Towing capablites

[Lincs Mav]

Quick question what sort of weight will my 2.7td maverick swb be capable of towing?

Cheers Gav

[TONUP]

If its a manual, I reckon 2800kg.

Regards

Alan

[Lincs Mav]

Cheers Alan much appreciated..

Cheers Gav

[Big Col]

If its a manual, I reckon 2800kg.

Regards

Alan

Tail wagging the dog me thinks!

[briggie]

will tell you in the workshop manual

[96terrano]

mine pulled 2000kg happily, tho i'm probably taking the towbar off

[geoffdown]

Tail wagging the dog me thinks!

How many caravans do u no. That weight it will tow a trailer with 2800kgs fine just remember if loaded correctly will not wag

[96terrano]

How many caravans do u no. That weight it will tow a trailer with 2800kgs fine just remember if loaded correctly will not wag

most of the loaded weight towards the front iirc?

[solarman216]

I tow a 450 kg 4 wheel trailer with a LWB T2 on it regular, and no probs at all, never had a twitch unless hitting road rutting at 70, cos the trailer wheels cannot follow the ruts, ride up one side then up the other, time then to slow to 50 at this speed rock solid, Rick

[Big Col]

How many caravans do u no. That weight it will tow a trailer with 2800kgs fine just remember if loaded correctly will not wag

Well just to enlighten you, Been towing caravans a good few years now, I have also had 2.7 LWB and currently have a 3.0 LWB. My caravan weighs 1925kg loaded its a twin axle. Whilst I would say it pulls it quite well I do know it's on the back.

While might say it will pull 2800kg I would beg to differ it would do it safely. Try doing a hill start with that weight and you will see what I mean. I see so many unsafe units on the road generally driven by idiots who have'nt a clue.
A SWB kerb weight is nowhere near 2800 kg imagine doing an emergency stop with that weight on the back from 60 mph the mind boggles. Colin

[cncfabs]

Well just to enlighten you, Been towing caravans a good few years now, I have also had 2.7 LWB and currently have a 3.0 LWB. My caravan weighs 1925kg loaded its a twin axle. Whilst I would say it pulls it quite well I do know it's on the back.

While might say it will pull 2800kg I would beg to differ it would do it safely. Try doing a hill start with that weight and you will see what I mean. I see so many unsafe units on the road generally driven by idiots who have'nt a clue.
A SWB kerb weight is nowhere near 2800 kg imagine doing an emergency stop with that weight on the back from 60 mph the mind boggles. Colin

I tow at those sort of weights with my swb fourtrak if you are having trouble with emergency stop at 60 mph then your caravan/trailer brakes are faulty.The breaking on my trailer when loaded are better than the tow vehicle i can brake and then ease off and you can feel the trailer pulling you up.

[Peasgood1]

I tow at those sort of weights with my swb fourtrak if you are having trouble with emergency stop at 60 mph then your caravan/trailer brakes are faulty.The breaking on my trailer when loaded are better than the tow vehicle i can brake and then ease off and you can feel the trailer pulling you up.

How does that work then? :confused:

[Big Col]

How does that work then? :confused:

I don't get that either :nenau

[geoffdown]

I don't get that either :nenau

What he means is he can feel the trailer pulling him back when he release the foot brake as his trailer brakes work towing a caravan is diff then towing say car trailer with a big car on its to do with aerodynamics and a caravan is like a big brick again u have to load trailer correctly as if u dont it will wag u could tow a lighter caravan but if u load it wrong then it will wag again:thumbs

[rustic]

... i can brake and then ease off and you can feel the trailer pulling you up.

If these are over- run brakes, then they can't possibly pull you up, the only way the brakes work on the trailer is by compressing the hitch, thus the trailer is PUSHING the vehicle at all times during braking, unless of course you are going up a steep hill at the time.

If the brakes on the trailer are not set correctly, or the damper on the over-run is faulty, then the trailer can really thump the rear of the car, not a good idea.

We have towed over2000 kg with our manual 2.7td LWB, straight as a dart.
Twin axle trailer, the trailer with boat is over 26 feet long.
No stabiliser, just have the weight and hitch load balanced correctly.

With two up in the Mav.... we still outweigh the boat and trailer.... just.:eek:

So 100% rule applies.ie Car weight = trailer weight

Never had the tail wagging the dog, even when lorries and coaches overtake.
Or indeed as we overtake them.
60 mph, boy it wants to go faster, you have to be careful to watch the speed.

Braking down hill with 2 tonne on the back...
NOW that is something else:eek:
I fitted drilled and slotted rossini discs on the front. Much better.


Rustic

[TONUP]

Ok, so it can legally tow a trailer of 2800kg's.

That's according to the manufacturer.

Perhaps my answer lacked the conciseness required?

Regards

Alan

[Peasgood1]

I'm pretty sure we all understood your question but as this is an internet forum it is required that the thread should develop into an argument about something else. :)

[cncfabs]

If these are over- run brakes, then they can't possibly pull you up, the only way the brakes work on the trailer is by compressing the hitch, thus the trailer is PUSHING the vehicle at all times during braking, unless of course you are going up a steep hill at the time.

If the brakes on the trailer are not set correctly, or the damper on the over-run is faulty, then the trailer can really thump the rear of the car, not a good idea.

We have towed over2000 kg with our manual 2.7td LWB, straight as a dart.
Twin axle trailer, the trailer with boat is over 26 feet long.
No stabiliser, just have the weight and hitch load balanced correctly.

With two up in the Mav.... we still outweigh the boat and trailer.... just.:eek:

So 100% rule applies.ie Car weight = trailer weight

Never had the tail wagging the dog, even when lorries and coaches overtake.
Or indeed as we overtake them.
60 mph, boy it wants to go faster, you have to be careful to watch the speed.

Braking down hill with 2 tonne on the back...
NOW that is something else:eek:
I fitted drilled and slotted rossini discs on the front. Much better.


Rustic

What happens is when you brake you have to overcome the spring and the brakes come on they dont go off until the tow vehicle pulls away from the trailer its not simply a case of on or off if it was the trailer brakes would constantly be on and off jerking you all over the place.The point i was making re trailer pulling the car up is decending a hill you can hit the brakes coulping compresses then gently come off the brakes the trailer is still pushing the car trailer brakes stay on until you accelarate away from trailer.
Original question was answered correctly t2 can tow 2800kg dont let caravan club tell you different

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

tow weights and you'll find are factored in on the vin plate are based on ability to restart
on a 1 in 8 uphill.

many suvs a little bigger are 3500kg trailer.

in some cases of extreme gradients off caravan sites and farm lanes I used low box to double
the torque and spread it over both axles. wheb shunting on a grass field i uise low 4 as well
to reduce rear wheels trying to chew up the surface with my twin axle at 1660kg., saves
clutch wear too.

[trophymick]

I use 4 low for reversing the caravan or trailer, makes it a nice speed and saves the clutch. :thumb2

[melissachels]

Quick question what sort of weight will my 2.7td maverick swb be capable of towing?

Cheers Gav

easily tows 2.7t....erm thats what a lr weights anyho :thumbs:lol

[briggie]

surely the definitive answer to the op , is to look at what the manual says ? .... I would but I don't know in which section to find it :o

[cncfabs]

surely the definitive answer to the op , is to look at what the manual says ? .... I would but I don't know in which section to find it :o

The definitive answer is on the chassis plate thats were mr plod will look if you get pulled.The question was answered in post number 2:thumb2

[briggie]

The definitive answer is on the chassis plate thats were mr plod will look if you get pulled.The question was answered in post number 2:thumb2

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[RobN]

It is not the weight that screws you up it is how it is towed what speed etc.

What is the max weight you can tow - see handbook.
Also see what your towing bracket is rated at, see also is it a braked or unbraked trailer, see also what speed are my tyres rated for, see also what are the road/ off road conditions, see also how far are you travelling, see also what is the ambient temp, see also is it high or low sided etc. etc.

Basically the caravanning fraternity recommend no more than 85% of the kerbweight for beginners rising to 100% for experienced people, but there are many factors. If you have an accident (and survive) the plod can do you for having an unsafe load for just about anything :sly

I have been towing caravans for over 25 years (17 with a Terrano) and never had a problem until this year. I stupidly :o traded in my 2.7 TDi (12 years from New) for shiny 3 year old Rav 4. Joining the M3 from the west I suddenly felt the back end move and looking in my mirrors I saw the caravan broadside on and swinging form side to side :eek: (missus shouting STOP IT ROBERT). I gently eased off the speed and gently steered to keep myself relatively straight, luckily, loosing energy the swing stabilised. My brother in law, towing behind me, reckoned I was using all 3 lanes and I was going to crash.

Anyway long story short, tow what you can convince a policeman that it is safe and even then take care (Don't use a Rav):doh

[RobN]

Sorry a little bit more:
Depending on the age of the vehicle you may have to have a type approved Towbar and euro towball.

[MudLifeCrisis]

As said above towing limits tell you the max weight that can pull away off a gradient and therefore are more a guide to engine power than anything else. Just because it can pull away with that weight up a hill doesn't mean it will stop it going done one . For caravans 85 to 90% of kerbweight loaded correctly would considered acceptable by both caravan clubs but with experience a weight in the 90's is often used. As for trailers a weight nearer the tow limit can be used as the effects of wind and passing trucks is less of a problem. I have towed 2 1/2 tonne of car and trailer behind mine with no worries but do have 30 odd years of towing experience.

Brian

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

I wonder if 4x4s hill start weight is based on use of lowbox, cant see ever read it
but some of Caravan Club Tow Car of Year Tests have mentioned on test track
have struggled to restart some pickup and suv combinations though usually moan
about inability of handbrake to hold the rig.

There are many cars with similar size engines and no transfer with lower tow weights
though of course the fun would be trying to get back into high box once rolling, oh
and transmission wind up....