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xdonald
27-04-2013, 14:12
Hi,

I live in Nairobi, recently bought a Terrano II 2.7 (92KW, YOM 2003) here. Seems like a good car, is a bit slow though. Reason may be that the previous owner replaced the original cylinderhead with one used in the Nissan minibuses around here, which is a non-turbo. Found out about that too late. Although it seems to be working so far, I just don't like the idea. So my first task on the car is to find a good cylinderhead replacement (complete with valves, cam shaft etc.) either in Kenya or in the UK. Any help is highly appreciated.

Apart from that: Hakuna Matata.

Michael

zippy656
27-04-2013, 14:37
Hi, welcome

spinna
27-04-2013, 19:06
Hi and welcome

Fez_uk
27-04-2013, 19:07
Welcome to the forum

briggie
27-04-2013, 19:30
kuwakaribisha kwa jukwaa bora kwenye wavu

solarman216
27-04-2013, 19:46
Welcome mate, not sure if there is any difference tween the two heads, but I am sure makeitfit, or cncfabs will be able tosay, I am more petrol man, Rick

xdonald
02-05-2013, 04:21
Thanks for the warm welcome.
@briggie: Kiswahili yako ni nzuri kabisa. Wewe ni wa Kenya?

stinka
02-05-2013, 06:02
Welcome mate, not sure if there is any difference tween the two heads, but I am sure makeitfit, or cncfabs will be able tosay, I am more petrol man, Rick

As I understand it they are the same as the compression ratios are the same for the non turbo and turbo

I'd be looking else where, check fault codes, more likely the maf
Does it have a turbo fitted ?

briggie
02-05-2013, 07:28
im nchini kenya, im nchini Uingereza, i kutumika google kutafsiri kwa kuwakaribisha na kufanya kujisikia nyumbani

xdonald
02-05-2013, 08:00
@stinka: Thanks, that would be good news, a cylinderhead is quite costly. Thing is that one connnector to the cylinderhead is loose because there is no plug on the head's side. I think it is the sensor to manage the fuel mix during engine warm-up. The engine does lots of Diesel-rattling when cold. Yes, it has a turbo. What is "maf"?
@biggie: :-) Sasa ninaelewa. Ninajarobu kujinfunza Kiswahili kwa mwaka moja. Umetumia baadhi ya maneno ambayo sikujua. Ninataka kubadili Kiingereza sasa?

briggie
02-05-2013, 08:03
welcome Michael ..... pay ya tenner and enjoy the privilidges of full membership :naughty

rustic
02-05-2013, 08:23
im nchini kenya, im nchini Uingereza, i kutumika google kutafsiri kwa kuwakaribisha na kufanya kujisikia nyumbani

Pete's key board is playing up again...:doh:doh:doh


:lol:lol:lol

stinka
02-05-2013, 08:37
@stinka: Thanks, that would be good news, a cylinderhead is quite costly. Thing is that one connnector to the cylinderhead is loose because there is no plug on the head's side. I think it is the sensor to manage the fuel mix during engine warm-up. The engine does lots of Diesel-rattling when cold. Yes, it has a turbo. What is "maf"?


Maf is the mass air flow sensor

Post some pics of the engine bay, point out the wire

A close up of each 1/4 of the bay would be cool, well see if we can see anything obvious

briggie
02-05-2013, 09:23
Pete's key board is playing up again...:doh:doh:doh


:lol:lol:lol

its Swahili :naughty

Dorn1964
02-05-2013, 09:29
kuwakaribisha kwa jukwaa bora kwenye wavu

Well I never, " Welcome to the best forum on the net" Briggie, you been on Google.. :augie

Dynamics
02-05-2013, 22:07
Hello and welcome.

xdonald
09-05-2013, 14:41
Just paid my membership fee. Feels like getting a driver's license. I tried to take a few pictures of the cylinderhead in question, but it is quite well hidden. Don't know if any of you guys can make something of it. It would also help to learn what this disconnected plug is for. Anyone? By the way: Is it still ok to continue with this subject here or should I move it to he tech-thread?

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano/Terrano_Engine_01.jpg

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano/Terrano_Engine_02.jpg

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano/Terrano_Engine_03.jpg

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano/Terrano_Engine_04.jpg

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano/Terrano_Engine_05.jpg

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano/Terrano_Engine_07.jpg

CliveG
09-05-2013, 16:20
Hi,

I live in Nairobi, recently bought a Terrano II 2.7 (92KW, YOM 2003) here. Seems like a good car, is a bit slow though. Reason may be that the previous owner replaced the original cylinderhead with one used in the Nissan minibuses around here, which is a non-turbo. Found out about that too late. Although it seems to be working so far, I just don't like the idea. So my first task on the car is to find a good cylinderhead replacement (complete with valves, cam shaft etc.) either in Kenya or in the UK. Any help is highly appreciated.

Apart from that: Hakuna Matata.

Michael

Greetings from a new member in France.

96terrano
09-05-2013, 16:55
greetings from the heart of Scotland:D

that cylinder head looks like a normal Terrano one:thumb2

briggie
09-05-2013, 17:01
the simplest solution to your " plug problem " is to look within reach of it for a socket it could fit in ......... but then I know nuffin

Barrbeast
09-05-2013, 17:37
Welcome from the Scottish East!

Can't help you with the Terrano I'm afraid as I'm a Troll man but I know my 3.0TD Troll is definitely less sprightly than my previous (and 9 years older) 2.8TD Shogun :nenau ...

... she does weigh around 500kg more though and the fact I have no doubt she could pull a house down if need be more than makes up for it! :lol

Lazy-Ferret
09-05-2013, 18:50
Hi and welcome..

What little of the cylinder head that you can see, looks the same as mine.

Not sure if this helps with your connector...

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/Lazy-Ferret/Terrano/dipstick.jpg

I will try and get some better pictures later.

melissachels
09-05-2013, 18:55
hi & welcome again from scotland tho the west this time :thumb2

Lazy-Ferret
09-05-2013, 19:05
Not sure what it does, but it looks like the plug you have disconnected should connect to a pair of wires that go to number one injector.

Lazy-Ferret
09-05-2013, 21:56
This is the best I could get...

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/Lazy-Ferret/Terrano/20130509_190130_zpsc4509c56.jpg (http://s316.photobucket.com/user/Lazy-Ferret/media/Terrano/20130509_190130_zpsc4509c56.jpg.html)

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/Lazy-Ferret/Terrano/20130509_190156_zpsbf48bed6.jpg (http://s316.photobucket.com/user/Lazy-Ferret/media/Terrano/20130509_190156_zpsbf48bed6.jpg.html)

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/Lazy-Ferret/Terrano/20130509_190148_zps2d516368.jpg (http://s316.photobucket.com/user/Lazy-Ferret/media/Terrano/20130509_190148_zps2d516368.jpg.html)

Hope it helps.

96terrano
09-05-2013, 22:28
The tdi engine bays are packed compared to the TD :eek:

xdonald
20-05-2013, 09:46
Hi,

everybody, thanks for the welcomes!

Lazy-Ferret: Thanks for your pics. I tried to put your and mine together to compare. As it seems, the plug I don't know where to put belongs to that socket holder. In my case the countering socket is missing. Does anyone know where it should come from and what it does?

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/terrano-comparison.jpg

Silly questions, sorry, but there is only one Nissan workshop in Kenya and they have really no idea what they're doing.

Thanks,

Michael

By the way: had a great ride yesterday to one of the salt lakes in Kenya called Lake Magadi (here's a google maps link (http://goo.gl/maps/2Ay4I)). Shot a picture for you Terrano connaisseurs. Raining season is over, parts of the lake have fallen dry, that's where the road is now.

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/lake-magadi2.jpg

Lazy-Ferret
20-05-2013, 13:25
What a great picture...:bow

That is the socket I mentioned above, it has 2 wires that run from it, to the number 1 injector, but I have no idea what it is for, as from what I was told, the injectors are not electrically controlled, so all I can assume is it is a sensor of some sort.

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Just looked in the manual, and it is called a "Needle Lift Sensor" and is most likely your issue, as it controls how the pump delivers the fuel... Have a look on page 380 here..

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/ec.pdf

Basically it is a special injector, and I guess more expensive one than the other 3, as it can only be repaired by Bosch, rather then any diesel specialist like the other 3.

xdonald
21-05-2013, 13:27
Thanks, that helped. I searched a while to find a good picture of an injector with the needle lift sensor, found one, compared it with the loose plug and am pretty sure now, this could be the problem. If the Terrano's engine control needs to know about the status of the injector needle but doesn't, the injection may come at the wrong time and the engine doesn't develop its full power. Of course, if they really put another cylinderhead in this car, the appropriate injector may not fit in, but at least I have a solid theory now.

http://www.hasenpusch.com/temp/needle-lift-sensor.jpg