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Madmark
15-02-2016, 23:42
I'm really gonna look into this with the intension of actually doing it if I find the right pump

Wd21 pump and make up pedal to take cable ?

I realise speedo etc wont work as all through ecu

What else is needed to be considered eg will wd21 pump work to start with

solarman216
15-02-2016, 23:52
do not think it will work, ecu will not get any feedback from pump so will say eff off, Rick

Madmark
16-02-2016, 08:27
But those pumps dont have ecu do they? Thats the point I wanna ditch all ecu crap.

RJL Services
16-02-2016, 09:20
should have a cable pedal lying around off a early terrano type if any use let me know and ill dig it out must be in a box somewhere early terrano were just basic mechainical pumps and would fit easier

panelbeater
16-02-2016, 09:57
i think ricks saying the ecu in t2 you will be fitting old pump into wont like it not old pump as t2 has ecu that does a lot.

Fez_uk
16-02-2016, 10:11
I doubt you actually connect the ecu to the pump, will be all mechanical with a old fashioned stop solenoid that can be activated by 12v.

It might throw up some odd errors but the car would still run.

Madmark
16-02-2016, 10:47
should have a cable pedal lying around off a early terrano type if any use let me know and ill dig it out must be in a box somewhere early terrano were just basic mechainical pumps and would fit easier

What would ya want for pedal as wanna start collecting stuff cheers bud

Madmark
16-02-2016, 10:49
I will literally rip out all engine wiring and do basic set up start stop etc as just fed up with all ecu rubbish I know speed and revs etc will all need sorting but at worst ill use sat nave etc untill I sort that sort of stuff

RJL Services
16-02-2016, 11:43
at yard on thursday will locate and pm you mate

Madmark
16-02-2016, 12:44
at yard on thursday will locate and pm you mate

Thanks bud

Barrbeast
16-02-2016, 14:29
Don't see why it can't be done, they do it on the Y61 Trols when converting to the 4.2 engine. Might need looking at by an auto sparky though if the ecu doesn't behave :nenau

Madmark
16-02-2016, 15:05
There won't be an ecu as not needed if running mechanical cable pump. Same as 200tdi defender no ecu just on off and throttle

Barrbeast
16-02-2016, 19:01
Your ecu does more than just work the fuel pump bud, there's the MAF etc as well.

Fez_uk
16-02-2016, 19:42
Your ecu does more than just work the fuel pump bud, there's the MAF etc as well.

I doubt the maf will be needed

Madmark
16-02-2016, 20:21
You guys ain't getting this

With manual pump its just the pump that's needed no ecu no maff the pump is set to right air to fuel no crank sensor. Just warm the glow plugs and go! Early basic diesels

kitchenman
16-02-2016, 20:58
You guys ain't getting this

With manual pump its just the pump that's needed no ecu no maff the pump is set to right air to fuel no crank sensor. Just warm the glow plugs and go! Early basic diesels
I have the TD Maverick, it does just as Madmark says:clap:clap
Twist and go

Madmark
16-02-2016, 21:32
Have you got a picture bud of truck and possibly engine shot ideally pump ��

elty001
16-02-2016, 21:42
Have a search on here mark.Bud from New Zealand has done this to his mistral and im sure there is quite a detailed write up.
Failing that he is on the Facebook group:thumb2

Madmark
16-02-2016, 22:35
Cool will do. I'm fairly confident ill be able to do this but finding a pump that's in my budget lol

elty001
16-02-2016, 22:57
Me and exosteve talked about this and his mechanical guru friend says it is doable.
Basically you are just reverting back to a simple mechanical set up.

Madmark
16-02-2016, 23:29
Exactly bud. I'm hoping to have a late rot free never welded, ecu free terrano. Pretty rare beast

elty001
17-02-2016, 00:12
http://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=40682

kitchenman
17-02-2016, 02:59
You may have emissions problems I am told by my MOT station that newer diesels have a much lower requirement to pass
One of the reasons for the electricary perhaps

Was it me you wanted to take pictures??? or Bud the NZ guy?

Madmark
17-02-2016, 07:16
You may have emissions problems I am told by my MOT station that newer diesels have a much lower requirement to pass
One of the reasons for the electricary perhaps

Was it me you wanted to take pictures??? or Bud the NZ guy?

No you fella bud doesn't seem avalible any more

Madmark
17-02-2016, 07:20
Mines manual so would be simpler

Terrano Steve
17-02-2016, 07:50
[QUOTE=kitchenman;311727]You may have emissions problems I am told by my MOT station that newer diesels have a much lower requirement to pass
One of the reasons for the electricary perhaps

Emissions would be my concern to you need to find some one who has recently mot'd early terrano & ask mot centre if that figure would be acceptable for your year.

Madmark
17-02-2016, 08:08
As far as I know diesel have smoke test not an emission test but with manual pump I can adjust them to run leaner for an mot

Barrbeast
17-02-2016, 08:18
I'm with Mark, far as I know diesels are just a smoke test, not emissions.

arcascomp
17-02-2016, 08:33
Buy up an older Td with a rotten body or like my old one, thrown a head gasket. Then yuo'll have all the spare parts you need to make it work. Can't see you'd have any issue with the emissions, if you do, run it on veg oil for the week of the MoT, that'll get it through!

Madmark
17-02-2016, 08:36
I could do that but ffew and far between

Timbo_1975
17-02-2016, 14:43
Guys, I've done several mech pump conversions on the TD27, Bosch and Zexel, as have afew others.

I'm not going into the gritty detail of the conversion on here again, PM if you want to know.

ECU and sensors all stay in place, everything works except the ECU doesn't actually control a pump.

Speedo signal comes direct from the gearbox. Don't start butchering wiring, you don't need to.

kitchenman
17-02-2016, 16:49
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Hope they will do, IP is buried ,dave


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Madmark
17-02-2016, 17:23
Awesome thankyou. What year is you truck

kitchenman
17-02-2016, 17:29
see above, or below:doh

Madmark
17-02-2016, 17:43
see above, or below:doh

Doh sorry yeah how did I miss that

kitchenman
17-02-2016, 17:54
You woz clearly dazzled by the picture of the geezer:eek:

Banshee
18-02-2016, 11:13
You woz clearly dazzled by the picture of the geezer:eek:

:lol :lol :lol

Banshee
18-02-2016, 11:18
http://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=40682

That's a good find and an interesting read!!!

Bookmarked :clap

panelbeater
18-02-2016, 12:16
well this might help.
my older sisters boy is still in the taxi game in london.
i have messaged him so i can see if ip is available.
then there is kpm taxies and homerton diesel injection services i think its called,for 2.7 fx4 fx5 ip parts refurbished ip etc.
when i hear i will update.trying for a ip from a taxi.newer taxis i think are 2.2 ford lumps.

Madmark
18-02-2016, 12:56
well this might help.
my older sisters boy is still in the taxi game in london.
i have messaged him so i can see if ip is available.
then there is kpm taxies and homerton diesel injection services i think its called,for 2.7 fx4 fx5 ip parts refurbished ip etc.
when i hear i will update.trying for a ip from a taxi.newer taxis i think are 2.2 ford lumps.

Awesome thanks fella ��

Banshee
18-02-2016, 13:36
Deffo seems like the LTI Fairway FX4 1989 onwards is the one you're looking for :naughty

Thomas61
18-02-2016, 19:25
Hi,
If you draw a blank elsewhere, stumbled across this site a while back. Know nothing about them though. Good luck, sounds like a interesting project.

http://www.taxibreakers.co.uk/

panelbeater
18-02-2016, 20:47
also here.http://www.taxipartslondon.com/