Hi Folks.

[Dave_Askham]

I just wanted to pop a message on here to say hello to all.

I've just found this forum, read it for 10 mins decided you looked like a great bunch and were worth every penny of a crisp 10 note. So I'm a fully paid up member of the Nissan 4x4 club - even though I own and run a Nissan Note !!

I'm just doing some digging about trying to find the 'low down' on Nissan Terrano 2's - as I have provisionally agreed to swap my car for one so her indoors can tow a horse trailer...... I know, I'm a soft touch....

Any advice on model, engine size etc would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

:thumbs

[don simon]

Welcome, normally there'd be a request for photos but I see you haven't got the Terrano yet.
Basically the Terrano comes in two flavours the 3.0l and 2.7 tdi. I have a 2.7 for numerous reasons. I like the fact that it doesn't have a timing belt or chain, it's gear driven, secondly it's the same engine as used in London taxis so should be reliable and thirdly I can bung cooking oil in it to run it.
I think the 3.0l have a bit more power and delivery of power is a bit more refined.

There's probably more to it than that, but that's how I arrived at owning a 2.7l and love it.

[Dave_Askham]

Thanks for your swift reply and warm welcome,

I've been debating the choice of 2.7 / 3.0 in the first instance, followed swiftly between the SWB or LWB conundrum. I was not aware the 2.7 was gear driven, that is a bonus.

I also can't make my mind up on the Auto / Manual gearbox, my Mrs has an Audi A3 TDi auto and my Nissan Note is Auto (inherited from my late Grandad) - both of which are a pleasure to drive, but I know Auto boxes can be a real headache. Could you or anyone else offer advice on +'s and -'s of an Auto??

[rustic]

Hi Dave, and welcome to the best site for Terranos, and Mavericks (also Patrols).
We know more about these trucks than all the Nissan dealers put together.:thumb2
I have the Ford Maverick, Nissan Terrano in disguise, and.... here we go again.:augie I have had this since new for over 20 years ... Why? ..
Because if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I have done a lot of preventative maintenace on it, including waxoyling etc.
We have many cheap fixes, and guides on fixing it, also what to look for, so now you are a member, take a look at us.
We are a friendly bunch... too friendly at times as we talk about our selves a lot, and our other hobbies.
We have several members who no longer have Terranos, but like the fellowship.
Again Welcome.

Rustic

[don simon]

Thanks for your swift reply and warm welcome,

I've been debating the choice of 2.7 / 3.0 in the first instance, followed swiftly between the SWB or LWB conundrum. I was not aware the 2.7 was gear driven, that is a bonus.

I also can't make my mind up on the Auto / Manual gearbox, my Mrs has an Audi A3 TDi auto and my Nissan Note is Auto (inherited from my late Grandad) - both of which are a pleasure to drive, but I know Auto boxes can be a real headache. Could you or anyone else offer advice on +'s and -'s of an Auto??
LWB or SWB? I think you'll be better off with an LWB as a tow car as it's longer, personally I prefer the LWB as I sleep in it from time to time.

Manual and Auto each have their fans, in fact there's a whole thread here that will answer your question...... or not :confused:
http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25313&highlight=automatic

[Lazy-Ferret]

Welcome, normally there'd be a request for photos but I see you haven't got the Terrano yet.
Basically the Terrano comes in two flavours the 3.0l and 2.7 tdi. I have a 2.7 for numerous reasons. I like the fact that it doesn't have a timing belt or chain, it's gear driven, secondly it's the same engine as used in London taxis so should be reliable and thirdly I can bung cooking oil in it to run it.
I think the 3.0l have a bit more power and delivery of power is a bit more refined.

There's probably more to it than that, but that's how I arrived at owning a 2.7l and love it.

Make that "3 flavours", don't forget the poor unloved 2.4 petrol ones as well!!!

Main advice from me is, if you are towing bigger things like Nags in boxes, then don't go for the auto gearbox, it has a lower towing capacity, and seems to not enjoy towing. I know of 2 people in Kent who have left the joy of Nissan ownership after buying (ab)used Autos, and killing them towing.

[don simon]

Make that "3 flavours", don't forget the poor unloved 2.4 petrol ones as well!!!

Main advice from me is, if you are towing bigger things like Nags in boxes, then don't go for the auto gearbox, it has a lower towing capacity, and seems to not enjoy towing. I know of 2 people in Kent who have left the joy of Nissan ownership after buying (ab)used Autos, and killing them towing.
Isn't there a very good reason that they're unloved? But yes, you're 100% correct, I forgot about the high fuel consuming lower towing ability 2.4 petrol. :D

[Dave_Askham]

Boom - and the replies come rolling in !!!!

I like rustic's comment that the site members know more than the 'main dealers' - or should that be 'main stealers' put together - I have no doubt that this is 100% accurate !!

I've also got a VW transporter T4 - 2000 model, owned from new - 187,000 miles and still going strong, so I know all about owning and loving a vehicle for the long term, She's like an old friend and I could never part with her !!! I'm buying a Terrano to save abusing the van towing the bloody horse trailer !!!!

I've just read the Auto / Manual thread and I think my mind is made up, it would be nice to continue to have a lazy auto, but the towing capacity is not sufficient for the trailer, Dobin and Dobin #2 - so Manual it is, I like the sound of a LWB too, I'm used to the van so not scared of a 'larger' vehicle.... and I have 2 kids, my daughter nearly 3 and my son 6 months, so the more space the better !!

It appears that my choices are narrowing quite quickly !!

thanks to all for your input thus far.... now to have a look about and see what's available and at what price.....

[bry]

Howdy,Which ever model you choose.Just take time to check all the places where the tin worm likes to feast.Sills,boot floor,rear seat belt anchor points,front x member under the radiator, to mention a few.

[Banshee]

Make that "3 flavours", don't forget the poor unloved 2.4 petrol ones as well!!!

Main advice from me is, if you are towing bigger things like Nags in boxes, then don't go for the auto gearbox, it has a lower towing capacity, and seems to not enjoy towing. I know of 2 people in Kent who have left the joy of Nissan ownership after buying (ab)used Autos, and killing them towing.

There's none left, Rick's got them all parked in his yard :lol

[Lazy-Ferret]

One of the nice things about the LWB T2, is it does not feel like a large car to drive, I have to ration the wife driving mine, as once she gets her mits on it, I struggle to get it back...

Being short, she has the seat right forward, where as I have it right back, then because the electric mirrors are so easy to adjust, she changes them. After she has driven it, she leaves the seat right forward, so I struggle to get in, and end up, because of the lifts, stuck half in and half out, trying to slide the seat back. This then becomes the excuse of "Well as it's all set up for me, I might as well drive this time!!" Even off roading the other weekend, she acts all, "Oh I am so nervous of this or that bit of mud", then once in the driving seat is ploughing through the tank traps causing mini tsunami's.

So in short, don't have any fears of the LWB, they drive just like a car, even when lifted..

[jims-terrano]

Had my oldest lwb since 2002 and it's still going strong. Towed alsorts and carried alsorts inside and on it, it's been a proper work horse. As said watch for the tin worm, take a look at my project thread in my signature to prove the tin worm is there but with a little work it can be banished. Manual for towing heavier loads for sure but I can't wait to get behind the wheel of my auto. 2.7 is pretty bullet proof but not heard anything particularly bad about the 3.0 either.

Check out the downloads in quick links for some cheap fixes too.

Good luck with the search.

[Dave_Askham]

So here I am bored at work scouting around on the internet.... and I have come across this.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281786111702?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Looks pretty good to me from the outside....

[Paultrol]

Morning and welcome.
Stick your finger in the air to em all and go for a TROL you won't be disappointed. :D
TROL POWER.

[Dave_Askham]

I assume by TROL you mean Patrol??? - I've not really considered one tbh.... but from first view they look like they are twice the price !!

what would be the advantage of a patrol over the terrano's??

[jims-terrano]

Very true trols are nice motors Paul.

That Terrano on ebay looks smart doesn't it. Only problem I can see is that it is the large tax bracket, £500 but the slightly earlier are £285 and earlier still are cheaper but you can guarantee the really early ones will need welding. A very nice looking Terrano just the same and I prefer those headlamps with the chrome grill. My old 05 plate had that style and I think they are a lot better lamps too.
By the way if you get a Terrano with that style of alloy wheel I have one with abrand new tyre on it that I'd like to sell.

[emjaybee]

My wife has horses, she uses my 3.0Di LWB 5 Dr manual. Once a month she tows a Ifor fully loaded with hay, the equivalent of two sturdy nags. She loves it, I was hate her using it, she always gets it muddy.

ON THE INSIDE.

:mad::mad::mad:

Oh, yes, and she never feeds it!

Welcome to the forum, most of them are nuts on here...

...but in a good way.

:augie

[rustic]

So here I am bored at work scouting around on the internet.... and I have come across this.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281786111702?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Looks pretty good to me from the outside....

Several things to look for...
Front wings above those plastic sheel arches, can show a few bubbles.
Check sills especially near the rear, look on the inner sills too.
Front cross member behind front bumper.
Lift the carpets under the second row of seats, as they can rust through where the seat belt anchors are, and look at the seat belt points in the rear wheel arches too.
Rustic

[Paultrol]

I assume by TROL you mean Patrol??? - I've not really considered one tbh.... but from first view they look like they are twice the price !!

what would be the advantage of a patrol over the terrano's??



yes the mighty PATROL.
oh lets start a war :lol
The advantages. room,comfort,refinement and capability :augie
They might be twice the price but they were twice the price new:thumbs

[emjaybee]

yes the mighty PATROL.
oh lets start a war :lol
The advantages. room,comfort,refinement and capability :augie
They might be twice the price but they were twice the price new:thumbs

Nah, you wanna 3.0 Terrano, same engine as a 'Trol, but less bulk to lug around!

:augie

[briggie]

if you can find one , you want a 2.7td ....... not tdi ....... virtually indestructible engine , no complicated electronics ....... and will run on veg oil :thumb2

[don simon]

Very true trols are nice motors Paul.

That Terrano on ebay looks smart doesn't it. Only problem I can see is that it is the large tax bracket, £500 but the slightly earlier are £285 and earlier still are cheaper but you can guarantee the really early ones will need welding. A very nice looking Terrano just the same and I prefer those headlamps with the chrome grill. My old 05 plate had that style and I think they are a lot better lamps too.
By the way if you get a Terrano with that style of alloy wheel I have one with abrand new tyre on it that I'd like to sell.
I'm confused on the VED costs here, I certainly didn't pay £500 on my 2005 plate. A quick check tells me I paid £290. Interweb says the change relates to pre and post 2001 vehicles.
Nice looking vehicle there Dave and a good price, I much prefer the black interior.

EDIT:
if you can find one , you want a 2.7td ....... not tdi ....... virtually indestructible engine , no complicated electronics ....... and will run on veg oil
The TDi runs on veg too, doesn't it? :confused: Doesn't it?

[briggie]

some members have had their 2.7 td since new ..... over 20 years I believe :augie

[rustic]

some members have had their 2.7 td since new ..... over 20 years I believe :augie

Yes I have heard a rumour about that...:augie

:lol:lol:lol

[briggie]

I'm confused on the VED costs here, I certainly didn't pay £500 on my 2005 plate. A quick check tells me I paid £290. Interweb says the change relates to pre and post 2001 vehicles.
Nice looking vehicle there Dave and a good price, I much prefer the black interior.

EDIT:

The TDi runs on veg too, doesn't it? :confused: Doesn't it?

yep :thumb2

[jims-terrano]

I'm confused on the VED costs here, I certainly didn't pay £500 on my 2005 plate. A quick check tells me I paid £290. Interweb says the change relates to pre and post 2001 vehicles.
Nice looking vehicle there Dave and a good price, I much prefer the black interior.

EDIT:

The TDi runs on veg too, doesn't it? :confused: Doesn't it?

Check the VED and you will see the tax band changed around 2005 and 2006, when it changed it went from the £290 to the £500 band. My 05 plate was in the £285 band as it was then but obviously gone up a fiver to £290.

Yes the tax bands changed around 2001 think it is around the £200 mark for the early trucks, both of mine will be in that band.

Depending upon the fuel pump tdi's will run on veg too. The td stopped uk sales around 1995 ish and yes it has less electronics but chances of finding one in good condition are very slim.

Dave will be getting very confused with all this information over load.

[don simon]

Yes the tax bands changed around 2001 think it is around the Yes the tax bands changed around 2001 think it is around the £200 mark for the early trucks, both of mine will be in that band. mark for the early trucks, both of mine will be in that band.
Closer to £230, I can't see anything beyond the 2001 date change on the DVLA site (https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-and-light-goods-vehicles-registered-before-1-march-2001). Looks like I got lucky with the 05 plate.
That would go some way to explaining why the linked Terrano above is so cheap.

[Barrbeast]

I'm gonna stay out of the Trol or Terrano debate as I'm obviously gonna be biased ;)

With regard to engines, don't discount the 3.0 because of the timing chain - the 3.0 is a hybrid timing gear/chain and all the chain drives is the camshaft. As a result it's understressed and shouldn't need replaced according to the Aussie's (same engine used in the Trols and the Aussie's know about Trols).

Early 3.0s had a bad rep but were sorted by the time they were used in the Terrano.

Only real downside is they won't run veg oil.

[Dave_Askham]

Well it looks as though I put the cat amongst the pigeons with my question about the advantages of a TROL over a Terrano, I heard the collective 'sigh' from the masses as soon as I hit the enter key !!!

Thanks to all who have responded to my thread, your info, insight and advice is certainly very welcome.

Jim's comments on the VED cost of the terrano I saw on ebay are quite correct £500 per year tax - OUCH !!!! I think I'll give that one a wide berth, however it looks as though an 05 plate is £290 which is a little more acceptable. I'll have to unleash the power of the internet to see what I can find.

again, thanks to rustic for his advice on checking for iron worm, I have seen Jim's project thread and seen the fun that can be had finding and eradicating the little blighters, if I can avoid a load of grinder / welding time I'd prefer that, I don't have enough time as it is without buying ANOTHER project.

As for the veg oil debate, in all honesty it's something I had considered with my VW t4 van, but getting WVO and filtering and buggering about is just a load of hassle I can do without, I bought a little vw polo with LPG fitted for my daily commute, that was cheaper than anything I found in the end, and I didn't smell like a fish and chip shop rolling down the road !!!

again, thanks to all, and I'll keep you all informed of the progress and post some pictures of my purchase as and when it's here...

[Dave_Askham]

I'm gonna stay out of the Trol or Terrano debate as I'm obviously gonna be biased ;)

With regard to engines, don't discount the 3.0 because of the timing chain - the 3.0 is a hybrid timing gear/chain and all the chain drives is the camshaft. As a result it's understressed and shouldn't need replaced according to the Aussie's (same engine used in the Trols and the Aussie's know about Trols).

Early 3.0s had a bad rep but were sorted by the time they were used in the Terrano.

Only real downside is they won't run veg oil.

When you say Early 3.0 engines, what year would they change to a 'newer' engine?

[rustic]

...
Thanks to all who have responded to my thread, your info, insight and advice is certainly very welcome...


Dave, I think you are going to fit in very well with this club, good luck with your hunt for a suitable vehicle.
Having spent your £10 before buying one, you could easily save more than that in the long run, if not already.:thumb2
Most members buy one, have a few problems, look for a suitable forum, and then start to fix it with our advice.

Welcome onboard.:thumb2

Rustic

[Dave_Askham]

Dave, I think you are going to fit in very well with this club, good luck with your hunt for a suitable vehicle.
Having spent your £10 before buying one, you could easily save more than that in the long run, if not already.:thumb2
Most members buy one, have a few problems, look for a suitable forum, and then start to fix it with our advice.

Welcome onboard.:thumb2

Rustic

I've already saved it, I almost bought one with £500 a year Tax !!!! :naughty

[Lazy-Ferret]

<<<SNIP>>>

As for the veg oil debate, in all honesty it's something I had considered with my VW t4 van, but getting WVO and filtering and buggering about is just a load of hassle I can do without, I bought a little vw polo with LPG fitted for my daily commute, that was cheaper than anything I found in the end, and I didn't smell like a fish and chip shop rolling down the road !!!

again, thanks to all, and I'll keep you all informed of the progress and post some pictures of my purchase as and when it's here...

Many of us just use brand new cooking oil straight from the can, so no need to worry about filtering, just changing the fuel filter on the car each service.

With cooking oil from Costco/Bookers etc. at £12.30 for 20l, I can put up with smelling like a fish and chip shop, especially as I only smell it when I reverse into a parking space.. Actually I say I can put up with it, the only time it is really a problem is when we are on a late night KSAR shout, and after a couple of miles crawling along on a road search, we all start to feel really hungry... :lol I am not allowed to be the lead vehicle any more as the searchers find it hard to concentrate on looking around when their tummies are rumbling :D

[Barrbeast]

When you say Early 3.0 engines, what year would they change to a 'newer' engine?

Only applies to the Trols as they were sorted by the time Nissan started putting them into the Terrano (around 2003 I think). Some of the earlier 3.0 Trols are fine but it's very much pot luck.

[emjaybee]

Closer to £230, I can't see anything beyond the 2001 date change on the DVLA site (https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-and-light-goods-vehicles-registered-before-1-march-2001). Looks like I got lucky with the 05 plate.
That would go some way to explaining why the linked Terrano above is so cheap.

Just renewed tax on my '05 T2, £290!

:thumb2

[don simon]

Just renewed tax on my '05 T2, £290!

:thumb2
The only benefit I can find with paying that much is the muppets who have a pop at me when cycling about not paying road tax!!! :eek: :doh

[Dave_Askham]

Just renewed tax on my '05 T2, £290!

:thumb2

I have had a look at the DVLA tax related web page and this is a caveat at the bottom of one of the tables....

http://carfueldata.dft.gov.uk/

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

which is why some are £290 and some are £500 +

[emjaybee]

I have had a look at the DVLA tax related web page and this is a caveat at the bottom of one of the tables....

http://carfueldata.dft.gov.uk/

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

which is why some are £290 and some are £500 +

Congratulations!

You've just put something back into the forum!

:clap:clap:clap

Thanks for that, I reckon that there's a few of us on here who were wondering how that difference in tax came about.

:thumb2

[don simon]

Autotrader says http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510027441606?page=2&radius=1500&model=terrano_ii&postcode=ch14en&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&engine-size-cars=2-6l_to_2-9l&sort=default&make=nissan&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p

[Banshee]

Loving this thread :thumb2

[Dave_Askham]

Congratulations!

You've just put something back into the forum!

:clap:clap:clap

Thanks for that, I reckon that there's a few of us on here who were wondering how that difference in tax came about.

:thumb2

The first of many I hope....

[bash 856]

Hi im new to the club i wondering if any body has hsd this problem of between 30mph and 60 mph the steering shakes and can fee a vibration underboth front seats any help would be gratefull

[Lazy-Ferret]

Hi im new to the club i wondering if any body has hsd this problem of between 30mph and 60 mph the steering shakes and can fee a vibration underboth front seats any help would be gratefull

I think you will find most votes will go for warn Prop Shaft UJ's, if you have already checked the wheel balancing.

[jims-terrano]

Eyup Bash and welcome aboard. If yours is a truck built after 2000 then I reckon it’s likely to be you front propshaft. I removed mine until I got it sorted, it disabled 4wd but made the truck more comfortable and a relatively easy way to eliminate a lot of things.
The pre 2000 trucks had auto locking hubs so the front transmission did not turn all the time and also the UJs had grease nipples on to so hardly ever if at all gave problems. After 2000 nissan gradually moved over to fixed hubs which by their nature turns all the front transmission from the rotation of the front wheels so therefore caused more wear and tear especially UJs that no longer came with grease nipples.
I replaced both UJs on the front propshaft which didn’t fix the problem even though the bearings in the UJs were rusted out. My issue and I’ve seen it since was a sliding joint on the propshaft. Sadly this could not be replaced so I got a shaft from an earlier truck which fixed it. With mine I could feel movement and hear a small click when I reached under the truck and grabbed the shaft and shook it.

Good luck

[Thomas61]

Hello,

Apologies if already mentioned but the below link for MOT history is always worth a look.

Good luck on your search and a Happy New Year :thumb2

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

[ron]

ive been looking for a haynes manuel for my terrano 2gsx anyone got any ideas.

[jims-terrano]

Hi Ron and welcome aboard. That’ll be because Haynes don’t do a manual for these trucks. Think there’s a download on here but you’d need full membership to have access.
Have you got a specific problem?

[AlehUnityt]

Hello i am new here and i want to share my experience of riding Nissan

[Banshee]

Hello i am new here and i want to share my experience of riding Nissan

Hi Mate

Welcome aboard, you'll have to pay the £10 membership fee before you'll be able to post in other parts of the forum. :thumb2

[Jimbovsky]

Hello,

I have a question. Any of you people know the garage where they know how to do a swap in D22 from D22 engine to 2.7 TDI Terrano?

The best if it will be in North West.

Regards

[Banshee]

Hello,



I have a question. Any of you people know the garage where they know how to do a swap in D22 from D22 engine to 2.7 TDI Terrano?



The best if it will be in North West.



RegardsYou're after Des and the gang at West Yorkshire Engine Services, top group of guys there and will always spend time on the phone with you talking the issue through!!!

[macabethiel]

I am a die hard auto driver but accept that it does often reduce the overall towing ability (weight) due to the extra load on the transmission when pulling away.

[elty001]

Hello,

I have a question. Any of you people know the garage where they know how to do a swap in D22 from D22 engine to 2.7 TDI Terrano?

The best if it will be in North West.

Regards

Google Navara.net
Loads of help and advice regarding the engine swap.