T2 - what next?

[(RIP) PLANK]

I have owned several Terranos over a number of years along with many other 4x4s. I know this will probably be my last one as they are all getting older and I have never found a newer one that I was convinced by.

So what's next? any suggestions?

[briggie]

vw amarok :naughty

[puddle hoppers inc.]

i reckon i will go for a disco 3 or nissan pathfinder next tbh, prefer the pathfinder. but i dont off road so ability doesnt really come into it.

[briggie]

vw tuareg :naughty

[stevo]

there are a lot of able 4x4s out there, however, once you start buying newer cars (post 2006 I think) then the road tax increases to a point where its just not viable to purchase them second hand as we do now.

The appeal of the terrano for me is that for what you get, they are cheap and reliable, and don't have the cult following of say a defender, or landcruiser.

So I reckon something petrol based maybe, or my bicycle :)

[puddle hoppers inc.]

there are a lot of able 4x4s out there, however, once you start buying newer cars (post 2006 I think) then the road tax increases to a point where its just not viable to purchase them second hand as we do now.

The appeal of the terrano for me is that for what you get, they are cheap and reliable, and don't have the cult following of say a defender, or landcruiser.

So I reckon something petrol based maybe, or my bicycle :)
that said, we go to wales(benar beach) as often as possible, there is a gorgeous tho far from new and far from pristine lwb defender on rusty steels with huge wheels that i look at everytime and say to myself "oooh umph", but then i think mpg and stuff. i will take a pic tomorrow. its bound to be there!

[MudLifeCrisis]

Love my Terracan :lol

[stinka]

Budget ?

If its pretty big, on a year old truck I'd say an amarok, my mates is fantastic !

Other than that I love the hilux and the new Isuzu dmax is a very nice bit of kit

[stevo]

that said, we go to wales(benar beach) as often as possible, there is a gorgeous tho far from new and far from pristine lwb defender on rusty steels with huge wheels that i look at everytime and say to myself "oooh umph", but then i think mpg and stuff. i will take a pic tomorrow. its bound to be there!

I know what you mean - I love defenders, and have had loads, and the MPG isn't as bad as you think!

However, before a trip, I used to spend a weekend changing oils etc, and preparing not to break down!

[rustic]

As we may longer be towing the boat when the Mav pops it's clogs, I was thinking my next motor could be a Skoda Yetti, 4x4 version of course, any feed back good or bad:nenau

Top gear managed to land a helicopter on one of them, not something I need to do, but could come in handy.:augie

Diesel capable of 45-50 mpg on a good day.

Some good tyres for the winter and sorted.

It looks a bit box like but seem fairly reliable as far as I have heard.

best regards,

Rustic

[larson]

hilux are nice but if i had money it would defenatly be a landcruser

[DEE]

As we may longer be towing the boat when the Mav pops it's clogs, I was thinking my next motor could be a Skoda Yetti, 4x4 version of course, any feed back good or bad:nenau

Top gear managed to land a helicopter on one of them, not something I need to do, but could come in handy.:augie

Diesel capable of 45-50 mpg on a good day.

Some good tyres for the winter and sorted.

It looks a bit box like but seem fairly reliable as far as I have heard.

best regards,

Rustic

All i can tell you from my friend who has one Nice car he says BUT like a drink :doh

[puddle hoppers inc.]

As we may longer be towing the boat when the Mav pops it's clogs, I was thinking my next motor could be a Skoda Yetti, 4x4 version of course, any feed back good or bad:nenau

Top gear managed to land a helicopter on one of them, not something I need to do, but could come in handy.:augie

Diesel capable of 45-50 mpg on a good day.

Some good tyres for the winter and sorted.

It looks a bit box like but seem fairly reliable as far as I have heard.

best regards,

Rustic
what do they weigh? i always thought they were a bit small?

[puddle hoppers inc.]

Budget ?

If its pretty big, on a year old truck I'd say an amarok, my mates is fantastic !

Other than that I love the hilux and the new Isuzu dmax is a very nice bit of kit

ooh the amorak! it is huuuugggge! looks good, only problem is i work on the railway and it sounds like anorak lol! its baby hummer size isnt it?

[stinka]

Nah it's same size as the rest of the double cabs, only a tad wider, maybe 6 inches if that

[puddle hoppers inc.]

really? it looks massively wide? anyway back on track.....

[puddle hoppers inc.]

hang on a minute, its 10.5 inches wider than a navara, thats a bit wider lol :D
thats BIG!

[stinka]

10.5 inches is quite average here mate ...

[stinka]

LOL I WISH :lol

Half that would do :p

[puddle hoppers inc.]

he he!

[rustic]

what do they weigh? i always thought they were a bit small?

Yeti 4x4 variant weighs just over 1500 kg, with a towing capacity of 2000 kg

Not bad really:thumbs

Most parts running gear etc based on Mk 5 Golf and transmission from other cars in the VAG group. So pretty well "tough as old boot", as VW used to say about the original Golf.

[puddle hoppers inc.]

ah, as apposed to the anorak i always thought they were quite small, that said my old vectra weighed in at around 1500. depends on the depreciation a bit too, whereas the price of skodas sank like stones they really are holding money nowdays.

[96terrano]

Patrol y61 or the new landcruiser :D

[makeitfit]

Patrol or 'Cruiser , proper bit of kit and world rated :thumb2
New 4x4s tend to be a bit more all terrain than offroad biased and in that form they're bloody good. BUT I just can't help falling for the old skool heritage of the Trol and 'Cruiser :naughty

[96terrano]

Mmmmmmm

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xUNbbkvngvc/UJYALl3Dr2I/AAAAAAAABjo/5TXAkXxH_A4/s1600/toyota-land-cruiser-cygnus-01.jpg

[jims-terrano]

Yeti 4x4 variant weighs just over 1500 kg, with a towing capacity of 2000 kg

Not bad really:thumbs

Most parts running gear etc based on Mk 5 Golf and transmission from other cars in the VAG group. So pretty well "tough as old boot", as VW used to say about the original Golf.

Yeah I was thinking of this motor too.

Also like it's ugly little brother the Roomster for a practical motor.

Wife wants an old defender, she doesn't do much mileage so fuel wont be a problem. Loved the Terrano to bits but they've had their day really in a lot of ways. Never done a lot of green laning so we really don't need anything that capable really and as said the cost of road tax is stupid.

[(RIP) PLANK]

I tow some pretty heavy stuff so a yeti wouldn't do the job, and I drive off road most days. I have never been a fan of crew cabs (and I never buy german cars on principle) I have considered a Hyundai Terracan they seem a lot of car for the money. You need a mortgage for a decent land cruiser and the 3.0 patrol has put me off them for life.

[stinka]

In that case a G Wagon

[jims-terrano]

In that case a G Wagon

German mate:doh

[stinka]

Tbf German motors are the best in the world :)

[melissachels]

vw tuareg :naughty

I've heard they are really good but never drove one, don't get a new disco tho cos they have built in fault codes that are designed to pop up in the 4th year after manufacture

[stinka]

Got a link to the disco faults ?

[Big Col]

Disco 3 for me

[melissachels]

Got a link to the disco faults ?

soz no it was a "heard it on the grape vine" thing from a mate thats been working in the lr factory, I know the new rangie with fold down automatic/electronic steps is one cos you can't drive with steps down & guess what that does :lol

[firebobby]

I may look at the Nissan Pathfinder or the Volvo XC90, defo won't be paying £400 + a year for tax though...total piss take:(

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Maybe one of the last terranos, or a pathfinder, might be persuade by to a troll if sure
new enough not to have engine issues.

Need a 7 seater, might even go Transit Torneo and loose the 4wd unless fall on a county
conversion. Would lke more seats and boot, perhaps 2wd transit with anaftermarket
LSD or locker could give virtual 4wd for caravan on slippy sites.

A shogun, or LR D3.

[(RIP) PLANK]

there are new 4x4 transits, a bit pricey though!

[96terrano]

Buy a van and convert it into a motorhome like I'm intending on doing:D

[bry]

IF available.it would be a Hilux.

[makeitfit]

Buy a van and convert it into a motorhome like I'm intending on doing:D

Thread - jacker :lol

[96terrano]

Thread - jacker :lol

Was it that obviouse?:augie Bollocks :lol

[makeitfit]

:augie nah straight over me head :lol

[bry]

Tut Tut.

[96terrano]

Sorry, but everyone should own a motorhome or campervan atleast once in their life :D

[firebobby]

Sorry, but everyone should own a motorhome or campervan atleast once in their life :D

What about a caravan :p

[jims-terrano]

The stupid road tax is a killer for me so doubt I'll be getting another 4x4, not just 4x4's I know but they do tend to have the larger engines.

[JimE]

What about a caravan :p

I am seriously thinking of picking up a cheap caravan, not going to replace the Mav for a while, it's too solid! Anyone got a cheapie caravan they don't want? Lol

[Deano400]

What about a Navara ? Cheapish Tax, lots of parts around and well made. Not bad on fuel too.
Mine was remapped, big intercooler, big exhaust, uprated brakes, body lift and lots of toys. 230hp and 400 torques as Jeremy Clarkson would say. Just under 8 secs to 60mph and nearly 30mpg, depending on how you drive.

Here's mine in the various guises I had it.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/11123.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/Dean33GTST/media/11123.jpg.html)

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/SDC14255-1.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/Dean33GTST/media/SDC14255-1.jpg.html)
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/2011-10-20144530.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/Dean33GTST/media/2011-10-20144530.jpg.html)

[bry]

Sorry, but everyone should own a motorhome or campervan atleast once in their life :D
So ya not a top gear fan then?:D

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Nice looking Nav there, and mods too, dont see many so treated..

Other ones for me would be Kia Sorrento, as 7 seat option, seem to
be the new Terrano on caravan sites.... newest has 2.2 td, says 45mpg
in ad in latest caravan club mag, and that was best suv well other than
a rangey beating it twice the price.

another 7s is a ssanyong, rexton i think, says can pull 2800 kg with a 2.0 td !

[96terrano]

So ya not a top gear fan then?:D

:lol:lol I'm not intending to blow mine up, but their again, with it being a LDV 'british Leyland' it'll probably do it itself:jesterbg

[96terrano]

What about a Navara ? Cheapish Tax, lots of parts around and well made. Not bad on fuel too.
Mine was remapped, big intercooler, big exhaust, uprated brakes, body lift and lots of toys. 230hp and 400 torques as Jeremy Clarkson would say. Just under 8 secs to 60mph and nearly 30mpg, depending on how you drive.

Here's mine in the various guises I had it.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/11123.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/Dean33GTST/media/11123.jpg.html)

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/SDC14255-1.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/Dean33GTST/media/SDC14255-1.jpg.html)
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/2011-10-20144530.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/Dean33GTST/media/2011-10-20144530.jpg.html)

Very arousing........

[(RIP) PLANK]

the self destruct navara engine put me off, I have owned a few L200s and 2 ford rangers and I'm not convinced by crew cabs! neither a car or a truck and a turning circle like the QE2!

[96terrano]

What about a Toyota prius? Go down the hybrid-electric route:naughty

[(RIP) PLANK]

are you taking the p####? lol even worse than a camper van! and my T2 has a fair few of them tagging along behind on the end of a tow strap! :augie

[96terrano]

are you taking the p####? lol even worse than a camper van! and my T2 has a fair few of them tagging along behind on the end of a tow strap! :augie

Yup, Dont worry, I wouldn't with the prius in anyone:lol

[Deano400]

the self destruct navara engine put me off, I have owned a few L200s and 2 ford rangers and I'm not convinced by crew cabs! neither a car or a truck and a turning circle like the QE2!

You mean the conrod bolt problems of the D22 not the D40 then. My D40 regularly saw the rev limiter which had been raised 500 rpm in the remap. It's rods remained firmly within the block. :doh

The video....
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/th_Navara7secondsto60mphSaveYouTubecom.jpg (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/Navara7secondsto60mphSaveYouTubecom.mp4)

[TONUP]

When finances allow, I think I'll find myself being drawn toward a Pathfinder, as I like the look of them, and I haven't heard to many horror stories about build quality, or reliability.

I think they would make a good tow car, and look fairly well equipped and comfortable.

For the time being though, I am hoping for another 4 - 5 years service out of the Terrano (78k miles now).

Regards

Alan

[(RIP) PLANK]

You mean the conrod bolt problems of the D22 not the D40 then. My D40 regularly saw the rev limiter which had been raised 500 rpm in the remap. It's rods remained firmly within the block. :doh

The video....
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/th_Navara7secondsto60mphSaveYouTubecom.jpg (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z226/Dean33GTST/Navara7secondsto60mphSaveYouTubecom.mp4)

what's the turning circle like? every other crew-cab I have had it's been like a canal barge, hopeless if you want to reverse a big trailer round a tight corner, and the rear leg room hasn't been too clever either :nenau

[Deano400]

I don't remember the turning circle being a problem though at the end of the day it's not an FX4 taxi, and the rear leg room was massive, more than my Stagea and more than my Patrol and with proper rear seats not jump seats. Definately the best double cab out there for a family of 5 if that's what's needed.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

I don't remember the turning circle being a problem though at the end of the day it's not an FX4 taxi, and the rear leg room was massive, more than my Stagea and more than my Patrol and with proper rear seats not jump seats. Definately the best double cab out there for a family of 5 if that's what's needed.

since running gear is shared with pathfinder then the pf has to be a good bet,
the pf has the same front axles, well IFS arrangement. The Nav has live rear axle
but the Pathy has IRS/Independent. Drove a demo liked the boot, was like the t2
had been extended to incase the spare, but the spare is underneath so much more boot
and 3rd row if fitted fold into floor, zafira style. Know of a few towing big twin axles
merrily.

[mowerman]

I too am thinking of changing the old 4x4..... the terrano is getting a bit worn out now (145K on the clock), aircon broke ages ago (needs a new condenser rad) has the 'gearbox rattle' and generally needs a bit of tlc.... body is superb (no rust) just the rest of it lol....... Question is what to replace it with/

Needs to tow a 1600kg caravan so thats a few small 4x4's out of the equation :nenau. I have between £3-5K to spend, been looking at jeep cherokees but the ones I have seen are a bit sorry for themselves tbh..... fancy a change but not much I can afford :confused::confused:. I will stick the terrano in for an MOT and see what happens this year.. been offered £750 part ex against a cherokee

Anyone got any ideas? I dont need 7 seats anymore..... maybe time to look for something not 4x4 even :doh

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

seeing more twin axles towed by crvs and freelanders but not convinced are
heavy enough, sure they must be well over the recommended 85% which
ok isnt law, but heard some insurance companies are using as a benchmark.

suppose on basis of above x-trails are getting chunkier and in same class.

mind mots are looming for caravans so we'll all be priced out of market, what
then well will take train to airport and spend my money in other countries....

[(RIP) PLANK]

This is why I am leaning to wards a Hyundai Terracan, they are heavier than a T2 (2250k) have more power (162 bhp). A proper hi/low box and are built on a late Shogun chassis. Plus, they are a little more economical! The downside is that they stopped making hem in 2007 so probably only room for one of those before they become outdated. What do you think TTT2?

[mowerman]

X trails are a serious amount of money and mostly all have mega mileage on them :nenau I think they can only pull 2000kg so very close or over the 85% ruling... suppose they are ok and high mileage without general rubbish feedback = ok? Problem is I dont want a truck with mega mileage.... already have one :thumb2

Terracans are interesting, hold their price a bit and a few about for sale but as said limited numbers for sale but they do look a nice bit of kit!

[JimE]

mind mots are looming for caravans so we'll all be priced out of market, what
then well will take train to airport and spend my money in other countries....

I think the caravan mot plan has been scrapped, says as much near the bottom of this article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9758494/EU-backs-down-over-threat-to-classic-cars.html

[(RIP) PLANK]

X trails are a serious amount of money and mostly all have mega mileage on them :nenau I think they can only pull 2000kg so very close or over the 85% ruling... suppose they are ok and high mileage without general rubbish feedback = ok? Problem is I dont want a truck with mega mileage.... already have one :thumb2

Terracans are interesting, hold their price a bit and a few about for sale but as said limited numbers for sale but they do look a nice bit of kit!

did i mention the 2800 kilo towing capacity? It's the same as a T2 and I have two trailers that gross at 2600k so a capacity of 2000k is no good to me :nenau

[AD Ent]

I've always liked these.

1998 R LINCOLN NAVIGATOR 7 SEAT AUTOMATIC GOLD GAS CONVERSION NO RESERVE
71000 MILES AIR CON ALLOY WHEELS ETS MOT NOV 2013 VGC
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-R-LINCOLN-NAVIGATOR-7-SEAT-AUTOMATIC-GOLD-GAS-CONVERSION-NO-RESERVE-/261238364511?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cd305195f

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1998-R-LINCOLN-NAVIGATOR-7-SEAT-AUTOMATIC-GOLD-GAS-CONVERSION-NO-RESERVE-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/CfIAAMXQBg5RsKyy/$T2eC16N,!zUE9s389zFjBRsKyynE-Q~~60_58.JPG

[(RIP) PLANK]

I've always liked these.

1998 R LINCOLN NAVIGATOR 7 SEAT AUTOMATIC GOLD GAS CONVERSION NO RESERVE
71000 MILES AIR CON ALLOY WHEELS ETS MOT NOV 2013 VGC
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-R-LINCOLN-NAVIGATOR-7-SEAT-AUTOMATIC-GOLD-GAS-CONVERSION-NO-RESERVE-/261238364511?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cd305195f

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1998-R-LINCOLN-NAVIGATOR-7-SEAT-AUTOMATIC-GOLD-GAS-CONVERSION-NO-RESERVE-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/CfIAAMXQBg5RsKyy/$T2eC16N,!zUE9s389zFjBRsKyynE-Q~~60_58.JPG

not so much 'ticking boxes' as 'colouring outside the lines' :thumbs

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

terracan good bet mudlifecrisis has one and a big t/a trailer, wondered if any
relation to shogun can see family likelness, cousins? only issue for us is doesnt
have 7 seat option, odd as shogun did/does, massive boot.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

pretty sure new ssanyong rexton is 2800 tug weight, on a 2.0td ! dont know its
output off hand but makers are squeezing more horses out of less cubes.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

existing/going out rexton merc 2.9td with 3200kg tug ! now thats more like it.

[The Patrolman]

I too am thinking of changing the old 4x4..... the terrano is getting a bit worn out now (145K on the clock), aircon broke ages ago (needs a new condenser rad) has the 'gearbox rattle' and generally needs a bit of tlc.... body is superb (no rust) just the rest of it lol....... Question is what to replace it with/

Needs to tow a 1600kg caravan so thats a few small 4x4's out of the equation :nenau. I have between £3-5K to spend, been looking at jeep cherokees but the ones I have seen are a bit sorry for themselves tbh..... fancy a change but not much I can afford :confused::confused:. I will stick the terrano in for an MOT and see what happens this year.. been offered £750 part ex against a cherokee

Anyone got any ideas? I dont need 7 seats anymore..... maybe time to look for something not 4x4 even :doh

Troll Full Stop...:clap

Just paid £1650 for 4.2 PeTroll auto Years mot. But You can put a lot of fuel in for the extra few grands...

[macabethiel]

German mate:doh

Might be German engineering but they are now all built in Austria as are RHD Chrsler 300 C's

[macabethiel]

This is why I am leaning to wards a Hyundai Terracan, they are heavier than a T2 (2250k) have more power (162 bhp). A proper hi/low box and are built on a late Shogun chassis. Plus, they are a little more economical! The downside is that they stopped making hem in 2007 so probably only room for one of those before they become outdated. What do you think TTT2?

I like the sound of a Terracan Auto are they coil spring suspension all round and do they have a cambelt or chain ?

Are they common rail injected ?

Sounds like an ideal replacement for my r3mR ??

Plus the Missus likes the look of them !

[MudLifeCrisis]

Had mine for a year now , can't fault apart from suspension a bit 'slow' but different shocks will cure that when they need replacing. My 05 plate is £280 tax they go up after that.Strong Merc lump good fuel solo and towing (compared to Mav :lol ) big armchair on wheels :-)

Brian

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Terracan

2.9 td and 3.5 petrol, auto and manual

2.9 doesnt list on wiki but another page suggests its a merc unit crdi, common rail?

Kia did a 2.9 crdi, shared korean tech?

same engine in kia sedona the big mpv.

2.9 was td then crdi depends on age.

looks like a belt as google engine and cam belt loads of results...

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

cheers MLC was about to put a call out for you and then we've posted together.

[MudLifeCrisis]

Bigger lump in facelift (square fogs) timing chain not belt dealer told me. Definitely common rail

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Wonder if would get a thread about Nissans on the Hyundai OC?

http://www.4x4overlandtravel.com/t608-hyundai-terracan-frequently-asked-questions

[MudLifeCrisis]

:lol you keep beating me with these links .

[macabethiel]

Had mine for a year now , can't fault apart from suspension a bit 'slow' but different shocks will cure that when they need replacing. My 05 plate is £280 tax they go up after that.Strong Merc lump good fuel solo and towing (compared to Mav :lol ) big armchair on wheels :-)

Brian

If its a Merc engine then it must have chain driven camshaft as Merc do not do belts.

Presumably yours is a later engine ?

Is it coil spring suspension ?

Does it have a centre diff lock as well as switchable 4WD ?

I have read a few posts about fuel pump issues and rear LSD diff issues.

[MudLifeCrisis]

If its a Merc engine then it must have chain driven camshaft as Merc do not do belts.

Presumably yours is a later engine ?

Is it coil spring suspension ?

Does it have a centre diff lock as well as switchable 4WD ?

I have read a few posts about fuel pump issues and rear LSD diff issues.

Yes mine is later engine, chain driven. Suspension set up same as Maverick / Terrano , coils on back torsion bars on front. 2H 4H 4L not sure about centre diff , no switch for it unless it does it itself :lol You can read faults about ever car on the interweb :lol

[MudLifeCrisis]

Pic

[walshie]

I'd been trying to work out what the successor to the T2 could be for a while, Hyundai terrecan and Kia sorento stood out out as most similar to the no frills good value 4x4 capability of the t2, but can I also put forward the shogun Lwb? Prices seem to be coming down now and reliability ratings always seem good.

One thing I have noticed about later 4x4s after 2002 when the car tax rules changed to emissions based, is that for some models which are borderline £225/450 (or whatever the exact figures are now) is that sometimes the autos can be in the top bracket and the manuals in the next one down - worth checking before ruling models out purely on their tax bracket!

The other thing is to definitely consider the annual mileage, if you're doing average miles or above then mpg does count, but 10k or less and the savings become less and less significant. When you factor in the cheaper purchase price of some 'guzzlers' it would take many many years to break even against the pricey 'economical' cars out there.

Case in point, my boss bought a new fiat bravo, 1.6diesel , 30quid a year road tax, and 65mpg he said. But.....it cost a lot to buy new, and was depreciating by more than his monthly payment on it! Whereas me in my trusty T2, bought and paid for paying £240 tax and 35mpg was driving round in 7seat comfort, safety and with a smile on my face, whilst he was still more out of pocket and driving a paper bag!

Apologies for the essay! Overall, my advice, put all the costs including purchase price and annual milage in a single spreadsheet over the planned time to own the car and only look at the bottom line, the results are very surprising!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

spot on walshie, sort of like phrase knowing price of everything but value of nothing.

plus the newer vehicles are more complex, to repair and service, the T2 is a classic,
bullet proof 2.7 etc, why not try to keep 'em rolling, could pick up a late 05/06 MY truck
as a write off and put bits onto an older one. Not suggesting ringing, just renewing
as you go, something landy owners been doing for ever.

[Lazy-Ferret]

How about one of these???

http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junkies/2013/07/2014-nissan-terrano-2-2471544.html

http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/47337/official-nissan-terrano-2014-sketch-released