View Full Version : Spare wheel gone! Looking mean!
AlexD333
21-02-2015, 14:14
Whatcha reckon chaps? Mixed opinions on fb page. :sly
macabethiel
21-02-2015, 15:52
Looks okay to me but who am I to judge I think the Nissan Cube looks brilliant as well !
AlexD333
21-02-2015, 16:37
Looks okay to me but who am I to judge I think the Nissan Cube looks brilliant as well !
Your opinion has been removed :lol
terrano bob
21-02-2015, 16:41
I better not comment had I alex :thumbs
AlexD333
21-02-2015, 16:44
Oooh where's that list :naughty
AlexD333
21-02-2015, 16:46
I want a big sticker that reads our website for the bottom of the door, whole width. I reckon that would look good!
I've got a 33" spare on mine now and it don't half look big compared to my other one.
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp343/elty001/2014-10/DSC_0088_zpsusa38e3i.jpg
Going to move the number plate over an inch as it's slightly obscuring it.
I've been here thinking what can I write that says it all to give encouragement to Alex for all his hard work...
No... still can't think of anything really nice to say...
So some encouragement...
What you need on the rear, is a wheel, to cover that crumpled rear door, it should look much better, well as good as it can when you compare it to the rest of the rear...:doh
Now thinking again, the crumpled rear door actually matches the rear quite well.:thumb2:thumb2
I knew i could think of something positive after all....
:thumb2
:lol:lol:lol:lol
jims-terrano
21-02-2015, 19:42
I've thought of something positive, I ain't doing that to mine.
terrano bob
21-02-2015, 19:51
I can think of things to say but alex won't like what I say or :lol:lol:lol :thumbs
everyone has their particular views on what looks good or not , but from a practical view ..... just hope you don't get a puncture :doh..... also its probably illegal not to carry a legal spare .......... but whatever floats your boat mate .
.......... but whatever floats your boat mate .
iF those tyres were any bigger, it would be a boat lol.
:lol
Are you going to keep the spare in the boot or fit a roof rack & keep it on there? The tyre weld stuff will fix some punctures enough to get you home but if you use it you need to replace the tyre as the tyre weld stuff in facts melts the rubber on the inside of the tyre to help seal the hole but if you managed to tear a sidewall off road you'll be right in the do do's without a spare wheel:doh
don simon
21-02-2015, 21:41
Can you get 5L tins of tyre weld? :duno:
perelaar
21-02-2015, 22:47
Looks good, but 4 tyre blowouts on the highway in the past years I'm never leaving without a spare wheel again..
Lazy-Ferret
21-02-2015, 23:27
Well I will say it.... It looks bloody awful....:nenau
I do have a question, Why???
It seems to serve no purpose to remove it, it won't improve your departure angle, and the weight of the iron work on the front of your car, you have no fear of pulling a wheely having the extra weight behind the rear wheels!!! In fact, I am not certain that taking that counter weight off the back will not make your steering and front CV components wear out quicker.. :augie:rolleyes:
The nicest thing I can say is it looks like the latest Disco...:eek:
4x4's are supposed to have a spare wheel on the back... It's what makes them!!!
:D:D
The nicest thing I can say is it looks like the latest Disco...:eek:
4x4's are supposed to have a spare wheel on the back... It's what makes them!!!
That might be Alex's next mod fitting LR badges:lol:lol With the spare gone the rear bondage bar looks as if it needs moving upwards now:augie
Lazy-Ferret
21-02-2015, 23:38
That might be Alex's next mod fitting LR badges:lol:lol With the spare gone the rear bondage bar looks as if it needs moving upwards now:augie
I do think with the rear wheel gone, all I can see is how far those wheels stick out past the body... it's like there is nothing to draw your eye away from them.
AlexD333
22-02-2015, 01:54
Hehe all comments taken on board, apart from the nissan cube one :augie
My main reason for removing the spare wheel was the following, when I purchased the set of wheels 4 were mud trackers and spare was an avon ranger, now I've moved up the wheel size is so far off it's not worth keeping on.
I do actually plan to get a roof rack and spare wheel there (that's the plan anyway) but I have heard the roof is a bit fragile :nenau
Funny how everyone has different views, it's got some good looks since the new shoes and removal of spare, and I quote "f*** that's a sick truck" from a loonie walking past at work :lol
Also had a cyclist take a second and third look back at it as he undertook in traffic, oh and had kids snapping pics of it and again they said "that's wicked, it's like a mini monster truck" :lol
Naturally I was included to agree :augie
So getting back to the subject, can a roof rack and spare be secured on the roof without too much stress? And regarding wheels poking out I plan to do arch extension.
If you have a wheel to go on the roof, how are you going to lift it up there?
You will need a ladder of some sort. Then you will have to slide it up somehow, maybe on your own. Also get it down, in the pouring rain in the dark ... that's when punctures happen....:doh
Hey, you could use your winch... over the roof and haul it up and over...
With the extra weight high up, and your higher stance, you are making it easier to roll it.
Now, best place for wheel is either lashed down securely in the boot, or on the back door. I hope you haven't binned the door bracket.
You will also affect the aerodynamics of the truck :lol:lol
I don't think you need worry about that lol...:augie
So where are you going to mount your waffle boards and high lift jack?
Maybe, a safari roof rack, with a tent option, then you can camp up there.
Fridge next, and then some hot air heating, some curtains...
firebobby
22-02-2015, 08:58
Hehe all comments taken on board, apart from the nissan cube one :augie
My main reason for removing the spare wheel was the following, when I purchased the set of wheels 4 were mud trackers and spare was an avon ranger, now I've moved up the wheel size is so far off it's not worth keeping on.
I do actually plan to get a roof rack and spare wheel there (that's the plan anyway) but I have heard the roof is a bit fragile :nenau
Funny how everyone has different views, it's got some good looks since the new shoes and removal of spare, and I quote "f*** that's a sick truck" from a loonie walking past at work :lol
Also had a cyclist take a second and third look back at it as he undertook in traffic, oh and had kids snapping pics of it and again they said "that's wicked, it's like a mini monster truck" :lol
Naturally I was included to agree :augie
So getting back to the subject, can a roof rack and spare be secured on the roof without too much stress? And regarding wheels poking out I plan to do arch extension.
Hehe all comments taken on board, apart from the nissan cube one :augie
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He wasn't a loony, he was right and he probably said "sick F>ck" :lol
Cyclist was hoping he never runs into that thing on the front and has told his mates to be on the look out for it :augie
and kids are very easy to please :augie
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :thumb2
I have found that my back door doesn't really even close properly anymore due to having big arsed M/T's hanging off it over the last few years...so naturally i have given up the battle of trying to stop the water getting in by removing anything inside on the floor that can actually absorb water... the plan for my truck is to do a double cab conversion/ chop the back of it. we'll see as time progresses
Barrbeast
22-02-2015, 12:04
Alex mate, until you get this roof rack what are you gonna do if you get a puncture or trash a tyre offroad? :confused:
I don't understand the reasoning behind getting rid of your spare? When most of us go up a tyre size (eg. me or Elty) we just fit a bigger spare, not get rid of it altogether! :rolleyes:
For the record I don't really have any views about taking it off the back door (do what you want, its your truck) but, as usual, you seem to have fired ahead without actually thinking things through :doh
Also the removal of the spare will have nothing to do with the comments you've had from joe public - they're talking about your other mods!
AlexD333
22-02-2015, 12:45
Hehe cheers chaps, I like it anyway :lol
I pay good money for full recovery service, they know the truck is modded so they just send the low loader, I've also got connections through work.
The spare was so much smaller it wasn't worth keeping on.
The door closes like a dream now too!! None of that judder bounce crap, it sounds like the passenger doors now :lol
The lanes I'm on are only very short, reachable is probably the word I'm looking for. As for a puncture id use my recovery. :thumb2
I still have all the bits at work, but I don't think it's going back on.
Apart from anything else I'd need a bigger body lift to fit another spare the same size on the boot :thumb2
Barrbeast
22-02-2015, 13:06
I pay good money for full recovery service, they know the truck is modded so they just send the low loader, I've also got connections through work.
...The lanes I'm on are only very short, reachable is probably the word I'm looking for. As for a puncture id use my recovery.
That is the one of the daftest comments you've come out with yet bud - I pay extra for full recovery too, but I don't expect to have to phone if I come out to find a flat tyre on the truck. :doh :o
I don't get it, you do all these mods to make her better offroad but then decide to just rely on a recovery truck being able to make it up a lane to you if you have a puncture. Basically you're going to be relying on whoever you're with to help get you back to the road and the recovery truck - if it was me, knowing the background, I'd be tempted to leave you :rolleyes:
Also, if you're on a laning weekend you're pretty much going to miss a lot of it while you sort out a new tyre!
The spare was so much smaller it wasn't worth keeping on.
That's why you buy a bigger tyre for the spare - just get a cheapy, as long as it's still the same size.
Apart from anything else I'd need a bigger body lift to fit another spare the same size on the boot :thumb2
Elty hasn't had any trouble fitting a 33" spare on his truck :rolleyes:
AlexD333
22-02-2015, 13:37
What I'm saying is the old spare only just fitted on coz of my bumpers, an even bigger one is going to hit the bumper meaning I cant open my boot door unless I do further body lift.
Before the body lift atall the tyre would catch the bumper bad even flat...
I need to find a new home for it.
I need to find a new home for it.
Fit a swing away wheel carrier to the rear bumper:thumbs hell fit 2 then you could carry 2 spares like expedition trucks have & be the first to do it on a T2:naughty
Barrbeast
22-02-2015, 13:49
Like Sweety says (since you have a steel rear bumper it makes it easier to fit a swing away) or fit a spare wheel bracket spacer and/or extension.
Lazyferret fitted one to move his spare higher up the door - he posted pics ;)
Like I said, take your bracket off if you want, but you ideally want to have sorted the alternative place for your spare wheel before you removed the bracket...
Something you've forgotten about Alex where are you going to rest your coffee mug now the spare wheel has gone:lol:lol:lol
Barrbeast
22-02-2015, 14:03
Something you've forgotten about Alex where are you going to rest your coffee mug now the spare wheel has gone:lol:lol:lol
Gah, I totally forgot the most important reason for keeping the spare! :doh
Gah, I totally forgot the most important reason for keeping the spare! :doh
I know mine often gets use as a cup holder/rest:augie
I'm sure you could get something like this fabricated up to fit onto your bumper Alex
Thomas-the-Terrano2
22-02-2015, 14:22
nissan xterria ? in picture. the US version of d22 pickup
AlexD333
22-02-2015, 14:23
Ok, now you guys are speaking my language :sly
The next silly question i must ask is how will the bracket be moveable for Cygnus bumper? Need solid welding to bumper and a bearing above or similar? Hinge? :nenau
Cheers chaps :clap
Barrbeast
22-02-2015, 14:33
Ok, now you guys are speaking my language :sly
The next silly question i must ask is how will the bracket be moveable for Cygnus bumper? Need solid welding to bumper and a bearing above or similar? Hinge? :nenau
Cheers chaps :clap
Hinge... big beefy hinge :thumbs
Lazy-Ferret
22-02-2015, 16:48
Like Sweety says (since you have a steel rear bumper it makes it easier to fit a swing away) or fit a spare wheel bracket spacer and/or extension.
Lazyferret fitted one to move his spare higher up the door - he posted pics ;)
Like I said, take your bracket off if you want, but you ideally want to have sorted the alternative place for your spare wheel before you removed the bracket...
I have a Swing away on the T1... I looked into one on the T2, but not sure you could fit one to the T2 in the same way, as the rear corners are considerably beefed up for the mountings on the T1, and as said, the mounting brackets for the swing away are very beefy blocks of steel, the top one alone weighed in at about 3Kgs. Then once closed, it actually sits on 2 mountings on the rear bumper, so the hinges are not taking the weight once on the road. So to fit one, would require a fair bit of fabrication work.
Because of this, on my T2, I just lifted the rear bracket, which to be honest is a piece of cake. To do what Alex wants would require nothing more than some box section, 4 longer fine thread bolts to fix the box section in place of the carrier, and then 4 nuts and bolts to fit the carrier further up the box section.
Your recovery wont recover you from a greenlane only on tarmac.
Even if you're spare is smaller its still usefull to get you off that lane! How else will you get off the lane without ruining your rim and tyre?!
Your recovery wont recover you from a greenlane only on tarmac.
Even if you're spare is smaller its still usefull to get you off that lane! How else will you get off the lane without ruining your rim and tyre?!
I have off road recovery with Adrian Flux :sly
Blocky10
22-02-2015, 18:13
I'd have an el cheapo tyre, the same size, fitted to the existing spare and keep it in the boot. Probably a good idea to bolt the carrier to the floor so the wheel doesn't fly around when your truck is rolling down a hill. I'd then build storage around it and cover it all over. Similar to what I've seen some guys on here do in their work trucks.
OR modify the rear bumper (?) so a full size spare still fits on the door.
One other thing, I'd have them rear wheel spacers off.
Other than that I think it's pukka. [emoji106]
AlexD333
22-02-2015, 18:19
I'd have an el cheapo tyre, the same size, fitted to the existing spare and keep it in the boot. Probably a good idea to bolt the carrier to the floor so the wheel doesn't fly around when your truck is rolling down a hill. I'd then build storage around it and cover it all over. Similar to what I've seen some guys on here do in their work trucks.
OR modify the rear bumper (?) so a full size spare still fits on the door.
One other thing, I'd have them rear wheel spacers off.
Other than that I think it's pukka. [emoji106]
The bar of my bumper would need to be cut into, not something I plan to do as it would weaken it, a further body lift is possible, or perhaps a roof rack as mentioned, I'll prob end up with a shogun ladder too :lol
You wouldn't have to cut into the bumper as some box section could have a U cut into it so it sits nicely around the tubing of the bumper & then welded in place & a swing away carrier mounted onto the bracket:thumbs
Barrbeast
22-02-2015, 18:35
I have off road recovery with Adrian Flux :sly
So do I... but can't see a recovery truck making it up some of the lanes I've done! :lol
Blocky10
22-02-2015, 18:41
How about a fold down instead of a swing away? Mounted straight off your bumper.
How about a fold down instead of a swing away? Mounted straight off your bumper.
You would probably want a spring to assist the lift, like on the rear doors of horse boxes, or a couple of gas rams, like tail gate lifters on hatch backs.
Re bracket on rear door, I know in the first instance, some people have removed the bracket and simply inverted it to gain an inch or so.
What ever you do, the key is sorting out a suitable bracket adaptor for the rear door, in my opinion.
More body lift...:doh At what point are your drive shafts and prop shafts going to say enoughs enough...
Have you actually taken this truck off road to the limits of what the car can do now?
I recon when you do, you will find the weakest link, could be steeering arms, prop shafts, cv joints, wheel bearings, suspension ball joints, even the torsion bars.
None of these have been tested to the extreme.:augie:augie and most you are putting an extra strain on them in just normal driving too.
So do I... but can't see a recovery truck making it up some of the lanes I've done! [emoji38]
My mate has the same cover and he buried his Defender up to the sills, he rang up and Adrian Flux sent a modded Disco 2 from a local garage to winch him out lol
I have off road recovery with Adrian Flux :sly
I have the same cover but id double check with them.
But who wants to wait 1 - 2 hours for recovery for a simple puncture. If they find out you have none they may not recover you too.
I have the same cover but id double check with them.
But who wants to wait 1 - 2 hours for recovery for a simple puncture. If they find out you have none they may not recover you too.
Very true lol, may have to just invest in a winch :sly
why not put the spare on the roof ...... or even the bonnet ...... like a certain well known 4x4 ?
AlexD333
22-02-2015, 22:51
why not put the spare on the roof ...... or even the bonnet ...... like a certain well known 4x4 ?
Never on the bonnet :lol
The roof is quite appealing. I cant get in the 2m car parks now anyway.. :rolleyes:
Blocky10
06-03-2015, 18:36
I know the spare wheel debate is long gone but I found this clip which is worth a watch. Yes it's a l*+d r*§¥r but some cool ideas.
ICON Reformer Custom Land Rover NAS110 Defender: http://youtu.be/wWYVOmn27jI
Alex, clamp the spare wheel to the front bumper bar... it is out of the way, and it is a softer nudge bar when you push something out of the way.
Think about the old VW camper vans with the spare on the front.:thumb2
AlexD333
06-03-2015, 19:33
Alex, clamp the spare wheel to the front bumper bar... it is out of the way, and it is a softer nudge bar when you push something out of the way.
Think about the old VW camper vans with the spare on the front.:thumb2
That's almost a good idea :lol
Almost ;)
johnb5177
06-03-2015, 19:36
Wow, that's nice.......mind you, I think it stopped being a L/R a long time ago......:thumb2
Just make a bracket for the rear door,and fit to that.Noticed a lot of Terrano's have them there.Lol...
That's almost a good idea :lol
Almost ;)
Why not double up your rear wheels on the rear axle, like transit vans, then you have 6 wheels to choose from, should be able to get a set of four from those...
You will need extending rear wheel arches though.:augie
Alex mate, until you get this roof rack what are you gonna do if you get a puncture or trash a tyre offroad? :confused:
I don't understand the reasoning behind getting rid of your spare? When most of us go up a tyre size (eg. me or Elty) we just fit a bigger spare, not get rid of it altogether! :rolleyes:
For the record I don't really have any views about taking it off the back door (do what you want, its your truck) but, as usual, you seem to have fired ahead without actually thinking things through :doh
Also the removal of the spare will have nothing to do with the comments you've had from joe public - they're talking about your other mods!
My bumper is still in the original position as it's been lifted with the body and I've got a 33" spare on.
Just make a bracket,sorry get rick to make a bracket:lol that will lift the wheel clear of the bumper.
Keep it simple but effective mate:thumb2
Barrbeast
06-03-2015, 21:22
Just make a bracket for the rear door,and fit to that.Noticed a lot of Terrano's have them there.Lol...
:clap:lol:lol:lol
makeitfit
06-03-2015, 21:40
I carry my spare IN the back of the truck. No way am I having fookin' great 35s bouncing about on the back door. What's more it's more over hang, rear projection :eek:
I also have a tyre repair kit on board with a pumpo gizmo to re-inflate after low pressure offroad sessions :D
Play offroad, take the right toys :cool:
terrano bob
07-03-2015, 00:29
I carry my spare IN the back of the truck. No way am I having fookin' great 35s bouncing about on the back door. What's more it's more over hang, rear projection :eek:
I also have a tyre repair kit on board with a pumpo gizmo to re-inflate after low pressure offroad sessions :D
Play offroad, take the right toys :cool:
:clap now that's the most sensible answer of all the post of this stupid post :thumbs
macabethiel
07-03-2015, 08:43
Unless its a major split the modern repair kits are brilliant. The AA turned out for me on a work Mercedes puncture situation.
The vehicle had a space saver but the chap simply jacked the wheel off the ground to assist with rim seal.
He unscrewed the Schroder type valve and injected some magic liquid into the tyre, replaced the valve and connected his battery driven pump and within 10 minutes all was sorted. It drove as normal on the way back to the dealership. This stuff is great if you have alloy wheels that have corroded and loose air over time.
firebobby
07-03-2015, 10:36
This stuff is great if you have alloy wheels that have corroded and loose air over time.
My sons alloy was loosing air around the wheel bead, so I put this type of stuff in and it's holding up a year later. :thumb2
firebobby
07-03-2015, 10:38
:clap now that's the most sensible answer of all the post of this stupid post :thumbs
BOB!!!!:eek::eek:, are you calling Alex's post stupid, he never posts stupid :augie:augie
terrano bob
07-03-2015, 19:08
BOB!!!!:eek::eek:, are you calling Alex's post stupid, he never posts stupid :augie:augie
yep :lol:lol:lol :thumbs
AlexD333
07-03-2015, 19:18
Wow now, easy there chaps, all my threads are full of useful information and er.. You know.. :rolleyes: :augie
AlexD333
07-03-2015, 19:20
Wow, I've started 500 threads since I've been on here :clap
makeitfit
07-03-2015, 19:56
Wow now, easy there chaps, all my threads are full of useful information and er.. You know.. :rolleyes: :augie
Hang in there matey. As long as you're learning from the collective on here I can cope with your high output :thumbs
firebobby
07-03-2015, 19:56
Wow, I've started 500 threads since I've been on here :clap
Yeah, lucky us :augie:augie ;)
Hang in there matey. As long as you're learning from the collective on here I can cope with your high output :thumbs
Yes he certainly has a high output...:nenau
But so has a bull...:augie
:lol:lol
terrano bob
07-03-2015, 23:00
Yes he certainly has a high output...:nenau
But so has a bull...:augie
:lol:lol
:roflol: :clap:lol:thumbs
Hang in there matey. As long as you're learning from the collective on here I can cope with your high output :thumbs
I agree, if you don't ask questions you will never know.
That's what this forum is all about. :clap
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