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AlexD333
02-12-2014, 07:22
I feel I am now ready to join up a 4x4 response, no fear of the terrano drinking some water in normal use :lol

Question is, there appears to be so many groups, can someone link me the best site and also one that would be applicable for my surrounding areas.

I was about to sign up here, until they provided a drop down box with a huge list of response groups. :nenau

elty001
02-12-2014, 08:00
Pick the one nearest to you would probably be a good start mate.

elty001
02-12-2014, 08:01
Pick the one nearest to you would probably be a good start mate. :lol

terrano bob
02-12-2014, 09:12
Australia :thumbs

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 09:35
I think the question may have been read wrong, I was under the assumption that there are many organisations regardless of area? am I mistaken?

I e, is this the only website? :nenau :lol

I might do some silly things but im not that stupid :doh

Mark charlesworth
02-12-2014, 09:46
Hi Alex I'm a member of SE4x4 Response and we cover se and Kent we are one of the largest of the groups and a good bunch, 4x4 are a national group have a look on the web site, and as said join the one that's closest to you mate

terrano bob
02-12-2014, 09:49
google your area alex :thumbs

Ianinessex
02-12-2014, 09:56
This is the web site of the overall group. You will need to look at the map on this site and then contact the person in charge of your area. Their emails are all listed on the site.
In Essex, it is called the Essex Rover Rescue and guess what - they all have L-rs. I will be contacting them soon to see if I can widen their horizons. :naughty
Ian

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 10:01
Cheers chappies, I will be making contact through this site then :thumb2

Fez_uk
02-12-2014, 10:06
You only select that if you are a responder, it's just the forum anyway. Read the fill in form lol it says it there!! :doh :lol

As said above you still need to contact the group leader of your area to organise a training day/meet up to become a responder.

makeitfit
02-12-2014, 10:17
and get your bumpers, er I mean vehicle checked for suitability :lol:lol:lol

Banshee
02-12-2014, 10:17
Australia :thumbs

:lol

makeitfit
02-12-2014, 10:18
I'd happily do Australia :D

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 10:53
I'd happily do Australia :D

The open outback! :cool:

Banshee
02-12-2014, 12:49
The open outback! :cool:

They'd open you up at the back!!!!

Mark charlesworth
02-12-2014, 13:02
This might help you Alex

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 14:09
Rushing about at work, will have to check tonight, one option was "not registered as responder yet" which I chose. :thumb2

Barrbeast
02-12-2014, 14:16
As Fez said mate, that's just for joining the forum. You need to contact the group leader for your area if you want to be a responder.

Lazy-Ferret
02-12-2014, 14:24
There is an overall 4x4 response group (http://www.4x4response.info), who basically act as a council for all the groups spread around the country, so that eventually we will all conform to the same policies, public liability insurance and practices etc. You can't actually join "4x4 response", you join your local group, and membership of that group, provided they are a member their selves, will by default make you a member of "4x4Response".

One of the things they want to do is get rid of any specific references to a marque in the name, and get all the groups into the areas shown in the map above. This is still in the early stages yet, so you will often find groups that over lap, and some that as mentioned above specifically say they are a "Rover" group.

Currently there is the rather confusing list on the following page.

http://www.4x4response.info/?pid=groupregister

The other problem is, working out which is the best for you, so make sure you ask about them, and what sort of events they have assisted in, I know some groups admit they have not had a "Shout" in over 3 years!!!

I would think "Hampshire & Berkshire 4x4 Response" http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk would be your nearest.

Maybe

Hertfordshire 4x4 Response http://www.hertfordshire4x4response.org

Just as a word of warning, you will find some groups are a bit "snobby" about the cars they will use (apart from the obvious "Rover" groups), and for a lot of the work, which involves getting careers and emergency workers to and from work in bad weather, will tend to prefer SUV 4x4 style cars, as they think these are more acceptable to the general public. After that, quantity of seats becomes a deciding factor, as they want to get as many people as possible into each vehicle, when doing evacuations....

Also, you will need to attend about 3 training sessions, plus pass an appraisal on your driving ability, plus knowing how to use the features of your car, before you can be involved on any "shouts", so you will need to get your a$$ into gear if you want to be involved with anything this winter!!!


This is the web site of the overall group. You will need to look at the map on this site and then contact the person in charge of your area. Their emails are all listed on the site.
In Essex, it is called the Essex Rover Rescue and guess what - they all have L-rs. I will be contacting them soon to see if I can widen their horizons. :naughty
Ian

They were talking about this on the forum, and basically, most groups have realised that the future is not LandRover, and opening up their borders to the likes of "us"....:bow:lol

Fez_uk
02-12-2014, 14:50
Hate to be harsh but I will be surprised if they will allow him to join with his bumpers.

Lazy-Ferret
02-12-2014, 15:14
Hate to be harsh but I will be surprised if they will allow him to join with his bumpers.

Not sure.... To join SE4x4R, I had to provide MOT, Driving licence, and proof my insurance covers me for volunteer response work. Car wise, we have to prove everything is safe, e.g., stuff is fixed down in the boot, towing eyes are up to the job, etc, but I guess if his car passes an MOT, then they can't really say no.

Personally, I would be more worried when you are parked up in the car park with 20 police officers, who have nothing to do for half an hour, than walk round the cars, taking the "P" out of all the fittings, and looking the cars over. In the past, they have pulled a few of the guys up for having things like flashing Red or White lights (Only Amber is legal), and tyres sticking out past the wheel arches, but luckily, they tend to just point it out, so you can sort it, rather than write out a ticket.

terrano bob
02-12-2014, 15:31
we all no about alex mot :augie :thumbs

Ianinessex
02-12-2014, 15:55
They were talking about this on the forum, and basically, most groups have realised that the future is not LandRover, and opening up their borders to the likes of "us"....:bow:lol

I have just looked on the Essex Rover Recovery site and to be a member you have to be a member of the Essex Landrover Club. However it does mention that not all Rescue members have L-R's and that some members do have "other 4x4's". :sly

I think I will apply and see how far I can get. :cool:

Ian

Lazy-Ferret
02-12-2014, 15:58
we all no about alex mot :augie :thumbs

I must have missed that post...:eek:

Fez_uk
02-12-2014, 16:09
Not sure.... To join SE4x4R, I had to provide MOT, Driving licence, and proof my insurance covers me for volunteer response work. Car wise, we have to prove everything is safe, e.g., stuff is fixed down in the boot, towing eyes are up to the job, etc, but I guess if his car passes an MOT, then they can't really say no.


I bet they can still say no, Just because it passes a MOT does not make it legal to drive on the road.

All areas are a little different but we had our members look over each others vehicles (in not too much depth but mainly to see if suitable recovery points). Also to do NHS jobs in this area the vehicle had to be checked over by the council MOT place, my guess is they are stricter as I never had it done.

Also your last point is a very valid one too.

Hard to say what will happen, probably nothing but I would be surprised.

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 16:20
I cant imagine they will give any stick over bumpers, at the end of the day, its got an MOT and will get another with the bumpers on, dont forget my bumper has a winch in it now, and rear is not under such strick regulations.

We will see where it takes me. Being a good samaritan is good enough but would be nice to be in a group of rescuers. Me and the missus drove about when the bad flooding was about, we were driving down streets that were like rivers!

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 16:21
And cheers lazy ferret for the links and insight, very helpful! :)

Lazy-Ferret
02-12-2014, 16:54
I bet they can still say no, Just because it passes a MOT does not make it legal to drive on the road.


Very true, and so ironic....:doh

All areas are a little different but we had our members look over each others vehicles (in not too much depth but mainly to see if suitable recovery points). Also to do NHS jobs in this area the vehicle had to be checked over by the council MOT place, my guess is they are stricter as I never had it done.

Also your last point is a very valid one too.

Hard to say what will happen, probably nothing but I would be surprised.
That's a very good idea..

Until the central body gets every thing into gear, all the rules are set by the individual groups, so what is a safety check for one group, will be done differently by another. The problem is, if you put too many checks in place, it just becomes too many hoops to jump through, and too costly to join, so future members will not bother. Even now it takes about 3 months from joining, to actually be able to do anything productive.

Our Group seems to work far closer to the police, than the council, and we have to be police vetted to do most of the search and rescue, or care worker manoeuvres, so they are working on the person rather than the car and really the MOT and driver licence are more for their own insurance cover than much else. Having said that, the Council are starting to join in more now, and for parts of the county that become cut off, they have specified exactly the type of vehicles and minimum level of equipment that can be used to drive the emergency routes across the marshes.

Sweety
02-12-2014, 19:31
This thread has been a great read so far for info:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs i'm also starting to think of joining one of the response groups up here now i've got a 4x4 again:D
Just a little side note I know Alex's bumpers are a bit love/hate on here but this has been covered quite a few times in the past:augie but how about cutting him some slack as at the end of the day he's willing to give up his spare time to help others out:thumb2 just my 2p worth:hide:

zippy656
02-12-2014, 19:32
I was in wessesx call sign WE32.


Only left cause it got very politcal and back stabbing.

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 19:35
:D
Just a little side note I know Alex's bumpers are a bit love/hate on here but this has been covered quite a few times in the past:augie but how about cutting him some slack as at the end of the day he's willing to give up his spare time to help others out:thumb2 just my 2p worth:hide:

Just my thought, c'mon guys share the love n all eh, I'm not applying for a job in MI5 ;)

jims-terrano
02-12-2014, 19:40
How does it effect your insurnace premiums being part of these groups.

In raynet we were warned about insurance so easy option for me is I dont use my car to marshall or transport anyone.

Sweety
02-12-2014, 19:40
Just my thought, c'mon guys share the love n all eh, I'm not applying for a job in MI5 ;)

You should just think of the weapons which could be mounted to your bumpers:lol:lol:lol no believe it giving credit where it's due & the same go's to everyone else who give up their time to help others:clap

Lazy-Ferret
02-12-2014, 19:49
This thread has been a great read so far for info:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs i'm also starting to think of joining one of the response groups up here now i've got a 4x4 again:D
Just a little side note I know Alex's bumpers are a bit love/hate on here but this has been covered quite a few times in the past:augie but how about cutting him some slack as at the end of the day he's willing to give up his spare time to help others out:thumb2 just my 2p worth:hide:

OK Alex, stop using Sweety's account...:doh:lol:lol

How does it effect your insurnace premiums being part of these groups.

In raynet we were warned about insurance so easy option for me is I dont use my car to marshall or transport anyone.

Someone just asked this over in this thread...

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23923

makeitfit
02-12-2014, 21:50
Never had an issue in the past as it's not for hire or reward. Admittedly it's now on the policy but there was no fee.
Alex, just sign up to your area and go with the flow. There are some big heads around who reckon landie is the only way but that's not your issue. Scrutineering your truck though is a bit more open to conjecture !
Sign up anyway and enjoy some good training that's worth loads of money and gives you great skills.
IF you get a shout one day , take your time and enjoy :cool:
I only have one spare sest in my truck and it's never been an issue. What was more amusing though was trying to get an eighteen stone nurse into my bucket seats :lol I could see her shifting from one butt cheek to the other on the way to work but she never managed both :wasntme

AlexD333
02-12-2014, 22:01
Haha I love it, yes I will sign up and go with it, if they don't like it then fine, if they do then great, I wont be changing anything to suit anyone. :cool:

davenclaire
02-12-2014, 22:16
been there seen it done it burnt the T shirt yes inform your insurance company if something happens they will burn you alive

The Patrolman
02-12-2014, 23:22
I have just looked on the Essex Rover Recovery site and to be a member you have to be a member of the Essex Landrover Club. However it does mention that not all Rescue members have L-R's and that some members do have "other 4x4's". :sly

I think I will apply and see how far I can get. :cool:

Ian

Probably further than all but the best tricked up LR's and cirtainly with the windows up heaters on and clear windows:thumb2

Ianinessex
07-12-2014, 16:55
Probably further than all but the best tricked up LR's and cirtainly with the windows up heaters on and clear windows:thumb2

I have now joined the Essex 4x4 response group (Essex Rover Response). :clap. It turned out to be fairly simple, and with only 37 current members spread all over Essex they seemed quite keen to have me.

However somewhere along the way I seem to have become a member of the Essex L-R Club. :augie I hope this is not going to be a problem with me staying on this forum. :o

makeitfit
07-12-2014, 17:29
Essex L (landrover ) R (recovery ) Club :lol
Trol tastic :D

Lazy-Ferret
07-12-2014, 18:05
I have now joined the Essex 4x4 response group (Essex Rover Response). :clap. It turned out to be fairly simple, and with only 37 current members spread all over Essex they seemed quite keen to have me.

However somewhere along the way I seem to have become a member of the Essex L-R Club. :augie I hope this is not going to be a problem with me staying on this forum. :o

It's not a problem, just try not to catch anything, and pass it on here..:lol