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Paul
23-10-2008, 21:50
Just wondering how many vans members have had on here?
as Neil said not long ago I was not that keen on caravans! but after only a short time with our first one now looking for a bigger one.
I mean not just buying them to sell on but to use..

Paul.

extreme-4x4
23-10-2008, 22:13
in the last 8 years my dad has had

a caravan
a transit camper
a fiat camper
a caravan
a camper

so now he just has a van Royce caravan and a new camper (unknown not seen it yet)..... both kept in heated garage and room for my sisters caravan too

and he is in the van royce owners club and goes to rallies he's nearly 70 and the youngest at every meet.

i tend to look after his house when he goes , its safer knowing when all these really old farts are dragging big boxes up the motorway



hail clarkson lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

makeitfit
23-10-2008, 22:33
tin tent shooting next weekend anyone :?:
hail clarkson :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Paul
23-10-2008, 22:35
tin tent shooting next weekend anyone :?:
hail clarkson :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

8O Where.. (Don't tell Christine) :lol:

jims-terrano
23-10-2008, 23:00
I had 3 getting bigger each time, now I just long for one. I had my first one for about a year before upgrading to a bigger and better one.

Jim T

extreme-4x4
23-10-2008, 23:05
I had 3 getting bigger each time, now I just long for one. I had my first one for about a year before upgrading to a bigger and better one.

Jim T

yes but i think the question is about caravans :!: 8O

andrewk
23-10-2008, 23:43
Just wondering how many vans members have had on here?

Hi Paul,

We've had three.

An old Silverline that we bought from a neighbour - kept it for a couple of years just to try and decide whether caravanning was for us. In 1992, we bought a new Lunar Saturn which we kept for 14 years. In Feb 2006, we bought a new Burstner S500TS which we still have.

All of them were kept in storage on Narrowgate Farm - just round the corner from you. :smile:

Cheers
Andrew

Thomas-the-Terrano2
24-10-2008, 09:49
crickey thats a challange.

at the moment our back garden is home to 3! ours, my dad's and dad in laws'. visitors say it looks like south yorkshire caravans, the local dealer! i prefer to call it a very select certified location...

since been at full time again as an adult in 95.

had access to father inlaw's 3, all 2 berth 12 footers from elddis, swift and abi.
father's 2, 12 foot 2b monza and 14' 5b sprite.
our own lunar 2b 12'.

prior to that parents had 12' 5d astral bought new in about 71 for £345 no vat then, 27' 8 b static by ace if that counts - would have loved to try towing it lol considering some tourers are about that size now. and a couple of camper vans, by ford and vw.

when i was at poly i bought and lived in a 15' 5b panther towed few times.

theres a guy at end of our road and i reckon he has had 5 in a year steadily upgrading, and a ford motorhome project.

Paul
24-10-2008, 10:58
Andrew, where abouts is Narrowgate Farm? please.

rbrt, 3 vans in your back garden.. 8O some back garden.. :lol:

Jocky
24-10-2008, 11:04
Had 3

Lunar Arriane in 2003 to see if we liked caravanning

New Bailey Pageant S5 Provence in 2005

and last month a new Bailey Pageant S7 Limousin 8)

So it looks like we like caravanning :smile:

:smile:

Paul
24-10-2008, 11:06
Had 3

Lunar Arriane in 2003 to see if we liked caravanning

New Bailey Pageant S5 Provence in 2005

and last month a new Bailey Pageant S7 Limousin 8)

So it looks like we like caravanning :smile:

:smile:
You could say that.. :lol: :lol:

zippy656
24-10-2008, 12:37
i b eon my second.
first bailey clifton 5 birth,. was ok, to see if we got on with it.

then 2005 new discovery 400. now sat in drive way.

Zippy

Thomas-the-Terrano2
24-10-2008, 12:40
no garden isnt that big, the parking area is about 34x24, with sligthly less in front as a patio. so the 2 2 berths just fit one behind the other and the 15' is at other side. can just about squeeze t2 down the middle. house dates back to time round ww2 when bigger gardens were provided for growing your own. its just i prefer to grow vans :lol:

probably get another one in if you want, shall we say fiver a week.... 8O

P40MRT
24-10-2008, 13:22
We've got a 2004 Abbey Archway 520 Royale at the moment. Bought about 18 months ago, it's a 4 berth, end washroom, motor-mover equipped, GRP-sided and aluminium window-framed dealer special from White Arches in Rushden. I need a bit of luxury now I'm approaching 40! We used to tow with a '53 Volvo S60 D5 SE auto, but now it'll be the Maverick.
Our trade-in for that was a '92 Elddis Mistral XL 2 berth, and the towcar was a '55 Chrysler PT Cruiser 2.4GT.
Before that was a 5 berth tent that's still in the loft.
Before that we had a Dandy 5 folding camper and a '52 Citroen C3 1.4HDi 16v towcar.
Before that was a '70 Castleton Rovana 2 berth which we towed with a '73 Triumph 1500 fwd!
Our first was an '85 Adria 400B 2 berth back in about 1999, with a '98 Skoda Felicia 1.9D Pickup as a tug.

Next (but not for a few years!) will probably be a Ducato-based fixed bed motorhome...

Dale

knotting_pot
24-10-2008, 13:28
None yet! Borrowed my old mans back in the 70's and my sister in law's in the 90's. I keep looking from time to time but cannot make up my mind whether to spend under or over £250!

andrewk
24-10-2008, 13:41
Andrew, where abouts is Narrowgate Farm? please.

rbrt, 3 vans in your back garden.. 8O some back garden.. :lol:


Head from traffic lights in centre of Royon towards Rochdale. Turn right at next set of traffic lights up Dogford Road. It's on the right, about a quarter of a mile up the hill (about 200 yards short of the Puckersley pub).

Cheers
Andrew

dinky
24-10-2008, 13:49
3 vans sprite 400,coachman vip presently a buccaneer elan 14. best was coachman but slightly modified it coming off holiday(sunroof where toilet used to be).numerous tents but knees forced me to comfort. Use van all year round and prefer 5 van sites for peace and quiet.Best towing vehicle been terrano.

Paul
24-10-2008, 19:32
Thanks Andrew.

jims-terrano
24-10-2008, 19:54
I had 3 getting bigger each time, now I just long for one. I had my first one for about a year before upgrading to a bigger and better one.

Jim T

yes but i think the question is about caravans :!: 8O

I wondered how long before someone commented -rotfl-

Paul
24-10-2008, 19:58
I had 3 getting bigger each time, now I just long for one. I had my first one for about a year before upgrading to a bigger and better one.

Jim T

yes but i think the question is about caravans :!: 8O

I wondered how long before someone commented -rotfl-
Thought his comment was a bit exterme myself!! -rotfl- -rotfl- (SORRY) :lol:

(RIP) PLANK
24-10-2008, 20:22
well i saw the title 'vans' and i got excited i've had more transits than you can shake a stick at :lol:

I know we have done this before bu the abbreviation to van allways looses me, perhaps it is as i own both carvans and vans?

Anyway as foe caravans i have no idea how many i have owned i have had 3 this week :wink:

That is, Sold one i owned, bought two and will soon be selling my other one, does that make any sense?

Paul
24-10-2008, 20:29
well i saw the title 'vans' and i got excited i've had more transits than you can shake a stick at :lol:

Transit vans always remind me of when they was used for bank job's, when they first came out. :lol: The good old day's :lol: (Not that I was there then or anything..) :lol:

Deleted account DD
24-10-2008, 20:34
In total 5 caravans, like everyone else, bigger each time :lol: is that part of growing up :?:

Had all sorts, started off with a 1970's sprite Alpine ( in the 80's)and just recently a Bailey pageant 7 twin axle ...................... loving it 8)

Thermostat
27-10-2008, 15:54
lol :lol:

Me too

Just got to convince the wife that scarborough is better than Greece Turkey ETC.

I'm working on it :!:

(RIP) PLANK
29-10-2008, 13:29
with htis being the first rel bit of winter we have had so far I am finding it a bit chilly in the caravan at the moment!

it ok when your on mains electricity and can plug in a heater from home, but despite what the brochures say blow air heating isnt all its craked up to be!, It flattens you battery in no time for a start!

have you noticed how gas never runs out at a convienient time? allways in the middle of the night or the middle of cooking dinner? :wink:

Paul
29-10-2008, 13:47
have you noticed how gas never runs out at a convienient time? allways in the middle of the night or the middle of cooking dinner? :wink:

The other weekend :roll: Good to know it's not just our luck then.. :wink:

andrewk
29-10-2008, 13:55
it ok when your on mains electricity and can plug in a heater from home, but despite what the brochures say blow air heating isnt all its craked up to be!

The gas (and elec) blown warm air in the Burstner I have is amazing. According to the dealer, it's designed to maintain temperature when its as cold as -15degC outside. When I bought it new in 2006, we went away to North Wales in Feb and the temperature was around freezing (and it snowed) for 4 days. The gas warm air was fantastic - but we did use a whole 6kg propane cylinder in 3 days (I'd use 13kg cylinders, but it puts the noseweight way over 100kg).

We spent a couple of weeks at Easter away this year, at Cruachan Farm which is near Killin at the eastern end of Loch Tay. It was cold most of the time and snowed on three or four days. We used the blown warm air with electric (2kw) and gas together - and a full 6kg gas cylinder lasted nearly the whole fortnight.

It depends on the caravan, I think.

Cheers
Andrew

(RIP) PLANK
03-11-2008, 18:14
AndrewK, read carefully, you obviously had mains electricity to back up your battery! otherwise the battery goes falt very quickly using the blow air fan!

Last week we were in the middle of the coldest snap of weather anywhere in the UK and in a very open location with little cover, not an organised site and one or two nights it was very cold, when the temperatures came back to normal it was as usual OK

I do find this mine is better than yours thing a bit childish mate! virtualy all caravans are the same these days, same heaters same insulation same water heaters etc. etc. just variations on a theme. Though i can understaqnd when you have read all the brochures, paid ytur deposit and have another 48 x minthly payments to go the ,onger you can keep the proud as punch feeling the better.

I have been buying selling, and living in caravans all of my life and have spent more nights in one than i have in a house, but what would i know? i have never bought a brand new one!

But as we have had this discussion before i will add to those who missed it, the more modern your caravan the more mains dependent it is, the battry charging system for one thing, can flatten the battery by itself without any assistance from you!

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 18:29
We were away this weekend, bit damned chilly but stayed warm and comfy in the van.

Youre right plank, we are very mains dependant. Whenever I pitch up anywhere I can live without site showers toilets etc (on board) so long as I've got a cold water supply and 240v :wink: oh and beer in the fridge 8)

So much for roughing it :lol:

Paul
03-11-2008, 18:40
We were away this weekend, bit damned chilly but stayed warm and comfy in the van.

Youre right plank, we are very mains dependant. Whenever I pitch up anywhere I can live without site showers toilets etc (on board) so long as I've got a cold water supply and 240v :wink: oh and beer in the fridge 8)

So much for roughing it :lol:
What else is a caravan fridge for? :wink:
Looked at one van over the weekend 28 feet long..10 feet wide.. No water :cry:

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 20:35
No water? youve lost me mate, I'm having a thick moment :lol:

Paul
03-11-2008, 20:48
No water? youve lost me mate, I'm having a thick moment :lol:
They call them a dry caravan like this one..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOBBY-620-PRESTIGE-5-BERTH-CARAVAN-2002_W0QQitemZ140279191329QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 140279191329&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
The one we looked at is called a Roma inside is just like a bungalow :lol:

extreme-4x4
03-11-2008, 20:59
No water? youve lost me mate, I'm having a thick moment :lol:
They call them a dry caravan like this one..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOBBY-620-PRESTIGE-5-BERTH-CARAVAN-2002_W0QQitemZ140279191329QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 140279191329&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
The one we looked at is called a Roma inside is just like a bungalow :lol:


well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan

Paul
03-11-2008, 21:01
No water? youve lost me mate, I'm having a thick moment :lol:
They call them a dry caravan like this one..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOBBY-620-PRESTIGE-5-BERTH-CARAVAN-2002_W0QQitemZ140279191329QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 140279191329&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
The one we looked at is called a Roma inside is just like a bungalow :lol:


well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan 8O 8O I was the same till I met this lot on here.. -rotfl- -rotfl-

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 21:02
With you :oops: I have seen those not my cup of tea got to be honest :wink:

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 21:04
well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan

You need educating :smile: nothing like the feeling of a twin axle behind you 8O

extreme-4x4
03-11-2008, 21:20
well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan

You need educating :smile: nothing like the feeling of a twin axle behind you 8O

see thats it in a nut shell, why do you need to drag one around... when you can rent a sited one. its cheaper, no maintenance, dont need a big truck to pull one


i just dont see the point in owning a caravan, and despite being a tiny nuisance on the road, they are often really unsightly in front gardens and driveways etc... that the bit i find selfish about caravans.

if i put a big container in my front garden the neighbors ( if i had any) would rightly complain

as stated in another post they are a fire hazard in gardens they should not be allowed there are building regs for sheds for fire hazard etc but not caravans... they should be put into caravan storage places...

thats it end of moan :?

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 21:37
Biggest problem with your theory is mine isnt kept in the garden :lol:

Deleted Member D
03-11-2008, 21:38
well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan

You need educating :smile: nothing like the feeling of a twin axle behind you 8O

see thats it in a nut shell, why do you need to drag one around... when you can rent a sited one. its cheaper, no maintenance, dont need a big truck to pull one


i just dont see the point in owning a caravan, and despite being a tiny nuisance on the road, they are often really unsightly in front gardens and driveways etc... that the bit i find selfish about caravans.

if i put a big container in my front garden the neighbors ( if i had any) would rightly complain

as stated in another post they are a fire hazard in gardens they should not be allowed there are building regs for sheds for fire hazard etc but not caravans... they should be put into caravan storage places...

thats it end of moan :?Your posts seem to contradict themselves bud. :?

:lol:
come on guys lets just keep this post open for the caravaners of the world, we seem to spoil all the caravan posts, and it just seems a little unfair

i too don't like them on the roads , but hey if that's there thing lets not knock it,

it should be a giggle reading how they have improved caravans with full size cookers, fridges , heating showers etc... so lets see if they have found a nice way to empty the toilet




extreme



_________________
i have a 98 twin light maverick 2.7tdi

and a 94 terrano td, big wheels and covererd in an inch of mud
.................................................. .................................................. .....

So whats it to be ? Leave them alone or wind them up ? :lol:

(RIP) PLANK
03-11-2008, 22:32
a lot of confused stuff in there!

there are no regs for sheds!
and if its miore than 15 meters form your house you can build a 'shed' of any materials that covers half the area of your garden with no planning permission, no buuilding regs required as long as it is not to be a dewlling!


that is current planning law!

now a caravan is a road vehicle and as such is subject ot all kind of regulations! and when parked on your own property no bigger than a transit van or simmilar and perfectly legal.

I think some people take top gear antics too seriously :lol:

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 22:37
pheww I was worrying about my shed :lol:

In all seriousness its each to their own and dont get up tight about someone elses interests.

Good example is I hate Spanish "sunshine resort holidays" doesnt mean I'm right and several hundred thousand people are wrong . I'll cheerfully see them off at the airport because it leaves more space over here for MY CARAVAN :lol: :lol: :lol:

You a van dealer plank :?:

(RIP) PLANK
03-11-2008, 22:39
We were away this weekend, bit damned chilly but stayed warm and comfy in the van.

Youre right plank, we are very mains dependant. Whenever I pitch up anywhere I can live without site showers toilets etc (on board) so long as I've got a cold water supply and 240v :wink: oh and beer in the fridge 8)

So much for roughing it :lol:
What else is a caravan fridge for? :wink:
Looked at one van over the weekend 28 feet long..10 feet wide.. No water :cry:

Paul, by the weekend you had missed all of the clod weather it was positivley balmy by then :lol:

I have spent many happy times in the carvans you describe as 'dry' correctly known as travellers trailers, to be honest i have never understood the need for al the attatchments and gadgets, of a wet van, we never use any of them they are just there! i do have a water pump but it is in the gas bottle locker and has never been plugged in!

I used to have one caravan an old buccaneer with all the cut glass an leather and it had a wood burning stove, that was both fantastic and damn hard work at the same time, it is both missed and fondly remembered but I dont want another :wink:

extreme-4x4
03-11-2008, 22:42
well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan

You need educating :smile: nothing like the feeling of a twin axle behind you 8O

see thats it in a nut shell, why do you need to drag one around... when you can rent a sited one. its cheaper, no maintenance, dont need a big truck to pull one


i just dont see the point in owning a caravan, and despite being a tiny nuisance on the road, they are often really unsightly in front gardens and driveways etc... that the bit i find selfish about caravans.

if i put a big container in my front garden the neighbors ( if i had any) would rightly complain

as stated in another post they are a fire hazard in gardens they should not be allowed there are building regs for sheds for fire hazard etc but not caravans... they should be put into caravan storage places...

thats it end of moan :?Your posts seem to contradict themselves bud. :?

:lol:
come on guys lets just keep this post open for the caravaners of the world, we seem to spoil all the caravan posts, and it just seems a little unfair

i too don't like them on the roads , but hey if that's there thing lets not knock it,

it should be a giggle reading how they have improved caravans with full size cookers, fridges , heating showers etc... so lets see if they have found a nice way to empty the toilet




extreme



_________________
i have a 98 twin light maverick 2.7tdi

and a 94 terrano td, big wheels and covererd in an inch of mud
.................................................. .................................................. .....

So whats it to be ? Leave them alone or wind them up ? :lol:



ok ... well its no secret i dont like caravans for all the reasons i have stated, my family all own caravans , as stated in previous posts all garaged too so no spoiling views etc

i would suggest that my posts are not Contradicting,,, i thought it would be novel to ask people to not gang up on the roamers in that post so we can actually see what there point actually is

i cant see the point of caravans and think its only fair they have a chance to spread the word maybe convert us all... to the fine are of getting the s*it out of the can after it has been locked in a tin/fiberglass box for a week


really i dont think im going to sign up for that club

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 23:07
Get away....you dont like caravans ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

extreme-4x4
03-11-2008, 23:31
Get away....you dont like caravans ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

no really i dont, but i do respect peoples freedom of choice .... i do object to caravans in gardens though although its on the re own property it does ruin the neighborhood


and i really dont see the attraction

Deleted account DD
03-11-2008, 23:35
I'd never have guessed :lol: :?

extreme-4x4
03-11-2008, 23:39
a lot of confused stuff in there!

there are no regs for sheds!
and if its miore than 15 meters form your house you can build a 'shed' of any materials that covers half the area of your garden with no planning permission, no buuilding regs required as long as it is not to be a dewlling!


that is current planning law!

now a caravan is a road vehicle and as such is subject ot all kind of regulations! and when parked on your own property no bigger than a transit van or simmilar and perfectly legal.

I think some people take top gear antics too seriously :lol:



Planning Permission

Rules governing outbuildings apply to sheds, greenhouses and garages as well as other ancillary garden buildings such as swimming pools, ponds, sauna cabins, kennels, enclosures (including tennis courts) and many other kinds of structure for a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the dwellinghouse.

Other rules relate to the installation of a satellite dish, the erection of a new dwelling or the erection or provision of fuel storage tanks.

Under new regulations that came into effect on 1 October 2008 outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

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No outbuilding forward of the principal elevation fronting a highway.
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Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
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Maximum height 2.5 metres within two metres of a boundary.
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No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.
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No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.
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In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.
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On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.
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Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission.

*The term "original house" means the house as it was first built or as it stood on 1 July 1948 (if it was built before that date). Although you may not have built an extension to the house, a previous owner may have done so.

*Designated land includes national parks and the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty, conservation areas and World Heritage Sites.


Common projects: Outbuildings
Building Regulations

If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres.

If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.

(RIP) PLANK
03-11-2008, 23:43
well said extreme 4x4 a detailed version of the advice i gave above, very little permisssion if any and none for most types of outbulidings not attatched to a dwelling or to be used for dwelling that are greater than 15 meters from a dwelling.

Mine was from memory not cut and pasted :wink:

one question, what have you got against caravans? a real gripe or were you scared by a nasty man in a caravan as a chid? :lol:

(RIP) PLANK
03-11-2008, 23:51
Get away....you dont like caravans ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

no really i dont, but i do respect peoples freedom of choice .... i do object to caravans in gardens though although its on the re own property it does ruin the neighborhood


and i really dont see the attraction

ruins the neghbourhood?? you are starting to sound as biased as the antoi 4x4 brigade with your pet hates and NIMBY comments, why dont you start a thread on your interestes and we can cast a critical eye?


My caravans are both on my own property and have no detrimental effect to the area, in fact you cant even see them, I expect you have more rules and conditions to go with this, perhaps the no caravans round here manifesto :lol: :lol:

extreme-4x4
04-11-2008, 00:12
well said extreme 4x4 a detailed version of the advice i gave above, very little permisssion if any and none for most types of outbulidings not attatched to a dwelling or to be used for dwelling that are greater than 15 meters from a dwelling.

Mine was from memory not cut and pasted :wink:

one question, what have you got against caravans? a real gripe or were you scared by a nasty man in a caravan as a chid? :lol:

ok. i dont see the point to them as a holiday product unless your old

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k


i often speak to customers with caravans and ask the same question

they say its nice to get away from it all for a few days... yes but you still have to go back to it ... the fairies haven't come in and done the housework and creosoted ya fence and unless you have magic grass that still grows too... well apart from the bit that's been under your caravan all year

i dont have a hang up about them... i just dont see the point to them

Deleted account DD
04-11-2008, 08:55
Extreme, this is getting silly.

One point though, an article was calculated in a caravan mag a couple of months ago about costs. They factored in expensive sites (more than I pay) and a posh van.

They then factored in cheaper holidays abroad than I took/take and guess what, the costs were almost bang on equal.

Therfore I can presume I'm at least paying the same out whichever holiday type I choose. Plus of course its used all year round.

How can you use the need a big car as an anti point when you run almost the same vehicle as me, a caravanner :?

And trust me, I've returned to the same house flying back from Bulgaria as I have driving with the van from Spain.

Each to their own.

I'm confident youre going for nothing but the wind up :lol:

What hobbies do you have then :lol: :wink:

extreme-4x4
04-11-2008, 09:23
ah, but i have a truck cos i live on a mountain and along a bumpy gravel/mud track,

omg you dont fly too do you... thats even worse

i read somewhere on some plane web site, the average flight is 10,000 miles return with an average passenger load 90% full the most common plane they had ... returns the same mpg per passenger as an average car traveling 8,000 miles,

so itst better for the environment to fly than drive an average car with only the driver,... but the average car has an average passenger load of 2 so the mpg per person would be halved

now if you look at the figures, if you your wife and 2 kids fly 10,000 miles return on one holiday you have already clocked up 32,000 miles of fuel .... in an average car


oh hobbies motor bikes i have a Kawasaki KDX420 air cooled 2 stroke, and cars......

and i dont have a problem with people with caravans... i just cant see the point in them...

Deleted account DD
04-11-2008, 09:26
Bulgaria isnt 10 000 miles and the 4 kids stayed at home :lol:

Now bikes..............

Deleted Member D
04-11-2008, 09:45
I think you said enough in this forum to express your interest in this thread when you said 'quote'................................

and i dont have a problem with people with caravans... i just cant see the point in them...


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Surely if theres a thread that isnt of interest to you its best to stay out of that thread ? :?
If you have a strong opinion towards or against something surely you could/should start your own thread ? :?
Nobody is interested in your dislikes of caravans in this thread. Its negative bud.
Live and let live. :smile:

andrewk
04-11-2008, 10:20
and i dont have a problem with people with caravans... i just cant see the point in them...

Well, caravans work for us. I have a (now adult) handicapped, autistic daughter. She finds it impossible to settle anywhere new and cannot sleep in an unfamiliar bed/bedroom for the best part of a week, making holidays in hotels and self-catering accomodation very difficult. A caravan is a perfect solution, because it's effectively a home from home that she knows very well and can relax in immediately.

Many people, including me, find that a touring caravan can make it possible, easier and cheaper to have a holiday somewhere remote that we otherwise might not visit. We went to Clachtoll in Sutherland in 2006, for example. There are no hotels in Clachtoll. There are no pubs in Clachtoll. If you want to stay in Clachtoll, you either hire a static caravan or take your own tourer.

If you want to see whether it's worth visiting have a quick squint at: http://www.clachtollbeachcampsite.co.uk/ or at: http://www.clachtollholidays.co.uk/index.htm or http://www.clachtoll.org.uk/

We think it's one of the nicest places we've ever been.

Cheers
Andrew

Deleted Member D
04-11-2008, 11:33
Very nice. :P
West of Scotland too. :wink:

knotting_pot
04-11-2008, 12:38
[quote="extreme-4x4"][quote="PLANK"]

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k

[/quote

Try factoring in a used caravan at todays prices of around £500 and the argument holds a little less water methinks...

extreme-4x4
04-11-2008, 13:12
[quote="extreme-4x4"][quote=PLANK]

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k

[/quote

Try factoring in a used caravan at todays prices of around £500 and the argument holds a little less water methinks...


ah but im staying out of this post, i have no interest in this subject whatsoever , if you cant say "you dont see the point in something" in the hopes someone will explain the point... like andrewk did very well in his recent post... other people just seem to get thair feathers ruffled , thinking your moaning about them ... well i have not moaned about the people who use them ... i just dont see the point to them as a product


and to be extra childish im not even going to read this post anymore 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

knotting_pot
04-11-2008, 13:15
[quote=extreme-4x4][quote=PLANK]

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k

[/quote

Try factoring in a used caravan at todays prices of around £500 and the argument holds a little less water methinks...


ah but im staying out of this post, i have no interest in this subject whatsoever , if you cant say "you dont see the point in something" in the hopes someone will explain the point... like andrewk did very well in his recent post... other people just seem to get thair feathers ruffled , thinking your moaning about them ... well i have not moaned about the people who use them ... i just dont see the point to them as a product


and to be extra childish im not even going to read this post anymore 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Bet you do :lol:

Deleted account DD
04-11-2008, 19:11
Very nice. :P
West of Scotland too. :wink:

Agreed but it ALWAYS rains when we're up there :?

and Andrew, yes lovely area. We've been on more holidays this year than ever before to places we've wanted to visit.

And still in pocket, in fact the Lakes this weekend & Monday :smile:

Thomas-the-Terrano2
04-11-2008, 22:14
Right Guys,

just read 2 pages of to and fro, not relating directly to title...

thanks for those who tried to keep it positive,

so lets keep it focused, or we'll lock it.

cheers

the mod team