend me, fully covered muslim women offend me. much the same as prince harry in a nazi uniform offends people.
can i go in a bank with a crash helmet on.... no my face would be covered
can i drive a car with a mask on... no cos my vision would be impared and could have a crash
my favorite recently, was the problem with the word paki (prince harry)
how many scotish people are offended by the word scott
jewish - jews
british - brits
australians - ozzies
its an abreviation thats all
and i think if anyone wants to ask a question or post something interesting like the start of this subject . then thasts there choice to ask or have there say.
its there right . and its your right not to read it if you choose not to
i dont think anyone has said anything thats ilegal nor offensive. they just said there thoughts. questioning if you like
and im not racist either.
i give everyone a chance but once you have used or abused that . then you wont be getting any more sweats or borrowing my garden rake
its not that hard, kids have managed since time began giving and sharing
but if you abuse it you aint having no more
extreme-4x4
24-01-2009, 02:34
exactly wolf, you have no rights at all mate, enoch powell was right all those years ago, i think it was the national front then iirc, ps anyone know where i can get bnp flag?:augie
tezzer
yes..... but they are very illegal and you will get into lots of trouble for inciting racial hatred and violence
Damian Strudley
24-03-2009, 21:31
Watching the news tonight in Yorkshire, Muslims are now applying for the rights to hold funeral pires in the open air as they feel that a crematorium is not suitable as it blocks the passage to God, Oh where is Health and Safety when you need it!!!! surely open fires in field burning bodies must be an issue ( just look back at the MAD COW's )
I always wonder wouldn't they then go to our god if its above the UK, surely they should return the bodies abroad if its that much of a worry :bow
it was'nt intended to upset anyone, i posted it because i believe we are loosing our rights everyday, some area's are not permitted to put up christmas lights, fly our flag (where i live), our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants, to tell the truth it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet).
tezzer
not to forget the proposed changes to OFF ROAD TYRES
JonathanM
24-03-2009, 22:17
I saw a car today, St George Cross stickers on it, and a sticker reading "British Jobs for British Workers, time to strike back, what we mean, we say!!!!! BNP!!!"
Very admirable I thought,until I realised that this very patriotic "english" man was driving a rather nice Toyota Hilux Surf.
British jobs for british workers means buying products produced in Britain, you pillock! Added to which the cross of St George has no relationship to 3 out of the 4 countries that make up Great Britain!
supertaff
25-03-2009, 00:11
I hasten to add, that Wales isn't even represented on the flag of the union, the Union Jack.
supertaff
25-03-2009, 00:15
Why did I have to get involved with this ?? .... Wales is not classed by the "Powers that be" as a Kingdom, but merely as a "Principality" and yet if you look at Welsh history, we had Welsh kings, and Wales only became the so called "Principality" when Edward I made his son the first prince of Wales (Purely to subdue the Welsh).
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..
Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
whats your comments on this then??? my opinion-100% right.
tezzer
lacroupade
25-03-2009, 00:20
Why did I have to get involved with this ?? .... Wales is not classed by the "Powers that be" as a Kingdom, but merely as a "Principality" and yet if you look at Welsh history, we had Welsh kings, and Wales only became the so called "Principality" when Edward I made his son the first prince of Wales (Purely to subdue the Welsh).
Thats why the english have to pay to get into South Wales...LOL
makeitfit
25-03-2009, 01:22
Tezzer I'm with you mate, and Extreme :thumbs
OUR rights are being squeezed through the mangle:o
My wife's a teacher and the ruddy nonesense that she has to go through for little johnny foreigner is a right pain in the royal welsh arse:eek:
Bit by bit our liberty is being deminished.
You dont get this going on in France, they say no veils in school, end of.
When we lived in London my kids were in the minority group as they were white english speaking and had both parents !
Going to stop now or I might swear and offend someone:doh
i know what you mean, it's enough to make your blood boil, and schools, your poor wife, i know a school teacher and he is thinking of leaving the school and teaching privately at least he then has a choice. :doh
but australia has the right idea, im waiting for the number 10 web site to be updated, could'nt get on last week, im going to send them the e-mail i posted earlier, :naughty
tezzer
thats an intresting consept, all these gods jockeying for position over parts of world,this is a monty python moment surly?.
I saw one of those police programs the other night and a muslim person asked why the police were stopping and searching muslims , the policeman replied because we dont get jewish suicide bombers.
Fair Point TBH..
lacroupade
25-03-2009, 15:05
I saw one of those police programs the other night and a muslim person asked why the police were stopping and searching muslims , the policeman replied because we dont get jewish suicide bombers.
Fair Point TBH..
crashed and burned....yay! :naughty
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2007/04/female-jewish-suicide-bomber.html
crashed and burned....yay! :naughty
http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2007/04/female-jewish-suicide-bomber.html
Thats an anti jewish website , any more relaible info ?
lacroupade
25-03-2009, 16:48
Thats an anti jewish website , any more relaible info ?
must be on the wrong thread then.....
extreme-4x4
25-03-2009, 17:55
Going to stop now or I might swear and offend someone:doh
dont let me stop ya ........ fill your boots mate
anyway i can still swear ....... bum ........ see!:clap
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