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jims-terrano
18-10-2015, 19:22
Ok guys nearly there with the project but need a little advice.
When your car has no MOT you can drive the car a reasonable distance to a prebooked MOT. So I know that I will need to have it insured but will I need to tax it for this trip as it is currently SORN?
I'm guessing that I probably will need to be taxed too.
spautoparts
18-10-2015, 19:29
Yes it can be driven to a prebooked MOT centre and it does not need to be taxed. You need to have a valid MOT before you can tax a vehicle.
Nearly ready for an MOT ... wow !
When you take it in, make sure it doesn't fail on a windscreen wiper, or something else quite minor, like a bulb, or head light alignment, after all the hard work you have both put in...:nenau
When I knew I was coming back to the Uk with the car at some point, I rang dvla and the police. saying that I had to get the car back to the UK which meant driving it from Plymouth to west Yourkshit with no UK mot and no tax. They said it was ok to drive it as long as I kept my ferry ticket and drove it strait home with no detours and then got it booked in for an MOT before I drove it again.
So I am sure you are ok to just go to the MOT station and back :thumbs
As long as it's booked into a MOT station/garage & is insured you can legally drive it there & back
Mobieus_uk
19-10-2015, 08:52
check your insurance, in the unlikely event that your were to crash or have a accident you need to know your covered, driving without insurance is definitely an offence
jims-terrano
19-10-2015, 08:55
check your insurance, in the unlikely event that your were to crash or have a accident you need to know your covered, driving without insurance is definitely an offence
Yeah when I take the insurance out I'll stipulate that but good advice just the same.
Blocky10
19-10-2015, 21:00
I was under the impression if it failed you couldn't take it away unless on a trailer. ??
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emjaybee
19-10-2015, 22:19
I was under the impression if it failed you couldn't take it away unless on a trailer. ??
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No, as long as it is pre-booked, you can drive there and straight home.
:thumb2
solarman216
19-10-2015, 23:15
I was under the impression if it failed you couldn't take it away unless on a trailer. ??
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yes I think you would be correct on certain fail points, like no brakes (this could occur after the tester put full force on the pedal and a pipe burst) but other stuff like drop links, slack wheel bearings etc it would not apply, but I could be wrong, but common sense says it ought to be, Rick
Mobieus_uk
20-10-2015, 18:08
A Fail is a Fail, to return home all 4 wheels need to be off the ground, so you cant even use a spectical lift or be towed, doesn't even matter if you had a few weeks left on your current mot as the new Fail will make you old MOT instantly expire
advisories however, as we all know don't count and are suggestions of repair that maybe needed on a rainy day and should come with smiley faces on the certificate
emjaybee
20-10-2015, 19:15
A Fail is a Fail, to return home all 4 wheels need to be off the ground, so you cant even use a spectical lift or be towed, doesn't even matter if you had a few weeks left on your current mot as the new Fail will make you old MOT instantly expire
advisories however, as we all know don't count and are suggestions of repair that maybe needed on a rainy day and should come with smiley faces on the certificate
I'm afraid you are incorrect on this one. This May my van failed, I drove it home and then back two days later to have the part fitted. All perfectly legally.
:nenau
don simon
20-10-2015, 19:28
I'm afraid you are incorrect on this one. This May my van failed, I drove it home and then back two days later to have the part fitted. All perfectly legally.
:nenau
Interstingly both of you might be correct. :nenau
The web site clearly states when you can't drive https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
Driving a vehicle that’s failed
You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out, except to:
have the failed defects fixed
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment
It says nothing about driving home after a failure. I would expect that a bald spare tyre and a broken indicator will be ok to drive home/to be fixed/to the test centre. A serious failure of the braking system is likely to be grounded on the spot.
All seems a bit of a grey area to me.
emjaybee
20-10-2015, 20:25
Ooh we love grey areas.
:clap
Wasn't there a recent book and film about a lot of grey areas?
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick again?
:augie
Blocky10
20-10-2015, 20:28
Ooh we love grey areas.
:clap
Wasn't there a recent book and film about a lot of grey areas?
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick again?
:augie
No, I think you are still on the right track.
Getting shafted I think it's called [emoji13]
Ian
emjaybee
20-10-2015, 22:15
No, I think you are still on the right track.
Getting shafted I think it's called [emoji13]
Ian
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
solarman216
20-10-2015, 22:55
Lets face it, the system is stacked up against you, I guarantee that even if you were driving a brand new motor and got stopped, that they will be able to find something to do you on if they really wanted, Rick
jims-terrano
21-10-2015, 16:46
Think you're right there Rick.
Main thing is I'm covered for my trip to the MOT station.
Terrano Steve
23-10-2015, 09:31
Lets face it, the system is stacked up against you, I guarantee that even if you were driving a brand new motor and got stopped, that they will be able to find something to do you on if they really wanted, Rick
Company I once worked for had a brand new lorry pulled by vosa (may have been known as ministry back then) mud flaps were too high as fitted by Volvo.
When ever same inspector pulled any of the vehicles after that he would remind drivers of this and said he would be able to find fault with any vehicle he wished
I might be able to help given my profession. Legally you can drive your vehicle to a pre arranged MOT test and should it fail you can drive it back home or to a garage for the repairs to be fixed. Once the repairs are fixed you should book another appointment for a further MOT (shouldn't require a full retest and in most cases will be free if completed within 10 working days. Garages now stipulate that Saturday is a working day). Once this is booked you can drive it to the MOT testing station.
If your vehicle fails and is deemed dangerous the MOT tester should stipulate that it is not to be removed unless on a trailer etc.
Here is the full legal stuff if your really bored:
Regulations 6(2) and 6(3) of the Motor Vehicle (Test) Regulations 1981 provides a list of exemptions for vehicles that should have an MOT certificate, but can be used on a road without one in certain circumstances. Provisions exist for vehicles which do not need to be taxed in similar circumstances.
6(2) Pursuant to section 47(6) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 the Secretary of State hereby exempts from section 47(1) the use of a vehicle (that is of a type that should normally have an MOT certificate)
(a) as follows
(i) for the purpose of submitting it by previous arrangement for, or bringing it away from, an MOT examination, or
(ii) in the course of an MOT examination, for the purpose of taking it to, or bringing it away from, any place where a part of the examination is to be or, as the case may be, has been, carried out, or of carrying out any part of the examination, the person so using it being either
(A) an MOT examiner, or a Ministry Inspector or an inspector appointed by a designated council, or
(B) a person acting under the personal direction of an examiner, a Ministry Inspector or a designated Council, or
(iii) where a test certificate is refused on an examination
(A) for the purpose of delivering it by previous arrangement at, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the ground of which the test certificate was refused; or
(B) for the purpose of delivering it, by towing it, to a place where the vehicle is to be broken up;
(b) for any purpose for which the vehicle is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 (an order allowing special vehicles on the road);
(c) where the vehicle has been imported into Great Britain, for the purpose of its being driven after arrival in Great Britain on the journey from the place where it has arrived in Great Britain to a place of residence of the owner or driver of the vehicle;
(d) for the purpose of removing it in pursuance of section 3 of the Refuse Disposal (Amenity) Act 1978, of moving or removing it in pursuance of regulations under section 20 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967 as altered by the Removal and Disposal of Vehicles (Alteration of Enactments) Order 1967, or of removing it from a parking place in pursuance of an order under section 35(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967, an order relating to a parking place designated under section 45, 50 thereof, or a provision of a designation order having effect by virtue of section 53(3) thereof;
(e) where the vehicle has been detained or seized by a police constable, for police purposes connected with such detention or seizure;
(f) where the vehicle has been removed, detained or seized or condemned as forfeited under any provision of the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979 for any purpose authorised by an officer of Customs and Excise;
(g) for the purpose of testing it by a motor trader as defined in section 16(8) of the Vehicles (Excise) Act 1971, to whom a trade licence has been issued under that section, during the course of, or after completion of repairs carried out to that vehicle by that motor trader.
6(3) Pursuant to section 44(7) the Secretary of State hereby exempts from section 44(1) the use of a vehicle on any island in any area mainly surrounded by water, being an island or area from which motor vehicles, unless constructed for special purposes can at no time be conveniently driven to a road in any other part of Great Britain by reason of the absence of any bridge, tunnel, ford or other way suitable for the passage of such motor vehicle;
(a) in relation to a vehicle in any of Classes I to VIA, this Regulation does not apply to any of the following islands, namely, the Isle of Wight, the islands of Arran, Bute, Great Cumbrae, Islay, Lewis, Mainland (Orkney), Mainland (Shetland), Mull, North Uist and Skye and
(b) in relation to a vehicle in Class VII this Regulation does not apply in any of the following islands, namely, the Isle of Wight, the Islands of Lewis, Mainland (Orkney), Mainland (Shetland) and Skye.
In this regulation, test means an examination of a vehicle in relation to the prescribed statutory requirements conducted
(i) by a person appointed to act as an inspector under section 45 Road Traffic Act 1988, or a person authorised as an examiner or acting on his behalf, or
(ii) by a person on behalf of a police authority in England or Wales, or
(iii) by a person on behalf of a police authority or a joint police committee in Scotland.
:thumb2
emjaybee
23-10-2015, 14:04
Glad that's cleared up then...
:bow
...that just leaves one question...
...What IS your profession?
:nenau
solarman216
23-10-2015, 19:06
Glad that's cleared up then...
:bow
...that just leaves one question...
...What IS your profession?
:nenau
I know but am not saying, but his reply is about what I said a good few posts earlier, Rick
Law is all you need to know lol.
harlowmaverick
23-10-2015, 21:29
Batman??
harlowmaverick
23-10-2015, 21:30
Rumpole??
harlowmaverick
23-10-2015, 21:31
:augie
emjaybee
23-10-2015, 22:58
Oh blimey, it's the rozzers!
:eek:
jims-terrano
23-10-2015, 23:13
Ok guys nearly there with the project but need a little advice.
When your car has no MOT you can drive the car a reasonable distance to a prebooked MOT. So I know that I will need to have it insured but will I need to tax it for this trip as it is currently SORN?
I'm guessing that I probably will need to be taxed too.
So I don't need tax right:roflol::roflol::roflol:
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