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Hi everyone new on here , i am a mechanic , maseratis & ferraris!, managed to avoid working any length on diesels .
I had a 2.7 51 plate terrano as a company car loved it but milage got to nearing 200k and did a deal to change for a subaru imp , nice but no terrano , so got me self a cheap (£650) mavarick '97 to smoke about in , now i've been looking at terranos again so whats better 2.7 or 3.0 ?
Thoughts would be good
Cheers Russ
3.0
Tax is not much more expensive, but the engine is more powerful and more economical. You don't hear too many complaints on here, but then again the 3.0 is much rarer.
I think If I had a choice, id go for the 3.0 despite my experience being with the 2.7. Im fairly sure the 3.0 engine is as reliable though, but hopefully some of the guys on here will know better.
2.7 any day, parts are so much easier to get ahold of.
mymini007
17-09-2013, 21:50
4.2 :sly
Both got pros and cons. 3.0 is more powerful, and better on juice. 2.7tdi Has no cambelt or chain to worry about, which for me is :thumb2 . Also runs on veg oil which for me is :D
I just bought 3.0 so thats what ill go for but it does have broken gearbox :doh
Thanks for the replies been trawling ebay an autotrader this past week and nobody I know from the trade knows anything about either to be fair , must be moving in the wrong circles :D
Liking the 4.2 idea tho:thumbs
Think its going to be a late 2.7 , once borrowed a shogun bloody rubbish
Russ
exosteve
17-09-2013, 22:06
2.7.:D
exosteve
17-09-2013, 22:10
Thanks for the replies been trawling ebay an autotrader this past week and nobody I know from the trade knows anything about either to be fair , must be moving in the wrong circles :D
Liking the 4.2 idea tho:thumbs
Think its going to be a late 2.7 , once borrowed a shogun bloody rubbish
Russ
A customer of mine is just having his gearbox refurbed on his 54 plate 3.0ltr
and then selling it:nenau
it is in very well looked after condition but knowing him he will want top dollar.
Thomas-the-Terrano2
17-09-2013, 22:15
bit torn a 3.0 in my troll, had the known issues HGF, cracked pistons, was due all the turbo sensors so traded in went back to ol' faithful 2.7tdi our second terrano.
to be fair by time 3.0 went in terrano issues were sorted. but parts are more expensive
and open heart surgery can be double the book hours.
suppose if factor the better performance and mpg might be worth a punt oh and
insurance will be higher.
suppose could look at 2.7 and get a chip or re-map to about same output.
or could just use loud pedal more.... :)
Not had a 2.7 but I'm really happy with my 3.0
Got it with a brand new turbo fitted and new clutch & transfer box. Not without a couple of minor issues, but majority niggles are just every day common ones to both the 2.7 and 3.0 from what I've read here.
I like the bit of extra power and better MPG the 3.0 gives me and that was the swaying factor.
Insurance and tax didn't come out with all that much difference overall when I took everything into consideration too.
Mine's been in to local mechanic recently to have the belt tensioner looked at and he said the 3.0 is as reliable as they come - should go on and on and on. I have no first hand experience of this as yet! lol
The guys here know WAY more than me as this is my first T2. When I've searched for parts, 2.7 bits are more readily available (and cheaper), but then there seems to be plenty that are shared between the two, so not all bad.
It depends what your priorities are. You can run the 2.7 on veg oil whereas the 3.0 you can't, so that pretty much takes care of the MPG argument I guess!
Me, I'd buy a 3.0 again :thumbs
More than happy with my 2.7TDI. The 3.0 does have more power.Maximum speed limit is 70mph,anyway.Mine would easily exceed that should i want to.I don't do any towing
so extra power is not a issue for.
But one point,200k is not a awful lot,if it has been looked after/serviced.Good luck with your Ford Maverick.
Thanks again , the mavs a good tool a bit tatty but good for chuckin me racin gear in without worrying , just want to upgrade still swaying towards 2.7 , better the devil you know and all that .:thumb2
For me the 2.7 td ( non intercooler) is more reliable than the 2.7tdi ( intercooler) or the 3.0 litre.
Low technology, so less to go wrong.
The 2.7 td gives more on road hours than garage hours, you spend more time driving it than working to pay for repairs.
Re the 3.0 litre, the clutch is under a greater strain and so is the gearbox, I know the clutch is upgraded, but not sure about the gearbox, there have been a few issues here.
As mentioned, the earlier Patrol 3 litre engines had a few issues, but resolved when fitted to the Terrano.
More important is the history, oil changes, general fluid changes etc, and the dreaded tin worm can get a hold in places.
Rustic
I've got a 3.0, so biased.
Downers? It doesn't run on veg oil (presumably cos of the pump?). Theres way more info and experience on here of the 2.7.
Uppers? The bonnet has a bigger air scoop and looks better :)
Ude the loud pedal, and the back end spins up and steps out. (this can also be a downer...)
MPG? the difference must be negligible in the real world. I tend to drive it like a granny, unless there's a tinted window corsa next to me, and the MPG is crap :)
the 3.0 makes a great noise too :)
I am with you on the Corsa thing..
mymini007
19-09-2013, 12:34
Liking the 4.2 idea tho:thumbs
Russ
Do it :thumb2
Right kids been an gone an done it , after a couple of weeks trawling trader and flea bay went to look at 2 today , a proper nice '54 black with black 81k nice thing , then went to spy on a red 53 40k:clap
Plumped for the latter like a new car pick it up next sat and bagged £600 for my mav p/x so got it for £2800
Do like a bargain
http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/11/45/94/92/media10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1312&u=11459492)
zippy656
28-09-2013, 15:08
Very nice!
Thomas-the-Terrano2
28-09-2013, 18:09
that reminds me of the carpark at Eyam.
very nice! I was going for that colour or blue - ended up with blue.
3.0 by the looks ?
2,7 , very close with eyam , from a lad in furness vale near new mills , only just took it in ,he does mostly vans and light trucks , picking it up next sat:thumb2
i like it and tbh i would have gone 2.7 over 3 litre... theres plenty power and you dont need speed or you would have bought a fast car..
no timming bely does it for me...
firebobby
28-09-2013, 20:32
i like it and tbh i would have gone 2.7 over 3 litre... theres plenty power and you dont need speed or you would have bought a fast car..
no timming bely does it for me...
3.0 doesn't have a timing bely or belt :doh,
had both and prefer the 3.0 over the 2.7
:lol:lol i'l get over it... i think
firebobby
29-09-2013, 18:21
:lol:lol i'l get over it... i think
I think they have pills for that sort of thing :augie:lol
Picked car up yesterday ,drives mint , couple of things to sort , new tires tomorrow , order a fan resistor , get rid of dog smell :lol
Book in for a couple of dings to get done , not this week tho got a mission to ipswich next saturday , not fitted swipers steps yet either ...........................got a bathroom to organise as well you know
Russ:thumb2
I was torn between the 2.7 & 3L but after many hours googling about the 3L & the problems they can suffer plus the price of fixing one I went with what I know & bought my second 2.7TDI & slotted in a K&N filter which makes it more lively but also returns better MPG ie on a long run doing 55-60MPH i'm getting 34-35MPG. A remap is on the cards which should boost the output to around 155BHP
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