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trick202
10-02-2014, 14:29
Hi all
I have just replaced my Landrover Discovery 2 V8 with a Nissan Terrano LWB Sport 3.0Di
It's a second car/workhorse for us. We also have a 2013 Vogue Autobiography. I'm in Halifax, West Yorks.
So far, so good. I like the car, it seems to have personality and feels solid in a way the Landrover never did. I initially aimed to buy a Shogun, but I couldn't believe the price of the Terrano and the Patrol engine swayed me (especially after test driving Shoguns in the same price range). I do have a couple of queries though:
1: It's a little smokey on initial startup - but seems to run fine with no smoke. Valve stem seals? It also smells of paraffin/diesel when left running.
2: I seem to get quite a lot of engine noise through into the cabin (mostly coming from the footwell/trans tunnel) - Is this pretty normal? It's not an unhealthy noise - just a little more intrusive than I'd have expected.
3: Is there a source for aftermarket parts? Toys etc?
4: Front brakes are quite grabby and they tend to lock the front quite easily. Normal?
5: It'll be due some tyres soon, and I was thinking of something a little more rugged than the road tyres it has on. General Grabbers, or maybe some Insa Turbo Dakars. Anyone got any experience with these?
6: Is the handbrake a traditional handbrake or a transmission lock? Feels like the former to me.
7: Front tyres are wearing on the outside quicker than the rest. Does the car just have more positive camber naturally? It's on both fronts. Our old RR Sport used to do this too (but they were £250 a corner).
Sorry for all the questions!
rayf3262
10-02-2014, 14:53
Hi all
I have just replaced my Landrover Discovery 2 V8 with a Nissan Terrano LWB Sport 3.0Di
It's a second car/workhorse for us. We also have a 2013 Vogue Autobiography. I'm in Halifax, West Yorks.
So far, so good. I like the car, it seems to have personality and feels solid in a way the Landrover never did. I initially aimed to buy a Shogun, but I couldn't believe the price of the Terrano and the Patrol engine swayed me (especially after test driving Shoguns in the same price range). I do have a couple of queries though:
1: It's a little smokey on initial startup - but seems to run fine with no smoke. Valve stem seals? It also smells of paraffin/diesel when left running.
Check your glow plugs, after starting these should be on until the engine reaches >45 dg. C. Chances are you may have no working GP's! This will not be apparent on a direct injection engine until ambient temps are very cold.
2: I seem to get quite a lot of engine noise through into the cabin (mostly coming from the footwell/trans tunnel) - Is this pretty normal? It's not an unhealthy noise - just a little more intrusive than I'd have expected.
If heard while driving, check the front prop shaft UJ's, these are "sealed for life" and do fail.
3: Is there a source for aftermarket parts? Toys etc?
4: Front brakes are quite grabby and they tend to lock the front quite easily. Normal?
Calipers are probably due a good clean up, esp. the slide pins.
5: It'll be due some tyres soon, and I was thinking of something a little more rugged than the road tyres it has on. General Grabbers, or maybe some Insa Turbo Dakars. Anyone got any experience with these?
6: Is the handbrake a traditional handbrake or a transmission lock? Feels like the former to me.
Operates drum brakes on rear wheels.
7: Front tyres are wearing on the outside quicker than the rest. Does the car just have more positive camber naturally? It's on both fronts. Our old RR Sport used to do this too (but they were £250 a corner).
Sorry for all the questions!
Thats all I have to offer right now.
Cheers
welcome to the club, don't know much about 3.0l but there's plenty on here that do. I'm sure you'l have your answers soon!
trick202
10-02-2014, 16:02
Thanks Rayf
Could well be the glow plugs. It does turn over just a little more than I'd expect before firing - although I have nothing to compare it to, obviously.
I wouldn't say it was drive-train noise. It's almost like someones left a cover off, or some of the sound deadening has been removed. I'll get used to it I'm sure.
Looks like I'll have the callipers off for a nosey when it gets a bit warmer.
Thanks again!
AlexD333
10-02-2014, 16:50
Howdy mate and welcome to the club. As you will find here, loads of friendly people and lots of good advise. I've got a 2.7 and know little about that anyway :lol
Nice to meet you though. :thumb2
Welcome.
Just had to google Vogue Autobiography, I was like WTF is that. What a weird name for a vehicle.
Welcome:thumb2 I can say the Terrano will be far cheaper for you to run as they don't need new parts every week:lol I'm onto my second Terrano now but in between them I also had a disco 2 V8 until the engine block went porous:doh TBH I feel the Terrano is a far better motor than the disco plus in 4 years of having Terrano's I've spent less on them inc tyres etc than I did in the first year of owning the disco.
As for the brakes the rear may need re-adjusting as the auto adjuster hardly ever work but it's dead easy to do & the hand brake works on the rear brakes & not the transmission like the disco. Oh don't use 4WD on the road as you'll get transmission wind up as there is no center diff on these trucks like the disco has
Barrbeast
10-02-2014, 18:26
Welcome.
Just had to google Vogue Autobiography, I was like WTF is that. What a weird name for a vehicle.
You and me both Fez! :lol
Welcome bud :thumb2 Can't help with the Terrano only bits but I do have the same engine in my Trol. I would say that the Trol with the 3.0 does sound quite agricultural but that's normal (I quite like it :D) imagine the Terrano is the same.
Intersting that the 3.0 Terrano has rear drums as all Y61 Trols except for the 4.8s have transmission handbrakes.
On the tyres, I've had General Grabber ATs on since getting the Trol in March 2013, done just over 20k and still a good load of tread, managed the business fine offroad - I even managed up a slope at an offroad site that the Defenders hadn't been able to get up due to the weather :sly
terrano bob
10-02-2014, 18:29
hi mate :thumbs
firebobby
10-02-2014, 19:16
Hi and welcome,
I have owned Terrano's for many years now and can't say I notice the cabin noise, you may notice it more on a Terrano than say, your vogue.
The front brakes on mine don't snatch, as has been said, check the calipers.
AlexD333
10-02-2014, 22:34
Hi and welcome,
I have owned Terrano's for many years now and can't say I notice the cabin noise, you may notice it more on a Terrano than say, your vogue.
The front brakes on mine don't snatch, as has been said, check the calipers.
Oh hands down every time. My work colleague has a vogue and it's like a sofa on wheels with a hole in the petrol tank :lol
The terrano is like an agricultural tractor :lol
Would I swap?
Hell no :sly
firebobby
10-02-2014, 23:17
Oh hands down every time. My work colleague has a vogue and it's like a sofa on wheels with a hole in the petrol tank :lol
The terrano is like an agricultural tractor :lol
Would I swap?
Hell no :sly
You would if it had side steps :lol
trick202
11-02-2014, 22:40
Oh hands down every time. My work colleague has a vogue and it's like a sofa on wheels with a hole in the petrol tank :lol
The terrano is like an agricultural tractor :lol
Would I swap?
Hell no :sly
You'd be surprised. Ours is the 4.4 tdv8. It gets 35mpg on a run. It's quiet, comfy, and surprisingly swift when required. That said, I could buy more than 30 of my terrano for one of our RR.
trick202
11-02-2014, 22:46
Well, I've done a few days with the plucky little tractor and I like it more and more.
I have a oil light very now and then but I suspect dodgy switch supposedly fixed by dealer. I will check for oil tomorrow.
Had a little play I'm the snow tonight, but new insa Dakars have not arrived yet. Panicked a bit when I couldn't get the green 4wd light off, but some forward/reverse sorted that.
Cheers for all the well wishes.
AlexD333
11-02-2014, 22:48
Oh no more side step jokes :doh I told you all I've changed now :rolleyes:
I promise i scrapped em.
Yeah my colleague had the 4.4 its a rocket, and has some lovely gadgets.
Too pretty to enjoy offroad and too pretty to be intimidating on road (would be too scared to scratch it) :thumbs
Awesome tools though!
firebobby
12-02-2014, 20:27
Well, I've done a few days with the plucky little tractor and I like it more and more.
I have a oil light very now and then but I suspect dodgy switch supposedly fixed by dealer. I will check for oil tomorrow.
Had a little play I'm the snow tonight, but new insa Dakars have not arrived yet. Panicked a bit when I couldn't get the green 4wd light off, but some forward/reverse sorted that.
Cheers for all the well wishes.
Oil light problems on these usually result in the oil switch that sits down the drivers side of the engine, easy to do through the o/s front wheel area, there is a down load on here, showing how to do it.
Are there 2 switches? My oil light came on and I had the switch changed but it's still on :confused:
And it's not because the oils low before anyone makes the joke!
rakerman
12-02-2014, 21:22
Are there 2 switches? My oil light came on and I had the switch changed but it's still on :confused:
Hi Walshie, yes there's 2 switches a high and a low pressure. Have a look in the downloads section for some pics where to find the high pressure switch and the part number for the switch with an extension if yours hasn't had the updated part already. When I needed one I had to give them the part no. for it as it wasn't linked to the old one on the dealers parts system.:thumbs
trick202
13-02-2014, 00:13
When I bought the car they said they were fitting a new switch. He showed me the right hand side of the block as you look in the bonnet. Very easy to get to.
Oil level fine. Light comes on at startup sometimes and stays on. Other times, stays off for the whole journey.
Loving this little tractor more and more. Would love a taller centre arm rest though.
New tyres tomorrow!
Also, is door hinge/drop common?
Oh, and when are belts done? Or is this chain/gears?
Barrbeast
13-02-2014, 00:38
Right, oil switch first... sounds like the muppets changed the low oil pressure switch instead of the high pressure switch (which is what they should have changed and is on the other side of the engine :doh)
Low pressure switch is VERY easy to get to (especially if you remove the oil filter), high pressure switch failure on the zd30 is just one of those things but apparently not too bad to replace on the Terrano, but on the Trol it's a bugger and pretty much an engine out job :(...
... which is why I fitted an oil pressure gauge instead (tee piece with sender into the low pressure point) and just give the oil pressure light the finger when it comes on :sly When I get a minute I will be pulling the dash bulb!
As for the engine timing, the 3.0 is a hybrid chain/gears - camshafts run off chain driven from the front of the injector pump but everything else is gear driven. Aussie consensus is chain shouldn't need replaced :thumbs
rayf3262
13-02-2014, 00:51
When I get a minute I will be pulling the dash bulb!
Rather than ditch the dash light, consider pulling the connection from the HP switch and ground it, then the LP switch/light combination should operate normally...
Barrbeast
13-02-2014, 12:37
Rather than ditch the dash light, consider pulling the connection from the HP switch and ground it, then the LP switch/light combination should operate normally...
That's an idea! :thumb2 Cheers Ray.
Will just depend on how easy I can get at the HP switch to identify the cable and remove the connector as it's pretty crowded down there and I want to make sure I'm messing with the right thing! I can see me getting the video endoscope out...:rolleyes:
firebobby
13-02-2014, 19:27
Are there 2 switches? My oil light came on and I had the switch changed but it's still on :confused:
Which one did you change??
I changed the high pressure switch, drivers side and it's been fine since.....wood! wood! I need to touch some wood :augie:augie
trick202
15-02-2014, 23:05
Ok.
I ordered a new, taller armrest from a company in Italy. I'll post pics when it gets here and when I figure out how.
I also got my insa Dakars fitted to the car. They look great (to me) And aren't as noisy as I'd expected.
davenclaire
16-02-2014, 00:21
Well, I've done a few days with the plucky little tractor and I like it more and more.
I have a oil light very now and then but I suspect dodgy switch supposedly fixed by dealer. I will check for oil tomorrow.
Had a little play I'm the snow tonight, but new insa Dakars have not arrived yet. Panicked a bit when I couldn't get the green 4wd light off, but some forward/reverse sorted that.
Cheers for all the well wishes.
welcome mate. instructions on opperating the 4x4 gears are on the drivers sun visor you usually have to reverse a few meters to dissengage it and the light to go out
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