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Oldboybob
18-03-2015, 02:41
Hi, I have just returned from buying my first ever Nissan 4x4. It's a 2009 2.8tdi Patrol and I am absolutely in love with it. My old ride was a 1968 Series 2a 109 Land Rover but that is going straight on Ebay! it's fantastic driving in the rain without my legs getting wet ;-) Really pleased with my purchase, it does have a few little issues but nothing too scary. I can't wait to get stuck in and get it out in the mud.

bry
18-03-2015, 06:06
Howdy and welcome.We have a few trol owners here.So they should be able to help you out.

AlexD333
18-03-2015, 07:12
Welcome to the forum buddy, when do we get to see the pics? :naughty

Please refrain from swearing on the forum, l*** r**** can get you banned if your not careful :augie

Why did your legs get wet? Rust or pushing it? :augie

But seriously, you will enjoy it here, a very friendly bunch with some very good banter indeed! :thumb2

zippy656
18-03-2015, 07:55
Did some one say pics??

Welcome to the forum bud. You are most welcome.


Best site ever

supergnome
18-03-2015, 08:53
The Landy will be wanted by some restorer, don't let it go for few quid. David.

Banshee
18-03-2015, 09:20
The Landy will be wanted by some restorer, don't let it go for few quid. David.

Don't tell him that!!!! I was going to offer him £5 :doh

Oldboybob
18-03-2015, 10:40
Legs got wet because it leaked when it rained like all old Landys :augie Absolutely chuffed to bits with the Patrol, got to tackle a front hub seal firstly which is leaking a bit. Then a good clean and rust proof of the chassis as I am going to have this monster a long long time.

Banshee
18-03-2015, 10:42
Legs got wet because it leaked when it rained like all old Landys :augie Absolutely chuffed to bits with the Patrol, got to tackle a front hub seal firstly which is leaking a bit. Then a good clean and rust proof of the chassis as I am going to have this monster a long long time.

If you plan on sticking around you better get your subs paid then matey boy :augie

You would have anyway even if I hadn't of mentioned it, the help and comedy you will get on here is worth £100 a year never mind £10 :lol

Have you met Alex yet? :sly

Oldboybob
18-03-2015, 10:45
I have been trying to join but there is no selectable amount when you go to the join page? I was going to ask if someone could help with that?

Thomas-the-Terrano2
18-03-2015, 11:22
Hi, I have just returned from buying my first ever Nissan 4x4. It's a 2009 2.8tdi Patrol and I am absolutely in love with it. My old ride was a 1968 Series 2a 109 Land Rover but that is going straight on Ebay! it's fantastic driving in the rain without my legs getting wet ;-) Really pleased with my purchase, it does have a few little issues but nothing too scary. I can't wait to get stuck in and get it out in the mud.


good choice in the 6 pot, smooth grunty motor, I rushed into an early 3.0 tdi zd and
paid the price times over.

Miss the space of the old Trol, would have another if was 2.8 or even 4.2....

russell.huffer
18-03-2015, 11:53
Do you mean 1999 as well jealous if you have a 2009 Patrol.

Mine is the later 3.0 and to be honest is a great car I know the ealyer ones had troubles but they did sort this.

Kind regards

Russell.

Banshee
18-03-2015, 12:37
Do you mean 1999 as well jealous if you have a 2009 Patrol.

Mine is the later 3.0 and to be honest is a great car I know the ealyer ones had troubles but they did sort this.

Kind regards

Russell.

I'm sure someone put it on here before but what is the "no-go" era for the 3.0l patrols?

Was it pre 2003 they were knackered?

Oldboybob
18-03-2015, 13:42
Sorry my mistake its a 1999 2.8 tdi!

Barrbeast
18-03-2015, 13:45
Do you mean 1999 as well jealous if you have a 2009 Patrol.

Mine is the later 3.0 and to be honest is a great car I know the ealyer ones had troubles but they did sort this.

Kind regards

Russell.

Yeh definitely 1999 as they swapped the 2.8 for the 3.0 around 2000 :thumbs

I'm sure someone put it on here before but what is the "no-go" era for the 3.0l patrols?

Was it pre 2003 they were knackered?

I've certainly mentioned it a few times :nenau

Yeh Nissan started putting the 3.0 into the Terrano in 2003 by which point they'd sorted the issues with the early 3.0 so anything 2003+ should be fine. That's not to say all pre 2003 3.0 Trols had/have issues (Ianinessex has a 2002 that seems to be fine) but it's ones of that age that had the early (bad) ZD30 engine design that caused the problems and blackened the 3.0 Trol's rep.

I believe there was a recall and mod done to some of the early 3.0's, shortened dipstick (to increase the sump capacity) and something done to the cylinders I think.

Barrbeast
18-03-2015, 13:55
Sorry my mistake its a 1999 2.8 tdi!

Beat me to it!

Welcome by the way from another Trol owner :thumb2

Your leaky hub will actually be an axle seal gone due to excessive swivel hub movement from a duff swivel/hub bearing. The seals on the swivel are really just scrapers to keep dirt and water etc from getting in and contaminating/washing away the grease on the cv - there's no oil in the hub itself.

You want to get a hub rebuild kit, this will include all the bearings and seals required. Axle seal can be a bugger to seat correctly so I just got a garage to do it (took them 3 goes, draining the axle each time!).

Sweety
18-03-2015, 13:55
Hi & welcome:thumbs one thing you won't need to spend any where near as much time fixing the Trol compared to your old Landy:lol

Mr K
18-03-2015, 14:44
Hi and welcome, i've also just joined and have a 99 2.8 patrol :clap awesome trucks, looking for a swb 2.8 to keep it company lol.
Did you buy the swb one that was for sale on ebay in merseyside? Was looking at that one but was too far for me

Oldboybob
18-03-2015, 16:07
Beat me to it!

Welcome by the way from another Trol owner :thumb2

Your leaky hub will actually be an axle seal gone due to excessive swivel hub movement from a duff swivel/hub bearing. The seals on the swivel are really just scrapers to keep dirt and water etc from getting in and contaminating/washing away the grease on the cv - there's no oil in the hub itself.

You want to get a hub rebuild kit, this will include all the bearings and seals required. Axle seal can be a bugger to seat correctly so I just got a garage to do it (took them 3 goes, draining the axle each time!).

Any idea where is the best place to go for a hub rebuild kit?

CliveG
18-03-2015, 19:20
Welcome from a Y60 owner in SW France,Milners 4x4,club discount through this site.You'll find them on here,the discount wipes out my postage costs to France and always found them helpful:thumb2

Barrbeast
19-03-2015, 00:01
Any idea where is the best place to go for a hub rebuild kit?

Milners can supply the constituent parts but don't sell a full rebuild kit off the shelf, although I think Makeitfit was able to get them to put a kit together for him.

Japanese 4x4 parts sell a kit for £40 (one side)

http://www.japanese4x4parts.co.uk/nissan-patrol-y61-28td30td---front-wheelhub-bearings--oil-seal-kit-1-side-up-to-102005-6890-p.asp

You can also try eBay :thumb2

Oldboybob
19-03-2015, 00:40
So am I right in thinking that the oil leaking out is gearbox oil? Forgive my ignorance but I assumed what was leaking out was from the hub. :nenau

Oldboybob
19-03-2015, 00:49
Hi and welcome, i've also just joined and have a 99 2.8 patrol :clap awesome trucks, looking for a swb 2.8 to keep it company lol.
Did you buy the swb one that was for sale on ebay in merseyside? Was looking at that one but was too far for me

No I got mine from a bloke in Sheffield, would post a pic but don't have a clue how to.

Barrbeast
19-03-2015, 00:57
So am I right in thinking that the oil leaking out is gearbox oil? Forgive my ignorance but I assumed what was leaking out was from the hub. :nenau

Nope, diff oil from the front axle bud, it's the driveshaft seal that's leaking.

Like I said, there's no oil in the swivel hub, just a bit of grease on the CV joint.

Oldboybob
19-03-2015, 01:43
Nope, diff oil from the front axle bud, it's the driveshaft seal that's leaking.

Like I said, there's no oil in the swivel hub, just a bit of grease on the CV joint.

:doh diff oil, of course! is this something worth tackling by a home mechanic or are there specialist tools required ie bearing press tools? BTW thanks for your advice on the hub kits. I was about to drop nearly double that price on a kit.

AlexD333
19-03-2015, 07:18
You should get yourself a free photobucket account, that way just copy and paste link of pics to here.

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23597

Failing that click attachments on the forum and thn upload ect.

supergnome
19-03-2015, 09:22
You can also take a screen shot of the picture and then attach it to a reply in the "go advanced " bit. David.

Barrbeast
19-03-2015, 14:24
:doh diff oil, of course! is this something worth tackling by a home mechanic or are there specialist tools required ie bearing press tools? BTW thanks for your advice on the hub kits. I was about to drop nearly double that price on a kit.

No bother bud, wish I'd found it before I got mine done last year as all the garage could find then was the double price kit and it was so close to Wales Trip 2014 that I didn't have time to source a cheaper one! :(

I think it can be done with normal tools, have never tried it myself but I think some of the other Y60/Y61 members have managed it. Check out patrol4x4.com and nissanpatrol.au forums (the Aussies love Trols) as there'll be more info on there. Like I said I was happy to let the garage do it as I'd heard from the Aussies that the axle seal was a bit of a barsteward!

Oldboybob
20-03-2015, 21:57
No bother bud, wish I'd found it before I got mine done last year as all the garage could find then was the double price kit and it was so close to Wales Trip 2014 that I didn't have time to source a cheaper one! :(

I think it can be done with normal tools, have never tried it myself but I think some of the other Y60/Y61 members have managed it. Check out patrol4x4.com and nissanpatrol.au forums (the Aussies love Trols) as there'll be more info on there. Like I said I was happy to let the garage do it as I'd heard from the Aussies that the axle seal was a bit of a barsteward!

Thank you, I have ordered the hub rebuild kit and a new Haynes manual so will get stuck in as soon as they arrive.