View Full Version : Will someone just buy me a Terrano....
because I can't make my mind up! I'm worse than my wife with shoes :)
I want a 3.0, manual, SVE , this much is certain.
I'd quite like green or maroon (or whatever colour that is), something that looks good polished (stop throwing stones at me for blaspheming at the back!)
All of a sudden, a few are popping up on autotrader.
choices are:
1. Silver, 66k, 03 plate, dvd in headrests, 12 month MOT, but A/C pipe holed at condensor £3000 , private sale west midlands (4 hr train ride)
2. Silver (again) 64k, 04 plate, 9 months MOT, £3.5k, dealer, chigwell, london (1 hr car drive)
3. Maroon 90k, 54 plate, 4 month MOT :( £4k, dealer, suffolk (2 hr car)
4. Green 85k, 03 plate, 12 month MOT £4k, dealer, peterborough
I'd rather give my money to a private seller, but the AC could easily be £500 to fix
number 2 could be mine today :), 9 month MOT tho, and I can't see the dealer on google maps street view
number 3 doesn't have enough MOT, but is maroon. And I work at a garage. (there are MOT's, and MOT's with a wink)
number 4 is the bestest colour, but right on my limit of spend, and I don't want to p/x my V70, as its too good for that.
My head hurts, I've been up since 6.30 looking and dithering. You wouldn't believe I'm nearly 50.....
Deano400
22-06-2013, 10:30
On the limited info available.
No 1. Because it's got a decent mot, it's could be £2750 for cash offer if you haggle and the mileage seems ok. Aircon is rarely used anyway and you can fix it at your leisure.
The problem is when I pick a new motor I go choose my vehicle spec and budget then everything rests on 3 things; condition, condition and condition.
Any one of those could be broken, rotten or in some way not as described.
If I am considering a vehicle that requires a lot of travel to get to, then I ask the seller to email me pictures of the inside and underside and any particular areas I want. If they don't/can't be arsed then simple, I cross em off my list.
because I can't make my mind up! I'm worse than my wife with shoes :)
I want a 3.0, manual, SVE , this much is certain.
I'd quite like green or maroon (or whatever colour that is), something that looks good polished (stop throwing stones at me for blaspheming at the back!)
All of a sudden, a few are popping up on autotrader.
choices are:
1. Silver, 66k, 03 plate, dvd in headrests, 12 month MOT, but A/C pipe holed at condensor £3000 , private sale west midlands (4 hr train ride)
2. Silver (again) 64k, 04 plate, 9 months MOT, £3.5k, dealer, chigwell, london (1 hr car drive)
3. Maroon 90k, 54 plate, 4 month MOT :( £4k, dealer, suffolk (2 hr car)
4. Green 85k, 03 plate, 12 month MOT £4k, dealer, peterborough
I'd rather give my money to a private seller, but the AC could easily be £500 to fix
number 2 could be mine today :), 9 month MOT tho, and I can't see the dealer on google maps street view
number 3 doesn't have enough MOT, but is maroon. And I work at a garage. (there are MOT's, and MOT's with a wink)
number 4 is the bestest colour, but right on my limit of spend, and I don't want to p/x my V70, as its too good for that.
My head hurts, I've been up since 6.30 looking and dithering. You wouldn't believe I'm nearly 50.....
Another thing to bear in mind with lower mileage terranos is that the speedo cluster is prone to failure so could have been changed ask for evidence of mileage check mots and service stamps
Deano400
22-06-2013, 10:40
If this is the silver one. It looks pretty good and the seller has good feedback.
New tyres but sounds like needs a couple of bits doing so I'm betting that it could be easy to haggle. Looks like from the feedback he had a caravan so it's been used for towing, whether that bothers you or not...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Terrano-3-0-Di-Turbo-SPORT-/290931441967?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43bcdd812f
Another thing to bear in mind with lower mileage terranos is that the speedo cluster is prone to failure so could have been changed ask for evidence of mileage check mots and service stamps
yup - the good thing about the new MOT certificate is the mileages of the previous MOTs are on there.
with number one, it could be the short hp pipe, or a very long twisty one that goes round the back of the block..... pics requested :)
You could see about 3 or 4 in a good day, then with luck you would have found the right one, a quick phone later call buys it.
I assume you have got some good pics, the inportant thing on these trucks is rust in the sills, chassis, front outer wings and inner wings.
Easy to spot just a quick look, then you can look at mechanicals, service history, tell tell signs of accident damage like paint overspray on trim panels.
Take a blanket and slide under neath, check for oil leaks etc, rock the car side to side, any clunks will be either the ARB links or upper or lowerball joints, cheap to replace BUT a good negotiating starting point.
If a dealer, you could insist on a Free MOT and service prior to collection.
How exciting...
Good luck,
best regards,
Rustic
I'd get a 2.7 tbh
Run veg, more reliable, easier/cheaper to fix
You could see about 3 or 4 in a good day, then with luck you would have found the right one, a quick phone later call buys it.
I assume you have got some good pics, the inportant thing on these trucks is rust in the sills, chassis, front outer wings and inner wings.
Easy to spot just a quick look, then you can look at mechanicals, service history, tell tell signs of accident damage like paint overspray on trim panels.
Take a blanket and slide under neath, check for oil leaks etc, rock the car side to side, any clunks will be either the ARB links or upper or lowerball joints, cheap to replace BUT a good negotiating starting point.
If a dealer, you could insist on a Free MOT and service prior to collection.
How exciting...
Good luck,
best regards,
Rustic
I would really hope not to see rust on a 9 year old car.... but good point.
I'd get a 2.7 tbh
Run veg, more reliable, easier/cheaper to fix
Ah, the 2.7 vs 3.0 scenario :D I'm choosing a 3.0 for the better economy, and power. Even though I won't be towing anything heavy, I think the 2.7 just wouldn't have the oomph I'm used to with the V70, and I absolutely have to keep the next car at least 3 years, as my wife is fed up of me changing cars every year :)
Isn't the 3.0 same as the Patrol, and a proven unit?
I feel a song coming on to the tune of I want someone to buy me a pony...:doh
I want someone to buy me a ter-anno..
clunk click, clunk click, clunk click, clunk. ( sound of worn ARB drop links)
Not too old and not too rus-ty.. ( check sills and wings)
clunk click, clunk click, clunk click, clunk
Not too sure.. of the col-our. ( Maroon, green or silver)
clunk click, clunk click, clunk click, clunk.
two point seven or three li- tre..
clunk click, clunk click, clunk click, clunk...
...
Sorry couldn't help it,
now try and get that tune out of your head...:doh
Good luck,
Rustic
I would really hope not to see rust on a 9 year old car.... but good point.
Ah, the 2.7 vs 3.0 scenario :D I'm choosing a 3.0 for the better economy, and power. Even though I won't be towing anything heavy, I think the 2.7 just wouldn't have the oomph I'm used to with the V70, and I absolutely have to keep the next car at least 3 years, as my wife is fed up of me changing cars every year :)
Isn't the 3.0 same as the Patrol, and a proven unit?
You will be lucky to find a 9 year old terrano without rust issues ive never seen one:doh
I would really hope not to see rust on a 9 year old car.... but good point.
Ah, the 2.7 vs 3.0 scenario :D I'm choosing a 3.0 for the better economy, and power. Even though I won't be towing anything heavy, I think the 2.7 just wouldn't have the oomph I'm used to with the V70, and I absolutely have to keep the next car at least 3 years, as my wife is fed up of me changing cars every year :)
Isn't the 3.0 same as the Patrol, and a proven unit?
I've seen some very rotten late terranos mate, when Renault took over quality went out the window
The 3.0 is the same as the patrol and nothing but trouble. After 04 the overheating/overfuelling issues were supposedly sorted but there are still instances all over the net
Power/torque of the 2.7 is ample mate be under no miss conceptions especially once egr is removed and a freeflowing air filter is fitted
And running 95% veg at £1 a litre means no other proper 4x4 will come close to a Terrano 2.7 on miles per £
exosteve
22-06-2013, 11:19
mine 12 year old. no rust:D or at least ive yet to find it:nenau
im with stinka 2.7 all the way 3ltr parts are a lot more expencive
I've seen some very rotten late terranos mate, when Renault took over quality went out the window
The 3.0 is the same as the patrol and nothing but trouble. After 04 the overheating/overfuelling issues were supposedly sorted but there are still instances all over the net
Power/torque of the 2.7 is ample mate be under no miss conceptions especially once egr is removed and a freeflowing air filter is fitted
And running 95% veg at £1 a litre means no other proper 4x4 will come close to a Terrano 2.7 on miles per £
when did the french get involved? nothing but trouble, the french.... :)
when did the french get involved? nothing but trouble, the french.... :)
I think it was 2000 or 2001
Mine is a Renault variant, but luckily it's rot free as its had a very easy life prior to me
Things like poor under seal, thinner props shafts with no grease nipples, weaker/cheaper c200 rear axle, many money saving changes, which means post 2000 terranos are no where near as robust as earlier ones.
I don't know they didn't give a certain German corporal much trouble.
The E-Bay advert.Describes the engine has having a timing chain.I could be wrong but i thought that instead of a chain it is gear driven.Anyone...
Deano400
22-06-2013, 19:47
If I was in the market for a Terrano I'd buy the cleanest 2.7 I could find and rustproof it to death with dinitrol.
I have worked on all manner of vehicles and one thing is certain, common rail is not the best. All my mechanic friends would agree with that too. I don't know exactly why but modern engines are just not as reliable as the last generation of injector pump equipped engines, and I'm not jus talking about Nissans here.
Car forums are full of people referencing common rail sensor faults, limp modes and head gasket problems, that's not to say that there aren't hundreds of thousands of happy problem free people. I suspect that computer aided design has lead to engines being built with the minimum of material and squeezing the maximum performance both in terms of combined power and economy. Injectors and high pressure pumps are highly stressed and when they fail cost a fortune to repair.
The technology is out there to make reliable stuff but cost is such an issue these days and I suspect motor manufacturers rely heavily on parts and servicing since they are trying to claw back manufacturing and design costs. We all know that there are some older engines that can and do enjoy incredible longevity, but they were no doubt designed by men using experience and slide rules/pocket calculators so they were over engineered. Of course they wouldn't pass modern emissions requirements because those very requirements have driven ever more complicated and expensive solutions to reducing what comes out of the exhaust and how much goes into the tank.
Anyway, it's clear that like me, many people here favour the reliability and cost effectiveness of older engines, those things may not be any kind of issue for you. If you really want a 3 litre, then get one, the choice is yours and I can see why you prefer one, you're not on your own and at the end of the day everything that can go wrong is bolt on parts, just expensive bolt on parts. I'm certain that there will be a nice Terrano out there somewhere for you.
rayf3262
22-06-2013, 19:59
If I was in the market for a Terrano I'd buy the cleanest 2.7 I could find and rustproof it to death with dinitrol.
I have worked on all manner of vehicles and one thing is certain, common rail is not the best. All my mechanic friends would agree with that too. I don't know exactly why but modern engines are just not as reliable as the last generation of injector pump equipped engines, and I'm not jus talking about Nissans here.
Car forums are full of people referencing common rail sensor faults, limp modes and head gasket problems, that's not to say that there aren't hundreds of thousands of happy problem free people. I suspect that computer aided design has lead to engines being built with the minimum of material and squeezing the maximum performance both in terms of combined power and economy. Injectors and high pressure pumps are highly stressed and when they fail cost a fortune to repair.
The technology is out there to make reliable stuff but cost is such an issue these days and I suspect motor manufacturers rely heavily on parts and servicing since they are trying to claw back manufacturing and design costs. We all know that there are some older engines that can and do enjoy incredible longevity, but they were no doubt designed by men using experience and slide rules/pocket calculators so they were over engineered. Of course they wouldn't pass modern emissions requirements because those very requirements have driven ever more complicated and expensive solutions to reducing what comes out of the exhaust and how much goes into the tank.
Anyway, it's clear that like me, many people here favour the reliability and cost effectiveness of older engines, those things may not be any kind of issue for you. If you really want a 3 litre, then get one, the choice is yours and I can see why you prefer one, you're not on your own and at the end of the day everything that can go wrong is bolt on parts, just expensive bolt on parts. I'm certain that there will be a nice Terrano out there somewhere for you.
My 2002 ZD30 certainly is not common rail. It has a VP44 IP.
Deano400
22-06-2013, 20:11
My 2002 ZD30 certainly is not common rail. It has a VP44 IP.
That's great, maybe the common rails were only in the Patrols.
Cheers Deano - some very good points there.
I work in the car service industry, but at the customer facing end, but engineering background, so spanners hold no fear for me. Repairs that are beyond my confidence can be entrusted to the technicians (as they are now called) where I work. Having said that, I'm much happier when I have a roll of duct tape and a hammer to repair my cars :) Oh yes, I've owned Landrovers before.....
The internet is full of car forums, and all of them have horror stories to tell about particular derivatives of car, having particular problems. I shudder at work when a customer says he's seen on the internet that 'it's a common problem'. That doesn't make the customer wrong tho..... :rolleyes:
Manufacturers definitely rely on making money back from parts, as parts that aren't often changed, cost the earth, however its the dealer trying to maximise service costs for the customer, cos thats where the profit is. We don't want breakdowns, we want services, with extras such as brakes and tyres. Thats the gravy.
Back to the point though, I really appreciate the helpful replies from everyone on here, and I do consider every opinion given. My problem is I am impatient. I want it NOW! Or possibly sooner.
3 grand and a V70 to sell are burning a hole in my pocket.... I'll probably change my mind once or twice more before I buy something :)
So, all you helpful people, please don't think I am ungrateful, I appreciate all the help, and information, and hope to contribute more to the forum as I get to know whichever Terrano I buy....
I am glad i bought my 2.7tdi.This is my 1st terry.And after doing research and chatting with some mates and a family member in the know.I was informed the this engine is almost bullet proof.
But as with any motor,you can get a wrong un.But like you have said.With money in pocket (Burning a hole in ya pocket)and a motor to sell.Dont be rash.It is a buyers market at the moment.
I am on the look out for a second motor(Undecided as yet)
Just buy this mate
http://bit.ly/19smMUY
Barrbeast
23-06-2013, 12:49
That's great, maybe the common rails were only in the Patrols.
My 2004 Troll is definitely DI as well, as far as I know CRD versions of the ZD30 were from 2007 onwards :)
Just buy this mate
http://bit.ly/19smMUY
thats nice :) it would appear he has some heat resistant red paint, looking at the brakes :)
that was advertised a week or two ago - but the ad has disappeared.....
firebobby
24-06-2013, 20:56
My 05 is much cleaner than my old 01 underneath, as for 2.7 v 3.0, had both and prefer the 3.0.
I didn't have issues with my 2.7 engine, but there are plenty of people on here who have and are suffering issues with them.
Timing gears and chains are much better than rubber belts
It's up to you what you buy, I know what I would go for
Why don't you take a test drive in one of each and get a feel for each engine? Any respectable dealer should let you out in a vehicle for 20mins.
My 05 is much cleaner than my old 01 underneath, as for 2.7 v 3.0, had both and prefer the 3.0.
I didn't have issues with my 2.7 engine, but there are plenty of people on here who have and are suffering issues with them.
Timing gears and chains are much better than rubber belts
It's up to you what you buy, I know what I would go for
It seems there are dedicated 2.7 people and 3.0 people. I'm driven towards the 3 because of the V70 power I have now. Although I've had slow landrovers before too, so could cope with a 2.7, as they would seem quick in comparison :)
Why don't you take a test drive in one of each and get a feel for each engine? Any respectable dealer should let you out in a vehicle for 20mins.
There's a plan, right there :)
and then pops up choice number 5.... :)
blue ( wifey likey), 81k, 2003, ticks the boxes and 1.5 hours away :)
if he's still got it at the weekend, I'lll be on my way....
firebobby
27-06-2013, 19:39
It seems there are dedicated 2.7 people and 3.0 people. I'm driven towards the 3 because of the V70 power I have now. Although I've had slow landrovers before too, so could cope with a 2.7, as they would seem quick in comparison :)
Like I said, I had a 2.7 for 7 years and liked it a lot, had no major problems with it, although it was getting bad underneath with rust.
I like the Terrano as a tow vehicle and general car.I just liked the idea of better MPG and more grunt with my van in tow, oh, and did I mention how easy it is to change the oil filter :augie
and then pops up choice number 5.... :)
blue ( wifey likey), 81k, 2003, ticks the boxes and 1.5 hours away :)
if he's still got it at the weekend, I'lll be on my way....
How much?
asking 2750, but now he has someone going to look before I get there :(
puddle hoppers inc.
28-06-2013, 18:53
ive got an 0'3 2.7, bought it on 72k miles, one previous owner and a huge wad of service history, it seems a good truck, tows well, and apart from the cv gators i can say its been no trouble at all. no rust issues whatso ever or i wouldnt have bought it. £2750 seems a good price if its a good car, dont be scared to lift carpets and mats and have a good feel, as i reckon leaky cars not being fixed is possibly more to blame than the metal used(french or not). the air con is important with all the glass space, i use mine most days when the sun is out, so about 3 times a month lol! theres cheaper cars out there, i know, i looked at them, :eek: the 6th and 7th seats really are just impractical to use daily, just for emegencies i would imagine? good luck with your search!
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