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zippy656
21-03-2013, 22:01
Ok so why have them

Your views please

zippy656
27-03-2013, 07:54
What,
no one knows...


who HAS them then ??


any one?

stinka
27-03-2013, 08:03
You need them if u have larger tyres of 31" diameter or bigger, as on full lock the tyre wall will catch on the front end and if u take your anti roll bar off the rear, then larger tyres will catch the inside of the wheel arch on articulation

stinka
27-03-2013, 08:04
Better option tho is -25 offset rims, which I have ;)

Lazy-Ferret
27-03-2013, 10:33
Never used them.

Better option tho is -25 offset rims, which I have ;)

I can't get my head around the physics here, I think that mean the wheel is centred over the bearings better as well?

I was told to avoid spacers on any heavy car, as they cause much higher wheel bearing wear, as they basically make the wheel act as a lever on the bearings, by moving the load from being in the centre of the 2 wheel bearings, to a twisting action, putting an up load on the front bearing, and down load on the rear, which is then made worse by bumps etc.

In my mind, by using off set wheels that should no longer be the case... I think:bow:doh

Fez_uk
27-03-2013, 10:44
Spacers act exactly the same as offset wheels in terms of extra strain on the parts, How much is debatable.

Lazy-Ferret
27-03-2013, 10:53
Spacers act exactly the same as offset wheels in terms of extra strain on the parts, How much is debatable.

Bummer... My thinking was, that as the actual point of mounting with offset wheels was now back by the hub rather than an inch in front of it, it would stop that.

So basically, the only advantage is your wheel studs are shorter, so less torque on them, and no fiddly spacer to risk the mechanic loosing when he fits new tyres.

Fez_uk
27-03-2013, 11:04
So basically, the only advantage is your wheel studs are shorter, so less torque on them, and no fiddly spacer to risk the mechanic loosing when he fits new tyres.

Most decent spacers bolt to the car, then you have another set of bolts comming out of the spacer that bolt to the wheel. But yes basicly it's better to have a offset wheel than spacers in my opinion. As you can only check if the spacers are still tight by removing the wheel.

TONUP
27-03-2013, 11:08
With so much talk about insurance companies and their constant desire to deny liabilty, I wonder if any modification, not approved by the manafacturer of the vehicle, might impact on your level of cover.

Especially on as an important component as that which holds the wheels on?

Regards

Alan

Lazy-Ferret
27-03-2013, 11:27
With so much talk about insurance companies and their constant desire to deny liabilty, I wonder if any modification, not approved by the manafacturer of the vehicle, might impact on your level of cover.

Especially on as an important component as that which holds the wheels on?

Regards

Alan

I agree, it would be an easy blame for them, where as the offset on the wheels, in all honesty is probably never going to be even noticed.

In the past, when I talked to my insurance company about changing the wheels, old steels to newer steels, they said that counted as maintenance, like fitting new tyres, or replacing a rotten panel and was not declarable unless I changed from steel to alloys, or changed the panel to one that changed the shape of the car, as that may make the car more desirable to a thief. So I would have thought that changing alloys to steel with an offset should technically lower your premium anyway... if only..:lol

Fez_uk
27-03-2013, 11:45
With so much talk about insurance companies and their constant desire to deny liabilty, I wonder if any modification, not approved by the manafacturer of the vehicle, might impact on your level of cover.

Especially on as an important component as that which holds the wheels on?

Regards

Alan

hence why if your going to all that trouble of offsetting your wheels you should have modded 4x4 insurance. :thumbs