Ford Maverick Radio Model 2007 rds with seperate amp.

[rustic]

I took the Mav out today, fresh fuel, after a good clean, dry off the underside before putting her to bed.
I tried the radio, and that is distorting at very low sound levels, same if you put in a cassette... yes that old lol.
Left Right, front back, all the same.
I disconnected the amp under the driver's seat, reconnected it, still the same, pulled the radio fuse, still the same.

So not sure if radio, or amp, amp is easy to eliminate, easy access two plugs.
What I need is a spare amp to borrow.

I had thought about replacing the radio a few years back, but the threads on here, all say the same... it's a pig lol, as the radio is in the dash, and the speaker driver wiring is under the driver's seat.
OK not a big task for me, but another job I could without.:eek:

So if the amp is duff, a replacement one will sort it, if it's the radio... then I'll get a decent one and hack the wiring.
I might make an attempt to remove the radio anyway, but first I will review all the old posts on how to get the ford radio out.


What I could do... I could look at the wiring to and from the amp and I have a small oscilloscope hidden in the garage somewhere, if there is clipping before the amp, then radio, if the signal in, is clean, and clipping out, then the amplifier.
Simples lol.

Rustic

[Blocky10]

I was with you all the way to the last sentence :thumb2
Then it was wahwahblahmumbleblah?:lol

I'd like to change mine but it works ok apart from the display, so will leave it for now.
I'd thought maybe take it to a shop and let them at it, but it's too risky me thinks. :nenau

[RJL Services]

on my terrano when i had a similar problem i found the speaker cones were starting to fall apart may be worth a check i bought some boss ones of ebay for £27 a pair new as they were the correct shape to fit speaker housing in the door i replaced all 4 in the end as rear were starting to do the same:thumb2

[jims-terrano]

Yeah I was going to suggest the speakers too.

[rustic]

Yeah I was going to suggest the speakers too.

It would have to be all 4 speakers gone at once, unlikely.
For a second after rest of a few hours, just tried it now, it has some volume then distortion, this implies an electronic failure, either head or amp.
Rustic

[rustic]

I have done some research, and I think it is time to replace the original Ford 2007 rds radio. We currently link a portable cd player to the cassette slot using an adaptor, bit of a bodge but works. I would like an SD slot and bluetooth etc.

I have sussed the speaker connections, so now I will have to run 4x 2 core speaker wires from under the driver's seat to the rear of the radio, then do all the wiring from there.
That should do it. The amp would be obsolete, and the signal cable from the radio to the amp.


So question...
Is the Ford radio, or any other radio fitted to a Terrano circa 1995 a din size, and will a modern radio slot in without gaps?

Many thanks.
Rustic

[Blocky10]

I have done some research, and I think it is time to replace the original Ford 2007 rds radio. We currently link a portable cd player to the cassette slot using an adaptor, bit of a bodge but works. I would like an SD slot and bluetooth etc.

I have sussed the speaker connections, so now I will have to run 4x 2 core speaker wires from under the driver's seat to the rear of the radio, then do all the wiring from there.
That should do it. The amp would be obsolete, and the signal cable from the radio to the amp.


So question...
Is the Ford radio, or any other radio fitted to a Terrano circa 1995 a din size, and will a modern radio slot in without gaps?

Many thanks.
Rustic

Sorry rustic. Can't help you with this but I will be following your thread with interest. :thumbs

[Banshee]

I have done some research, and I think it is time to replace the original Ford 2007 rds radio. We currently link a portable cd player to the cassette slot using an adaptor, bit of a bodge but works. I would like an SD slot and bluetooth etc.

I have sussed the speaker connections, so now I will have to run 4x 2 core speaker wires from under the driver's seat to the rear of the radio, then do all the wiring from there.
That should do it. The amp would be obsolete, and the signal cable from the radio to the amp.


So question...
Is the Ford radio, or any other radio fitted to a Terrano circa 1995 a din size, and will a modern radio slot in without gaps?

Many thanks.
Rustic

I successfully fitted a Pionoor DEH-2000 I think it was into my Maverick :thumb2

Was a single DIN jobbie but I did have to get a facia from Halfords to cover the gap

[rustic]

I successfully fitted a Pionoor DEH-2000 I think it was into my Maverick :thumb2

Was a single DIN jobbie but I did have to get a facia from Halfords to cover the gap

Ahh I had this thought at the back of my mind, many thanks.

Rustic

[macabethiel]

Now I think of it my old Terrano r3mR had a Hitachi radio/CD unit in the upper half with a plastic cubby hole slotted in below so it was a double DIN sized hole.

When I bought the vehicle the radio slowly disapeared towards the bulkhead when you put in a new CD. It was a pig to get out as someone had but double sided tape down each side to hold the radio level with the dash.

After a lot of work with an old bread knife I cut through the tape and managed to get the set out OK. I had a rummage in my box of bits that are too good to throw away and found a 1980's front mounting plate/plinth unit that made the set stick out by about 3/8" and that was sorted. Bent out the slotted bits at the side to make it harder to steal and viola it was done.

[jims-terrano]

Hi Rustic, fitted a standard single din in the project truck with no gaps. Only mistake that I made was fitted the cage in the hole from the old radio and bent the tabs around the wood effect fascia so the radio rattles. Was going to have a look to see if the original mounting brackets would some how fit the replacement radio but not really had the chance. Anyhoo heres a pic of what the radio looks like in the original fascia, give me a shout if you want any further photos.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/jimt3/N4x4OC/Day%20Before%20MOT/Stereo_zpssirb2fwz.jpg (http://s429.photobucket.com/user/jimt3/media/N4x4OC/Day%20Before%20MOT/Stereo_zpssirb2fwz.jpg.html)

[rustic]

Thanks Jim, that picture really helps.
:thumb2

[Banshee]

Hi Rustic, fitted a standard single din in the project truck with no gaps. Only mistake that I made was fitted the cage in the hole from the old radio and bent the tabs around the wood effect fascia so the radio rattles. Was going to have a look to see if the original mounting brackets would some how fit the replacement radio but not really had the chance. Anyhoo heres a pic of what the radio looks like in the original fascia, give me a shout if you want any further photos.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/jimt3/N4x4OC/Day%20Before%20MOT/Stereo_zpssirb2fwz.jpg (http://s429.photobucket.com/user/jimt3/media/N4x4OC/Day%20Before%20MOT/Stereo_zpssirb2fwz.jpg.html)

I was missing the thin plastic surround that you have around your stereo when I purchased mine Jim, Halfords sold me one for a few quid that was a universal one for all Pioneers? :nenau

[jims-terrano]

That radio has been a cracking set, Clivvy had it kicking around in his shed so just gave it to me (cheers). Its the type that the front panel removes and as you say has a surround panel that just clips over the front once slid into the cage.

The one thing that makes fitting after market radios into terranos is that nissan didnt fit the amplifier system that ford seemed to fit.

[rustic]

I have managed to get an unused un fitted, still in box Tevion (Aldi) Stereo, cd, sd, usb, remote control, nearly identical to the one I fitted to our boat with 4 speakers lol, so fitting in the mav won't be more difficult that that lol:doh

[rustic]

I found out yesterday why the Ford radio does not come out with the radio removal tools...
The mechanism to allow that has been replaced with 2 brackets.

So this could make fitting al alternative more of a challenge.

First option, maybe transfer the brackets to the new radio.
On the Ford 2007, the other side bracket has nuts on the inside, so you have to open the radio case :doh

There is another issue, the main live, all the time, feed is quite heavy cabling, but the wire from the ignition key is much lighter, so I cannot use the ignition supply to feed the main power, as it will damage the contacts.
I think the Ford radio used the ignition as a control to allow power from the main feed.
So I will fit a relay, with the coil fed by the ignition switch and feed the radio via the relay contacts. Easy enough. :thumb2
Rustic

[jims-terrano]

Hi Rustic, virtually the same fitting arrangement as Nissan. When I fitted the radio pictured earlier I used one of those single din cages and bent the wedge shaped lugs to hold the cage in the apperture in the dash panel and then the radio slides into the cage which allows you to use the removal tools you described.
The big disadvantage is the radio and dash panel rattle! When I get time I want to remove the brackets from the original radio and adapt them to fit the replacement radio. Only thing Im worried about is screwing something into the radio and shorting the radio internals out. To me this is by far the best way of mounting it as it removes extra stresses on the dash panel.

As for the wiring, sounds like normal wiring to me having a permanent live feed and a switched from ignition. I guess your issue is the guage of the live being thick. Are you breaking into the factory wiring to connect the new radios wiring or are you using an adapter to simply plug in and to factory radio plug and then into the new radio. I know your background and trust your ideas about a relay but I cant understand why it needs a relay.

[macabethiel]

Yikes it's amazing how models differ between Nissan & Ford versions of essentially the same product.

Just shows how simple sounding jobs get more involved when you start to delve - and I thought it was just me that had these obstacles when faced with a seemingly straight forward DIY task. Then I get her indoors making some smart remark about her thinking I know what I am doing to chivvy me along.lol

[rustic]

... I know your background and trust your ideas about a relay but I cant understand why it needs a relay.

Hi Jim, Having researched a bit more, and using the multimeter to measure some currents, the ignition feed is a few mA and is a control signal, that allows the full 12 volt power to the radio, so all will be wired as standard, no relay required.


For the connections, I am leaving the original connectors in place and I have a few crimps that mate with the plug/ sockets, saves cutting wires and soldering, but if the connections are poor, then I might solder wire to wire.

I have removed the side clamps, and mounted them on the new radio, using the radio fixing holes which means the old brackets had to be redrilled
Biggest job now is running the speaker cables from the dash to under the seat.

:augie

[rustic]

All fitted now, I have not cut any connectors, so if I wanted to, I could reinstall the old radio. :nenau

I have a stash of connectors, some small pins and sockets that would normally fit into plugs and sockets.
I soldered the wires to the pin/sockets and sleaved them with heat shrink.

The most difficult part was routing the cable from the radio, to the underseat location, but the wires run under the carpet, and then up behind the heater.


I used 1.5 mm2 twin speaker wire, but a bit OTT, 1mm2 would have been easier.

For the side brackets off the old Ford Radio, I refitted one each side after drilling the bracket, 5mm and used one of the original formed 5mm threaded holes.
There was a grey foam gasket around the old radio, so I transferred this to the new radio. Result.. when the trim is replaced, there is no gap around the radio.

Looks and sounds good.
Rustic

[jims-terrano]

Hmmm hmm, photos please:thumbs

Good work Rustic