front tow bar

[zippy656]

Work shop 32

Hi, i've asked a local man to price up to have one made.

if any one else would like one, Pm me, we might be able to get the cost down a little


Zippy

[Gromit]

Hi Zippy, I was looking for one for my Pathie and found this site who do them for T2's might be worth a look http://www.watling-towbars.co.uk
Regads Geoff

[zippy656]

hi, yeps, seen that one some time ago when i had an 806..

forgot to ask abut one for a T2 but i will do so now :smile:

just looked Gromit, they are £158.63 plus P&P from them, so my mans got to be a lot less i think.

Zippy

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

watling want £158 for a front bar, not sure if that includes the ball or not.

so bit to go at in terms of undercutting, I note that watling rightly so
quote the bar's nose and draw weight as per the rear bar. they also
do a a natty electric winch kit to suit either location.

[zippy656]

i cant remember who but, ive see a front winch and towball bar that uses both fixings at teh front. not sure if id like to winch just useing the one point



Zippy

P.S.
i think ill ask him about 2 of the end fittingx, and a bar to link them both together to give a stronger recovery point.

Anyone else got any other idears??

[zippy656]

hi saw the chap today, hopefully have a price soon.


will ask about having two and a linking bar ffor a winch maybe?


Zippy

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

hi saw the chap today, hopefully have a price soon.


will ask about having two and a linking bar ffor a winch maybe?


Zippy

sounds good idea, though guess mounting receiver to off side
will result in loss of factory pig tail hook thing, that said a bar
between them will brace any pulling esp. if winch.

what about if receivers could accomodate ahilift jack too,
perhaps by extension tubes?

[wildbri]

I have a custom made front tow bar (see download 32 front tow bar) for which I am open to offers. I made two for the T2 one is on my vehicle, it is complete and unused with all bolts and pins and ready to fit. would take 15 mins to fit . This bar is quick release as per photos but a standard 2 bolt ball would be required.......regards bri :smile:

[zippy656]

Hi Wilbri, thats the download hes using for info, hope you dont mind.

what do you want for yours, just in case he wants to much?


Zippy

[wildbri]

good morning zippy..... I dont mind my towbar being copied thats why I did the down load to help other T2 Mav owners who tow caravans and trailers as I do. I am looking for £70 + this is complete with all bolts washers and pins ready to fit. I am in Kendal cumbria if anyone is interested. We were near you in sept, when we took our van to wilts, bristol .somerset, hants, dorset and I o W the weather was perfect except for a damp walk around Bristol docks...

regards...bri :smile:

[zippy656]

hi wildbri. oh well maybe drop in next time for a coffee and chat...

we're easy to fine... T2 and caravan out side...



Zippy

[Deleted account DD]

I have a custom made front tow bar (see download 32 front tow bar) for which I am open to offers. I made two for the T2 one is on my vehicle, it is complete and unused with all bolts and pins and ready to fit. would take 15 mins to fit . This bar is quick release as per photos but a standard 2 bolt ball would be required.......regards bri :smile:


.........and having relieved Brian of his tow-bar and used it to push a large caravan around a storage yard today, I can state without reservation that it's become an instant don't want to be without bit of kit. I've done quite a bit of push pulling of trailers in the past and this is back to happy easier manoeuvring days :wink:

It took a whole 15 minutes to fit the mounting and that included cleaning the underside area. Fitting and removing the tow-bar assembly takes a similar number of seconds .


Thanks Brian -welldone- -welldone- -welldone-

[wildbri]

Thanks Dave, Im pleased you found it as easy to fit and use as I described it

.....bri 8)

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Hi Wilbri, thats the download hes using for info, hope you dont mind.

what do you want for yours, just in case he wants to much?


Zippy

Hey Zippy, did you get anywhere the production of the bars?

[zippy656]

Hey Zippy, did you get anywhere the production of the bars?

nope, but we have a member who a towbar fitter...

Im sure hell post here SOON!..

as ive just sent him the link here...


Hi mate, I know i could have told you it was me!!

but wheres the fun in that..

Zippy

[scott301004]

HI all I have been speaking to zippy regarding the front towbars and have done my research on the fabrication of them. My main form of business is fitting towbars on a mobile basis but have experience in engineering as I uesd to work within a welding firm producing catalyitc converters.

Should any body be interested I will be fabricating the first three on saturday one of which is intended for zippy, the bar will be made from good quality steel and to fit my mav so will fit any with the same chassis. The angle of the bar will be set to the ride height of my car which is standard ride height so unless others have been altered will be the same for others. they will come complete with pins and washers with the crush bars welded in so no messing llining them up .

Should any body be interested I can produce and get them delivered within UK mainland for £52. I will have pictures of the first batch on saturdaty latest sunday so any interested and wish to see pics via e-mail please contact me with e-mail adresses and I will forward them on.

Scott

[Paul]

You have pm..:D

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

hi Scott,

please put me down for one as I'd be very happy if made to Wildbri's design as helped in the creation of
the download.

bw

Richard.

[Bat21]

I just bolted a ball straight to the ARB, and then made a strengthening plate to go behind.

http://ukgser.smugmug.com/photos/275054728_iJHfD-L.jpg


On our Morocco trips I just carry a 7 foot length of box section with a hitch fitted to each end just in case we need towing back to Spain :thumb2

http://ukgser.smugmug.com/photos/275055785_2cqx6-L.jpg

[scott301004]

Thats a good plan but I know for a fact the front bumper on my mav would not hold up like yours

[scott301004]

send me your e-mail rbrt. they will be dead as wildbris.

[scott301004]

Hi those who e-mailed we might be a bit behind schedule as still waiting for the boilts to be delivered but they are well worth waiting for if its the right kit.

scott

[scott301004]

after all that I have three left after fitting out the three that are owned within my family

[Paul]

Replied to your email..:thumb2

Paul.

[lacroupade]

I'm assuming these would get through an MoT and not be viewed as ancilliary leg-breakers? :lol:lol

[zippy656]

I'm assuming these would get through an MoT and not be viewed as ancilliary leg-breakers? :lol:lol

they are out the way.



scot, put the pics on here when you get time, im sure youll sell a few more

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

they are out the way.



scot, put the pics on here when you get time, im sure youll sell a few more


based on fact that are quick release do not need need to be on truck unless intending
to shunt a trailer, certainly will be off at test time other than receiver that is well
behind bumper line just visible under apron.


Also replied Scott, kit looking good, will look better still between my truck and my 'van.

[scott301004]

getting there aint they

[zippy656]

yep dont forget you can get a cover for it... 2" x 2" box end cap. right scot? so will not rill up with dirt and look better at MOT time too

[Deleted account DD]

I've got a "Wildbri original" fitted and it is the mutts bits.

I'm interested in the 2x2 end caps though, where can we get them form?

[Deleted account DD]

ps if anyone wants any pics, happy to oblige.

[zippy656]

I've got a "Wildbri original" fitted and it is the mutts bits.

I'm interested in the 2x2 end caps though, where can we get them form?

ask Scot, i asked if he could do a cap. to stop it filling with dirt when off road.

PM him..

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

if its 2x2 then there are loads of slots available on the yank market, ebay etc.

cap would be handy cos will be first thing to hit/ground, forward plough eh?
still think of all that neck ache and ear ache from watchers trying to tell you
where 'van is!

[Deleted account DD]

Thanks, not something I'm remotely familiar with, what would I be best searching under? "end cap" or do they have a fancy name like "steel tubing constructors end piece fitting"

[zippy656]

i think PM sot, hell tell you where from Im sure, he might even have some. Ive seen them in my local trailer centre.

[Deleted account DD]

Thanks folks, I have actually been to diy stores looking but the only ones I could find was a 10 pack of shelving ends at some unbelievable price.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Thanks, not something I'm remotely familiar with, what would I be best searching under? "end cap" or do they have a fancy name like "steel tubing constructors end piece fitting"

'2" receiver HITCH' on flea bay, follow on down to international sellers most likely, tell us
more zippy you've seen em locally., or is it just local endcaps for local people....?

[Deleted account DD]

'2" receiver'

Cheers.....the word receiver would never have entered into it!!!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Cheers.....the word receiver would never have entered into it!!!


glad you received it then...ah england and america 2 countries divided by a language!

[scott301004]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/black-plastic-end-caps-to-suit-50mm-square-tube-4-off_W0QQitemZ400022807395QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI _Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplie s_ET?hash=item400022807395&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

I am getting worried about you lot, these caps will push in easy but might be a little tough to get back out

[scott301004]

in fact just ordered some for the bars so no need to panic over a plastic cap worth about £1.30

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

in fact just ordered some for the bars so no need to panic over a plastic cap worth about £1.30

Scott, you are a gent, can I ask if retaining pin will be just that with a clip or a bolt
and nut which I guess can be finger tight to secure slot in bar.

[scott301004]

Now then the situaton is if you use a bar and clip then you will have to drill a bigger hole in order to use a bar big enough to take a clip and will in effect reduce the steel left and weaken it. So I thought would be best to use an M10 bolt with a wing nut for ease

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Now then the situaton is if you use a bar and clip then you will have to drill a bigger hole in order to use a bar big enough to take a clip and will in effect reduce the steel left and weaken it. So I thought would be best to use an M10 bolt with a wing nut for ease

sounds reasonable no point weaking steel for bigger bar then. as still needs to be set up
for shunting and if left on will be clearer and sturdier for it.

[zippy656]

tiz all looking good.

stif nuts might be a better bet, last thing you want is the bolt to drop out and you push the towhitch through the bumper.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

tiz all looking good.

stif nuts might be a better bet, last thing you want is the bolt to drop out and you push the towhitch through the bumper.
surely a wing/nut fully onto thread of bolt isnt going to go anywhere and an M10 guess
tougher than 2" tubes. Prefer not needing spanners but then hey always got a set in the
boot amongst other really useful kit, no wonder mpg is shot with ballast we carry around!

[zippy656]

depends what you feel happy with, maybe bolt wing nut and a "R" pin just to stop the wingnut falling off.

[Paul]

depends what you feel happy with, maybe bolt wing nut and a "R" pin just to stop the wingnut falling off.
As you will only be using it to move the van into place can't see you losing the wing nut doing less then 5mph.

[Paul]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/black-plastic-end-caps-to-suit-50mm-square-tube-4-off_W0QQitemZ400022807395QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI _Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplie s_ET?hash=item400022807395&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

I am getting worried about you lot, these caps will push in easy but might be a little tough to get back out
What I would do with it is put a small nut & bolt in the middle to ack as a handle to pull it out with.

[zippy656]

As you will only be using it to move the van into place can't see you losing the wing nut doing less then 5mph.

thats true....

[tezzer]

what about these?--ebay 270303330752




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[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

what about these?--ebay 270303330752




tezzer

handy link, adding to ebay faves, otherwise trust Scott's opinion on fittings, afterall
the Guy is a pro bar fitter engineer.

cheques in the post, Scott btw, nooo it is!

[(RIP) PLANK]

on a slightly different tack but, i have never found a front tow/push bar to be all that usefull, in an off roading situation if one were strong enough to also act as a recovery point then i could see the point.

but in 'normal' situations towing caravans around etc i have never felt the need despit having them fitted.

I did use one once on a swb land rover manouvering a large static caravan inot place, but I probably could have done it with the normal towbar in reverse and only used the fron one because i could.

My point is, unless you are really convinced dont rush in to the exspencse of one and would it affect your insurance? would it need to be type aproved like the rear one? i dont know, just food for thought!

[tezzer]

Now then the situaton is if you use a bar and clip then you will have to drill a bigger hole in order to use a bar big enough to take a clip and will in effect reduce the steel left and weaken it. So I thought would be best to use an M10 bolt with a wing nut for ease


hi Thomas-the-Terrano2, what i meant was use the spring pin to fit hole in m10 bolt instead of using wing nut. thats what im using on mine, hopefully fitting it tuesday. :thumbs


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[scott301004]

on a slightly different tack but, i have never found a front tow/push bar to be all that usefull, in an off roading situation if one were strong enough to also act as a recovery point then i could see the point.

but in 'normal' situations towing caravans around etc i have never felt the need despit having them fitted.

I did use one once on a swb land rover manouvering a large static caravan inot place, but I probably could have done it with the normal towbar in reverse and only used the fron one because i could.

My point is, unless you are really convinced dont rush in to the exspencse of one and would it affect your insurance? would it need to be type aproved like the rear one? i dont know, just food for thought!

I never thought you was meant be driving round with them on car just for fun, that why you can take them of.

And the type approval is for road use Would you need road legal tyres for going off road?????

[tezzer]

on a slightly different tack but, i have never found a front tow/push bar to be all that usefull, in an off roading situation if one were strong enough to also act as a recovery point then i could see the point.

but in 'normal' situations towing caravans around etc i have never felt the need despit having them fitted.

I did use one once on a swb land rover manouvering a large static caravan inot place, but I probably could have done it with the normal towbar in reverse and only used the fron one because i could.

My point is, unless you are really convinced dont rush in to the exspencse of one and would it affect your insurance? would it need to be type aproved like the rear one? i dont know, just food for thought!



hi plank, they are a god send if you have a back or neck problem, as for insurance, if it does affect your insurance so should a winch and winch bumper, what do you reckon. :nenau




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[Deleted account DD]

I've always found front hitch points a godsend. On and off road.

You only have to watch tractors & landrovers positioning aircraft and other equipment on an airfield to see the difference in speed and precision between forward and reverse hitched manoeuvres. Believe you me when you've got multi buck wing tips and rotor blades passing within inches on the push, precision is all but you've still got to get it done at a decent rate.

I learnt that the hard way. Closely scrutinised reversing and pushing with normal fixed hitches and articulated links. Good fun and an excellent grounding for caravanning.

I think in caravanning terms we're only talking here about pushing them into a slot. The vast majority of people I've met who do that will tell you its much easier.

Having had quite some use out of wildbri's design on a twin axle 26ft van I can heartily support a front tow hitch for easy parking

[gadgetsyd]

Hi.Scott, my cheque is in the post for one as well. Syd

[(RIP) PLANK]

I never thought you was meant be driving round with them on car just for fun, that why you can take them of.

And the type approval is for road use Would you need road legal tyres for going off road?????

surely not all front tow ball systems are removeable I have had several vehicles with fixed front towballs! I must admint (and i know it is me being paranoid) but I dont like removable tow bar systems I dont have a lot of trust in them


off road? no no type aproval required I wouldnt thingk, but what would you need a front push bar for come to that? and how are you going to get to your off road location, fly? bear in mind green lanes are not strictly 'off road' but a normal part of the road network and your vehicle should be fit fo the road! though how well this is policed is anybodies guess!

I know some people like to swap wheels, move sockets etc. but the off road driving I do is not extreme but is still a part of every day working life, as is towing trailers and caravans on and off road, hence the swapping of bits and pieces being a bit too much trouble. I am usualy on 'elective' bridal paths and fields.

I have also found that unhitching and rehitching to the font bar is more troble than jsut reversing the trailer / caravan into a 'slot'

I often do this with a van with no back windows or rear view mirrors so back pain isn't an issue as I dont turn my head just look in the mirrors.

I am not ciriticising front puch bars, just advisng caution and be sure it is what you want before you spend money if its not what you need. I am sure in some situations of very poor access etc they are a brilliant, especially if the trailer is too heavy (or you have problems with) pushing into a tight spot if all else fails.

having read all your positive feelings towards them i may give one another go! see if I ave changed my views with age!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Plank, are you warming to idea? having discussed these with you personally I appreciate
your thoughts and experiences come from years of moving vans and trailers for a living.

For us meer mortals though the extra tug point is something we can gain more
experience of shunting with...personally my aim to to reduce number of watchers
required as it does come to point sometimes into my land where an unhitch is necessary
and then its down to shall we all push it in or get car back on. often its ends up with
both in that order when its remembered that even 3/4 folks are not a match for the
grunt of a t2.

A slightly offset bar i reckon will bring truck out to rivers edge of van to help with siting/
sighting issues. removable but quikly installed will mean no issues with vehicle profile,
though will mention to insurance, as it will become lowest part it may end up taken off
for heavier off road work to prevent grounding.

Finally at £52 delivered compared to Watling-towbars £150+ it is incredible value and I
hope Scott gets plenty more work out of this, I certainly think when demonstrated
on various other Clubs' rally fields there will be much interest. Good luck with Scott,
thanks also to Wildbri for originally sharing with us the main design features which we
grafted into a download last year.

[scott301004]

deffo wildbri is the instigator of all this all I have done is follow instructions and add a couple of differences

[Paul]

Scott you should receive our cheque within days.:thumb2

[zippy656]

scott youll have to make some more now then!

[Deleted account DD]

I've just got and fitted end caps on mine. Smartens it up no probs, an excellent addition.

One thing that has crossed my mind though, with the lower cap being such a tight fit, theres potential for any water that creeps in to remain inside.

Any thoughts?

[zippy656]

end cap on the back too then,.

got a pic?

[tezzer]

drill a small hole in it at bottom:thumb2



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[Deleted account DD]

End cap in the back would help and its already fitted but moisture and tin worm get in where a draft couldnt.

The hole drilling is the best bet but because of the cap shape and the way it fits closely internally the hole wouldnt be at the lowest point possible and there'd still be the potential for water to collect.

Hole drilling is the best option though and its already in the diary for tomorrow.

Still excellent tow bars though.

[Deleted account DD]

I'll sort some pics.

[Deleted account DD]

The tow bar points down, so when the caps in it forms a nice water holder at an angle, the bottom bit plastic, the upper level metal! I've just starting cleaning this, it was painted but its taken some stick through the winter:

[Deleted account DD]

and as you can see the back of the cap has the fins to hold it tight in which will seal it nicely.

I'm not complaining, far from it, but it crossed my mind that after a winter of free draining it would be a shame if it rusted away internally during the summer lol.

It'll be an easy fix but I wondered, before I take a drill or stanley knife to any part of it if anyone had any ideas

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

wouldnt a hole drilled on lower face at bottom edge all moisture to exit would likely
look like a half circle created by a routing bit. either to receiver or bung btw.

[Deleted account DD]

Yes the lower hole is the most practical option but it will be about 3/4'' up the way because of the fins and still leaves potential for some moisture to gather.

Thats what I'd planned to do tomorrow but I thought I'd run it past you guys.

[Jocky]

Spray the inside with waxoyl and you won't have to worry about rust.:thumb2


:)

[tezzer]

good idea jocky, i'll do mine sunday:thumb2:thumb2





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[Deleted account DD]

But just remember to that when your in the middle of that lovely campsite on a warm sunny day and the waxoyl has softened, you'll get it all over your hands and hawaiian shirt when you're dismantling the front tow bar.

Thats why I "degreased" mine, not that I wear a hawaiian shirt or go anywhere sunny ;)

[lacroupade]

you'll get it all over your hands and hawaiian shirt...

Another good reason not to own a caravan!! LMAO!!! :lol:lol:lol

[Deleted account DD]

Ah.but I can wash my hands and shirt ;) lol

[Jocky]

Well you could spray the inside with some decent paint, ie hammerite.:D

Get it shotblasted 1st to remove all traces of the dreaded brown stuff:D

[Deleted account DD]

Good scheme Jocky, I do feel a hammerite session coming on.

Having had a look this morning I reckon I'll cut a V in the inside bit of the cap to go on the bottom bit. That'll give a clear path for anything running down to the small hole on the lower bottom edge :) as well as making it easier to push in pull out.

[zippy656]

how fast you expect it to rust away then? sound like your talking in weeks!

lol

im sure it will out last the car

[Deleted account DD]

cant be too careful :)

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

What I really nice suprise, thought it was postman pat delivering new front bar, But nooo,
Its Scott at the door with it. Was in area and wanted to see it fitted, couple of minutes
it was on and then we got on with real task of putting world to rights over a cuppa!!

Thanks Scott, it really is even better than I expected and will get my spare jaw/ball onto
it later, leaving plug as only partially in as once in wont come out easily. Hope you got
some petrol on way home.

[Paul]

Scott, just been thinking have you got our cheque yet?

Paul.

[zippy656]

hay scott you do free fitting for every one then??
i can put the kettle on..

[scott301004]

yes the other two have left today via DHL. sorry for the delays.

[Paul]

yes the other two have left today via DHL. sorry for the delays.
Ta will be able to have a play with it at the wekend when we go down to the van..:D:D

[zippy656]

Ta will be able to have a play with it at the wekend when we go down to the van..:D:D

you mean show off then

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

you mean show off then

Deffo, we're off out this weekend, first time with new 'van. the front bar will be
on minute thru rally field in case needed to locate van or rescue anyone else.

Pix to follow.

[zippy656]

Pix to follow.

is always good

[scott301004]

Its all about customer service.

[Paul]

Thanx Scott it & the switch came today..:thumb2

[scott301004]

Am I safe to presume we have no problems with the first editions of the front tow hitches?

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Am I safe to presume we have no problems with the first editions of the front tow hitches?

So far great, will be pushing van out of garden in morning and get some business for
you on the rally field. have mentioned on Central Off Road Club but no takers yet
which has a mixture of mitsi,landy and toyota owners, plus quite a few derbyshire
area of our members also.

[zippy656]

Am I safe to presume we have no problems with the first editions of the front tow hitches?

yes there is see PM

[Deleted account DD]

yes there is see PM

Please expand, is it to do with height? Not yours ;)

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Scott & Wildbri,

what a fantastic bit of kit, successfully propelled caravan out of garden and 100ft.
in to a turning area, unhitched car, turned it and rehitched as normal. Coming home
almost reverse, unhitched, turned car to use front ball, dragged 'van in turning space
then propelled turning 'van 45 degrees almost on spot (which is a big deal for 20' twin
axle then upthe 100ft yard of garages and into out garden positioning it perfectly on
an 8' wide drive of slabs.

Could NOT have done it without the front ball kit and reckon with more practice and
abley assisted by Alison as my spotter for the blind spots we have saved upwards of
a grand in a axle motor movers. Even a ball / jocky type at several hundred £s would
not have been so much fun or as satisfying.

BIG CHEERS Guys, definitely worth a drink or two next time see you.

Everyone else get one, well worth it and better than doing your back in with modern
caravans or trailers getting so heavy.

Feedback, it may be that wing nut was too tight, but when finished had locked itself,
perhaps done to forces of twisting a 1660kg t/a, pair of pliers soon loosened it and
had a racket drive for bolt head just in case!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/album.php?albumid=1&pictureid=11

http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/album.php?albumid=1&pictureid=12

[lacroupade]

Why, when I'm dying to see, am I getting a message saying I'm not a club member when I try to get those links? :(:(:(

[TONUP]

Why, when I'm dying to see, am I getting a message saying I'm not a club member when I try to get those links? :(:(:(

And me...

[zippy656]

Why, when I'm dying to see, am I getting a message saying I'm not a club member when I try to get those links? :(:(:(

i get that too..

:nenau:nenau

[lacroupade]

guess our P45s are in the post then...

[zippy656]

guess our P45s are in the post then...

could be..

must have been some thing i said in my very FEW posts... after all I dont say a lot.

[tezzer]

im getting the same message. :nenau





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[Deleted account DD]

TtheT2, good to see it worked so well. I know I've said before I recomended it but I was waiting to see if anyone said the same re motor movers, youre bang on.

Our van is a large twin axle and we were looking at a motor mover and we realised the price!

[Hilltop]

Why, when I'm dying to see, am I getting a message saying I'm not a club member when I try to get those links? :(:(:(

And me




.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

pix are there in my gallery, but when i tried to swap /url for /img got little red crosses
instead of pictures in post. anyone tell me how to link pictures, not much of a mod am
i but not done on this newer site.

[lacroupade]

I assume if you just cut and paste the link T?

and pull yer finger out; we're gagging here!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

shows front hitch, van shunted into garden with ease.
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=11
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=10

view from drivers seat down side of 'van, thanks to offset coupling point.
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=12


yay! can you see 'em now?

[Liam]

shows front hitch, van shunted into garden with ease.
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=11
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=10

view from drivers seat down side of 'van, thanks to offset coupling point.
http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=12


yay! can you see 'em now?

No!!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

darn wot you getting? message?, used link found in my gallery, said bb link.

http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=10

gives a link that opens in another window, anyone else see it?

[Liam]

darn wot you getting? message?, used link found in my gallery, said bb link.

http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=10

gives a link that opens in another window, anyone else see it?

Says it didn't match any documents.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

bizarre, all 3 pix appear in your post. sounds like a job for a Bat, well the Bat...

[lacroupade]

T that link just goes to a blank explorer/firefox window...

Can't you just cut and paste the link from the address bar where you are looking at your pictures?

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

have done its link above

done it again

http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=10
looks like one above.

alternatively can you get into my gallery, as links are to there anyway.

looks like will have to upload to picasa in mean time.

[scott301004]

Scott & Wildbri,

what a fantastic bit of kit, successfully propelled caravan out of garden and 100ft.
in to a turning area, unhitched car, turned it and rehitched as normal. Coming home
almost reverse, unhitched, turned car to use front ball, dragged 'van in turning space
then propelled turning 'van 45 degrees almost on spot (which is a big deal for 20' twin
axle then upthe 100ft yard of garages and into out garden positioning it perfectly on
an 8' wide drive of slabs.

Could NOT have done it without the front ball kit and reckon with more practice and
abley assisted by Alison as my spotter for the blind spots we have saved upwards of
a grand in a axle motor movers. Even a ball / jocky type at several hundred £s would
not have been so much fun or as satisfying.

BIG CHEERS Guys, definitely worth a drink or two next time see you.


Everyone else get one, well worth it and better than doing your back in with modern
caravans or trailers getting so heavy.

Feedback, it may be that wing nut was too tight, but when finished had locked itself,
perhaps done to forces of twisting a 1660kg t/a, pair of pliers soon loosened it and
had a racket drive for bolt head just in case!
Might not be such a bad thing it tightening uo because surely its better than it dropping out and your van coming away?

If that was to happen Mrs Thomas the terrano would without doubt kick my head in I presume?

[Liam]

bizarre, all 3 pix appear in your post. sounds like a job for a Bat, well the Bat...

When I check the link the picture info is that it is in GIF format and the picture size is 1 pixel x 1 Pixel. That is sort of tiny picture size,no wonder I can't see it!!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

When I check the link the picture info is that it is in GIF format and the picture size is 1 pixel x 1 Pixel. That is sort of tiny picture size,no wonder I can't see it!!


weird as pix are 600 or 700 wide, must be a privacy thing but cant see in CP how to
open up viewing hence asking about other peoples galleries here on this site.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Might not be such a bad thing it tightening uo because surely its better than it dropping out and your van coming away?

If that was to happen Mrs Thomas the terrano would without doubt kick my head in I presume?

Scott, mrs was really impressed, think till used was maybe just another fad but makes
you look so good as manouvering and agreed there was no way we would have twisted
van around using rear hitch, thinking what can do with cash saved on mover...

[zippy656]

pics pics pics

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/zippy656/GetAttachment.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/zippy656/GetAttachment1.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/zippy656/GetAttachment2.jpg

here we go..

service with a smile! and your the MOD!

[Liam]

pics pics pics

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/zippy656/GetAttachment.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/zippy656/GetAttachment1.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/zippy656/GetAttachment2.jpg

here we go..

service with a smile! and your the MOD!

Thank God!!! Well done zippy, I was almost going back on the fags after 17 years as I had all my hair pulled out and all the coffee drank. Nice pics. By the way zippy,how did you do it?http://www.websmileys.com/sm/smoking/rauch27.gif

[zippy656]

Thank God!!! Well done zippy, I was almost going back on the fags after 17 years as I had all my hair pulled out and all the coffee drank. Nice pics. By the way zippy,how did you do it?http://www.websmileys.com/sm/smoking/rauch27.gif

do what??


oh, cause im clever i am...

pics were emailed to me,
the added them into my photobuckets
then posted onto tis site.

see told you im clever..

[scott301004]

seems to do the job! ready for some more projects now I think

[zippy656]

what about a removable winch mount..

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

what about a removable winch mount..


or a winch bumper?

[(RIP) PLANK]

these front bars have certainly had some good feedback here! so they must be good!:thumb2

I take it all back :doh

[zippy656]

you seen the pics too i hope.

i want one..

along with every thing else i want...

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

these front bars have certainly had some good feedback here! so they must be good!:thumb2

I take it all back :doh

certainly did save my bacon. by shunting with front of car got more angle in a confined
area than ever would on rear ball. alternative would have been to reverse it from a main
road up a 100 foot drive just wider than caravan, around a corner then another 100 foot
into garden all looking over my shoulder and likely harder on clutch too.

[(RIP) PLANK]

is anyone still making these? or does someone have one they don't want? Cheers in advance, now don't let me down :thumbs

[Deleted account DD]

is anyone still making these? or does someone have one they don't want? Cheers in advance, now don't let me down :thumbs

Have one sitting not 50 foot from me and no Terrano to put it on :thumb2

Drop me a pm when you read this if youre interested

cheers

[(RIP) PLANK]

have sent pm'S :thumbs

[wildbri]

As made with my loving hands, mine is six feet from me ,caravanning in Southport on our way to the Isle of Wight via the Cotswolds and the South coast. Surfing the internet with my Vodafone dongle.. Hot and sunny all day here, lets hope it is like this for the next six weeks we are away touring in the caravan. regards bri

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

plank as i live and breath thought you were hardcore reversing champ.

mine was good from scott on here (or was) sold it do another troll owner
to modify fromt2 fitment otherwise could have been yours for a song...

[(RIP) PLANK]

well, i now have back 'issues' and need to use more restricted parking places after a copuple of break in's that has left me needing to move trailers from their original storage locations.

I have reached an agreement with daved and so hopefuly will be abe to see what you have all been banging on about ;)

[zippy656]

just remember to put it on the ns, so you can see down one side of the trailer

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

just remember to put it on the ns, so you can see down one side of the trailer

it was great, my caravan is quite wide, guessing 7'4" or 7'6" and os of car formed
a line with side of caravan, easily to look out forwards over drivers mirror and see rear
corner.

[(RIP) PLANK]

cheers for the advice and help everyone, I should soon be the proud psesor of a 'wildbri special' :thumbs

[(RIP) PLANK]

I now have my front tow bar courtesy of DaveD and of course wildbir for maing it in the first place. I am now strugling with bolts to fit, anyone got any knocking around?

I have tried all sorts of places today!

[zippy656]

take off the pig tail and use them two

[(RIP) PLANK]

zippy656 tow probems,

one, the original bolts are too short

two, the pigtail is missing, someone beat me too it

but i have a new potential supplier to try tomorrow.

[zippy656]

oh.

[(RIP) PLANK]

I got the bolts today and fitted the bar, the threads didn't seem to clever in the holes but it's done now. I did take a pic but left my camara in the glove box :doh

[zippy656]

well... go get it then!

[(RIP) PLANK]

i can't be bothered, I'll do it tomorrow though ..... honest :)

[(RIP) PLANK]

photo as requested

[Deleted account DD]

Smart as :thumb2:clap

[(RIP) PLANK]

i sprayed the back and the chassis with grease before fttting and even sprayed grease with a straw on the can through a tiny hole on the bolts that protruded after and Spring washers for safety.

Thnaks for the deal Daved

if only i hadn't cross threaded the bolts :lol still nobody's perfect :thumbs

[zippy656]

looks good....

id have one if i didnt have an A BAR

[(RIP) PLANK]

i'm going to use it for the first time tomorrow repositioning trailers and locking them all up before we go to Appleby on Tuesday. :thumb2

I might get some practice with our small trailer in an open field first though

[Deleted account DD]

looks good....

id have one if i didnt have an A BAR


I think youve made the right decision living where you do, the front tow bar is only useful for moving trailers and caravans whereas at least the a bar stops itinerant roo's,elk and bison crashing into the front panels :augie

[Deleted account DD]

I might get some practice with our small trailer in an open field first though


Its one of those things once youve had a go you'll wonder why youve never bothered before :thumb2

[(RIP) PLANK]

Its one of those things once youve had a go you'll wonder why youve never bothered before :thumb2

I have noticed one potential drawback allready!

I have one caravan that is 8 feet wide and it needs to go though an 8' 6" gap from a narow lane which means reversing it at a 90 degree angle to the road. Now this is difficult enough backwards and the tyres often look like they are going to roll off the rims!

now with the bar on the nearside the car will not go through the gap after it :doh

so it means turning orund once round he corner and putting it back on the back!

But apart from that i'm looking forward to giving it a trial tomorrow.

[wildbri]

Looks good. off to the horse fair then Mr Plank, taking a caravan? The police are restricting
road side camping this year, they had fenced off all the grassy lay byes when I drove through a couple of weeks ago. regards bri

[(RIP) PLANK]

they have restrictions within 1.5 miles of fair hill apparently, they try every year to make things safer/ better and some of the ideas are more sucessfull than others. But overall i think the efort put in is well spent, as for these restrictions i supose we will see how well they work in the days after the fair.