Driving licence changes

[briggie]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/driving-licence-changes

[macabethiel]

As I have not moved house since 1984 I still have my green paper only driving licence that is valid until my 70th birthday.

I am amazed at how many people do not realise that the Photo Licences are not issued on the same basis but have a shorter expiry date. Methinks its 10 years ?

[Terranical]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/driving-licence-changes
That's good, because I can't find mine!

[makeitfit]

Another loop hole closed damn it :o
Then again as said above I can never find the ruddy thing anyway :doh

[solarman216]

yep I still have my paper licence, always regarded the photocard one as a back door identity card which I vowed I would never have, Rick

[rustic]

My wife and I still have the old green paper copy, no on going charges.:thumb2

Now looking back, my original provisional licence was a red booklet, see pic below, taken from internet..
Pages were stuck into it, with driving entitlements etc.

[don simon]

As I have not moved house since 1984 I still have my green paper only driving licence that is valid until my 70th birthday.

I am amazed at how many people do not realise that the Photo Licences are not issued on the same basis but have a shorter expiry date. Methinks its 10 years ?
My understanding is that the 10 year renewal is so that the photo is up to date, as far as I'm aware my licence is still valid until I'm 70 (and automatically renewed up to this point) and that's when I'll have to be retested or provide medical certificates (or whatever it is that has to be done).

[makeitfit]

My understanding is that the 10 year renewal is so that the photo is up to date, as far as I'm aware my licence is still valid until I'm 70 (and automatically renewed up to this point) and that's when I'll have to be retested or provide medical certificates (or whatever it is that has to be done).

Ah, but, as it stands today, if your photo part is out of date OR you no longer look like your pic, then your entitlement to drive is rescinded.
Both parts must be valid to be able to drive legally . All sorts of insurance issues too.
Sorry Rustic, looks like you and my wife will have to go digital :o

[jonela]

Once I had lived in France for Three years I had to change my uk licence for a French one, this thread has just prompted me to check out the procedure of changing it back when I come home hopefully later this year. I was worried that I may lose some of the categories i had on my original licence, espetialy the towing restrictions.
Any way I rang them this morning and I will get my licence back the same as it was when I left the uk. :thumb2
The French licence is worse than the old uk paper licence, and you have to have it with you at all times. Ho, and it dosn't help when it's been in the washer a few times :doh

[don simon]

Ah, but, as it stands today, if your photo part is out of date OR you no longer look like your pic, then your entitlement to drive is rescinded.
Both parts must be valid to be able to drive legally . All sorts of insurance issues too.
Gotcha, I'd fogotten how involved the govt had become in order to protect us from ourselves. I assume it's for our own good and nothing to do with the govts need to monitor our movements for security purposes.... Oh no... :rolleyes:

[makeitfit]

Once I had lived in France for Three years I had to change my uk licence for a French one, this thread has just prompted me to check out the procedure of changing it back when I come home hopefully later this year. I was worried that I may lose some of the categories i had on my original licence, espetialy the towing restrictions.
Any way I rang them this morning and I will get my licence back the same as it was when I left the uk. :thumb2
The French licence is worse than the old uk paper licence, and you have to have it with you at all times. Ho, and it dosn't help when it's been in the washer a few times :doh

I've had so many points over the years that my paper one is always in good nick. Albeit with a lot more ink on it :lol

[R1cho]

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[AlexD333]

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Can I have this is a sticker please :augie

So will insurance companies have access to this? What happens if you take out insurance without points declared, and you get stopped by the police? :nenau

[Paff]

Still got a little red book licence somewhere...

[makeitfit]

Can I have this is a sticker please :augie

So will insurance companies have access to this? What happens if you take out insurance without points declared, and you get stopped by the police? :nenau

DVLA sell your info all over the shop already. Ins companies will I'm sure already have access to your details. Non declared points = invalid policy.
They can check but don't as that way they can wriggle out of claims while still taking your money. So fess up or pay up :o

[don simon]

Can I have this is a sticker please :augie

So will insurance companies have access to this? What happens if you take out insurance without points declared, and you get stopped by the police? :nenau
The link above has a link that shows all your details on-line with the the only requirement being licence number, NI number and postcode.
What info do we put on our insurance applications?

[FormerSmurf]

Just tried the web service, doesn't work anyway.

It asks for national insurance details, I didn't realise that this was linked to either my address or licence?

[briggie]

From 8 June 2015 penalty points (endorsements) will no longer be shown on driving licence. This information will be held on DVLA’s driver record, and can be checked online, by phone or post.

[macabethiel]

My understanding is that the 10 year renewal is so that the photo is up to date, as far as I'm aware my licence is still valid until I'm 70 (and automatically renewed up to this point) and that's when I'll have to be retested or provide medical certificates (or whatever it is that has to be done).

Nope if its a photo licence that has not had a picture renewal it has all expired after 10 years the expiry date will be 10 years after its issue otherwise.

[briggie]

To renew online, you need:
a valid UK passport
to be a resident of Great Britain - there’s a different service in Northern Ireland
to pay £14 by MasterCard, Visa, Electron, Maestro or Delta debit or credit card (there’s no fee if you’re over 70 or have a medical short period licence)
addresses of where you’ve lived over the last 3 years
your current driving licence, including the paper counterpart if you have a photocard licence (if you don’t have your licence you must say why in your application)
your National Insurance number
to not be disqualified from driving

but what if you haven't got a passport ( like me ) ?

[macabethiel]

My wife and I still have the old green paper copy, no on going charges.:thumb2

Now looking back, my original provisional licence was a red booklet, see pic below, taken from internet..
Pages were stuck into it, with driving entitlements etc.

Yep I still have my Red Licence issued at Matlock by Derby County Council. They were valid for was it three years but mine was issued a year before DVLA took over so it has no expiry date printed on it.

For a laugh I took mine into work when I had to do the yearly production and made out its the only one I have ever had. It reached manager level and I pointed out that it had a valid from date so in the absence of an expiry date it must still be valid. When Head Office tried to say it was no longer valid I did capitualte and produce my propper one. They then insisted on some photo i/d and wanted to see my passport !

[briggie]

Failure to update your photograph carries a £1,000 fine and can be enforced by the police under Section 99 of the Road Traffic Act 1988.

There is no impact on your car insurance as long as the driver has not been disqualified or told not to drive by the DVLA (due to a medical issue, for example).



The research also revealed that the vast majority of drivers are unaware of the true consequences of having an expired photograph on their driving licence.

Just 29 per cent know that it could make you liable for a £1,000 fine. However, almost a third (31 per cent) of drivers incorrectly said they thought it could invalidate your motor insurance and 27 per cent thought it could mean getting points on your licence.

Interestingly, 13 per cent of drivers thought it could result in your car being confiscated.

[macabethiel]

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[makeitfit]

It does invalidate your insurance and your car will be impounded. "Driving other than in accordance to your license" or lack of it.
Been there, done that, went to court.
Briggie, no passport just means you have to do it old skool stylee, ie post your info and new pic etc.

[jonela]

I still have some of my dad's old licences,the first one was issued by Bradford county council on the 1st of October 1957, there was a fee of 5 shillings,25p in new money. :rolleyes:

[Sweety]

If they are scrapping the paper park why on earth did they send me it a couple of months ago when I had to renew mine:doh

[makeitfit]

If they are scrapping the paper park why on earth did they send me it a couple of months ago when I had to renew mine:doh

I've only just had my new one issued and it's clean for the first time :clap
I'm framing it :cool:

[bry]

My license is clean now,as been for some time.But some years back the courts had it more often than me..