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Tuning boxes available for nissan terrano 2.7tdi £50
zippy656
17-04-2017, 18:07
Www have you told Austin?
He messaged me before just waiting to hear back from him once he got the terrano
terranosaurusdoug
17-04-2017, 19:30
Tuning boxes available for nissan terrano 2.7tdi £50
Any more details?
zippy656
17-04-2017, 19:42
He messaged me before just waiting to hear back from him once he got the terrano
He's picking up 25May
Any more details?
What would you like to know? Simple installation all instructions included, over 30 sold and no complaints :-)
terranosaurusdoug
17-04-2017, 21:16
What would you like to know? Simple installation all instructions included, over 30 sold and no complaints :-)
Is it a maf amp? I'm interested but I'd like to know what it does and how, cheers, Mark.
NO 100% not a maf amp... it increases the fuel quantity!
My PowerChip has just died a death by the looks of it, I think the seal has failed and it's water damaged.
My current one is a waterproof anodised red box with a harness that has to piggyback some of the wires on my fuel pump connector and 1 wire on the MAF.
Is the device you're selling the same as this?
Similar but no wire to the maf :-)
Similar but no wire to the maf :-)
Is this the same device you had fitted to your red Commercial?
terranosaurusdoug
18-04-2017, 14:24
Sounds interesting, how much to post or I can meet you somewhere if you like.
Sounds interesting, how much to post or I can meet you somewhere if you like.
£55 posted with instructions ect or come to me and it's £50 including fitting :-)
Is this the same device you had fitted to your red Commercial?
A more refined version yes
terranosaurusdoug
18-04-2017, 22:23
£55 posted with instructions ect or come to me and it's £50 including fitting :-)
Sounds good, I'll get it mot'd and have a ride over :thumb2, hopefully mot tmoro.
Sounds good, I'll get it mot'd and have a ride over :thumb2, hopefully mot tmoro.
Yeah not a problem :-)
luke1987
21-04-2017, 01:58
Did Doug have his fitted George? Might have to purchase one for myself.
Any chance of these becoming available for the ZD30? :D
terranosaurusdoug
21-04-2017, 12:05
Did Doug have his fitted George? Might have to purchase one for myself.
Hiya mate, my truck is still in garage awaiting it's mot, it was a last minute kinda thing, I will report how big my smile is when I get it fitted :D
Barrbeast
21-04-2017, 12:06
Any chance of these becoming available for the ZD30? :D
I would only use a chip/remap for the 3.0 bud as it needs all the factors to be adjusted - tweaking one factor on its one eg. fueling without tweaking others to suit seems to be a contributing factor to the 3.0 having issues.
I would only use a chip/remap for the 3.0 bud as it needs all the factors to be adjusted - tweaking one factor on its one eg. fueling without tweaking others to suit seems to be a contributing factor to the 3.0 having issues.
OK :thumb2
Wasn't sure what the tuning box was offering. I'm slowly working my way through dealing with sooty exhaust emissions. Have cleaned the throttle body, and intend to do the EGR/manifold etc. Next up is air flow/fuel since I suspect it's overfuelling.
Cheers
Barrbeast
21-04-2017, 18:18
I could be wrong but I think these boxes just increase fueling for the 2.7s that don't have a manual pump to turn up - 3.0 is a more modern design of engine so needs a bit more finesse :thumbs
terranosaurusdoug
21-04-2017, 18:50
I could be wrong but I think these boxes just increase fueling for the 2.7s that don't have a manual pump to turn up - 3.0 is a more modern design of engine so needs a bit more finesse :thumbs
Yeh the 3.0l is very sensitive and precious :augie
Barrbeast
21-04-2017, 19:28
Yeh the 3.0l is very sensitive and precious :augie
Meh I've got a 4.2 now :D
I could be wrong but I think these boxes just increase fueling for the 2.7s that don't have a manual pump to turn up
Certainly don't need more fuel through :lol
Thinking in terms of snorkel and filter with better air flow to satisfy the current set up. :clap
terranosaurusdoug
21-04-2017, 21:49
Certainly don't need more fuel through :lol
Thinking in terms of snorkel and filter with better air flow to satisfy the current set up. :clap
If there is too much fuel then you need more air, check your turbo, turbo actuator, intercooler and pipes etc. :thumb2
If there is too much fuel then you need more air, check your turbo, turbo actuator, intercooler and pipes etc. :thumb2
I checked and cleaned that lot and the throttle body a while ago, need to get down and dirty into the EGR and manifolds now. Once I've given it a good clean I'll give it a blast and see how it goes. Other than clouds of soot there's no other issues at the moment, regularly accelerates up Garrowby Hill quite nicely :D:D:D
If there is too much fuel then you need more air, check your turbo, turbo actuator, intercooler and pipes etc. :thumb2
I checked and cleaned that lot and the throttle body a while ago, need to get down and dirty into the EGR and manifolds now. Once I've given it a good clean I'll give it a blast and see how it goes. Other than clouds of soot there's no other issues at the moment, regularly accelerates up Garrowby Hill quite nicely :D:D:D
I've managed to get mine working again :bow :bow :bow
This is what mine looks like, I'd love someone to be able to identify it, all I know of it as is a "Powerchip" I brought it from Puddle Hoppers Inc if anyone remembers him, I might hit the search up to see if he ever posted any info about it.
https://image.ibb.co/jRdFQF/20170422_190605.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/n1jpkF/20170422_190929.jpg
Put it on the highest setting earlier and I keep managing to lift a wheel every time I corner under acceleration :lol :lol
I'd be interested to see pictures of the tuning box that George is selling in comparison to mine :nenau
Mine has 4 wires to the Bosch IP harness and 1 to the MAF so looks like mine increases air and fuel maybe?
luke1987
23-04-2017, 00:48
George any chance of a pic of your version, You dont have to show the secret :).
Thomas61
23-04-2017, 00:57
Banshee is this puddle hopper thread you brought it through.
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23278
Banshee is this puddle hopper thread you brought it through.
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23278
Yep that's the only thread I could find too :/
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Thomas61
23-04-2017, 01:17
Yep that's the only thread I could find too :/
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I think this may the thread he brought it himself from.
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22128
I think this may the thread he brought it himself from.
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22128
Nice bloody find!!!! Forgot about that
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Thomas61
23-04-2017, 01:31
Nice bloody find!!!! Forgot about that
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And so the search continues. This shows were it was brought from originally. Ebay not live but website still exists and seems to show tuning boxes for Terranos both 3l and 2.7
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17092
And so the search continues. This shows were it was brought from originally. Ebay not live but website still exists and seems to show tuning boxes for Terranos both 3l and 2.7
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17092
Very very good work old chap!!!! That was some interesting reading :)
Thomas61
23-04-2017, 11:53
Very very good work old chap!!!! That was some interesting reading :)
Cheers, when you open the site and once you press the Flag on the top right of the screen everything turns to English and it all makes a bit more sense. Could not see that last night but it was late.:doh
Cheers, when you open the site and once you press the Flag on the top right of the screen everything turns to English and it all makes a bit more sense. Could not see that last night but it was late.:doh
I didnt clock that either I just let Google translate the page but even then it didn't read very well but I got the jist of it
Anyone purchased one of these chips yet and are they any good?
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Blocky10
04-05-2017, 12:54
:nenau :nenau
Lol.
Did you say you fixed your power box thingy?
Lol.
Did you say you fixed your power box thingy?
I have indeed, check Post #29 with pics :naughty :naughty
Still interested in these little gizmos though just so I can work out what it does
terranosaurusdoug
04-05-2017, 13:30
My truck is still in garage waiting for me to put the rear arb back on and fix an exhaust hanger for the test, when I get her back I'm going to give her a couple of good runs then maybe get one.
My truck is still in garage waiting for me to put the rear arb back on and fix an exhaust hanger for the test, when I get her back I'm going to give her a couple of good runs then maybe get one.
Keep us posted old chap :thumb2
Blocky10
04-05-2017, 14:33
I've managed to get mine working again :bow :bow :bow
This is what mine looks like, I'd love someone to be able to identify it, all I know of it as is a "Powerchip" I brought it from Puddle Hoppers Inc if anyone remembers him, I might hit the search up to see if he ever posted any info about it.
https://image.ibb.co/jRdFQF/20170422_190605.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/n1jpkF/20170422_190929.jpg
Put it on the highest setting earlier and I keep managing to lift a wheel every time I corner under acceleration :lol :lol
I'd be interested to see pictures of the tuning box that George is selling in comparison to mine :nenau
Mine has 4 wires to the Bosch IP harness and 1 to the MAF so looks like mine increases air and fuel maybe?
Have you thought about copying that. Doesn't look like there's many components :thumb2
makeitfit
04-05-2017, 22:59
About 30 plus sold on the faceache site mate ;) All report added omph and shmoking times . Ups the fuel pump delivery :sly
About 30 plus sold on the faceache site mate ;) All report added omph and shmoking times . Ups the fuel pump delivery :sly
I'm interested to see one to pit it against my Powerchip and whichever one wins stays fitted!!!
Then I'll sell the inferior one :naughty
makeitfit
05-05-2017, 02:26
I'm interested to see one to pit it against my Powerchip and whichever one wins stays fitted!!!
Then I'll sell the inferior one :naughty
I was going to try one as well as my Tunit box but going manual pump negates that :D
terranosaurusdoug
12-06-2017, 21:18
I got one of these today, george fitted it for me, my truck now goes muchly fasterio :D:D:D
Have done about 50/60 miles since fitted, 30 odd on the M62 rest on B roads, I thought I was going to take off going down the slip road for motorway :lol
When it was first fitted the tick over was a bit lumpy when stopping for lights etc but that seems to be sorting itself out, the more I have driven it the better it's gotten, it's the best £50 I've spent in a long time!
Blocky10
12-06-2017, 22:46
I got one of these today, george fitted it for me, my truck now goes muchly fasterio :D:D:D
Have done about 50/60 miles since fitted, 30 odd on the M62 rest on B roads, I thought I was going to take off going down the slip road for motorway :lol
When it was first fitted the tick over was a bit lumpy when stopping for lights etc but that seems to be sorting itself out, the more I have driven it the better it's gotten, it's the best £50 I've spent in a long time!
The things you lot do to get 3ltr like action:lol:hide:
terranosaurusdoug
13-06-2017, 00:36
The things you lot do to get 3ltr like action:lol:hide:
Ah, but the transformation of your truck has started, first the diffs then the engine, closet 2.7 man :lol
Blocky10
13-06-2017, 07:36
Ah, but the transformation of your truck has started, first the diffs then the engine, closet 2.7 man :lol
Lol. There's no door on my closet :lol
I got one of these today, george fitted it for me, my truck now goes muchly fasterio :D:D:D
Have done about 50/60 miles since fitted, 30 odd on the M62 rest on B roads, I thought I was going to take off going down the slip road for motorway :lol
When it was first fitted the tick over was a bit lumpy when stopping for lights etc but that seems to be sorting itself out, the more I have driven it the better it's gotten, it's the best £50 I've spent in a long time!
Thank you for the feedback mate! Sorry I haven't been on here that much! Pleased your happy with it!
I got one of these today, george fitted it for me, my truck now goes muchly fasterio :D:D:D
Have done about 50/60 miles since fitted, 30 odd on the M62 rest on B roads, I thought I was going to take off going down the slip road for motorway :lol
When it was first fitted the tick over was a bit lumpy when stopping for lights etc but that seems to be sorting itself out, the more I have driven it the better it's gotten, it's the best £50 I've spent in a long time!
I'll be interested in looking at this Dougy boy when I see you next :sly
I'm sure I'll be able to work out what it's doing :naughty
terranosaurusdoug
13-06-2017, 12:19
:lol I don't think it's any big secret, it will all be getting very well hidden and sealed from the elements soon though bud, just thinking of good hiding spots for the adjuster :thumb2
:lol I don't think it's any big secret, it will all be getting very well hidden and sealed from the elements soon though bud, just thinking of good hiding spots for the adjuster :thumb2
Take some pics of the internals dude before you do :thumb2
Take some pics of the internals dude before you do :thumb2
The box itself is already sealed and full of epoxy resin and silicone... up to you if you want to try open it....
I'll be interested in looking at this Dougy boy when I see you next :sly
I'm sure I'll be able to work out what it's doing :naughty
It's doing same as your box but for alot less money.
The box itself is already sealed and full of epoxy resin and silicone... up to you if you want to try open it....
It's doing same as your box but for alot less money.
If that's the case then carrying out a repair on it will be impossible? That seems a bit odd to me that the whole thing would have been injected with silicone and resin, I don't understand why that has been done if not to try and obscure the internals :nenau
Mine is fully waterproofed but still gives me the option to open it and remove the circuit board for repairs and is also firmware up-gradable, does yours have this capability?
terranosaurusdoug
13-06-2017, 15:45
I think it needs looking at in context, it was £50 fitted, makes my truck go faster and I have a control knob in the cab, which will soon have a lego head on it :D
I think it needs looking at in context, it was £50 fitted, makes my truck go faster and I have a control knob in the cab, which will soon have a lego head on it :D
You're more trusting than me mate :bow
terranosaurusdoug
13-06-2017, 16:09
You're more trusting than me mate :bow
Nah, common sense and experience, it's all gravy baby :D
You're more trusting than me mate :bow
No ones making you buy one...if there is a problem with a box in the future I will offer exchange free of charge!!! How many times have you updated the firmware on yours???
If that's the case then carrying out a repair on it will be impossible? That seems a bit odd to me that the whole thing would have been injected with silicone and resin, I don't understand why that has been done if not to try and obscure the internals :nenau
Mine is fully waterproofed but still gives me the option to open it and remove the circuit board for repairs and is also firmware up-gradable, does yours have this capability?
It's done to waterproof the internals!
No ones making you buy one...if there is a problem with a box in the future I will offer exchange free of charge!!! How many times have you updated the firmware on yours???
It's done to waterproof the internals!
I know nobody is forcing my hand to buy one but I was very interested in one. From the get go in this thread, there have been others that have asked for pictures of the device that have gone unanswered and you've not been able/not wanted to answer technical specifics on the device and how it does what it does.
I just get the feeling it's all very hush hush but if I'm going to fork out £50 for something then I'd at least like to see a picture of it, anyone can say that they have sold "X" amount and that everyone loves it.
Given the fact that these are costing £1.50 or whatever it was to build, I can't believe that it s doing "the same job" as my PowerChip I'm afraid. I've upgraded the firmware on mine twice, there's even an application that allows you to fine tune the values but I'm not going to mess with those.
Also you've mentioned that your "box" doesn't tap into the MAF as mine does, everybody knows that the more fuel you request from the pump, it's good practice to amplify the values of the MAF.
Without pulling one of these apart and inspecting it at a component level I would not be installing one on my truck, but that's just me.
I hope everyone that has one fitted enjoys it and that it doesn't ask too much of the Bosch pump causing pump failures as you may have a few grumpy Terrano owners to contend with :doh
As they say on Dragons Den, I'm out :down:
I know nobody is forcing my hand to buy one but I was very interested in one. From the get go in this thread, there have been others that have asked for pictures of the device that have gone unanswered and you've not been able/not wanted to answer technical specifics on the device and how it does what it does.
I just get the feeling it's all very hush hush but if I'm going to fork out £50 for something then I'd at least like to see a picture of it, anyone can say that they have sold "X" amount and that everyone loves it.
Given the fact that these are costing £1.50 or whatever it was to build, I can't believe that it s doing "the same job" as my PowerChip I'm afraid. I've upgraded the firmware on mine twice, there's even an application that allows you to fine tune the values but I'm not going to mess with those.
Also you've mentioned that your "box" doesn't tap into the MAF as mine does, everybody knows that the more fuel you request from the pump, it's good practice to amplify the values of the MAF.
Without pulling one of these apart and inspecting it at a component level I would not be installing one on my truck, but that's just me.
I hope everyone that has one fitted enjoys it and that it doesn't ask too much of the Bosch pump causing pump failures as you may have a few grumpy Terrano owners to contend with :doh
As they say on Dragons Den, I'm out :down:
I haven't got photobucket so can't add pics and as I said before this is different to the one on my commercial.... many people on here also said it couldn't be done!! Bosch pumps are one of the most reliable mechanical pumps out there!!! Please tell me what your box is doing to the maf and what effect that has?
Blocky10
13-06-2017, 20:31
I think it needs looking at in context, it was £50 fitted, makes my truck go faster and I have a control knob in the cab, which will soon have a lego head on it :D
That made me chuckle T-Doug. 'Control knob in the cab' :lol:lol
terranosaurusdoug
13-06-2017, 21:50
That made me chuckle T-Doug. 'Control knob in the cab' :lol:lol
There is a knob in the cab yes, but not really in control :D
I haven't got photobucket so can't add pics and as I said before this is different to the one on my commercial.... many people on here also said it couldn't be done!! Bosch pumps are one of the most reliable mechanical pumps out there!!! Please tell me what your box is doing to the maf and what effect that has?
Photobucket isn't crucial, when you're replying to a post, if you click the paperclip next to the smiley face, this will let you attach 1 image to your post. Failing that you've uploaded 2 videos on YouTube of your truck in action with one fitted, could you not do a quick 30 second video of it showing the connections, adjustment knob and the box itself :nenau That's the sort of thing I'd be doing if I was serious about trying to flog some of these.
I've read and heard people say the same thing about the Bosch pumps that they can't be messed with etc which is why I think so many people have then gone down the manual pump research route even though I've yet to see someone actually do one in my time here, I know Timbo from Shropshire has said he has done a few in the past.
The Bosch VE pump is a very very rugged and durable pump and I have no doubt that they are capable of providing way more umphhhhhh than it does out of the box. I just worry that asking too much of it could kill it off totally. Then there's other things to factor in too, does the pump still behave in the same fashion when ran on Vegetable Oil with the box up full whack? If not and it causes the pump to fail and someone points the finger at the tuning box, what then?
If it were me, I'd be making every person who brought one sign a document to the effect of dissolving any liability for any breakages caused by the box to avoid landing myself in hot water.
Finally, from what I've read, my box amplifies the signal that is being read by the MAF pre 2000RPM, I also noticed that fitting my Snorkel benefited me too as it seemed way more responsive afterwards, the greater the actual air flow, the higher the amplified value, the better the chip works.
Having spoken to a lot of other 4x4 guys about chips and tuning of Diesels etc, they all agreed that if you ask more of the pump, you need to throw in more air, adjusting fuel quantity on it's own will obviously have a positive impact but will plateau eventually without more air in the mix. This is why most 200TDi Defenders and Disco's smoke out the streets when floored as they are pumping unburnt fuel straight back out into the atmosphere I guess :nenau
So how have you adjusted the air to match your fuel increase?
So how have you adjusted the air to match your fuel increase?
I haven't, the chip does this, I have 4 wires that go to the harness on the pump and 1 wire to the MAF, depending on what setting the chip is on depends on how much the MAF value is amplified.
The only thing I've done to improve air flow is fitted the snorkel, the "Ram Effect" seems to have improved the performance compared to when I just had the standard air box set up.
A wire to the maf is not going to do anything to the airflow!!! Increasing the fuel will bring the boost in slightly earlier and increase it slightly but this will happen with my box or yours or even a remap! Turn the fuel up more you will get smoke amplifying the signal from the maf will not increase the air intake the only way to do this more is to turn up the boost!! I'd also like to add that when maf amps where on sale everyone went mad for them! All they did was fool ecu into increasing fuel a slight amount and results where very hit and miss! My box has been run in comparison on terranos with these fitted and my box provides much better results at a much more reliable return! I've also had someone run my box on a terrano with a tunit box fitted to do a comparison, his tunit box is now for sale!!
My box has been run in comparison on terranos with these fitted and my box provides much better results at a much more reliable return! I've also had someone run my box on a terrano with a tunit box fitted to do a comparison, his tunit box is now for sale!!
Time will tell I suppose, I'll watch from a distance and see how how people get on long term.
Is it just the one you've sold to Doug on here so far?
terranosaurusdoug
14-06-2017, 15:20
More boost is something for the future :sly, going to get an egt gauge and boost gauge on it first then hopefully exhaust, then maybe send turbo off to become a hybrid or summat :nenau:D:thumb2
Time will tell I suppose, I'll watch from a distance and see how how people get on long term.
Is it just the one you've sold to Doug on here so far?
Yes just Doug on here but plenty through other places! I guess the negativity doesn't help!
I think you will find the wire on yours that goes to the maf has nothing to do with increasing air flow ;-) but hey I guess if we all knew how things worked we would all be Making them!!
At the end of the day I did these for people that wanted abit more poke and don't have £200+ for a tunit, I thought people on here like other sites would appreciate it but I guess not!! Cheer for your purchase mark I hope you are happy with it! If you come across any issues let me know :-)
No ones making you buy one...if there is a problem with a box in the future I will offer exchange free of charge!!! How many times have you updated the firmware on yours???
It's done to waterproof the internals!
Yes just Doug on here but plenty through other places! I guess the negativity doesn't help!
I think you will find the wire on yours that goes to the maf has nothing to do with increasing air flow ;-) but hey I guess if we all knew how things worked we would all be Making them!!
At the end of the day I did these for people that wanted abit more poke and don't have £200+ for a tunit, I thought people on here like other sites would appreciate it but I guess not!! Cheer for your purchase mark I hope you are happy with it! If you come across any issues let me know :-)
No negativity, just realistic observations that I'm throwing out there before people fit these to their trucks. Forgive me if I seem a bit hostile but you are a very new member to the forum and I'm just looking out for the guys and their trucks.
New member?? I thought you was a moderator on here? Check your facts again!!
New member?? I thought you was a moderator on here? Check your facts again!!
131 posts is a new member to me, doesn't matter how long you've been joined since if you've not contributed much :nenau
I feel like I've said enough on the chips now, I've aired my concerns which I think our fellow forum members are entitled to hear.
Well it's a fact I won't be renewing!
As I said these where done to benefit people that want abit more poke and not have to fork out £200+ this tuning method has been used on Bosch pumps for years and just needed tweaking to suit the terrano! From day one on here it was met with negativity saying it can't be done ect, so i prove it can be done and you still get the 'know it all' airing their concerns!
If anyone wants one I'm available on other pages, have 100% feed back from many happy customers!
Cheers
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