Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!%*@!

[Paff]

My Terrano has let me down tonight :eek:

Flat battery! Well not totally flat, just not enough to start her. In hind sight the last two or three starts took a bit longer and didn't turn over as fast as normal.

I will have a look tomorrow, fingers crossed it is just a battery failure and I will see a cell gassing. I have a brand new battery that I bought for my business van - Renault Traffic, so if it's a battery, I hope that it will fit.

I will also check the charge rate...

[terrano bob]

no problem then :thumbs

[jims-terrano]

Check the positive terminal is intact, they have a tendancy to break off the cable.

[Lazy-Ferret]

Check the positive terminal is intact, they have a tendancy to break off the cable.

As Jim says, check the positive terminal, as the way it is made can make it look like it is fitted to the terminal fine, but the bit the wire connects to, can snap away and be loose underneath the main part of the terminal..

[Paff]

As Jim says, check the positive terminal, as the way it is made can make it look like it is fitted to the terminal fine, but the bit the wire connects to, can snap away and be loose underneath the main part of the terminal..

Will do, thanks :thumb2

[R1cho]

could be the starter :augie

[firebobby]

This time of year there is more draw on the battery...heater fan, heated rear window, lights, so if your battery isn't 100% this time of year will soon tell.

[makeitfit]

New battery could be the wrong way round for the T2

[rustic]

You can always find a secure place to carry the spare battery and a pair of jump leads, and haul it out when needed.

Also make sure all your glow plugs are working, if you are cranking too long to start, then that won't help.:thumb2

Gets you out of trouble and may help to isolate where the fault is without forking out £80 + for a new battery.

Also check terminal voltage of battery.
First thing in the morning before starting
Whilst on tick over
When running on fast tick over
After a good run.

This might help to explain a battery issue, or an alternator problem.
Eliminate these, then you might have a terminal problem or a lazy starter

[Sweety]

Had same problem yesterday & only put a new battery on last year but think it was my fault started it up to move it further up the drive left it running for 5 mins & switched it off & wouldn't start again:doh don't think I left it long enough to fully recharge:augie got it jump started ok took it for a good 7 mile run & it restarted fine after that

[Paff]

OK, I checked the terminals and leads, nothing lose/broken found. I have a digital discharge tester, connect that, set the CCA (700) and carried out the test, no fault found via the tester and I didn't see any cells bubbling - I have a non sealed battery on it. I have one one those cr@ppy led battery testers that tells you if the battery condition is OK, alternator OK etc, used that, all OK it tells me.

Voltmeter on battery = 12.3 volts. Tried to start, barely turned over, cranking volts down to 9v approx. Jump started with my spare van battery, yes makeitfit the terminals are the wrong way round :doh

Anyhow engine running, volts 14.47 so alternator is charging. Ran for a while until warm. Stopped and restarted OK without jump battery, tried again and barely turns over. Right, remove battery cell tops, crank for a while, quickly run to look at the cells and find the left hand on nearest the neg terminal bubbling like a goodun. So my discharge tester and led tester absolutely no use what so ever... I think I will look out for a discharge tester like I used to use, the one you just hold on the terminals.

So battery gone, new spare battery won't fit, so it is a new battery, any tips? Higher CCA ? Make of battery?

Battery on at the moment is a Platinum - see attached photee.

[terrano bob]

terminals wrong way round :confused: :thumbs

[makeitfit]

What I meant was the spare battery may be the wrong way round to suit the T2 .Nissan have back to front terminal positions. Keep up :D

[terrano bob]

oh right :thumbs

[Paff]

What I meant was the spare battery may be the wrong way round to suit the T2 .Nissan have back to front terminal positions. Keep up :D

:D:D:D

Yes the picture is taken from the windscreen to read the label. The Renault Traffic battery I have has the neg on the left and pos on the right :doh

[Paff]

Will this do? Right size/price?

http://www.mpdonline.co.uk/electrical-and-lighting-parts-for-cars/batteries/ZjE2ZDE0N2U4NTYyZTE5Y2QwZjRmMDUyZjg1N2ZiYzc4OTFhNm UxNw==

[Ogri]

This is what I have fitted to my 2004. It's bigger than the original one and needed to have the side clampdown rim trimmed slightly but just about fits. 4 year guarantee.

[makeitfit]

Will this do? Right size/price?

http://www.mpdonline.co.uk/electrical-and-lighting-parts-for-cars/batteries/ZjE2ZDE0N2U4NTYyZTE5Y2QwZjRmMDUyZjg1N2ZiYzc4OTFhNm UxNw==
I can't make any sense from that link ? Any specs there somewhere ? I'd go 900 / 1000 Amps :sly

[terrano bob]

I can't make any sense from that link ? Any specs there somewhere ? I'd go 900 / 1000 Amps :sly

yep I agree :hide: :thumbs

[Paff]

Is there anything need resetting when you change the battery apart from the clock? Radio? Alarm?

[Paff]

This is what I have fitted to my 2004. It's bigger than the original one and needed to have the side clampdown rim trimmed slightly but just about fits. 4 year guarantee.

I see that the terminals are forward instead of aft, did you have to extend your leads? Mine won't stretch that far.

I can't make any sense from that link ? Any specs there somewhere ? I'd go 900 / 1000 Amps :sly

Are you talking about the CCA?

[Ogri]

Oh, I didn't need to change anything apart from reroute the negative slightly to relieve a bit of stress. Thought that this was the normal way round to be honest? Just for accuracy, my + terminal faces forward and is towards the centre of the car.

[Paff]

My terminals are nearest the bulkhead. So who is right?

[Lazy-Ferret]

Mine are on the back of the battery, nearer the fire wall, and the positive is engine side.

[Paff]

Mine are on the back of the battery, nearer the fire wall, and the positive is engine side.

+ 1

[Ogri]

Perhaps mine was the other way around on the original battery? I really can't remember now but I certainly didn't do anything any more difficult than a bit of wiggling when I fitted this one. Oh, and cut a bit out of the clamp rim on the engine side. This battery came off my dead Mercedes W210.

[terrano bob]

:confused: :thumbs

[jims-terrano]

I have a Bosche battery with terminals at the back of the battery, + at the righthand side of the batter which is nearest the engine. Same orientation for my 05 plate just a different brand of battery.

Nothing needed resetting on my 96 model but for some reason I got a buzzer when the ignition was turned off but after the doors had been locked and unlocked first time it didn't buzz again.

[terrano bob]

right now I've got it :confused: :thumbs

[Paff]

Had some time this morning, so went to the motor factors and picked up a new battery. Platinum 250e - CCA 770 - 90Ah for £82

Got back home and removed the old battery, a 644? I mentioned this to the guy at the factors and he said that was a commercial battery :nenau

The 644 was about three inches longer than the 250e, was CCA 700 and had to have a made up bracket to hold it as it had no lugs on the bottom sides. Knowing who the Terrano came from the 644 was probably a battery he had kicking around somewhere, but when it was MOT'd it failed on an insecure battery and the garage charged him to make up a bracket.

So he saved a bit on a battery, but lost it on the MOT fail. So I am back to having the battery secured via the bottom plate with two bolts... well not quite true, I need another bolt as the garage welded some rod on one of the the original bolts :doh

I'll have to keep an eye out for a bolt, it looks the same as the ones that hold the running boards on :rolleyes:

[Paff]

This is going to sound silly, but I can't find a bolt at home or at my local parts shop :(

Has anyone got a bolt for the battery fixing bracket that they can post? Beer tokens available :thumb2

[rustic]

This is going to sound silly, but I can't find a bolt at home or at my local parts shop :(

Has anyone got a bolt for the battery fixing bracket that they can post? Beer tokens available :thumb2

I guess the originals are around M8.

Screwfix have nuts bolts etc, but you normally have to buy 100
It is also worth keeping a few lengths of all thread in various sizes to hand.

I made my second battery clamp using M6 all thread, and a length of galvanised roof hold down straps, from Wickes. Some self amalgamating tape over both... sorted.

[Blocky10]

This is going to sound silly, but I can't find a bolt at home or at my local parts shop :(

Has anyone got a bolt for the battery fixing bracket that they can post? Beer tokens available :thumb2
Are you venturing up to Naaaaridge? Cos I've got nuts and bolts kicking about as well as studding.

[jims-terrano]

Surely there will be one of our members that is breaking a truck or two that'll have a bolt?

Think Zippy has contact details for cncfabs, why botch a bolt when you can get an original.

[Paff]

Thanks!

All sorted, many thanks, you know who you are :thumb2

What a forum, thanks guys :clap

[Paff]

Jiffy bag plopped onto my mat yesterday and in it were two battery clamp bolts :D#

Many thanks, you know who you are, I owe you one:thumb2