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Hey all, Zephyr here.
I'm getting 2001 TERRANO II SE+ TDi (Blue, supposedly about 68K miles) tomorrow from the dealer (yay!) - as I'm not an expert on mechanic, I just had a feeling that I had to get this, though I'm a bit concern that I didn't check the car enough. I saw a bit of rust underneath of the car and also above wheel arch before the bonnet on both side. I have researched a bit and decided to maintain/remove these rusts to make it look better, to put 5% tinted film on all rears (if I didn't have any trouble withe car in the first place).
So I'll pick it up tomorrow paying the rest of money, then take it straight to the garage to get MOT done even though it'll be December for next one. The reason being I'm a little bit suspicious on MOT history as there wasn't any advisory or failure since 2009....even Nissan/Terrano?? My guess is that the garage previous owner might have been using his friend and let it through - but then it's actually making the driver's safety quite meaningless, so hoping it'll turn out to be a good hit.
I saw someone got a dodgy car elsewhere but determined to get authorities to penalise the dealer. I'm also hoping that I won't be in the situation like that!
Anyway happy to be an owner of Terrano and wanted to say hello to all. Although it's a bit of truck, I felt it's comfortable in a spacious cabin to drive and I liked the way I can look down others, he he. Let's see how it goes tomorrow.
Cheers!
Zephyr
don simon
30-09-2016, 21:34
Welcome, you'll find plenty of helpful and friendly people here.
Here's to many years of Terrano driving, they are the most awesome of cars. So much so hat I sleep in mine from time to time.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along asking for pics soon.
solarman216
30-09-2016, 22:34
Hi and welcome, you will love the drive position on a T2, after around 2000 they cheapened them down a bit, so other problems arise not just rust, but lets see what your MOT says of it, Rick
jims-terrano
30-09-2016, 22:47
Welcome aboard and you've defo come to the right place for all things Terrano. Assuming yours is the 2.7? There is a 3.0 too both are great lumps just different. My personal choice is the 2.7 which is the same engine fitted to the older london cabs, no timing belts or chains to worry about.
Doubt an MOT would come up with any fault that hasn't been covered on here.
Get it serviced along with transmission oils, the rear diff is fussy about the type of oil and chances are previous owner would have not had this replaced.
So after the MOT let us know what if anything it has thrown up, get some pics posted including the rust you mentioned too.
Had mine since 2002 and ended up with another that I bought for parts and ended up repairing, see my project thread in my signature.
Hi Mate
Welcome along I can tell you are going to fit in here just fine :thumb2
Post some pictures of it when you have it, 68k isn't bad at all, not even run in yet I'd say, if you want some inspiration for mods, click the link for my project thread in my signiture below, it started standard and got out of hand :lol
Blocky10
01-10-2016, 11:44
Hello and welcome. 3ltr's rule. That is all:naughty
Thank you very much, Simon, Rick, Jim, Banshee, Ian, for warm welcomes.
So I went this dealer and paid rest of money to get a car. (The guy turned up for 30 minutes late which I had to wait outside when it's raining) Initially I was still hoping past MOTs were correct without any issue - it turned out there are certain things that need to be replaced. I brought Terrano to my known garage and they checked most of the part.
What they told me was that it won't get through MOT in December if I didn't do anything. Some of the part was ball joints (classic!), some rubber parts under wheel, also they told me the shaft might need to be replaced but in the mean time it's ok for me to drive (!) until December under this condition. Okay, if they say. Also side panels (left/right of bonnet) are rusty - rust is eating up edges! so they said they can replace (trying to find out cheaper parts from elsewhere). But overall it wasn't too bad, wasn't my worst case scenario. Phew!
Driving wise, I like the height, sound of engine, feeling a bit of nostalgia as this car is more like a proper man without much digital tools :p
Oh the one thing - it made three beeps and keeps doing it for a while. It did some point, but earlier when I drove it didn't. There is no warning light on the dash, I googled and found some are saying it might be a seatbelt or door not being shut properly, or lower battery. Does anyone know what this three beep means?
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jims-terrano
01-10-2016, 16:25
Smart looking truck:thumbs
So beeps, mine has some beeps when battery has been disconnected but after the first engine run and then stop lock the doors it is all ok. So does it have some kind of gadgets like sat nav, dash cams or even a non standard alarm.
Lets see the pictures of the rusty panels. I can't imagine being able to buy brand new replacement panels either nissan and after market. Normally repair panels are steel plate cut and bent into shape.
zippy656
01-10-2016, 17:03
Nice!
Needs more lights
Assuming yours is the 2.7?
Yes, it is. I've also heard that these engines were same as Black Cabs - great!:thumb2
Jim, thought this looks nice considering ages (15 years old!) ;)
As for beeps, I found the reason - it's radio showing some kind of error which I can read as the lcd is worn out and letters are not displayed. It says something like "No t**** *** ***".
Rust! There are a couple of damages. I'd need to take more pictures. But these are side panels above tyre-arch. So my garage is looking for parts and will indicate the price for me.
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Thank you very much, Simon, Rick, Jim, Banshee, Ian, for warm welcomes.
So I went this dealer and paid rest of money to get a car. (The guy turned up for 30 minutes late which I had to wait outside when it's raining) Initially I was still hoping past MOTs were correct without any issue - it turned out there are certain things that need to be replaced. I brought Terrano to my known garage and they checked most of the part.
What they told me was that it won't get through MOT in December if I didn't do anything. Some of the part was ball joints (classic!), some rubber parts under wheel, also they told me the shaft might need to be replaced but in the mean time it's ok for me to drive (!) until December under this condition. Okay, if they say. Also side panels (left/right of bonnet) are rusty - rust is eating up edges! so they said they can replace (trying to find out cheaper parts from elsewhere). But overall it wasn't too bad, wasn't my worst case scenario. Phew!
Driving wise, I like the height, sound of engine, feeling a bit of nostalgia as this car is more like a proper man without much digital tools :p
Oh the one thing - it made three beeps and keeps doing it for a while. It did some point, but earlier when I drove it didn't. There is no warning light on the dash, I googled and found some are saying it might be a seatbelt or door not being shut properly, or lower battery. Does anyone know what this three beep means?
https://s9.postimg.org/lmgcgolun/20161001_132222.jpg
Nice base mate, you'll soon learn not to trust anyone else with these cars now you've found us :thumb2
Terrano wings will do what Terrano wings will do, that's one of the most common problems dude, replacments are rare and expensive because of this, you'll find a set if you look long enough but as said most on here that have had this issue have removed, patched, repaired and re-sprayed :thumb2
I presume your guy meant the rubber CV boot on the front driveshaft? What was wrong with the actual shaft? Not sure how your guy could have properly looked at/tested it without actually putting it into 4WD and having a play.
Next time you hear the beeps, record it on your phone, report back and I'll find a way of getting it off you so I can have a listen, probably something trivial, on my Maverick I got 3 beeps when I shut it off and that was the Sony headunit :nenau
Banshee,
Nice base mate, you'll soon learn not to trust anyone else with these cars now you've found us :thumb2
Terrano wings will do what Terrano wings will do, that's one of the most common problems dude, replacments are rare and expensive because of this, you'll find a set if you look long enough but as said most on here that have had this issue have removed, patched, repaired and re-sprayed :thumb2
I presume your guy meant the rubber CV boot on the front driveshaft? What was wrong with the actual shaft? Not sure how your guy could have properly looked at/tested it without actually putting it into 4WD and having a play.
Next time you hear the beeps, record it on your phone, report back and I'll find a way of getting it off you so I can have a listen, probably something trivial, on my Maverick I got 3 beeps when I shut it off and that was the Sony headunit :nenau
I see, now I understand they are called "wing"s. Yes, that's the part and because of this my car doesn't look. Still waiting for update from my garage.
According to the guy at the garage, when he turn left or right to the end and it make sounds "ga ga ga!!" (Sorry not sure if this is right expression of the sound) - like two sharp metals scraping each other, he said "hm, might be a drive shaft causing this...". They also lifted it up and check the parts underneath. Having said that, they didn't drive in 4WD to check.
Beeps - thank you. I found out the cause of this beeping coming from the radio, I've now got a problem as this radio is combined with parking/hazard button. I see there are two little holes on both side in the middle which I suppose is to release it, but this parking/hazard button is in centre at the bottom as a part of radio meaning if I take this out to replace with after market radio like Sony, how could I make this button available?
Banshee,
I see, now I understand they are called "wing"s. Yes, that's the part and because of this my car doesn't look. Still waiting for update from my garage.
According to the guy at the garage, when he turn left or right to the end and it make sounds "ga ga ga!!" (Sorry not sure if this is right expression of the sound) - like two sharp metals scraping each other, he said "hm, might be a drive shaft causing this...". They also lifted it up and check the parts underneath. Having said that, they didn't drive in 4WD to check.
Beeps - thank you. I found out the cause of this beeping coming from the radio, I've now got a problem as this radio is combined with parking/hazard button. I see there are two little holes on both side in the middle which I suppose is to release it, but this parking/hazard button is in centre at the bottom as a part of radio meaning if I take this out to replace with after market radio like Sony, how could I make this button available?
Whatever you do, DO NOT unplug that radio and leave it overnight or you will have problems with the immobiliser, it messes up the NATS module so be careful, have a search on the forum, lots of people have had this issue in the past.
Yeah let them look at it, could well have an issue, even though you are not in 4WD if you have fixed hubs at the front the CV's will still be spinning
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jims-terrano
01-10-2016, 20:24
Dont worry about those wings too much, as said they all do that. They are not an mot fail unless they have sharp edges which is when they actually have holes which yours look fine. Mine have holes so I stuck duck tape over the holes to keep them safe until I get chance to repair.
Now the noise when the wheels are turned, does this happen when full lock (turn)?
The steering stops grind when on full lock, theres two on each wheel. Simply blob grease on the steering stops every 6 months and they'll be fine.
Dead easy to find the steering stops, put the wheels on full lock and look at each side and then put the opposite lock on and again visit each side. I'm pretty sure the downloads section contains a guide to replacing the steering stops but it's easier to blob some grease on to them.
Actually Jim, there's a part that a half moon shaped place where erosion of rust made. So there's a gap where the rain/dirt goes in. Until I've got a repair properly, I was thinking to use this;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hammerite-5092820-Kurust-250ml/dp/B004Z4UMUA/
then touch paint it to cover at least.
As for noise, they showed me the steering stops and put some grease on it on both side. Then the garage's owner drove it and told be about shaft so yeah, I'd need to make sure if this is the case. I will go out shortly for night supermarket shopping, so will try the full lock. Wonder if I can record?
Whatever you do, DO NOT unplug that radio and leave it overnight or you will have problems with the immobiliser, it messes up the NATS module so be careful, have a search on the forum, lots of people have had this issue in the past.
Thanks, Banshee, wow, sounds like this is a big deal. Thought I can easily replace this with my Sony, but will research first. Shame I don't usually use cassette tapes/CDs anymore.
johnb5177
01-10-2016, 21:09
Hey Zehyr,
Check this link out...I fitted this in a homemade facia plate, that incorporated a hazard switch...also from fleabay. You need the appropriate wiring harness ISO to DIN (or is it otherway around :nenau) anyway, you need to keep the NATS system happy, so everything sitting to hand before you take out the old unit.....
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331770132022
Good luck....great trucks...mine is a workhorse that scrubs up nicely as a family car......:thumb2
jims-terrano
01-10-2016, 21:30
Had a thought about your noise, your truck was around the changer over between auto locking front hubs and fixed hubs. Look under the silver coloured covers in the centre of the front wheels. If you have auto locking hubs the actual hub will almost fill the space under the silver plastic cover, the hub is held with approx 5 or 6 alan bolts (hex key). If you have fixed hubs the actual metal hub is a very small hub held with nuts on to short studs.
If you have auto locking hubs then your front drive shafts should not be turning with the wheels so therefore should not be making any noises.
If you have the fixed hubs then yes the drive shafts would be turned by the wheels and could make noise if faulty.
If you are unsure about your hubs take a photo and post on here.
Hey Zehyr,
Check this link out...I fitted this in a homemade facia plate, that incorporated a hazard switch...also from fleabay. You need the appropriate wiring harness ISO to DIN (or is it otherway around :nenau) anyway, you need to keep the NATS system happy, so everything sitting to hand before you take out the old unit.....
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331770132022
Good luck....great trucks...mine is a workhorse that scrubs up nicely as a family car......:thumb2
Thanks, John. Is it just connection that I have to take care when it comes to replacing it? Radio on some of makes, like Renault for example, you'd need to enter the code to make it work, wouldn't you? If it's just you can replace not leaving it disconnected overnight, looks like just a daytime homework. How can you find out if the aftermarket radio can incorporate a hazard switch?
Mine's going to be more for family ride to everywhere ;)
Hi Jim, will have a look tomorrow or later as I will be out for a day.
I found it did make a sound only when I turn left in full. It's like loud "GA GA". Might be latter on your suggestion?
Thomas61
01-10-2016, 22:41
As for beeps, I found the reason - it's radio showing some kind of error which I can read as the lcd is worn out and letters are not displayed. It says something like "No t**** *** ***".
Hi mate,
Do you have any Radio stations on the Pre Set. Could the LCD screen be reading "No Traffic Pre Set". I can't find my manual but know these radios had the ability to record and play back traffic news and also change radio stations automatically for traffic news. Try pressing the TA button on the Radio to turn it off.
The LCD screen can improve a little in hot weather or when the car interior gets warm
Good luck.
Hi Thomas, you are right. It must be this one. The problem is that it's hardly readable on LCD and not sure how to set. I'm still considering to replace this kit and only problem is a hazard light which needs to be controlled by a new radio I would put in, though don't know how I can find out, for instance, if my Sony MEX-N4000BT would do the job.
Blocky10
02-10-2016, 10:40
Hi Thomas, you are right. It must be this one. The problem is that it's hardly readable on LCD and not sure how to set. I'm still considering to replace this kit and only problem is a hazard light which needs to be controlled by a new radio I would put in, though don't know how I can find out, for instance, if my Sony MEX-N4000BT would do the job.
You will have to separate the hazard switch from the radio. Several people on here have successfully done this.
jims-terrano
02-10-2016, 10:50
If you do a search on here there are one or two threads regarding the radio and hazard light switch.
You often see kits on ebay with a replacement switch and a surround panel (facia). These look good and indeed the very late Terranos have exactly the same panel and switch. May be you could get a later model panel and switch, think it's about 54 plate onwards, certainly my 05 plate had this setup.
One or two people on here have made their own panel and I think they used a switch from a Nissan Primera P11 model. I know that I have seen one thread a year or two ago with photos and write up but can't remember who it was.
Thomas61
02-10-2016, 10:58
Hi mate,
As said other people have successfully changed there radios. Some people have made there own single DIN facia to fill the space in the dash. You can buy a proper facia plate (costs though) with hole for separate hazard switch. The two links are for the facia plate and the now discontinued (from this site) hazard switch but does quote Nissan part number.Never used the site but good for an example.
https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=3946
https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=2886
Not sure what connecters are needed for radio and switch but as said by others it is possible just needs a little research.
jims-terrano
02-10-2016, 11:52
Checkout these links to threads on here about the radio, even found a thread about bleeping but not sure if it's the same as yours.
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27166
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25974
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23223
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21810
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21465
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21208
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19819
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17535
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15013
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18063
And for your bleeping
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24660
Ok so I have nothing better to do this morning other than look through pages and pages of threads.
A lot of reading but some good advice contained in them.
Blocky10
02-10-2016, 12:06
Checkout these links to threads on here about the radio, even found a thread about bleeping but not sure if it's the same as yours.
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27166
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25974
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23223
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21810
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21465
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21208
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19819
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17535
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15013
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18063
And for your bleeping
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24660
Ok so I have nothing better to do this morning other than look through pages and pages of threads.
A lot of reading but some good advice contained in them.
Lol. Well done Jim:bow
I seem to remember someone using a plastic chopping board to make a fascia? Cheap and worked well.
jims-terrano
02-10-2016, 12:20
Lol. Well done Jim:bow
I seem to remember someone using a plastic chopping board to make a fascia? Cheap and worked well.
After reading those I think it was Elty or LazyFerret that did that.
Barrbeast
02-10-2016, 12:39
Bit late, but welcome bud!
johnb5177
02-10-2016, 15:37
After reading those I think it was Elty or LazyFerret that did that.
I used a piece of 5mm MDF, works fine finished in matt black.....:thumb2
Thanks Thomas and Jim.
Apologies for you to explain to me and spend your time to check this for me:thumb2 At this moment I'm a bit indecisive if I will replace it or not as I'm not confident that I can complete the hazard light's part.
Possibly I'd do other things first such as changing headlights, filters, tinted windows etc.... but surely the information you gave me will something I will look into to prepare for it.
jims-terrano
02-10-2016, 22:53
Small steps Zehyr, we all start somewhere and the support on here is second to none.
I made my facia from MDF.
Hazard switch from eBay for a couple of quid.
Thomas61
03-10-2016, 06:34
Hi mate,
I have not done my radio yet for the same reason. My car is a daily driver and is needed without fail so i have to be 100% confident that what I start I can finish and successfully.
As for the TA button on the radio if this is the reason for your beeping then I believe it only has one function press once for on and press again for off. May not be the reason but I always like to start with the simple before hurting my brain with the hard.
Thank you, Jim. I'm aiming to learn to do more from where I stand now. I appreciate this forum/exprts like you are here!
I drove about 50 miles yesterday going through central London to the west, coming back and I became to like Terrano more. I think this is because although I didn't need to speed up much, I knew there's enough power to do so if I require and the sound from engine, vibration from steering wheel made me feel as if I was driving a far more bigger car, ha!:lol
Thomas, apart from fading LCD all functions are working and this hazard light thingy is putting me off a bit. What I wanted to do was bluetooth connection to my Sony so that I can listen to music from my mobile, pick up calls, but I suppose these are "convenienve" and not mandatory things to do.
Will see if I understand enough all bits about how I'd do it without failure before starting. So it's on my list, but this isn't immediate homework!:naughty
zippy656
03-10-2016, 06:47
I found doing radio simple, didn't usage any problems
No hazard switch though, as mine is lower.
New radio was from lidl, adapter cable from from halfords.
jims-terrano
03-10-2016, 07:16
Thank you, Jim. I'm aiming to learn to do more from where I stand now. I appreciate this forum/exprts like you are here!
I'm no expert, I'm just a loud mouth with far too much time on my hands this weekend. I'm normally out volunteering for a youth group on a weekend so makes a change to have a break.
Seriously though I'm no expert, I can just remember threads on here and also jobs I have and still need to do on my truck. I lost all confidence working on my own cars but with the help of this forum and it's members I've gained confidence back so that I can tackle jobs.
Enjoy your new teuck and all you need to do is little jobs and of course youa re right get any mechanical repairs sorted before the radio.
I'm no expert, I'm just a loud mouth with far too much time on my hands this weekend. I'm normally out volunteering for a youth group on a weekend so makes a change to have a break.
Seriously though I'm no expert, I can just remember threads on here and also jobs I have and still need to do on my truck. I lost all confidence working on my own cars but with the help of this forum and it's members I've gained confidence back so that I can tackle jobs.
Enjoy your new teuck and all you need to do is little jobs and of course youa re right get any mechanical repairs sorted before the radio.
Thanks, Jim. It encourages me to do a bit of work on my Terrano. Only rusts are bit of let down though. Still waiting for quotation for all engineering bits.
zippy656
Yeah, I'd replace it without hesitation if the hazard light is not involved. Just I feel a bit troublesome if I have to do something about it. But I haven't given up and surely will attempt to do the job!:)
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