What is the 2003 Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 Di-D like ?

[macabethiel]

Looking for a replacement 4 x 4 locally within 20 miles of Derby.

Up to now have found a Tuscan 2.0 Diesel auto and Shogun 7 seater 5 door auto in my price range maximum £5k and not over 100,000 miles.

Anyone here had a Shogun Auto ?

[briggie]

yes , I had a shogun 2.8 lwb auto :o.... had 3 head gaskets in 2 months :rolleyes:..... terrible mpg ...would I have another ? ....... NO !!

[Sweety]

The 3.2 from what I know isn't a bad engine & gives good MPG only down side I know of is the auto box costs big money to fix when it go's wrong. The later ones don't have a ladder chassis any more as they are monocoque shells. I did look at a couple a few years ago & there is tonnes of room inside them more than a disco 2:augie

[terrano bob]

I also had 2.8 auto loved it 2003 to many elect problems mpg not good but loved the shogun i'd have one again tomorrow :thumbs

[macabethiel]

I also had 2.8 auto loved it 2003 to many elect problems mpg not good but loved the shogun i'd have one again tomorrow :thumbs

My r3mR auto it was usually in the 21-23 mpg range except in the winter when it would drop to 18mpg on short journey work. On a run it was 25-28 mpg.

Okay so how bad was the mpg on your Shogun ?

[briggie]

I got around 15mpg ........ when it was running :rolleyes:

[macabethiel]

I got around 15mpg ........ when it was running :rolleyes:

That's pretty low think I might look for an alternative. Just realised the Tuscan is smaller than the Santa FE so that is out. Just found a Jeep Grand Cherokee locally at a small dealership in our price zone but its the 2.7 engine not the 3.0 litre 6 cylinder. Might take a look at the weekend when we know for certain how much the insurance company are giving us for the old Santa Fe.

[Barrbeast]

The 3.2 engine should get better economy than the 2.8 engine Briggie had in his Shogun.

Have to say my 2.8 Shogun LWB never missed a beat, even when she started overheating because the water pump seal had gone and started dumping coolant - new pump fitted and away I went.

Mine was a manual rather than an auto but I used to reckon on getting around 24 mpg.

Only got rid of her as I fancied a Trol (and something a bit newer).

[Sweety]

Don't confuse the old 2.5 & 2.8 MPG with the newer 3.2DI engines as the new 3.2 gives much better MPG & on paper they are better than the 3L T2's:augie

[macabethiel]

Don't confuse the old 2.5 & 2.8 MPG with the newer 3.2DI engines as the new 3.2 gives much better MPG & on paper they are better than the 3L T2's:augie

That's interesting the Missus likes the Shogun so it's going to be down to her in the end.
I can only advise her what the options are it will be her call!

Figures on website show 21.2 urban, 32.1 & 26.9 mpg bet thats for a manual though!

The mileage wories me as it's 99,000 so within a month it will be in six figures

[briggie]

I can only advise you based on my experience with them .... but shoguns are / were notorious for blowing head gaskets :rolleyes:

[macabethiel]

Tonight its a three horse race !!

1. A Shogun.
2. Jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7
3. Discovery 2.5 TDI on a 51 plate 1 family owned FSH.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

find the poor diesel mpg quotes interesting as their petrol shoguns
are always said to be pretty good relatively.

a neighbour has a 3.5 petrol 24v v6, says mid to high teens though
makes such a lovely sound temptation not to use loud pedal is hard.

[AlexD333]

That's interesting the Missus likes the Shogun so it's going to be down to her in the end.
I can only advise her what the options are it will be her call!

Figures on website show 21.2 urban, 32.1 & 26.9 mpg bet thats for a manual though!

The mileage wories me as it's 99,000 so within a month it will be in six figures

Ooh yum, that's just the right mileage for a dms replacement and probably a cam chain strip :naughty

[Terrano Steve]

Tonight its a three horse race !!

1. A Shogun.
2. Jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7
3. Discovery 2.5 TDI on a 51 plate 1 family owned FSH.

Everyone has their opinion:nenau but I can only see one of those horses even finishing

[Blocky10]

Cherokee 2.7 merc engines suffer from leaky injectors so I'm told

[Sweety]

A 51 plate disco will be a disco 2 with the TD5 engine, if you like fixing motors every weekend with expensive parts buy it now:lol been there, seen it & done it with a disco 2 never again:doh TD5's often suffer cracked heads, faulty ABS pumps, air bags leak & their compressor fails often, injector harness needs replacing every year as they fill up with all & you will get water pouring off the headliner down the back door into the boot & at the front into your lap:doh & i've just touched on a couple of the common problems
Jeep Grand Cherokee 2.7 are nice motors just make sure they have had all the recalls done just phone a jeep dealer with the reg & ask

[macabethiel]

Cherokee 2.7 merc engines suffer from leaky injectors so I'm told

I work at a MB dealership leaky injectors were a problem with the 4 cylinder engines and to some extent still are.
The 6 cylinder V6 engines were sound.

The 2.7 engine was based on the old 2.5 TD but upgraded with common rail and a few extra cubic centimetres bored out. They are reliable but not very punchy engines fitted to the old shaped ML series. I am not aware of injector issues on the 2.7 engine.
I am not a fan of 5 cylinder engines I had a C250 TD Estate and it was very boring. I like the Jeep the later V6 versions are much better but a tad thirstier but a bit more than I want to pay.

[macabethiel]

Everyone has their opinion:nenau but I can only see one of those horses even finishing

Dont hold back which one would you say is the winner ?

[terrano bob]

Dont hold back which one would you say is the winner ?

you will not be disappointed with a shogun 2.8 or 3.2 long story why I sold I do like my terrano but I loved the shogun don't buy the import one they they say there's no difference but there is imports have cylinder head problems and i'm not getting into any arguments :thumbs

[Terrano Steve]

Dont hold back which one would you say is the winner ?

The Shogun