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AlexD333
01-06-2015, 19:52
So got my cb fitted today, don't understand all the dials and adjusters but it changed colour :naughty :augie
On the way home on the motorway I heard two people talking about cheese, Stilton and Edam... I Kidd you not.. :lol:lol
The set up he has done, he reckons I've got 10 miles :nenau
It's pushing 6 watts? :nenau
After a quick splash
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AlexD333
01-06-2015, 21:16
70 quid for the lot, not too shabby.
Cb is worth that alone :thumb2
Thomas-the-Terrano2
01-06-2015, 23:31
wow love look of that cb, has a ham feel to it.
must say thats a great position for it too. always been my plan to put
it there on old t2, then on trol there was a spare din under head unit.
upto now on t2 only had it in cubby box loose, but there on dash is
good for seeing display ans suspect speaker output.
Thomas-the-Terrano2
01-06-2015, 23:45
would like to know what some of those buttons do.
have just searched for spec and just little wary as some
mention am as well as fm. for uk there is the original fm 40
from the 27/81 spec and the euro 40 fm added later. mine is
classed as 80 channel, 40 on uk and 40 on europe band.
also some spec suggests 10Watt output option be careful again
as in uk legal is only 4 watts as far as aware still.
for convoy work even fraction of 4 watts would be fine.
looks like full height stinger aerial, you might want to get a
shorter version as will be hitting trees and bushes....
would like to know what some of those buttons do.
have just searched for spec and just little wary as some
mention am as well as fm. for uk there is the original fm 40
from the 27/81 spec and the euro 40 fm added later. mine is
classed as 80 channel, 40 on uk and 40 on europe band.
also some spec suggests 10Watt output option be careful again
as in uk legal is only 4 watts as far as aware still.
for convoy work even fraction of 4 watts would be fine.
looks like full height stinger aerial, you might want to get a
shorter version as will be hitting trees and bushes....
I was doing 90 watts on the Laning weekend :lol
My burner weren't half getting hot
Alex have you had the Aerial SWR'd correctly otherwise you could damage the CB
advice from uncle briggie .........
check swr regularly ( keep it as low as possible )
learn to swear a lot
play music very loud on air
get a big linear amplifier ( 200w plus )
ignore everyone
you should fit in nicely then
exosteve
02-06-2015, 09:52
Banshee. It my be good to use burner when trying to reach people miles away.
But when your 4 feet from each other your voice is so amplified it gets distorted and difficult to hear all that's said.
Can you not turn it off when lanin?
I got a 50 X burner but never fitted it. Might try it out.
Banshee. It my be good to use burner when trying to reach people miles away.
But when your 4 feet from each other your voice is so amplified it gets distorted and difficult to hear all that's said.
Can you not turn it off when lanin?
I got a 50 X burner but never fitted it. Might try it out.
But I like coming over the top of everyone :lol
exosteve
02-06-2015, 10:15
But I like coming over the top of everyone :lol
Ewwww
Banshee. It my be good to use burner when trying to reach people miles away.
But when your 4 feet from each other your voice is so amplified it gets distorted and difficult to hear all that's said.
Can you not turn it off when lanin?
I got a 50 X burner but never fitted it. Might try it out.
The burner won't amplify the volume but the power output. Likely he is talking to close to the mic :thumb2
have just searched for spec and just little wary as some
mention am as well as fm. for uk there is the original fm 40
from the 27/81 spec and the euro 40 fm added later. mine is
classed as 80 channel, 40 on uk and 40 on europe band.
l again
as in uk legal is only 4 watts as far as aware still.
for convoy work even fraction of 4 watts would be fine.
I believe now you can use AM and SSB on EU 40 channels now with 10w PEP and even maybe on UK 40 which is more inline with what Europe can use. :clap
FM is still 4watts but the chances of actually being caught and fined for using more are basicly zero.
FormerSmurf
02-06-2015, 11:35
I don't use CB (yet), but design wireless data networks of different kinds.
Would that would be four watts EIRP, so the total output from the final point? The antenna could add gain, so as a result you'd need to down-power the transmitter. Then the feeder cable (from radio to aE) will add decibel loss if it is a few feet long...
I tend to find it easier to work in dBm, even though it's algorithmic it is easier to calculate total power outputs.
I believe it is from the final point but they never do a exact 4w maybe 3.8 or 3.9 plus the antennas are not usually the most efficient being just a 1/4 wave antenna on most vehicles. I think you can't use a beam antenna on CB but many do for long distance stuff on SSB.
Ofcom don't really care much about the license free stuff anyway as long as you don't cause problems to others with interference.
FormerSmurf
02-06-2015, 12:08
With it being 27MHz, it would still be classed as HF band, meaning you could construct a half wavelength horizontal dipole for it, giving it epic range. Wouldn't work too well at night though.
I used to do voice comms in the Army, so HF was one of my favourite mediums to experiment with. 27MHz is quite high up in the HF band, so not very commonly used for military voice application. We favoured 2-5 MHz with SSB.
With it being 27MHz, it would still be classed as HF band, meaning you could construct a half wavelength horizontal dipole for it, giving it epic range. Wouldn't work too well at night though.
I used to do voice comms in the Army, so HF was one of my favourite mediums to experiment with. 27MHz is quite high up in the HF band, so not very commonly used for military voice application. We favoured 2-5 MHz with SSB.
certainly could, I wanted to join the signals when I was younger but in the end didn't think I would fit into the Army way.
I have my amateur radio license and I've a owned a handful of the older military HF sets such as clansman prc-320, Racal 4051 and Philips MEL PRC-2000. :)
AlexD333
02-06-2015, 12:49
I was doing 90 watts on the Laning weekend :lol
My burner weren't half getting hot
Alex have you had the Aerial SWR'd correctly otherwise you could damage the CB
He plugged something in to it, and it was set at 1.1 I think... In the red is not good? :nenau
FormerSmurf
02-06-2015, 13:00
certainly could, I wanted to join the signals when I was younger but in the end didn't think I would fit into the Army way.
I have my amateur radio license and I've a owned a handful of the older military HF sets such as clansman prc-320, Racal 4051 and Philips MEL PRC-2000. :)
I've used the PRC-320 with a military phone-patch service, some 125 miles away. Have also sent data over 150 miles on one. Great bits of kit if you've got patience, masts, and a few hundred metres of copper cable!
He plugged something in to it, and it was set at 1.1 I think... In the red is not good? :nenau
He has used a SWR meter then Alex & the SWR is spot on:thumbs now after looking at your pic's i'm going to see if I have room under the top of the centre dash to put a couple of small bolts to mount mine as i'm not screwing it into the main dash if not it's going in the cubby hole & a fascia will have to be made up:augie
He plugged something in to it, and it was set at 1.1 I think... In the red is not good? :nenau
Yeah that's a decent SWR happy days, just remember to not thwang it on the drive thru's :doh
exosteve
02-06-2015, 19:56
Can somebody translate the last three posts please:lol
exosteve
02-06-2015, 19:58
Oh was just looking at last three on first page:augie
The Patrolman
02-06-2015, 20:18
I've read the 23 previous posts and needs to buy me a cb but don't know what you are all on about:nenau
I don't want to hijack this post so comments on my other cb post please. £50 budget to kit out my Troll:thumb2
Thomas-the-Terrano2
02-06-2015, 21:43
I believe now you can use AM and SSB on EU 40 channels now with 10w PEP and even maybe on UK 40 which is more inline with what Europe can use. :clap
FM is still 4watts but the chances of actually being caught and fined for using more are basicly zero.
wow cheers wasnt aware of this, located this section on wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB_radio_in_the_United_Kingdom
SSB and AM legalisation[edit]
Following most other European countries, Ofcom proposed to adopt European Communication Committee Decision (11)031 in October 2013.[19] This would permit the use of Single Sideband and AM operation on the CEPT CB radio band,[20] and Ofcom proceeded with legislation to this effect on 27 June 2014.[21]
Furthermore a recent cross forum/website vote took place and new recommended calling channels have been suggested:[22]
AM - Calling Channel 14 (27.125Mhz)
SSB - Calling Channel 27 (27.275Mhz)
FM - Calling Channel 31 (27.315Mhz)
Over the first weekend of legal AM/SSB (27th, 28, 29 June 2014) a 'Big Multimode Net' event was organised by the UK CB radio community starting at midnight on the morning of 27 June 2014. CB radio operators up and down the UK stayed up late to be part of the event. Many contacts were made and the event was seen as a great success. Some operators made videos and posted them to video sharing sites such as YouTube.[citation needed]
The new AM/SSB legislation only permits the use of new and approved sets, not 'legacy' multimode sets.
AlexD333
02-06-2015, 21:44
Feel free to hijack, this cb chat does my head in... I'm trying to learn.
I was in the Terrano just now listening to some old boys talk about arthritis and their medication crystal clear, however, either they are ignoring me, or they can't hear me... Why would this be? :nenau:nenau:nenau
Thomas-the-Terrano2
02-06-2015, 22:07
if they weren't on breaking channel 19 they might feel were on a private channel effectively.
they might both be a long way away with amps so wont here you. though you might
struggle to enter conversation.
i used to say breaker break until one asks you in to chat, then use courtesy to ask if may join them etc
AlexD333
02-06-2015, 22:09
if they weren't on breaking channel 19 they might feel were on a private channel effectively.
they might both be a long way away with amps so wont here you. though you might
struggle to enter conversation.
i used to say breaker break until one asks you in to chat, then use courtesy to ask if may join them etc
Ah so they may have huge boost? And although I can hear them I am too far away to respond?
solarman216
02-06-2015, 22:53
Can somebody translate the last three posts please:lol
SWR = standing wave ratio, it is a measurement of how much of your available transmitting power is actually being transmitted as opposed to being reflected back down your antenna to damage or blow your output transistors, it is sorted by adjusting the length of your antenna etc, Rick
Blocky10
02-06-2015, 22:58
Aw man. Listening to two strangers talking about their arthritis medication....... [emoji30] that's bad enough but you wanted to join in?!
Somebody....... Help....... Me........ Please....... I need to know why your brakes aren't working.. [emoji55]
solarman216
02-06-2015, 22:59
Ah so they may have huge boost? And although I can hear them I am too far away to respond?
these guys usually have relatively low power but massif directional antenna on high up polls (I mean high up) and they turn them to their mates for a chat, London to Birmingham is easy and if you happen to be in the direct line you will hear both sides of the chat, but your signal will only get usually a few hundred yards, Rick
My old home set up Alex was a 21ft silver rod aerial was on top off a 22ft scaffy pole which was lifted around 5ft off the ground:lol
solarman216
02-06-2015, 23:20
My old home set up Alex was a 21ft silver rod aerial was on top off a 22ft scaffy pole which was lifted around 5ft off the ground:lol
only problem with that is your measly 5 watts was being radiated in all directions including into the ground and the ionosphere, these guys use massif yagi antenna or other such highly directional ones then set it accurately facing the guy he needs to chat with, and visa versa, Rick
AlexD333
03-06-2015, 06:13
Blimey, lots to learn. We are going to west Wycombe hill Friday to have a play :lol
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