new shed base

[briggie]

http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y311/phuctiphino/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2214_zps798c3ecc.jpg (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/phuctiphino/media/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2214_zps798c3ecc.jpg.html)

[briggie]

just gotta save up for a shed now :augie:lol:lol

[AlexD333]

Terrano wont fit in that :augie

[bry]

How much Ballast did you need after all?

[briggie]

How much Ballast did you need after all?

15 bags of ballast ...... its a 8ft x 6ft base :thumb2

[rustic]

I laid flagstones for mine, been fine for nearly 19 years...
But I wouldn't like do do one now though...:doh

I see, from the shadow of the line post, that the grass and surrounding concrete is higher than the base, make sure any water can run off to save any puddles acumulating which could rot any timbers in contact with the base.

What I did, was place timber bearers on rubber strips, to give a slight gap and prevent contact with water.

With yours, you might want to dig down around the edges and make a soak away, old hardcore gravel etc.

So is this going to be a radio shack, or garden storage?
Maybe a bolt hole, fridge, TV, heater, wifi ...?

best regards,

Rustic

[Banshee]

I laid flagstones for mine, been fine for nearly 19 years...
But I wouldn't like do do one now though...:doh



We are on about garden shed's here Rustic not yours :lol

[rustic]

We are on about garden shed's here Rustic not yours :lol

Damn.. I've been rumbled...
We had the shed on flags for only 18 years, but I couldn't help writing "19 years" getting to be a habit, it took me a year to stop writing 18 years...lol
:lol:lol
Can't wait till next year it'll be 20 years... with luck..:eek:

PS.. sent you a PM on another issue...
Thanks,

Best regards,
Richard (Rustic)

[Banshee]

Damn.. I've been rumbled...
We had the shed on flags for only 18 years, but I couldn't help writing "19 years" getting to be a habit, it took me a year to stop writing 18 years...lol
:lol:lol
Can't wait till next year it'll be 20 years... with luck..:eek:

PS.. sent you a PM on another issue...
Thanks,

Best regards,
Richard (Rustic)

So you have!!!!!

Sorry bud, since I've started to use Tapatlk on my phone some of my messages seem to slip through the net :doh

[briggie]

ok chaps , I appear to have a swimming pool rather than a shed base :(... cant afford to have the chaps back again ( cost me £160 last time ) ...... so I need advice on how to stop this big puddle happening ( its bigger than it looks in the photo )

http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y311/phuctiphino/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2217_zps7b29d8a9.jpg (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/phuctiphino/media/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2217_zps7b29d8a9.jpg.html)

[briggie]

http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y311/phuctiphino/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2216_zps86a0fd02.jpg (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/phuctiphino/media/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2216_zps86a0fd02.jpg.html)

[rustic]

ok chaps , I appear to have a swimming pool rather than a shed base :(... cant afford to have the chaps back again ( cost me £160 last time ) ...... so I need advice on how to stop this big puddle happening ( its bigger than it looks in the photo )

http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y311/phuctiphino/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2217_zps7b29d8a9.jpg (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/phuctiphino/media/shed%20beginnings/DSCF2217_zps7b29d8a9.jpg.html)

I anticipated that problem, see post 6
Dig down around the perimeter, and fill with hard core or gravel, or you could wear ...... " Pumps"....:lol

[briggie]

I would have thought the base should have been higher than ground level to stop this

[rustic]

I would have thought the base should have been higher than ground level to stop this

Ideally, or you could use some engineering bricks, that don't absorb water, to rest your timber bearers on, or put some plastic or rubber between the brick and the timber.

:thumb2

[Paff]

Should have been hardcore, raised boards, then concrete. Always better to have a base that is higher than the surrounding ground. Not good just to cut out a hole in the ground and fill. Why not call them back and explain that you now have a swimming pool? Did they know what they were doing?

:down:

[briggie]

all I wanted was a concrete base to put a shed on ffs ...... not a swimming pool .....or grief

[briggie]

really nissed off now ...... im not normally like this , but had enough , all I wanted was a shed base ffs ......am I expecting too much ?. didn't expect all this trouble

[firebobby]

If you payed someone to lay the base, it should at least be level Pete, call them and explain the problem...put the ball in their court.
As Rustic has said, a bit of a shingle pit around the edge should help

[AlexD333]

If you payed someone to lay the base, it should at least be level Pete, call them and explain the problem...put the ball in their court.
As Rustic has said, a bit of a shingle pit around the edge should help

Yeah, I think a nice gentle phone all is in order, see what they want to do.

If they outright refuse then you could get shirty.

Have you any definitive way of checking if it's flat, say with a level? :nenau

[briggie]

ok , so I rung the guys up , they said they " might " come up to look at it , and see how much " extra work " will be needed .......... I have a feeling that this is gonna cost me :rolleyes:

[clivvy]

unbelievable. as soon as I saw the first photo just now I knew it was wrong. You can see clearly the run off and it should ideally be higher than the ground its dug into, not saying these guys don't know what they are doing but they simply haven't done this right at all IMO.

When I did mine, like Rustic, I used strategically placed flags then a wood frame - making it a good few inches higher than the soil that surrounds it. I then built my decking to level it up - no issues with water ingress.

IN this instance, they should have used hardcore to build it on, concrete on top a couple of inches higher OR dug out around the structure and put in gravel to drain away water.

Peter, if they don't fix it, as mentioned before, just dig around it and fill with pea gravel or similar - it will look nice but will drain away the water from the wood. all is not lost, and don't go paying any silly money, gravel will be less than £20.

[macabethiel]

It's an extra cost but you could put 50mm slabs on top to raise the level or simply put some shuttering round the side and raise it with some extra concrete.

[firebobby]

The slab is not level, it sits low on the far corner of the 1st picture, not where the ground is higher than the concrete, so they have no done a good job.
If it's a firm, they should complete the work a standard that is not what you have Pete.

[briggie]

The slab is not level, it sits low on the far corner of the 1st picture, not where the ground is higher than the concrete, so they have no done a good job.
If it's a firm, they should complete the work a standard that is not what you have Pete.

its not a firm , its two men who work for a landscaping company , and doing it in their spare time ( sunday )

[AlexD333]

This is a real shame, it's clearly their fault but by the sounds of it, like me, you don't wanna have a confrontation about it...

I would still try and point out that it's brand new and was laid like this..

[briggie]

unbelievable. as soon as I saw the first photo just now I knew it was wrong. You can see clearly the run off and it should ideally be higher than the ground its dug into, not saying these guys don't know what they are doing but they simply haven't done this right at all IMO.

When I did mine, like Rustic, I used strategically placed flags then a wood frame - making it a good few inches higher than the soil that surrounds it. I then built my decking to level it up - no issues with water ingress.

IN this instance, they should have used hardcore to build it on, concrete on top a couple of inches higher OR dug out around the structure and put in gravel to drain away water.

Peter, if they don't fix it, as mentioned before, just dig around it and fill with pea gravel or similar - it will look nice but will drain away the water from the wood. all is not lost, and don't go paying any silly money, gravel will be less than £20.

thanks clive , don't really have a option on this , ..... no way can I use a spade safely ..... so I gotta get those guys back ...... or someone else , and pay them to do extra work ....... I don't mind paying if the job is done properly , but this has already cost me £160 so far ....and is gonna cost me more ...bluddie expensive shed base ......thanks for all the advice anyway chaps :thumb2....will see what /if/and when the lads come back to look at it

[jonela]

I have been watching the replies to this thread and its very interesting. whenever people have work done, what people think should be done and how much people think it should cost always varies, some times vastly.but in real life there are only two options if you want it done right. Do it yourself properly. and if you can't or don't know how to do it properly, Pay someone to do it properly.:rolleyes:

The next problem is how do you know they will do it properly and how much dose properly cost
If you get a bloke you know from the pub who's not working after loosing his job as a tyre fitter to do it cos he will do it for £100 and a few beers then don't be surprised when it all go's wrong:homer
Ask someone who knows what they are talking about how much they think it will cost , you may not like the answer ,as proper job means proper money!

I would suggest to have a proper base built for a good shed,expect to pay at least the same as the shed cost

However If you get someone who purports to be a professional then you expect a professional job,don't pay extra just because they didn't know what they were doing. if they won't put it right free tel them to do one! as you cant be sure what the do will be any better.
If that's the case I would go with what rustic said ,The engineering bricks with a bit of DPC between them and the shed base.:thumbs

[Paff]

...If that's the case I would go with what rustic said ,The engineering bricks with a bit of DPC between them and the shed base.:thumbs

Shed may still not sit square on the uneven base, may need packing to stop any movement. :nenau

[jims-terrano]

Pete, if you can wait until august and are happy to buy some gravel then im happy to come up and dig around it for you buddy. For the grand price of the odd pot of tea, one sugar and milk please :thumb2

[briggie]

Pete, if you can wait until august and are happy to buy some gravel then im happy to come up and dig around it for you buddy. For the grand price of the odd pot of tea, one sugar and milk please :thumb2

you welcome anytime jim mate , you know that ......... its only cos you wanna play radio up here really isn't it ? :augie:lol:lol

[jims-terrano]

you welcome anytime jim mate , you know that ......... its only cos you wanna play radio up here really isn't it ? :augie:lol:lol

Haha got my icom on charge pal:thumbs

Could string a dipole up and bring my 857 but we would get no work done pal:lol

[briggie]

my ft 817nd is charged up jim :thumb2