roof rail question

[solarman216]

Have now got a set of roof rails, but need to get these self expanding nut thingies to go in the roof, any one know what they are called? Rick

[cncfabs]

Have now got a set of roof rails, but need to get these self expanding nut thingies to go in the roof, any one know what they are called? Rick

Avdels or rivnuts

[Lazy-Ferret]

Yep Rivnuts... I have the tool for putting them in, if you don't want to go to the hassle of buying one, I could bring it down when we do the head!!!!:lol

[solarman216]

Yep Rivnuts... I have the tool for putting them in, if you don't want to go to the hassle of buying one, I could bring it down when we do the head!!!!:lol

Thank's Clive, when you planing on coming down? Rick

[rustic]

Some are called nutserts. or even clinch nuts.

I fitted some M8 ones without a tool...

This is how.. well for M8 anyhow...
take a long M8 bolt, run a M8 nut up the thread, then a washer, then insert the bolt into the nutsert, or rivnut, until all the thread of the nutsert is engaged, insert the nutsert into the hole, then hold the bolt head so that the thread doesn't rotate in the rivnut, and tighten the M8 nut which will then compress the nutsert. When compressed enough, slacken the nut, then withdraw the bolt. In fact, if you can get to the inside, after insertion, and he thread is long enough, you could put a lock nut on the underside to stop it turning whilst you tighten the nut.

Simples...

Do not allow the bolt to turn in the nutsert thread whilst compressing with the nut. OR the thread could strip in the nutsert.

[Lazy-Ferret]

Thank's Clive, when you planing on coming down? Rick

I still need to order the head gasket set, but was waiting on your news on your cylinder head... I didn't want to harass you.

[solarman216]

Thank's Rustic, never planed on getting a tool, would have done just as you say, Rick

[solarman216]

I still need to order the head gasket set, but was waiting on your news on your cylinder head... I didn't want to harass you.

OK better get on it tomorrow, and pull the injectors to have a look see, but not sure about No 1 as with the wire a "special tool" is needed, but not looked at it in detail as yet, but do not forget it is a Slindon Sunday comming, Rick

[davenclaire]

OK better get on it tomorrow, and pull the injectors to have a look see, but not sure about No 1 as with the wire a "special tool" is needed, but not looked at it in detail as yet, but do not forget it is a Slindon Sunday comming, Rick

rick iv got the special tool to remove no1 injector happy to drop it down to you mate

[exosteve]

Some are called nutserts. or even clinch nuts.

I fitted some M8 ones without a tool...

This is how.. well for M8 anyhow...
take a long M8 bolt, run a M8 nut up the thread, then a washer, then insert the bolt into the nutsert, or rivnut, until all the thread of the nutsert is engaged, insert the nutsert into the hole, then hold the bolt head so that the thread doesn't rotate in the rivnut, and tighten the M8 nut which will then compress the nutsert. When compressed enough, slacken the nut, then withdraw the bolt. In fact, if you can get to the inside, after insertion, and he thread is long enough, you could put a lock nut on the underside to stop it turning whilst you tighten the nut.

Simples...


Do not allow the bolt to turn in the nutsert thread whilst compressing with the nut. OR the thread could strip in the nutsert.

what he said. no need for special tools. you just need three hands.

if you need a picture of a home made tool give us a shout.

[solarman216]

rick iv got the special tool to remove no1 injector happy to drop it down to you mate

That is a nice offer, let me remove the other three and have a look first, will get back to you if needed, regards Rick

[solarman216]

what he said. no need for special tools. you just need three hands.

if you need a picture of a home made tool give us a shout.

Thank's Steve but I can make most tools required, Rick

[kitchenman]

The rivnut tool is very much like the tool you use for fixing to plasterboard, Fastbrolly I think they are called, like this
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rivnut+tool+homemade&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=b5UCU5aZFMKS7AbtpYDwBQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1680&bih=963

[solarman216]

The rivnut tool is very much like the tool you use for fixing to plasterboard, Fastbrolly I think they are called, like this
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rivnut+tool+homemade&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=b5UCU5aZFMKS7AbtpYDwBQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1680&bih=963

yep I have one of them some place, but I only have 12 nuts to fit so no real need of a fast fix tool, thanks any way, Rick

[Sweety]

Dumb Q but are the rails hard to fit ie getting everything lined up:augie have thought about adding some onto mine but the roof is stepped as I don't have a sunroof

[kitchenman]

I found the rails only fit in the right place.
I put masking tape on roof, then placed the rails where they were happy
Draw round the feet with pen
Then took the feet off and marked hole position on masking tape.
Make sure you drill at the right angle, not 90 degrees to the metal
I have pictures somewhere
The hardest bit was figuring out how to get to the head of the bolt holding the feet each end:doh

[solarman216]

fortunately the rails have been removed from a scrapper in my yard so I have all the info I need re hole positions, regards Rick

[kitchenman]

Dumb Q but are the rails hard to fit ie getting everything lined up:augie have thought about adding some onto mine but the roof is stepped as I don't have a sunroof

Hi Rick, this is the question I was offering an update on

[solarman216]

Hi Rick, this is the question I was offering an update on

Ah cheers, I missed that one, Rick