lfteixeira Ford Maverick 2.7 - LWB

[lfteixeira]

Here i'm again.

This time i bought a Ford Maverick 2.7 LWB (1997/12).
In good overall condition.

Changed some parts with the Terrano 2 (wheels, spacers and radio), installed the steering idler brace and there we go...

The first photo after the changes.

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Full album here:
http://saabupgrade.com/FordMaverickAfter/

Sorry, but it's easier for me to share photos this way. :thumb2

[jims-terrano]

What a difference not using salt on the roads make:thumbs

Looks good does that truck.

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A little update.

Out with the side steps, will install a rock sliders soon.

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And removed part of the rear hook, but left the bar to protect the rear bumper.

Comparing with the SWB, this one have a big ass.....

[macabethiel]

Salt is a pain in the UK I guess in Portugal sunshine is a pain when it comes to interior trim.

[Banshee]

And removed part of the rear hook, but left the bar to protect the rear bumper.

Comparing with the SWB, this one have a big ass.....

LWB do have bigger back ends :( SWB all the way for off roading

[lfteixeira]

Salt is a pain in the UK I guess in Portugal sunshine is a pain when it comes to interior trim.

Indeed, the sunshine is great but the paint and the plastics hate it.

[lfteixeira]

LWB do have bigger back ends :( SWB all the way for off roading

I agree, but i can't fit 7 in a SWB Terrano.

I can fit a 9 in a SWB Patrol (160/260), but not confortable seat for the mother-in-law!!! :sly

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Last saturday!

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Can you see me?

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And now?

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A little more grass!!! :lol

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Free again!!!

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And the main objective!

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And more!!!

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Need i say more?

[Sundowners]

It is easy to forget how lucky we are to have access to such good quality and sensible priced food !!!!!!!
We eat out much more in Portugal than we ever did in UK!!!!! Mainly because it is such an enjoyable experience and such good value!!!!! ------ and I am quite fond of red wine!!!!
Nigel

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Finally, new tyres.

31" all around.

4x InsaTurbo Risko and 1 left over new (also 31) for Spare.

Know i need a grinder, can't get full lock on them.

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and another.

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Nice stance...

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And the BIG donut on the back!!!

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Now the Maverick is on a friend place waiting for:
- Grinder in the front
- Lift the front suspension around 1 or 2cm (less then 1 inch).
- Install rock sliders.

New photos when ready! :)

[johnb5177]

Very nice too.....:thumb2

[Banshee]

Stunning and what a fresh red!!!!!

[solarman216]

Nice motor and like the tyres, Rick

[lfteixeira]

Since i pretty much like photos, lot's of them...

This week end i went to the snow!
Here a little snow is motive for joy and hapiness!!! :D

Isn't usual for us.

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There it is, in the middle of the snow!

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The kids do love snow... once a year!

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LED H7 vs Standard H7

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LED lamps instalation.

Both hi/low beam and fog lights. (H7 + HB4)

Not convinced, yet...

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New room light, no more problems!!!

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Well, waiting for the rock sliders...

[jonny]

Nice photos :thumb2

[jims-terrano]

Interesting to hear reports about the LED headlamp bulbs.

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Interesting to hear reports about the LED headlamp bulbs.

In the road not much diference, low range on the high beam.

Offroading, way better then the standard. Better light, brighter.

[lfteixeira]

Hello everybody.

Keeping the journal updated, a little tlc in my Maverick this saturday.

The front was bothering me, as the old supports from the front protection were sticking out of the bumper and could hurt someone.
Out with the bumper, removed the old supports and while at it installed new ones for the new LED lights.

Cleaned everything and painted to old the rust for a few more years.

While painting i also gave a try with the front grille.

Thoughts?


Some photos.

Before:
http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20190216_152710.jpg

After:
http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20190216_163224.jpg

New support.
http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20190216_163233.jpg


THe final work:
http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20190216_181920.jpg

http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20190216_181936.jpg

[lfteixeira]

Hi there.

Does anybody knows the colour code for my Maverick?

[Banshee]

Hi there.

Does anybody knows the colour code for my Maverick?

It will be on the VIN plate in the engine bay, it's under a section called colour/trim etc

Once you've got that I have a comprehensive paint code list here;

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/downloads/workshop/r20paintcodes.pdf

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Thanks.

Paint Code: AP0.

Browsing Ebay to buy paint.

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This week the Red Mav increased 5cm (2").
New rear springs (from jimnybits) and a few turns on the torsion bars.

Now i'm searching for a new set of shocks for the rear.

What is the best option to get the most travel distance between closed and fully opened?
Does anybody know the default sizes?

[lfteixeira]

Well, to help others here are some measures.

News springs on the back and a few turns on the torsion bars.

where - before - after
front - 86cm - 89cm
rear - 87cm - 94cm

I can't lift more in the front, and the rear will drop a bit with some weight in the trunk and a few months on the springs.


About the shocks.

With the standard ones:
Fully compressed: 36cm (disconected from the car)
Compressed: 46cm (connected to the car)
Rest position: 54cm
Fully opened: 60cm

So, i have a travel distance of 14cm.

From what i saw i can increase up to 68cm without messing with hoses and others, gaining 8cm of travel distance.

The new shocks should have 40cm fully compressed and 68cm fully open.

Sorry for using metric measures! :augie

[lfteixeira]

Well.

Keeping my "Captain Log" up to date.

Maverick with 331411 Km (+/- 206000 miles).
This weekend i did the biggest travel ever (for me) on a 4x4, 1661Km (1032 miles).
2,5 tanks of fuel!!! Average of 11L/100 (25.6 mpg).

(On road tyres from a Pajero, 245/70 R16)

Solved a air leak (broken pipe from the compressor to the wastegate) and found that my turbo is going away... white smoke from time to time...

That's it for now!

[Banshee]

Well.

Keeping my "Captain Log" up to date.

Maverick with 331411 Km (+/- 206000 miles).
This weekend i did the biggest travel ever (for me) on a 4x4, 1661Km (1032 miles).
2,5 tanks of fuel!!! Average of 11L/100 (25.6 mpg).

(On road tyres from a Pajero, 245/70 R16)

Solved a air leak (broken pipe from the compressor to the wastegate) and found that my turbo is going away... white smoke from time to time...

That's it for now!

Nice to hear from you with the update :thumb2

Be careful that your turbo doesn't overrun like mine did, it's horrible!!!! I was lucky to save the engine on mine by stalling it.

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Updating the topic.

Reinforced idler arms in both sides and steering bar.
Gone with the standard bushings and replaced with bronze with lubrification.

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191115_142607.jpg

I don't know the name for this, but its where the lower suspension arm bar atached. The hole was starting to get oval instead of round.

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191115_142613.jpg

After the lift springs, some bigger profender shocks.
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191117_110128.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191117_110356.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191117_110404.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191117_110414.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191117_110421.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191117_110428.jpg

Looks nice!!! :clap

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This weekend went with my kids to the first snow this winter here in Portugal.

Nice landscape:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191116_155441.jpg

A little bit of towing:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191116_155913.jpg

Some rest:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191116_160618.jpg

And a deserved refuelling:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191116_134502.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20191116_141514.jpg

It was a nice day!!

[lfteixeira]

Finally, some questions:

1st: I don't have water in the front windshield. I don't hear the motor working. Where to start searching?

2nd: My turbo is starting to go. White smoke. What is the turbo that i have?
The part number is 144117F400, maybe a Garret TB25, but what version?
And the main question, what is the best replacement? Same? Bigger? Any sugestions?

Thanks.

[solarman216]

Washer bottle is under the OSF wing, pump can be changed without taking the wing off but difficult to say the least, what makes you think your turbo is going? to test it you need a pressure gauge teed into the waste gate pipe, Rick

[jims-terrano]

Sorry can’t help you with Turbo but assuming your washer pump is like mine, it’s the same pump for the rear washer too. It’s a uk seller but at least you’ll know which pump. As Rick says you can change it without removing wing but it’s easier to remove front section of plastic wing protector.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Terrano-11-1986-07-1999-Washer-Pump/152945869388?fits=Car+Make%3ANissan%7CModel%3ATerr ano&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item239c48c24c:g:nLoAAOSwheFaqlKt&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qVNYrDXc8RFf82f eG2aOSDPHk8%2FUrQSlgAQ0Ck9%2BSXkzSkkbBluORiiAfrAYV eDpkV0EBal79b%2FVltzIElEdAR4pa0pnjIxU0wG%2BlzqB7b5 EkRP%2FqlKb7cuyGLm%2BHcDHMe00N3%2F95YZ%2B72oIif25t xD8%2F2J0osRfpNzyyRwqJKKFn1q3CHgc6FOWaFFnGawht2ZJK %2FEw6kWNZI5X12uMWHi0U22zJPRcvTkXFbd1gZjfOP9n6a%2F 0uWVJdQ%2BXqCp6WnhXQB9KaOm6lodCCAQbt%2BcN%2Bk0uhNT 2%2BjGEZ3POFfETIeybcUMtx2bSWP0TrvMHSBCxMdYfCysqIqk RLthiRpGb4nU9EzoqjCWcP7me90RLHVfGbfPi7g2cZcnTV7Vsb tBW%2FgfRrYPenaVIDNvOf5G8x7F%2FltYjKY51qmWY6%2F0B% 2BJOQkvC4XHGMtzZqLwoUXOvECDour9U1EKsoiL9aKXba49IKW AbkpTzWReaEUE57KhpGSaBONjnBawhr42%2BWIpwgdFC1q4AB4 joDdBuTJvQDliHgNmfZScfP3z1zrahr6TTa%2FFapXNxPxngvM RtYbtPcn7wDXQPui3hu38JL9RcVYae%2FLggksdoxYPs1k%2Fk CGmhYR%2FWc33IfDAptDzk%2BieP9KCt3eqDmAqEz4hF4NTps6 qdxnlSzTq71OHjjSZjI2OPPykpYHv%2F0MquinbteeaRuGYlvR LXRK%2F1CAj6HpO3vh%2FZKYf6P9w4JlQRYFMwq7z4F2onWFJp ZnDyA73yWcg%3D&checksum=1529458693882d8c97ed093d46329bdf6e2f82f6c 367

[jims-terrano]

Forgot to say your lunch looks gorgeous :thumbs

[lfteixeira]

Washer bottle is under the OSF wing, pump can be changed without taking the wing off but difficult to say the least, what makes you think your turbo is going? to test it you need a pressure gauge teed into the waste gate pipe, Rick


Thanks for the input.
I already removed the plastic below the front wing but only reached what seams to be a level sensor. No hoses attached.

The turbo is making white smoke under acceleration, but more when i lift the throttle.

[lfteixeira]

Sorry can’t help you with Turbo but assuming your washer pump is like mine, it’s the same pump for the rear washer too. It’s a uk seller but at least you’ll know which pump. As Rick says you can change it without removing wing but it’s easier to remove front section of plastic wing protector.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Terrano-11-1986-07-1999-Washer-Pump/152945869388?fits=Car+Make%3ANissan%7CModel%3ATerr ano&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item239c48c24c:g:nLoAAOSwheFaqlKt&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qVNYrDXc8RFf82f eG2aOSDPHk8%2FUrQSlgAQ0Ck9%2BSXkzSkkbBluORiiAfrAYV eDpkV0EBal79b%2FVltzIElEdAR4pa0pnjIxU0wG%2BlzqB7b5 EkRP%2FqlKb7cuyGLm%2BHcDHMe00N3%2F95YZ%2B72oIif25t xD8%2F2J0osRfpNzyyRwqJKKFn1q3CHgc6FOWaFFnGawht2ZJK %2FEw6kWNZI5X12uMWHi0U22zJPRcvTkXFbd1gZjfOP9n6a%2F 0uWVJdQ%2BXqCp6WnhXQB9KaOm6lodCCAQbt%2BcN%2Bk0uhNT 2%2BjGEZ3POFfETIeybcUMtx2bSWP0TrvMHSBCxMdYfCysqIqk RLthiRpGb4nU9EzoqjCWcP7me90RLHVfGbfPi7g2cZcnTV7Vsb tBW%2FgfRrYPenaVIDNvOf5G8x7F%2FltYjKY51qmWY6%2F0B% 2BJOQkvC4XHGMtzZqLwoUXOvECDour9U1EKsoiL9aKXba49IKW AbkpTzWReaEUE57KhpGSaBONjnBawhr42%2BWIpwgdFC1q4AB4 joDdBuTJvQDliHgNmfZScfP3z1zrahr6TTa%2FFapXNxPxngvM RtYbtPcn7wDXQPui3hu38JL9RcVYae%2FLggksdoxYPs1k%2Fk CGmhYR%2FWc33IfDAptDzk%2BieP9KCt3eqDmAqEz4hF4NTps6 qdxnlSzTq71OHjjSZjI2OPPykpYHv%2F0MquinbteeaRuGYlvR LXRK%2F1CAj6HpO3vh%2FZKYf6P9w4JlQRYFMwq7z4F2onWFJp ZnDyA73yWcg%3D&checksum=1529458693882d8c97ed093d46329bdf6e2f82f6c 367

Thanks for the tip about the motor.
No problem beeing in UK, until the brexit, no problems! :thumb2

And yes, the lunch was very good.

[Banshee]

White smoke on these beasts is nearly always fuel starvation from my experience.

I'd be checking, Fuel Filer, Fuel Inlet Banjo Bolt Gauze Filter, Fuel Lines, Swirl Chamber and Pickup Pipes in that order :thumb2

[lfteixeira]

White smoke on these beasts is nearly always fuel starvation from my experience.

I'd be checking, Fuel Filer, Fuel Inlet Banjo Bolt Gauze Filter, Fuel Lines, Swirl Chamber and Pickup Pipes in that order :thumb2

Ok, Fuel Filter was replaced and there is no Fuel Inlet Banjo (small filter on the fuel pump).

I will also check the Fuel Injectors.

[lfteixeira]

Hello.

Hope everyone is ok and not affected by Covid19.
Here, for now, it's all good.

In the last 3 months the Maverick only went offroading 1 time with his friends! :D

We are build a little shuttle company with all the LWB Mavericks... 3 for now.
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200502_154837.jpg

[lfteixeira]

But in the last 3 months i was able to finally replace my washer fluid pump.

Nice job to replace a £10 part...

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200326_145210.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200326_145230.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200326_145218.jpg

[lfteixeira]

Now for the hard part, in wish i need some help.


The engine continues to "sputter" in this sequence:
1. Neutral
2. Full throttle
3. Release throttle
4. Back on the throttle (here he sputter, white smoke and them he goes)

I left the car in a shop that deal with diesel engines (well, now i'm not so sure about their knowledge).

At this moment he checked the engine compression, all cylinders are good, around 23 bar each.
Then he check the injectors, all of them were working around 100 bar.
He said it's low and tune them to work at 125bar (is this right???).

The problem is the lead injector (the one with a wire), he say'd that he doesn't know if he can tune that injector, he doesn't know if can affect the "reads" that the injector sends to the pump.


How can we test to see if the electronic part of the injector is working?


Any info about this subject would be appreciated! :thumb2

Thanks.


Some pictures:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200515_191305.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200515_191036.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200515_190230.jpg

[solarman216]

Around 120 bar is OK it is not the cracking pressure that is most important it is the spray pattern, I do not know of a way to test the No 1 injector but if you have no fault code relating to it then it must be working OK and it can be adjusted same as the others, have you checked the MAF it is the first place I would go, Rick

[lfteixeira]

Around 120 bar is OK it is not the cracking pressure that is most important it is the spray pattern, I do not know of a way to test the No 1 injector but if you have no fault code relating to it then it must be working OK and it can be adjusted same as the others, have you checked the MAF it is the first place I would go, Rick

Thanks for the input.
How can i check the MAF? Any test?

I already cleaned it several months ago, but felt no difference.

If the ECU as any errors should it blink some light? Nothing on in the dashboard.

Thanks.

[solarman216]

Disconnect it and go for a drive, what do you get, Rick

[ogada]

hiii love from india

[lfteixeira]

Disconnect it and go for a drive, what do you get, Rick

Let's me have the car back, at this moment the injectors are out.

[lfteixeira]

Well, i'm back with mixed feelings.

1st The Maverick is back together and it pulls like he never did (and the power box is disconnected for now).
2nd I have lots of errors on the ECU, altough none of the symptons.

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From what i could find with the paper clip, i found 11 errors:

13 - Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor
15 - ???
17 - ???
21 - Ignition Signal
22 - Fuel Pump
28 - Cooling Fan Circuit
34 - Knock Sensor
36 - EGR Control-Back Pressure Transducer
37 - Knock Sensor
42 - Fuel Temperature Sensor
47 - Crankshaft Position Sensor

A video from the errors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjw5mgzZHg

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What was done:
The fuel injection pump was in very bad shape, full of engine oil inside (faulty ring) and with a lot of usage inside.
So, i bought a second hand fuel pump in way better shape then mine but with the electric parts damaged.
We used all the mechanics of the new one and the eletronics from mine.

This was the fuel pump inside:
http://saabupgrade.com/fordmaverick/IMG-20200611-WA0010.jpg

Fuel from the fuel filter (left) and fuel from the pump (right):
http://saabupgrade.com/fordmaverick/20200611_182242.jpg

Some guidance on what can be generating all these errors would be appreciated.

Thanks.

PS: It was very nice to drive the Maverick again after 5 weeks!!! :)

[Banshee]

Well, i'm back with mixed feelings.

1st The Maverick is back together and it pulls like he never did (and the power box is disconnected for now).
2nd I have lots of errors on the ECU, altough none of the symptons.

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From what i could find with the paper clip, i found 11 errors:

13 - Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor
15 - ???
17 - ???
21 - Ignition Signal
22 - Fuel Pump
28 - Cooling Fan Circuit
34 - Knock Sensor
36 - EGR Control-Back Pressure Transducer
37 - Knock Sensor
42 - Fuel Temperature Sensor
47 - Crankshaft Position Sensor

A video from the errors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjw5mgzZHg

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What was done:
The fuel injection pump was in very bad shape, full of engine oil inside (faulty ring) and with a lot of usage inside.
So, i bought a second hand fuel pump in way better shape then mine but with the electric parts damaged.
We used all the mechanics of the new one and the eletronics from mine.

This was the fuel pump inside:
http://saabupgrade.com/fordmaverick/IMG-20200611-WA0010.jpg

Fuel from the fuel filter (left) and fuel from the pump (right):
http://saabupgrade.com/fordmaverick/20200611_182242.jpg

Some guidance on what can be generating all these errors would be appreciated.

Thanks.

PS: It was very nice to drive the Maverick again after 5 weeks!!! :)

Crickey mate!!! That's some list :eek:

I'd clear them all and re-read, some may be historical and no longer even relevant.

Then let us know which ones come back :thumb2

Good graft though mate.

[lfteixeira]

How do I clear them?

Using the paper clip I thought I did that, but they came back...

[Banshee]

How do I clear them?

Using the paper clip I thought I did that, but they came back...

It's a dark art!!! and does differ between ages, Rick documented it somewhere on here, you might have to get friendly with the search. :thumbs

[lfteixeira]

It's a dark art!!! and does differ between ages, Rick documented it somewhere on here, you might have to get friendly with the search. :thumbs

Yesterday i found that workshop guide.
I will give it a try today.

[lfteixeira]

Yesterday i found that workshop guide.
I will give it a try today.

Well, didn't get the chance to put my hand on my Maverick.
I will be collecting it today, the mechanic didn't solve the problem.
He gave up.

I will need your help to resolve this.


Today i will begin with the workshop give to read and reset the errors and do a visual inspection of the engine bay (cables, etc..).

There is any guide with the electric connections on the Maverick? 2.7TDI ?

[solarman216]

There are two pumps on the Terrano, Bosch & Zexell both have different code reading via the paper clip method, one has short and release to get the codes and short and hold to clear, the other has short and hold to get codes, then release to clear, this is why there is a lot of confusion re codes, Rick

[Banshee]

There are two pumps on the Terrano, Bosch & Zexell both have different code reading via the paper clip method, one has short and release to get the codes and short and hold to clear, the other has short and hold to get codes, then release to clear, this is why there is a lot of confusion re codes, Rick

That's what I was waiting for!! :thumb2

[elty001]

I'm almost positive it's the bosch set up that you leave connected to read the codes???
Been a while since I've done it to be honest.

[lfteixeira]

Thanks for the feedback.

My pump is a Zexell.

The problem was lack of knowledge of the mechanic (fuel pump expert) and electrician.
The electrician wanted to take my ECU to repair it, it must be a burned track he say'd...
And the fuel pump guy didn't disconnected the battery while removing the pump...

Using the workshop guide i reset the ECU, turn off ignition, on again and no MIL !!! :clap

Try to read again, it gave my the error 55... man... again... wait the 55 code is: "No faults found"... Happy again!!! :D

Went for a drive and it goes like never did and this with the tuning box disconnected...



This movie is over... let's start the next.

[lfteixeira]

Now i have a rear locker to install.
Bought a ET136 (Eletric locker), let's see if it's as good has the air lockers.


Body roll: since i lift the Maverick (2"), new rear springs (jimnybits) and a tweak in the front torsion bars, i'm afraid of driving above 60mph (100Km/h), any time i have to do a course correction it feel like the Maverick doesn't "respond" in time.

Since i removed the rear anti roll bar, i'm thinking is there anything in the market to make the roll bar disconnectable from inside? Like the Wranglers have?

Thoughts?


A few pictures in a bit.

[lfteixeira]

Now i have a rear locker to install.
Bought a ET136 (Eletric locker), let's see if it's as good has the air lockers.


Body roll: since i lift the Maverick (2"), new rear springs (jimnybits) and a tweak in the front torsion bars, i'm afraid of driving above 60mph (100Km/h), any time i have to do a course correction it feel like the Maverick doesn't "respond" in time.

Since i removed the rear anti roll bar, i'm thinking is there anything in the market to make the roll bar disconnectable from inside? Like the Wranglers have?

Thoughts?


A few pictures in a bit.

Well, no comments, let's move on.

Installed the rear rollbar again and the roll, as expected, improved.
Lost around 1" of wheel travel.

Got to drive it more to fell the differences.



Another topic, poweeeeeeeeeer.

Since the fuel pump was repaired the Maverick now goes like never before, so, i reinstalled the power box... and boy, he pulls very very well.

As usual i can't be happy for too long... so the clutch don't hold that much torque. Example, 5th gear below 2000RPM, press the fun pedal and as soon as it pass the 2000rpm it goes to 3000rpm in a second and stays there until the speed catches up. (like an automatic).

So, recomendations for a chutch? Sames as the original? Upgraded? Customized? Thoughts?

[elty001]

Banshee fitted a 3.0 ltr clutch in his 2.7 with no drama but have read in a few places the the flywheel may need machining depending on wear.
A good quality standard clutch should give you approx 80 - 100k miles :thumb2

[Banshee]

Now i have a rear locker to install.
Bought a ET136 (Eletric locker), let's see if it's as good has the air lockers.


Body roll: since i lift the Maverick (2"), new rear springs (jimnybits) and a tweak in the front torsion bars, i'm afraid of driving above 60mph (100Km/h), any time i have to do a course correction it feel like the Maverick doesn't "respond" in time.

Since i removed the rear anti roll bar, i'm thinking is there anything in the market to make the roll bar disconnectable from inside? Like the Wranglers have?

Thoughts?


A few pictures in a bit.

Electric Rear Locker!?!?!?!? Lets hear some more and see some pictures :naughty

An electrical rear anti roll bar link would be amazing, I'm doing a lot of mileage at the moment in my truck and having driven the 3.0 I've just pulled in the short distance around the estate I live on, it's amazing to feel the difference that a rear ARB offers, doing a lot of distance without out makes you feel seasick :flush:

My Y61 has an electric rear ARB, I might take a look at that and see if a Y61 setup could be modded to fit a Terrano :naughty

[Banshee]

Well, no comments, let's move on.

Installed the rear rollbar again and the roll, as expected, improved.
Lost around 1" of wheel travel.

Got to drive it more to fell the differences.



Another topic, poweeeeeeeeeer.

Since the fuel pump was repaired the Maverick now goes like never before, so, i reinstalled the power box... and boy, he pulls very very well.

As usual i can't be happy for too long... so the clutch don't hold that much torque. Example, 5th gear below 2000RPM, press the fun pedal and as soon as it pass the 2000rpm it goes to 3000rpm in a second and stays there until the speed catches up. (like an automatic).

So, recomendations for a chutch? Sames as the original? Upgraded? Customized? Thoughts?

I fitted a 3.0 Borg & Beck clutch to my 2.7 when it went, I got the inspiration from Makeitfit :bow

If you have a look at my project thread from post #570 onwards there's a fairly in depth run down of how I installed it with plenty of pictures :naughty

As Elty has said, check that flywheel for a runout lip, I was lucky enough not to have one and to be honest I've broke a few Terranos now and not seen any lips on those either so I can imagine you'll be fine :thumb2

[elty001]

Electric Rear Locker!?!?!?!? Lets hear some more and see some pictures :naughty

An electrical rear anti roll bar link would be amazing, I'm doing a lot of mileage at the moment in my truck and having driven the 3.0 I've just pulled in the short distance around the estate I live on, it's amazing to feel the difference that a rear ARB offers, doing a lot of distance without out makes you feel seasick :flush:

My Y61 has an electric rear ARB, I might take a look at that and see if a Y61 setup could be modded to fit a Terrano :naughty

Pity you can't get extended anti roll bar links.
They are available for lifted landrovers.
Might be something out there that would fit:nenau
I reckon it would easy to make some up with a couple of rose joints and threaded rod:thumb2

[lfteixeira]

Electric Rear Locker!?!?!?!? Lets hear some more and see some pictures

My Y61 has an electric rear ARB, I might take a look at that and see if a Y61 setup could be modded to fit a Terrano :naughty

Yes, they call it ET136.
Here a Pajero Sportwagon and a Terrano 2 are running with those e-lockers. Lets see how long will they last. At least they won't have the air leaks on the seals that usually affects the air ones.

I will try to take some pictures of it.

Somebody also told me that about the rear electric arb from the Y61. With some TLC (that I'm not able to do) it can be a solution.

On the clutch subject, a clutch from Exedy is worth it?

[Banshee]

Yes, they call it ET136.
Here a Pajero Sportwagon and a Terrano 2 are running with those e-lockers. Lets see how long will they last. At least they won't have the air leaks on the seals that usually affects the air ones.

I will try to take some pictures of it.

Somebody also told me that about the rear electric arb from the Y61. With some TLC (that I'm not able to do) it can be a solution.

On the clutch subject, a clutch from Exedy is worth it?

I went for a Borg & Beck, never personally used an Exedy so can't comment.

That's good news in regards to the rear ARB from a Y61, when it dries up here I might have a crawl under the patrol and have a look to see what would be involved :naughty

Certainly looking forward to pictures of this E-Locker, I hate the sound of air lockers for the exact reason that you've stated above, I suppose electric can be just as finnicky though :nenau

[lfteixeira]

...when it dries up here I might have a crawl under the patrol and have a look to see what would be involved :naughty

Do you want 38ºC? Want to trade? :lol

Forecast for the next 10 days...

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/capturar.png



Certainly looking forward to pictures of this E-Locker, I hate the sound of air lockers for the exact reason that you've stated above, I suppose electric can be just as finnicky though :nenau

This is mine:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_115816.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_115900.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_120050.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_120258.jpg

I will try to take it out of the box and take more photos.

[Banshee]

Do you want 38ºC? Want to trade? :lol

Forecast for the next 10 days...

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/capturar.png




This is mine:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_115816.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_115900.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_120050.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200617_120258.jpg

I will try to take it out of the box and take more photos.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

:naughty :naughty :naughty

[Banshee]

What brand is the Locker mate if you don't mind me asking? Was trying to do some research but couldn't see a brand name on the box :doh

[lfteixeira]

What brand is the Locker mate if you don't mind me asking? Was trying to do some research but couldn't see a brand name on the box :doh

It's a "white line" brand.
I bought it directly from China.

[Banshee]

It's a "white line" brand.
I bought it directly from China.

Your Google skills must be far superior to mine, I can't find those guys online :doh :nenau

Having looked around at other electric lockers it seems that the Terrano Rear can also be fitted in the Y61 Patrol Front :naughty :naughty

Send us a china link chap :bow :bow

[lfteixeira]

Your Google skills must be far superior to mine, I can't find those guys online :doh :nenau

Having looked around at other electric lockers it seems that the Terrano Rear can also be fitted in the Y61 Patrol Front :naughty :naughty

Send us a china link chap :bow :bow

Only got an email:
chinaairlocker@gmail.com

Already bought 3 lockers from them and they all arrived :thumbs.

These are the specs on mine ET136:
NISSAN H233b, 31 splines, 9 screws.

And that is correct, the front of the Y61 are the same as the rear on the Terrano 2 with the diff H233b.

See:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/arblist.png

[Banshee]

Only got an email:
chinaairlocker@gmail.com

Already bought 3 lockers from them and they all arrived :thumbs.

These are the specs on mine ET136:
NISSAN H233b, 31 splines, 9 screws.

And that is correct, the front of the Y61 are the same as the rear on the Terrano 2 with the diff H233b.

See:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/arblist.png

If I name drop you, do you reckon I'll get some discount :naughty :naughty

[lfteixeira]

If I name drop you, do you reckon I'll get some discount :naughty :naughty

If you want send me our email and i will do the introductions.

[lfteixeira]

Returning to the clutches:
http://static.nissan4u.com/epc_img/14272766345074.png

[Banshee]

Returning to the clutches:
http://static.nissan4u.com/epc_img/14272766345074.png

The exact one I used was the Borg & Beck HK2275, I've had a look on eBay and can't find a link for one now :eek:

https://image.ibb.co/hdoqQF/20161210_122449.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/hdZ8Cv/20161210_122711.jpg

[lfteixeira]

After some research, the 3.0 clutch has a size of 260mm and the 2.7 is 250mm.
Both are 24 teeth.

[Barrbeast]

And that is correct, the front of the Y61 are the same as the rear on the Terrano 2 with the diff H233b.


Told you Banshee ;)

Y61 Trol electric ARB disconnect is 3 wires I think. Presumably one wire connects to the dash light to illuminate it when it's disconnected. Y60 Trols had a cable operated one. My 4.2 must have had it at some point in its life as the handle is still there under the dash (I think you pulled and twisted the handle to lock it "off").

I removed the one off my Y61, all it is is a fancy ARB link that looks similar to a miniature hydraulic ram with an electrically actuator which operates a jaw/pin for locking it (Y60 cable would've been connected straight to the locking pin). The end of the cylinder section is attached to the chassis ARB link mount and the end of the piston section is attached to the ARB. When unlocked the jaw/pin moves out of the piston section and that section is able to move in and out of the cylinder section so in effect removing the ARB.

Neat idea and works well, when it works, but the electric one is known to fail over time and become temperamental at connecting back up again. That's what happened to mine and then I fitted my 2" lift and removed the link and earthed the sensor wire :nenau

[Banshee]

After some research, the 3.0 clutch has a size of 260mm and the 2.7 is 250mm.
Both are 24 teeth.

10mm extra bite :naughty

[Banshee]

Told you Banshee ;)

Y61 Trol electric ARB disconnect is 3 wires I think. Presumably one wire connects to the dash light to illuminate it when it's disconnected. Y60 Trols had a cable operated one. My 4.2 must have had it at some point in its life as the handle is still there under the dash (I think you pulled and twisted the handle to lock it "off").

I removed the one off my Y61, all it is is a fancy ARB link that looks similar to a miniature hydraulic ram with an electrically actuator which operates a jaw/pin for locking it (Y60 cable would've been connected straight to the locking pin). The end of the cylinder section is attached to the chassis ARB link mount and the end of the piston section is attached to the ARB. When unlocked the jaw/pin moves out of the piston section and that section is able to move in and out of the cylinder section so in effect removing the ARB.

Neat idea and works well, when it works, but the electric one is known to fail over time and become temperamental at connecting back up again. That's what happened to mine and then I fitted my 2" lift and removed the link and earthed the sensor wire :nenau

This is why I love you brother :thumbs

[lfteixeira]

Well, after some digging i ended up buying the stock one from Borg&Beck.

Let's see how will she hold! :clap

[Banshee]

Well, after some digging i ended up buying the stock one from Borg&Beck.

Let's see how will she hold! :clap

Good man, I've been happy with mine :cool:

[lfteixeira]

@Banshee, some more photos from the eletric locker.

I gave it some juice, 12V, and it locks... :lol


http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113739.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113806.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113855.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113940.jpg

[Banshee]

@Banshee, some more photos from the eletric locker.

I gave it some juice, 12V, and it locks... :lol


http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113739.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113806.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113855.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200718_113940.jpg

That looks awesome buddy :bow :bow

Glad you've tested it on the bench, not too sure on the quality of the solder used on that earth cable though :eek:

[lfteixeira]

Agreed... a little dodgy to say the least.

[elty001]

If that's the quality of soldering i would be questioning what the rest of it is like.
I for one wouldn't put that anywhere my diff:eek:

[lfteixeira]

If that's the quality of soldering i would be questioning what the rest if it is like.
I for one wouldn't put that anywhere my diff:eek:

Don't be like that!!! :sly

I suspect they are using unsold RD136 cases to make this version of the locker, hense the botch job we see.

Let's think positive. Happy thoughts!

[Fez_uk]

Looks like sealant to me

[lfteixeira]

Looks like sealant to me

In the electric cable yes, it's sealant.

[elty001]

Don't be like that!!! :sly

I suspect they are using unsold RD136 cases to make this version of the locker, hense the botch job we see.

Let's think positive. Happy thoughts!

Just my personal opinion matey.
If you are happy with it then go for it:thumb2

[solarman216]

Looks like sealant to me

Well spotted Fez, I could not relate that pic to "solder" but my resolution is not that good so could not make up my mind, Rick

[lfteixeira]

Need an advice.

I have a friend with a 1992 Nissan Terrano (WD21) with the 2.7TD engine (without intercooler).

The gearbox is allways with problems.

What are the possible alternatives for the gearbox?
A gearbox from a earlier model would fit?

Thanks.

[lfteixeira]

Need an advice.

I have a friend with a 1992 Nissan Terrano (WD21) with the 2.7TD engine (without intercooler).

The gearbox is allways with problems.

What are the possible alternatives for the gearbox?
A gearbox from a earlier model would fit?

Thanks.

Sorted. A gearbox from a 2.7TDi (125bhp) installed.

[lfteixeira]

update.

e-locker > check
clutch > check
diff and gearbox oil > check

testing...
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_133100.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_133025.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_133000.jpg

[lfteixeira]

during the tests i lost all water in the cooling system.
i found one of the previous owner invention in the lower radiator hose...

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_133000.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_133000.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_133000.jpg

reconnected the hose and filled the system again!

I have to buy a new hose, replace and fill the system with antifreeze.

[lfteixeira]

during the tests i lost all water in the cooling system.
i found one of the previous owner invention in the lower radiator hose...

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_145039.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_142010.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20200912_145030.jpg

reconnected the hose and filled the system again!

I have to buy a new hose, replace and fill the system with antifreeze.[/QUOTE]

[elty001]

Looks like the fan has caused that damage to the hose.
Mine is close after doing the body lift but a bit of re positioning gives it clearance.

[lfteixeira]

Looks like the fan has caused that damage to the hose.
Mine is close after doing the body lift but a bit of re positioning gives it clearance.

It wasn't the fan but the air compressor, it's too close to the hose.

http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20200911_130316.jpg
http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20200911_130310.JPG

[lfteixeira]

When the new hose arrive, i will try to cut 1cm (0,5") from the tip, so the curve is closer to the radiador.

[elty001]

It wasn't the fan but the air compressor, it's too close to the hose.

http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20200911_130316.jpg
http://www.saabupgrade.com/ford/20200911_130310.JPG

That is close,mines got a good 20 mm between the pully and hose.

[solarman216]

That is CLOSE, has anything moved? is the rad in the right place? has it been modified in any way? Rick

[lfteixeira]

That is CLOSE, has anything moved? is the rad in the right place? has it been modified in any way? Rick

Not to my knowledge but when the new hose arrives i will check.

It's doesn't seems to be off, even the AC radiator seems to be in the right place.

[lfteixeira]

Not to my knowledge but when the new hose arrives i will check.

It's doesn't seems to be off, even the AC radiator seems to be in the right place.

Well, the AC is in the correct place.
With the new hose is aroun 1,5cm apart (0.6").

[lfteixeira]

Update.

Here, Portugal, we don't have much snow in the winter.
This year was a little bit "better" on that part.

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20201205_105419.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20201205_131117.jpg


In this one i replaced the auxiliary lights, these have DRL function.
But they lack the size, need to find ones bigger.

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210109_143913.jpg

And doing what it should, towing my kids in the sled...

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20201205_115055.jpg


Keep safe.

[lfteixeira]

Also, this weekend, since we have to stay home, time to replace the portable CB for a fixed one.

The kit... :)
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210115_191248.jpg

Antenna support:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210117_153731.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210117_153744.jpg

Radio fitted:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210116_182550.jpg


Microphone support:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210117_185643.jpg


And my console (needs to be replaced, broken in several places):
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210117_185707.jpg



Just missing the final photo installed in the car, but the radio had parts moving inside, so he is going to be replaced.

[lfteixeira]

Well, a little update.

Winch on it's way... :thumbs

Winch plate.
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/IMG-20210409-WA0003.jpg

The mock up before the final instalation:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/IMG-20210409-WA0005.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/IMG-20210409-WA0007.jpg
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/IMG-20210409-WA0008.jpg

And a little new air compressor, with tank:
http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210301_210925.jpg

More news soon...

[Fez_uk]

Tidy little mav that, Miss mine :)

That winch bumper looks well designed too.

[lfteixeira]

Tidy little mav that, Miss mine :)

That winch bumper looks well designed too.

Thanks.

Will update soon.

[lfteixeira]

Well, after a few weeks work (little by little) all the jobs are done.

Such as:
- Install Winch
- Move the control box to the engine bay
- Install a relay for the winch (12V 200A) controlled from inside
- Install front and rear cameras

Like my daughter told me, this Maverick is hold together with zip ties... lot's of them... :)

Some photos.

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_160515.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_160523.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_160529.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175137.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175145.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175153.jpg

[lfteixeira]

Now the inside:

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175315.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175221.jpg

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175240.jpg

[lfteixeira]

Isn't it good looking? :)

Now the rear sits higher then the front, due to the weight from the winch.

Should i increase the height of the front (torsion bars) or reduce the rear (switching springs) ?

http://saabupgrade.com/ford/20210508_175931.jpg

Comments?

[solarman216]

Yes wind the bars up a tad, but is your winch really that heavy? my winch and bumper weighs 100Kg so changed the springs, Rick

[lfteixeira]

Yes wind the bars up a tad, but is your winch really that heavy? my winch and bumper weighs 100Kg so changed the springs, Rick

The winch has synthetic rope, so it should weight around 30Kg plus mounting plate.

Next weekend i will give the bars a little bit more, to see how it seats.