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Barrbeast
26-02-2014, 00:10
Hi folks, need to book the Trol in for her MOT before middle of next month. Would normally use an independent place near my flat but it isn't really an option this time as I'm staying at the farm just now (12 miles away from my flat) so I can help out a bit more than usual as my Grandad's just had his hip replaced.

Don't think there's anything needing done to her (feverishly touching wood!) so I'm just looking for a place to get the MOT done and it looks like someplace near my work is probably the best option (I don't work in the same place as my flat unfortunately).

There's a Kwik Fit very (very) near my work so was thinking about putting it in there. If anything needed done, I'd either do it myself or get it done elsewhere.

What's the opinion on Kwik Fit for MOT's? :nenau

Sweety
26-02-2014, 00:18
Kwik fit around here are often the cheapest but have a much higher fail rate than other garages as they make their money on the repairs:augie If you take your motor away from the garage where the MOT was carried out to do the repairs yourself etc they can legally charge you for another MOT even tho it's only a retest:doh (loads do it around here) so i'd check this out where ever you take it:thumbs

Ogri
26-02-2014, 00:25
A local independent garage that I use has had many arguments with the local kwickfit after having distressed customers go to see him with a big quote from kwickfit for unnecessary work after an unjust MOT fail.

Only anecdotal but I would only go there as a last resort.

Barrbeast
26-02-2014, 00:25
If you take your motor away from the garage where the MOT was carried out to do the repairs yourself etc they can legally charge you for another MOT even tho it's only a retest:doh

That's the thing, any repairs and I'd sort out a way to take it to a garage I know and trust (ie. the one near my flat), it's just getting somewhere convenient for the actual test. :(

Other option for the test is the Nissan Dealer in the same town as my work (they've got a pretty good reputation).

Ogri
26-02-2014, 00:39
I've just seen where you live. This makes interesting reading (hint: look towards the bottom of the graph for Dundee) :eek:

http://good-garage-guide.honestjohn.co.uk/mot-data-the-mot-files/mot-data-by-postcode/mot-data-by-postcode-overview/

Good luck!

AlexD333
26-02-2014, 07:22
Not sure on kwik fit garage but a trick that always helps ten fold, make sure the truck is spanking clean outside and inside and underneath.

People always judge on first impressions (as long as she's not wrecked underneath obv) :lol

I'm sure you are entitled to a free retest within 10 days too. I would quiz them on the phone with that question rather than ask when your down otherwise it will look like your expecting it to fail..

Good luck.

stevo
26-02-2014, 08:10
MOT testers are supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to any items, and pass and advise if poss.

An example being a Yaris in our place today, wiper linkage mount broken. The wipers clear the screen, the blades aren't loose, (the linkage is, very).

Pass and advise, because the mot manual (which is online) doesn't explicitly say it should fail.

If they fail it and you think its unjustified, ask them what RFRs they have used (Reasons for Refusal). If you're still not happy, then go to VOSA - no one likes VOSA turning up...... :)

briggie
26-02-2014, 08:22
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm

Fez_uk
26-02-2014, 10:02
Independant MOT stations will also usually give you more time to get the retest without recharging you. Well they do with me.

clivvy
26-02-2014, 10:14
I would avoid Kwik Fit, im 98% sure they will fail a Troll - all they will see is a huge four wheeled pound sign.

THEN AGAIN, is it likely they will mess with you mate??:lol:augie

jims-terrano
26-02-2014, 11:03
It's more likely they wont know what to do with a Patrol.

firebobby
26-02-2014, 11:37
I wouldn't use Kwik fit, load of Monkeys are far as I'm concerned.
Fit a tyre yes, anything else, NO

Barrbeast
26-02-2014, 15:00
I've just seen where you live. This makes interesting reading (hint: look towards the bottom of the graph for Dundee) :eek:

http://good-garage-guide.honestjohn.co.uk/mot-data-the-mot-files/mot-data-by-postcode/mot-data-by-postcode-overview/

Good luck!

Thanks bud :rolleyes: fills me with confidence... :p

Funnily enough it says brakes are the highest fail reason for the "DD" postcode area but in the 10/11 years I've been driving I've never failed an MOT on brakes (shouldn't have said that, sods law there's something up with them when I go in :doh)

I would avoid Kwik Fit, im 98% sure they will fail a Troll - all they will see is a huge four wheeled pound sign.

THEN AGAIN, is it likely they will mess with you mate??:lol:augie

Haha cheers Clive though hopefully I won't have to put that to the test! :lol

Think the consensus is a "No" for Kwik Fit MOT's... have found an independent just as near to my work that seems to be well regarded (it's in the Good Garage Scheme for what it's worth) so I've booked it into there. Been trying to find the time to do the fuel filter so may ask them to do that while they're at it (I've got the filter).

micktheshed
26-02-2014, 16:44
I've just seen where you live. This makes interesting reading (hint: look towards the bottom of the graph for Dundee) :eek:

http://good-garage-guide.honestjohn.co.uk/mot-data-the-mot-files/mot-data-by-postcode/mot-data-by-postcode-overview/

Good luck!

Thanks for that Ogri, it makes really interesting reading (must get a life LOL). Useful to have some idea of the most common fails.

John B
26-02-2014, 16:47
My arse will heal over before I ever got to quick quid I mean quickfit probably the most expensive garage around.

Barrbeast
26-02-2014, 19:35
Cheap MOTs though... but it looks like there's a reason for that!

Kishada
26-02-2014, 19:57
Wow, plenty of misinformation flying around in this thread! :rolleyes:

Reason for Rejection
10 working days for a re-test
Half of the original test fee may be charged for a re-test

I personally hate testing 4 wheel drives as a 1hr test slot is pushing it due to the increased complexity of the vehicle and therefore more items that must be checked.

If you really want an honest test, just take some yellow MOT chalk and write 'TEST CAR' on the floor pan underneath! :lol:

AlexD333
26-02-2014, 22:22
Wow, plenty of misinformation flying around in this thread! :rolleyes:

Reason for Rejection
10 working days for a re-test
Half of the original test fee may be charged for a re-test

I personally hate testing 4 wheel drives as a 1hr test slot is pushing it due to the increased complexity of the vehicle and therefore more items that must be checked.

If you really want an honest test, just take some yellow MOT chalk and write 'TEST CAR' on the floor pan underneath! :lol:

Now i like this :naughty

quixote
01-03-2014, 22:58
Which side of Dundee is your Grandfather's farm Barrbeast? Reason I ask is that Muirhead garage is a good bet. Ian's a thoroughly-decent bloke, does good work & doesn't rip his prices. If your at that end he'd be a good bet :thumb2

bry
01-03-2014, 23:57
Just go to the MOT station that gives discount on bribes.(Calm down its only a joke)Or you think,I have heard of a place that lets you do your own M.O.T'S minus emission tests.
Needless to say VOSA have been informed of my suspicions..

supergnome
02-03-2014, 09:19
Some councils have an MOT facility. All they do is test, motorbikes to large vans. Honest, fair and often very helpful. QF. not a cat in hells....

jims-terrano
02-03-2014, 09:43
Some councils have an MOT facility. All they do is test, motorbikes to large vans. Honest, fair and often very helpful. QF. not a cat in hells....

Until the cuts hit and continue to hit, this is the sort of service that goes and has gone.

Barrbeast
02-03-2014, 09:51
Which side of Dundee is your Grandfather's farm Barrbeast? Reason I ask is that Muirhead garage is a good bet. Ian's a thoroughly-decent bloke, does good work & doesn't rip his prices. If your at that end he'd be a good bet :thumb2

Thanks bud but the farm's a small place between Glamis and Kirriemuir so a good 12 miles North of Dundee, and as I said above I've already booked her into a place near my work :thumbs

Difficulty is I work in Arbroath and so have to commute. If I was back in my flat in Dundee I would just drop the truck to the garage round the corner (which I've used before) and get the bus into work but being out at the farm that isn't an option so I had to find somewhere near my work instead so I can drive in, drop the truck off and walk to work then pick her up later on with a new ticket (touch wood) and drive home.

panelbeater
02-03-2014, 10:47
we have a council mot center but do not do private,only taxi and there own stuff.
a mate worked at kf for some time and was told off for not earning enough in repairs.seems kf like to over fail over charge and he left.
i have never used them.
have a very good mot about 5mls away.
my car just passed the mot but i knew my tracking was out so i pulled in at a tyre center in oxford rd clacton on sea essex,flashy place,they took it in and ramped it for some reason and i waited in waiting area.
now my car at the time was a zx and could not get tracked using the lazer set up due to not enough room to mount thinge on the tyres under wheel arch or something,so needed to be done the old fashioned way on the floor with the wheel alignment gauges.
after about 20mins he asked if i would go in and look at the steering on my car.
first let me say i am the other side of 60,been in the motor trade and engineering all my life,have had my own repair shop untill illness set in and i then stopped,so i know my way around cars hgv etc.
he pointed up to the power steering box and said feel this,i did,a very slight in out movement,nothing to worry about me thinks.
says that is what is causing your tyre to wear.
says it is a mot fail if they were doing it.
ask if i want it fixed,how much,armmmm not sure need to get a price on the power box etc.
anyway i said no thanks and this was free as agreed wasnt it,yes,lowered the car and got it off the ramp and then i showed him the new mot,that week,talk about change of face.
they saw an old car and older man and me thinks we can earn some dosh from him.
in life the car passed every mot first time.it helps being handy at fixing things.
so kf are not the only ones at it.
but surely vosa must inspect more often under cover to stop this practise going on.

quixote
02-03-2014, 18:08
farm's a small place between Glamis and Kirriemuir so a good 12 miles North of Dundee, and as I said above I've already booked her into a place near my work

No worries :thumb2

Your grandfather's not looking for a rabbiter, by any chance? :augie

Barrbeast
04-03-2014, 14:08
No worries :thumb2

Your grandfather's not looking for a rabbiter, by any chance? :augie

We're actually pretty low on the bunnies at the moment bud... but I'll bear you in mind if (more likely when) they come back! :thumb2

Barrbeast
04-03-2014, 14:16
Well just heard from the garage, failed on one item - one of the rear ARB drop links has excessive play in it... figures as I've been toying with removing the rear ARB altogether :doh

Just asked them to do the needful as I'm gonna have enough to do this weekend without spending time under the truck :(

Moving forward though I would like to just bin the rear ARB altogether as the disconnect button still works but it is getting tempermental (mainly trying to get it engaged again) and when I finally get round to lifting the suspension I'll only have to extend the front links.

I know a few of you guys have removed your rear ARBs, take it there's no issue MOT wise?

Banshee
04-03-2014, 14:29
Well just heard from the garage, failed on one item - one of the rear ARB drop links has excessive play in it... figures as I've been toying with removing the rear ARB altogether :doh

Just asked them to do the needful as I'm gonna have enough to do this weekend without spending time under the truck :(

Moving forward though I would like to just bin the rear ARB altogether as the disconnect button still works but it is getting tempermental (mainly trying to get it engaged again) and when I finally get round to lifting the suspension I'll only have to extend the front links.

I know a few of you guys have removed your rear ARBs, take it there's no issue MOT wise?

That's a good result buddy :thumb2

Could be worse, get some Waxoyl on her as a treat when you get chance

Barrbeast
04-03-2014, 18:25
Cheers bud, yeh could be have been a lot worse!

Mainly just annoyed at having to pay someone to do something I would have normally done myself :doh (no joking about penny pinching Scots now :augie)

quixote
04-03-2014, 21:07
I know what you mean! I was really fed up changing my discs & pads at the weekend, but the thought of paying someone to do what I could do myself jsut really went against the grain :nenau

pretty low on the bunnies at the moment

Seems to be the case this year........saving me a fortune in .22rf though :lol:lol