new no tax disk crapp

[solarman216]

Well it seems we are now all reliant on the DVLA database being up to date and correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Well after transferring my insurance as of midnight tonight I am told that it can take up to 14 days before it is registered on the DVLA database, same with tax, so I park down town in a few days and some whatsit enters my reg only to discover that as yet it is not taxed or insured so clamps my motor, ready for confiscation, I am not there to argue, so what the F is going on, Rick

[AlexD333]

Oh crap, whats the latest? Did you leave it there? And you have definately paid up/legal ect?

[makeitfit]

Rick I fear for us all in the short term :o I've seen a lot of posts on faceache about cars not on the system for various reasons :doh However if I get ANY grief I'll use my car/truck as is till the bloody DVLA pull their collective finger right out. What's more I'm happy to sue the arse off them in court should I be penalised for their short comings :(
That said I'd take a screen shot of any online issues , just incase :thumbs

[AlexD333]

Yes always take pictures on your samsung phone, or the classic "record my call" is always a good one. All my important calls are saved and backed up on pc.

[rustic]

So... with the new tax disc rules... does that mean I can remove my tax disc even though it still has 9 months to run?


So to me, it doesn't look as though the government has thought this through...:doh
I can get a number plate with any number off the internet without any proof of ownership, and then put it on my car. These are called "Display or Show plates"...
So I choose the same model, one that looks as though it has been looked after, then on any PNC check it doesn't flag up any problems, I can now drive through speed cameras, and overstay car parks, knowing that they cannot be traced back to me.

In the old days, the traffic wardens or car park attendants could compare the reg to the licence disc, or flag up any Guinness labels, to the police, now there is no cross check.
There could be several vehicles driving around with the same reg...

The only check is the Vin Number, or chassis number, and let's face it, when were you stopped to have this checked?

Now here's a thought...
I could buy two identical cars, insure one for two drivers, same reg... and provided that both cars weren't on the same section of road or parked next to each other...

Now where can I buy a 19 year old Maverick in excellent condition like mine and clone it?
Hmmm, I knew there was a flaw in my theory...:doh

[Sweety]

From what the DVLA where saying before it all came into force was once you paid your road tax it would be on their system straight away, now I know it can take a few weeks for them to send you out your new log book but surely once you have paid the tax they know who's motor it is as the money comes straight out of your bank account (costs more via credit card) only thing I can think of is ring them in the morning because if you have to wait 14 days it's fraud on their part as they would be charging you 14 days tax for a vehicle they won't let you use on the road.
I'm not sure if I can legally take my tax disc off tomorrow or I have to wait until it runs out:confused: knew the system was coming into force & when but some details are very thin on the ground about it all:doh

[terrano bob]

Well it seems we are now all reliant on the DVLA database being up to date and correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Well after transferring my insurance as of midnight tonight I am told that it can take up to 14 days before it is registered on the DVLA database, same with tax, so I park down town in a few days and some whatsit enters my reg only to discover that as yet it is not taxed or insured so clamps my motor, ready for confiscation, I am not there to argue, so what the F is going on, Rick

don't worry rick that won't happon your insurance will have register all that :thumbs

[makeitfit]

Trouble is they use an insurance data base to validate your purchase. So if I insure online tonight it wont show on DVLA data base till the MIB do their bit, therefore you can't get tax. Before you could print out your covernote and get the disc at a P O S T O F F I C E , what ever they were :o

[cncfabs]

Nothings changed you just dont get a tax disc anymore.If you still have one chuck it in the bin:clap

[AlexD333]

Sorry did I miss something here or read it wrong? I thought ricks terrano has been clamped?

[makeitfit]

Sorry did I miss something here or read it wrong? I thought ricks terrano has been clamped?

I read it that Rick was being hypothetical :)

[AlexD333]

I read it that Rick was being hypothetical :)

I thought he said a few days after it has now been clamped.

Actually reading it again it could be either :nenau

[makeitfit]

He's probably had malt or two :D

[AlexD333]

He's probably had malt or two :D

Or more :sly :naughty

[Sweety]

I thought he said a few days after it has now been clamped.

Actually reading it again it could be either :nenau

Read it all again Alex:lol Rick has just put an MOT on & set up the insurance to start at midnight (1/10/14) & you can't tax a motor without test or insurance:augie Quote " so (IF think this was missing) I park down town in a few days and some whatsit enters my reg only to discover that as yet it is not taxed or insured so clamps my motor" it's a hypothetical question:augie

[firebobby]

I have noticed a lot more ANPR cameras around, Marlow bypass has plenty now

[elty001]

Taxed mine online today. Was on my reminder about not being issued a tax disc after 1 st October.
Got the confirmation email saved and printed off as proof. Gonna feel lost for a while with nothing in the corner of the window.

[terrano bob]

we all new this was going to happen :thumbs

[Sweety]

I have noticed a lot more ANPR cameras around, Marlow bypass has plenty now

They have been putting loads up around here over the last few months & they've went OTT on the A1 next to the Metrocentre not just ANPR but average speed cameras as well as they have dropped that section of the A1 to a 40 limit:doh

Elty you could leave your old tax disc on to confuse people

[makeitfit]

we all new this was going to happen :thumbs

Indeed , and I'm glad to get that scrap of paper off my screen too :D

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

well paid for mine to last til end of jan, so it will stay on til then, might leave it on longer
but by then wont be as confusing.

so whats next beer mats for hell of it, or piece of paper saying tax in internet, bit like
trotter's in the post.

will it be legal to have club logo or will vosa say its only ok, or was to have legal docs
in swept area?......

[firebobby]

They have been putting loads up around here over the last few months & they've went OTT on the A1 next to the Metrocentre not just ANPR but average speed cameras as well as they have dropped that section of the A1 to a 40 limit:doh

Ah, the good old cash cow motorist, their spending millions££ on bloody bike lanes and narrowing roads to allow wider bike lanes....where the fook do they get the money to waste on all this, oh yeah, the motorist who they appear to be running off the road :doh :(

[terrano bob]

Indeed , and I'm glad to get that scrap of paper off my screen too :D

and me :thumbs

[elty001]

Ah, the good old cash cow motorist, their spending millions££ on bloody bike lanes and narrowing roads to allow wider bike lanes....where the fook do they get the money to waste on all this, oh yeah, the motorist who they appear to be running off the road :doh :(

Wider bike lanes :thumbs
After seeing the size of some of the rear ends of the cyclists the other week over in hope valley they should start making lycra shorts with wide load printed on the back :lol

[Sweety]

Well there is no bike or bus lanes on the A1 think they dropped the limit from 70 because people can't seem to drive this easy section of road & to make some big money from the thousands of vehicles that use it every day.
The DVLA is a joke when it comes to the road tax anyway know someone who's tax ran out in August yet she hasn't been done by the DVLA or even stopped by the police:doh

[terrano bob]

are you saying I can take my paper tax discs out now its tax till December :confused: :thumbs

[firebobby]

Well there is no bike or bus lanes on the A1 think they dropped the limit from 70 because people can't seem to drive this easy section of road & to make some big money from the thousands of vehicles that use it every day.
The DVLA is a joke when it comes to the road tax anyway know someone who's tax ran out in August yet she hasn't been done by the DVLA or even stopped by the police:doh

Must admit, our MOT ran out on one of our cars by nearly 2 months, we went to Gatwick airport twice, Heathrow once up and down the motorway many times and into lots of towns :augie:augie

[makeitfit]

are you saying I can take my paper tax discs out now its tax till December :confused: :thumbs

Yep :rolleyes:

[firebobby]

Wider bike lanes :thumbs
After seeing the size of some of the rear ends of the cyclists the other week over in hope valley they should start making lycra shorts with wide load printed on the back :lol

Don't get me wrong, I ride a bike and have no beef with responsible cyclists, but these new bike lanes are super smooth highways, when what's left of the original highway is in a shit condition...potholes and scars :nenau

[terrano bob]

Yep :rolleyes:

thanks :thumbs

[exosteve]

Mines staying where it is.I played a lot for it.

[terrano bob]

:lol:lol:lol :thumbs

[Sweety]

Just been out & took mine off:D it's ok guy's truck isn't parked on the road:augie

[terrano bob]

mine off now:lol:lol :thumbs

[Sweety]

mine off now:lol:lol :thumbs

You rebel you got 3 mins to go:lol:lol:lol

[terrano bob]

ho no :thumbs

[terrano bob]

that's it end of an-era :D :thumbs

[Sweety]

Never liked the things anyway plus had to have it up the screen far to far for my liking so the wiper blade & the writing on the windscreen didn't block the view of the tax disc as the police up here loved giving you a ticket for it if they could

[Paff]

I thought this was funny... I was just checking online to see when my tax ran out.

Got this error screen.

Welcome to DVLA's Vehicle Licensing Online
Site/Services Unavailable

DVLA is sorry the service is currently unavailable due to essential maintenance.

You can:

Try again later or apply in person at a Post Office® branch that issue tax discs. You will need the following:
A MoT or Goods Vehicle Test (GVT) certificate, if you need one for your vehicle. This must be valid on the date the tax disc starts.
The payment for vehicle tax (unless your vehicle is a type that you do not have to pay vehicle tax for).
A valid exemption certificate if you are applying to tax the vehicle in the disabled tax class. (This does not apply to invalid carriages).
For vehicles registered to a Northern Ireland address you must also take an insurance certificate or cover note.

Maybe they are updating to not mention tax disks :naughty

[rustic]

Taken from the DVLA website...

Selling a vehicle
From 1 October, vehicle tax is not transferable so you won’t be able to include any remaining tax when you sell a vehicle. If you sell a vehicle after 1 October and you have notified DVLA, you will automatically get a refund for any full remaining months left on the vehicle tax. The refund will be sent to the keepers details on DVLA records so you need to make sure that these are correct.

[R1cho]

what about when they scrap the paper licence? how many people will be scrapped from driving? and have to re-apply and re-do their test, it's all fine for them to say its saving money etc. but a database isn't 100% accurate just 1hr down time can cause no end of problems and i say this as a website site owner that has recently had database issues, they are playing with a system that was fine and replacing it with a new system that isn't

[briggie]

well , I rung motobility last night , and they say its probably best to still display my tax disc ( runs out aug 2015 ) :confused:

[AlexD333]

what about when they scrap the paper licence? how many people will be scrapped from driving? and have to re-apply and re-do their test, it's all fine for them to say its saving money etc. but a database isn't 100% accurate just 1hr down time can cause no end of problems and i say this as a website site owner that has recently had database issues, they are playing with a system that was fine and replacing it with a new system that isn't

An also if hackers get to it like they did with Microsoft and ps3 network there will be huge problems. Imagine if it got wiped! :eek: :naughty

[Fez_uk]

I believe vehicles cannot be clamped anymore, Was introduced a while back...

[terrano bob]

well , I rung motobility last night , and they say its probably best to still display my tax disc ( runs out aug 2015 ) :confused:

it's ok brigge remove it mate :thumbs

[solarman216]

Wow so much interest, should of guessed, cannot comment on all posts, be here all night, "makitfit" I taxed it at a PO with no insurance certificate, their comment was if it is not insured the tax will be rejected, yes Alex it was hypowhatsit, I have not had a chance yet to check the DVLA to see the details on my car, will do it so now, Rick

[solarman216]

Well surprise surprise, this service is currently unavailable, so the system is a shambles, did not really expect any different, Rick

[terrano bob]

Wow so much interest, should of guessed, cannot comment on all posts, be here all night, "makitfit" I taxed it at a PO with no insurance certificate, their comment was if it is not insured the tax will be rejected, yes Alex it was hypowhatsit, I have not had a chance yet to check the DVLA to see the details on my car, will do it so now, Rick

you started something there rick :lol:lol:lol :thumbs

[solarman216]

you started something there rick :lol:lol:lol :thumbs

Nah not me mate, but the corrupt prats that are supposed to be running this country, piss up in a brewery comes to mind, Rick

[terrano bob]

Nah not me mate, but the corrupt prats that are supposed to be running this country, piss up in a brewery comes to mind, Rick

yep :lol:lol:lol :thumbs