my Terrano camper conversion

[96terrano]

yup, im doing this to my Terrano, since the entire interior is out except the dash and door cards, fitting 12v fridge, gas cooker, insulation behind the roof & side panels etc, going all out camper, going to build a wood frame that fits in then the back seats are down making the entire load area flat for a mattress to fit, will use it for camping and going to music/rock festivals etc, already got a lot of wiring fitted, also ran about 15 wires in the roof for lights, TV aerial etc, pics will be up later



Toby is being transformed into a luxury, modern expedition vehicle, as dumb as it sounds, I'm going to have a gas stove, electric heater, fridge, and whatever else I need to comfortably live in him lol. But there is also the in car entertainment side too, lights, Television, radio and a few other things going in.

I'm basicallally doing a custom interior that'll be

robust,
functional
modern
technological
Luxury
Unique

Toby will have everything needed for living and in comfortably since I love camping.

I'll be able to put all the supplys and things needed for traveling on the roof rack so the living area won't be filled up in the back. The great thing is, even after all these mods, he will still be able to be used as a 7 seater people carrier.

[spiderpig37]

Not a lot of head room unless you are vertically challenged:nenau

[stinka]

You need to insulate too

And blinds in windows

[rustic]

Gas is carried in camper vans, but there must be some regulations on how it is installed and whether labels are required on the back.

You could fit warm air heating too, we have the Propex gas heater on the boat, 1.6 kw.. brilliant.

[rustic]

You need to insulate too
And blinds in windows

Some people use the silvered bubble wrap on walls and behind roof linings on boats, I am going to do the same on ours, and also behind the carpet that is stuck to the hull.:thumbs

Windows will loose most, so consider something that gives you privacy and thermal insulation.

Be aware you will need some fixed ventilation too.

sounds a great idea.:thumbs:thumbs

If you have a tow bar, you could fit a "bumper dumper" like Clarkson when he went to the Antarctic in Top Gear.

[kwondo]

sounds great, looking forward to seeing the photos, good luck.

[96terrano]

Thanks guys, I'm working on the wiring just now, yes rustic, Ive got some insulation:D

[spiderpig37]

Will you not need to put a 12v split charge system in to power all your extras
12 engal fridges are good i find the one ring gas cookers with the cartridges are ample for cooking on and pack away neatly
Why not go for a roof tent
Also be mindfull how your mods are going to impact on your insurance
We too like the camping lark me missis four kids and two labradores where like the:eek: clampits rolling up

[96terrano]

Will you not need to put a 12v split charge system in to power all your extras
12 engal fridges are good i find the one ring gas cookers with the cartridges are ample for cooking on and pack away neatly
Why not go for a roof tent
Also be mindfull how your mods are going to impact on your insurance
We too like the camping lark me missis four kids and two labradores where like the:eek: clampits rolling up

yes, i love camping too:D:D roof tent is too cold, i think i might do a split charge if i put i lot of high amp things in, most of my lighting for instance is LED and florescent

[zippy656]

Pics please

[R1cho]

if you do a proper camper conversion you may get cheaper insurance too :thumbs

[spiderpig37]

yes, i love camping too:D:D roof tent is too cold, i think i might do a split charge if i put i lot of high amp things in, most of my lighting for instance is LED and florescent

Too cold bahhh get a decent sleeping bag as the saying goes theres no such thing as bad weather just bad choice of clothing
Layering is the key as my grandad used to say lad you can always take a layer off

[baker1988]

If you enjoy something that much whats a bit of cold lol i spend 3 days at a time in my fishing bivvy even in the snow as said before layers are the key :)

[kwondo]

Sorry to cold ( or should that be old) for camping, much prefer an insulated caravan,

[96terrano]

Pics please

Ohh yes, there will be plenty tonight

Just been been into the motor factors, wickes etc buying parts:D got most of the wiring done now

[96terrano]

Ok, I'll say where I am just now, basically the entire interior is out, only door cards and dash are still in, I'm putting in wireing and the insulation, also, crammin every hole with cavity wax. Then after everything is finished behind the scenes, I'll be putting Velcroing in black shagpile carpet putting the new roof lining in then adding the luxuries, I'll also be removing the dash for wiring, switches, and putting in the new matrix thats been sitting on me wardrobe for too long:lol I'll put pics up when I get hone

[96terrano]

if you do a proper camper conversion you may get cheaper insurance too :thumbs

How?

[rustic]

i find the one ring gas cookers with the cartridges are ample for cooking on and pack away neatly


AVOID these lethal devices, the gas cylinder can leak, and you end up with a fire ball. Unless of course you want to claim a total loss on your insurance.:doh

[R1cho]

How?

http://www.shieldtotalinsurance.co.uk/self-build-motorhome-insurance

[zippy656]

AVOID these lethal devices, the gas cylinder can leak, and you end up with a fire ball. Unless of course you want to claim a total loss on your insurance.:doh
Should be in a locker with air vents top and bottom

NO wires in or through it what so ever



Iz be a caravan gas man :doh

[spiderpig37]

AVOID these lethal devices, the gas cylinder can leak, and you end up with a fire ball. Unless of course you want to claim a total loss on your insurance.:doh

Never had a problem with them always remove the cartridge after use
Do most of our cooking on a cadac got the scottle attatchment cooks a mean curry

[zippy656]

Dont forget you could mount things on the back door

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ3-u-X1p5Ul-IhAKEvXJfYH9-N6muUUBx_KKAUjXaVHmKyVf-KQ

[spiderpig37]

Dont forget you could mount things on the back door

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ3-u-X1p5Ul-IhAKEvXJfYH9-N6muUUBx_KKAUjXaVHmKyVf-KQ

Had a discovery took the back door panel out made a ali insert with a drop down table that held a two ring stove park up open door kettle on nice cuppa had side and back cannopys that came off of roof rack
List is endless you can do with a bi of imagination

[makeitfit]

I use the little one burner throw away cartridge gas hob in a box things on the boat too. Boat insurance with gas installed was bonkas so we binned it and just use the little hob now. Just always dissengage the cartridge every time is all :thumbs Use it when we to sailing comps too, bloody ace :D

[96terrano]

Piccie time !!:d

scroll down until you see pics of the floor pan, from their is where the new pics are :D

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.560021394025285.141619.100000522887755&type=1&l=2aacfe0bd6

[makeitfit]

Why is there a gate on your roof ? :augie

[96terrano]

Why is there a gate on your roof ? :augie

-_-

[rustic]

Why is there a gate on your roof ? :augie

In case anybody takes offence ( a fence) against him....:lol:lol:lol

But he could be unhinged.:lol

[96terrano]

In case anybody takes offence ( a fence) against him....:lol:lol:lol

But he could be unhinged.:lol

bugger off, i like me fence:D

[96terrano]

ive also documented my work in videos that ill upload to you tube when a go to bed, so should be up on the tube by morning:thumb2

[rustic]

Ryan,
why are you watering the interior? :augie

How do you intend to repair those rust holes?


Will you weld plates in?

What about the ones where the rear seat corners drop down, they look quite minor compared the bigger holes?

Ryan... you are so enthusiastic, especially this weather, when people like me would rather be inside.:thumbs:thumbs

[spiderpig37]

Why is there a gate on your roof ? :augie

Its that scotish style of parking slide it in and claim owt that sticks to it
Jeez six 12 hr nights 3hrs kip this morning few stellas awaiting a chinky whoo im flying
Laters

[96terrano]

Its that scotish style of parking slide it in and claim owt that sticks to it


pretty much spot on their:thumb2:lol:lol

[96terrano]

Ryan,
why are you watering the interior? :augie

How do you intend to repair those rust holes?


Will you weld plates in?

What about the ones where the rear seat corners drop down, they look quite minor compared the bigger holes?

Ryan... you are so enthusiastic, especially this weather, when people like me would rather be inside.:thumbs:thumbs

good questions glad you asked:D

the rust is getting cut out and plates welded over. then rust protected

metal work was being disinfected with industrial strength chemicals that'll take skin off:eek: i shouldn't of been able to get them, but dad gets them through work:augie they needed watered down so floor isnt damaged by them, also helps with cleaning, i dried it out with a industrial heat gun i borrowed

rear seats corners will be plated too 'probably'


yes im very enthusiastic about this project as i love working on my truck:D i was working on it until 11:00PM last night, if you have a fan heater and a good light inside, its fine:thumb2

[macabethiel]

Thanks guys, I'm working on the wiring just now, yes rustic, Ive got some insulation:D

Not sure what insulation you intend to use but Celotex do an insulation that is 25 mm thick and is not only fireproof but has incredibly good insulation properties (A plus rated). I used it on the inside of my conservatory roof and it keeps it cool in summer and warm in winter.

[96terrano]

Not sure what insulation you intend to use but Celotex do an insulation that is 25 mm thick and is not only fireproof but has incredibly good insulation properties (A plus rated). I used it on the inside of my conservatory roof and it keeps it cool in summer and warm in winter.

Have you got a link for it? The stuff I've ordered is more sound deadining if anything, user. Some celotex in wickes but it was about 2 inch thick, also about £30:eek: and the smallest size was about 3 by 5 meters

[96terrano]

started putting in silver insulation

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[96terrano]

free-view TV Coax and socket all installed, i have fitted it in behind the pasenger rear brake light so its discreet, when the aerial is plugged in, all you have to do is remove the little access panel....nice and discreet :thumb2

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[96terrano]

the Coax aerial wire runs along the roof with my other wires

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[96terrano]

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[96terrano]

an aerial plugs in easily

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[96terrano]

the free-view receiver will be either in or under the glove box

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[Lincs Mav]

Very intresting project lokking forward to the outcome of it..

Cheers Gav

[96terrano]

Very intresting project lokking forward to the outcome of it..

Cheers Gav

thanks, yeah, i'll keep updating this thread with photos of the progression :thumb2

[96terrano]

next job is to finish the sound deadening and insulation, should arrive tomorrow

[stinka]

That 'insulation' looks like gaffer tape to me :lol

[96terrano]

aye, my mum actually said that, it's not tho:lol:lol

[jims-terrano]

Well done intersting to see the results. I've slept in mine but you need loads of ventilation for the nights whilst you are sleeping.

Does an aerial plug into behind the rear brake light. What's the Freeview setup?

Did you ever fit your second battery?

[96terrano]

Well done intersting to see the results. I've slept in mine but you need loads of ventilation for the nights whilst you are sleeping.

Does an aerial plug ind the rear brake light. What's the Freeview setup?

Did you ever fit your second battery?

Yes, a external aerial will plug in behind the rear tail light, the free veiw box will plug into the radio and will live under the dash, as The radio has a built in monitor and a AV input. Will need to get a 12 volt free veiw box or somehow convert one that runs on 240 v so it'll work on 12.

[darryl]

im probably spelling this wrong but is the insulation called trioso.its rafter insulation good properties to that stuff but a nightmare to cut:thumb2

[96terrano]

im probably spelling this wrong but is the insulation called trioso.its rafter insulation good properties to that stuff but a nightmare to cut:thumb2

What? The stuff I'm useing?

[darryl]

What? The stuff I'm useing?

yes the insulation your useing

[96terrano]

yes the insulation your useing

I'm not sure the make of the shiny stuff, will find out, got it from wickes for £4 the, insulation that I've ordered off eBay is called rattlemat, its insulation/sound deadening

[rustic]

Will need to get a 12 volt free veiw box or somehow convert one that runs on 240 v so it'll work on 12.

We bought a mains powered free view box for the boat, and it had a mains to 5 volt adaptor, well it was easy to find an adaptor from 12 to 5 volts, and it works a treat.

You just need to do a bit of hunting to see what they run on.

Ryan,
With a bit of luck, this thread could turn into one of the more interesting threads on the forum.
Well done :clap:clap:clap:clap

Keep it up, and keep posting the pics.:thumbs

[makeitfit]

Like I said, there's no point getting an inverter only to reduce it back again to a few volts for the lappy, freeview box, fridge etc.:thumb2
Dual battery though I reckon :cool:

[96terrano]

Ryan,
With a bit of luck, this thread could turn into one of the more interesting threads on the forum.
Well done :clap:clap:clap:clap

Keep it up, and keep posting the pics.:thumbs

Well thanks very much:thumb2 yes its certainly different:lol, I'll keep supplying pics and vids,:thumbs what free veiw box did you buy?

[jims-terrano]

We bought a couple of set top boxes from Asda a couple of years ago and they are 12v input from the little wall wart. I doubt the packaging will tell you this info it'll be a case of explain to staff and ask if they can open the packaging and check the output voltage of the power supply.

[96terrano]

We bought a couple of set top boxes from Asda a couple of years ago and they are 12v input from the little wall wart. I doubt the packaging will tell you this info it'll be a case of explain to staff and ask if they can open the packaging and check the output voltage of the power supply.

Aye cheers, I've seen Propper vehicle one on eBay but there really pricey

[Fez_uk]

Most run off 5v or 12v. Most of the early ones had direct 240v in.

[96terrano]

Most run off 5v or 12v. Most of the early ones had direct 240v in.

Aye I've got one that's direct in, but it'll have a step down transformer in it.

[96terrano]

Have just found a cheap £10 240 v inverter, should do the job ok:D

Anyway, back on the camper topic, I'm going to continue installing insulation tomorrow

[zippy656]

Cheap inverters are rubish

Best are pure sign wave

[96terrano]

Yes, I've resided ill save up for a propper 300W one

[Lazy-Ferret]

Yes, I've resided ill save up for a propper 300W one

Remember Inverters draw a fair bit of current when the are plugged in, even when they are not actually running anything.. So make sure you fit a switch so you can turn off the 12v side.

Another thing is, most (Cheap?) inverters from my experience, will not run up if you have something already plugged into the mains side when you apply the 12 volt, so you need access to be able it switch off the mains side as well.

[96terrano]

Remember Inverters draw a fair bit of current when the are plugged in, even when they are not actually running anything.. So make sure you fit a switch so you can turn off the 12v side.

Another thing is, most (Cheap?) inverters from my experience, will not run up if you have something already plugged into the mains side when you apply the 12 volt, so you need access to be able it switch off the mains side as well.

Cheers, I just recived £30 for fixing a Renault master for a neighbor, I know what that's going on:D:D I can get a good 300W inverter now,

Thanks for the info, I'll have a switch in it as I'm making a switch panel, also, its probably going to be mounted under the front passenger or driver seat

[96terrano]

Teenagers, we are destructive little shits.:lol:lol

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[Lazy-Ferret]

While you have the dash out, you couldn't see if you can find where that bolt I dropped went?:lol:lol

[96terrano]

While you have the dash out, you couldn't see if you can find where that bolt I dropped went?:lol:lol

:lol:lol im changing the heater matrix and also putting in more wires:D

[96terrano]

more pics up:thumb2

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.560021394025285.141619.100000522887755&type=1&l=2aacfe0bd6

[rustic]

I wonder what bits you'll have left over when you have finished?:doh

[96terrano]

I wonder what bits you'll have left over when you have finished?:doh

Noo, don't say that :lol:lol

[rustic]

Nice to see a proper ratchet crimp tool being used.:thumbs:thumbs

Tip:

when passing wires over sharp edges, put some edging over the metal edge, I was particularly looking around your rear light cluster, but applies to all areas.:thumb2

[zippy656]

Nice to see a proper ratchet crimp tool being used.:thumbs

Ive on of them

[stinka]

Meh, I solder everything

[spiderpig37]

Will be watching to see what ideas i can nick ive just bought a 2000merc vito looking to put some windows and seats in back so will be paneling out maybe some leds in roof lining kids want me to turn it into a scooby do van

[96terrano]

Nice to see a proper ratchet crimp tool being used.:thumbs:thumbs

Tip:

when passing wires over sharp edges, put some edging over the metal edge, I was particularly looking around your rear light cluster, but applies to all areas.:thumb2

yes, so the wires dont rub and short:doh

yup, got proper crimp tool and proper £20 wire strippers

thanks for the tips:thumb2:bow

[96terrano]

just cycled to my white Terrano and nicked the metal heater pipes off it as there in better nick than the ones that were on my blue one 'Toby', bloody creepy cycling on the back roads at night:o

[96terrano]

a few more pics up,


https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.560021394025285.141619.100000522887755&type=1&l=2aacfe0bd6

[makeitfit]

Meh, I solder everything

Not always the best plan on trucks as the vibrations can cause solder joints to fracture. The wires work harden I was told when soldered up.

No expert on this, just regurgitating :augie

[rustic]

just cycled to my white Terrano and nicked the metal heater pipes off it as there in better nick than the ones that were on my blue one 'Toby', bloody creepy cycling on the back roads at night:o

Ah this is proper "recycling" then in all senses of the word:lol:lol

[96terrano]

Ah this is proper "recycling" then in all senses of the word:lol:lol

Haha yes :D:lol

[96terrano]

Not always the best plan on trucks as the vibrations can cause solder joints to fracture. The wires work harden I was told when soldered up.

No expert on this, just regurgitating :augie

I crimp everything:augie

[R1cho]

I crimp everything:augie

even his hair :augie :lol :lol :lol

[Lazy-Ferret]

even his hair :augie :lol :lol :lol
:lol:lol:clap

[makeitfit]

No crimping reqd mate, I'm naturally twisted :sly

[96terrano]

even his hair :augie :lol :lol :lol
Oi! Don't tell everyone:lol:lol:lol

[96terrano]

No crimping reqd mate, I'm naturally twisted :sly

Best way matey :naughty

[arcascomp]

No crimping reqd mate, I'm naturally twisted :sly

But like the drink, he ain't bitter :clap

[rustic]

But like the drink, he ain't bitter :clap

He's a rum one and he's scotch.

Actually, he's tee total:thumbs

[96terrano]

This thread will be updated when I start doing more of the camper conversion again, done the matrix and I'm now running wires, mounting relays etc :D

[zippy656]

Whats the layout going to be

[Fez_uk]

massive shagpile in the middle. Couple of glory holes in the doors.

[SPARKIEDOO]

massive shagpile in the middle. Couple of glory holes in the doors.

I LIKE YOUR THINKING :lol :lol

[zippy656]

massive shagpile in the middle. Couple of glory holes in the doors.

In the doors?


Daft place to have them

[96terrano]

Whats the layout going to be

Basically its going to be a normal terrano without the 3rd row in, when the rear seats are folded forward, my wood floor 'yet to build' will fit in leveling everything off, shove a mattress in and there you go:D, that's the design I've got in my head, I've yet to build it so could change, just now I'm putting in all the new wireing, I'm basically having a similar system to a caravan when it comes to electrics, I've got caravan lighting going in etc.

[Fez_uk]

In the doors?


Daft place to have them



na, easy access while you sleep

[96terrano]

Couple of glory holes in the doors.

Nah just speakers

[zippy656]

Seen this?

Maybe of help


http://www.camper-van-fun.com/build-your-own-camper.html

[Lazy-Ferret]

Seen this?

Maybe of help


http://www.camper-van-fun.com/build-your-own-camper.html
Thats quite an inspiring site. :thumbs

[96terrano]

Seen this?

Maybe of help


http://www.camper-van-fun.com/build-your-own-camper.html

Thanks for that:)

[makeitfit]

Just a few questions for you to think over. Where will the matress be stored while driving around?
How will the timber bed be stored with the seats up ?
Bedding needs to have somewhere safe and dry too.
Nothing worse than setting up camp only to find a soggy sleeping bag , eeuw.
Keep up the good work :thumbs

[96terrano]

Just a few questions for you to think over. Where will the matress be stored while driving around?
How will the timber bed be stored with the seats up ?
Bedding needs to have somewhere safe and dry too.
Nothing worse than setting up camp only to find a soggy sleeping bag , eeuw.
Keep up the good work :thumbs

Everything will be stored at home when not used:thumb2

[makeitfit]

I thought you'd say that :lol
Where will it be when you're on manoeuvres though ? :nenau

[96terrano]

I thought you'd say that :lol
Where will it be when you're on manoeuvres though ? :nenau

manoeuvres?

[jims-terrano]

manoeuvres?

Ahh bless:o

[96terrano]

Ahh bless:o

:nenau

[spiderpig37]

Just a few questions for you to think over. Where will the matress be stored while driving around?
How will the timber bed be stored with the seats up ?
Bedding needs to have somewhere safe and dry too.
Nothing worse than setting up camp only to find a soggy sleeping bag , eeuw.
Keep up the good work :thumbs

Blow up air bed would stow away neatly if you get one with a 12v pump that sucks the air out as well

[Fez_uk]

Get a decent t-max air pump, then can be used on tyres too.

I think Ryan is getting a nice water bed in the back.

[makeitfit]

Blow up air bed would stow away neatly if you get one with a 12v pump that sucks the air out as well

Nah air beds are pants :p
we've had loads of the ruddy things and I've spent more time repairing punctures inthem than all the kids bikes put together. We've moved on to the roll out mats now. They need 2 puffs to blow them up though :lol
Ultra comfy and take up hardly any room.
The point I was trying to make was, where does all this stuff go in the car while he's driving about looking for the festival, or worrying sheep off road ?
OR is the idea to make it into a bed before you leave home ?

[spiderpig37]

Nah air beds are pants :p
we've had loads of the ruddy things and I've spent more time repairing punctures inthem than all the kids bikes put together. We've moved on to the roll out mats now. They need 2 puffs to blow them up though :lol
Ultra comfy and take up hardly any room.
The point I was trying to make was, where does all this stuff go in the car while he's driving about looking for the festival, or worrying sheep off road ?
OR is the idea to make it into a bed before you leave home ?

No i get your point ive gone through a shed load aswell never chuck em away i split em and use them as ground sheets or sheeting the roof rack tried them thin ones cant get on with them
Saying that all festivels we go to you cant sleep in your cars you take a tent and camp in the sea of beer cans piss vomit happy days
Unlees you want to go glampping

[stinka]

Most festivals have a camper van area but it comes at a premium and I think its a VIP only thing

[makeitfit]

Come to think of it, who sleeps at a festival :lol

[96terrano]

Just got some thermal insulation/bubble wrap from wickes, cheers rustic:thumb2

[Banshee]

I'd like to do something like this to mine but it's only a SWB and wouldn't be a lot of space in the back.
I look forward to seeing your progress though Ryan :)

[96terrano]

Got half the dash back in, just need to finish it off tomorrow then the camper conversion continues:naughty

[Terranical]

Got half the dash back in, just need to finish it off tomorrow then the camper conversion continues:naughty
Just had a look through your pics Ryan, all I can say is, you're a braver man than I!

[96terrano]

Just had a look through your pics Ryan, all I can say is, you're a braver man than I!

Stupid more like :lol:lol:lol

[96terrano]

forgot to mention there's Some rambling vids on my YouTube as I'll keep updating on the camper progression:D

[96terrano]

Got up at sunrise and got me dash back in now :D....not all teenagers are lazy!

[Lazy-Ferret]

....not all teenagers are lazy!

Ohhh.. but you are so not.."All Teenagers" Ryan..:lol:lol:lol

As my mum would say, you are "Special":lol:lol

[arcascomp]

Started trying to get the rear most piece of carpet out last night. Got seat 6/7 out of the way, but the seat belt bolts are a real b1tch to move - seriously worried I'll snap them off.

Soaked inside and out with Plusgas and I guess I should get a wire brush onto the outside of the bolts. Any other suggestions on getting the barstewards to move without shearing them off in the nuts? :eek:

[Fez_uk]

heat

[Lazy-Ferret]

Failing the wire brush and Plusgas working, I am not sure of the practicalities of this, as mine have all come out fine, but maybe do them back up tight, and then cut the exposed thread off with an angle grinder. That will not only reduce how much bolt you have to undo, but generate a lot of heat to hopefully help free up the remainder as well.

[arcascomp]

I'll try a bit of heat, if nowt else it should burn off any crud built up on them, if that don't work I could try cutting them back.


I guess it's because they're in the line of fire of add the crud from the rear tyres. The ones for the rearmost seats came out fine when I removed them.

I tend to have kids in the truck quite a lot so I want to be certain that the belts are safe, one of the reasons to lift the carpet in the first place is to weld up the holes that we all seem to be finding down there. Would rather not have to cut out and rebuild a seat belt mount too if I can help it.

[makeitfit]

assuming it's the s/b bolts through the side of the truck then the quick way would be just cut the ends off. If you want to keep them then a bit more labour is needed. Tighten them up then blow torch and wire brush the exposed threads. Then plenty of plus gas wd40 etc and start undoing again. When you get to the stiff bit, tighten again then untighten a bit further and repeat. A bit like 3 turns forward, 2 turns back.
If they still wont come out cut the barstewards :sly
If the floor ones wont come out , but will turn some , then you undo them all you can. Cut the bolt head off, then cut a slot in the top of the bolt shaft :eek:
Then use a good screwdriver and tighten the bolt right out the hole :thumbs
Enjoy :D

[arcascomp]

Definitely going to try the heat and clean tonight - last night they were reluctantly moving a bit while being persuaded with a two foot breaker bar, but I was wary of overdoing it and shearing the buggers off.

If they still don't want to go and the metal they're in is all definitely sound, I'll just use a stanley knife and cut a couple of slits in the carpet - damn site easier!

Biggest issue I have at the moment; the seven new seats are acting as conservatory furniture and we have a family of four staying at the same time. Not 100% sure where I'm going to put the existing seats and carpets while I prep the floor for a bit of welding action on Saturday. I will probably go on the basis that "forgiveness is easier than permission".

Well, I'm not 100% sure I ever get forgiveness, acceptance maybe, but the main thing is I get what I want done! :D

[96terrano]

I've got the sound deadining in the roof and rear quarter panels now, have a look in the pics on my facebook:thumb2 still need to order some more and put it in the doors and other large spaces, then I'll. Stick the insulation on top of the sound deadining. Now when you knock on the roof and quarter panels thetes no tin sound, sounds like you're knocking on a brick wall :naughty

I've also got the dash back in place and I've installed 3 relays various electrics, ire put wiring up unto the roof and I'll need to get a compression gland?:nenau to put the wires through the roof without leaking

[96terrano]

better pics of the lead sound deadening, 2KG up there:augie i will be sticking silver insulating over the top of the deadining:D will be warm and quite, i'll be repeating the process in the doors and side panels

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[Fez_uk]

Nothing like soggy insulation

[Lazy-Ferret]

Soooo.. this sound deadening... is it to keep the noise from inside getting out, or the other way round.... Are you planing on this being a noisy passion wagon???:eek::lol:lol

[96terrano]

Nothing like soggy insulation

It's not soggy, its lead

[96terrano]

Soooo.. this sound deadening... is it to keep the noise from inside getting out, or the other way round.... Are you planing on this being a noisy passion wagon???:eek::lol:lol

Bit of both lol, got a 16 speaker stereo:naughty

[Fez_uk]

No but the insulation you plan to put on?

[96terrano]

No but the insulation you plan to put on?

That's, basically foil, won't absorb condensation

[96terrano]

update vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZVnxgRLifI


more pics
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.560021394025285.141619.100000522887755&type=1&l=2aacfe0bd6

[96terrano]

Done all the wiring in tobys roof today, just waiting for 2 roof lining air vents and a light to arive then after there fitted into the new roof lining, the roof lining will be fitted into Toby.


light
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170989351002?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619


Vents
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220483061014?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

[Lazy-Ferret]

Were are the vent's going, and what are they for...

I have a flettner vent fitted to the roof of mine, it helps demist the screen and in the summer makes sure the cool air from the aircon goes right to the back of the car, so the ferrets do not over heat on long journeys.

[96terrano]

Were are the vent's going, and what are they for...

I have a flettner fitted to the roof of mine, it helps demist the screen and in the summer makes sure the cool air from the aircon goes right to the back of the car, so the ferrets do not over heat on long journeys.

Vents are going next to the grab rails in the rear, its mainly for circulation sinse of the insulation, the lights are going next to the grab rails in the front

[Lazy-Ferret]

Vents are going next to the grab rails in the rear, its mainly for circulation sinse of the insulation, the lights are going next to the grab rails in the front

I see, so not vented to outside for fresh air...

[96terrano]

I see, so not vented to outside for fresh air...

Would be if I could, but no

[96terrano]

When I've got Toby all finished and build back up 'not long now' :D I'll start making curtains etc and putting in the comforts, been doing the behind the scenes things recently, also, I've thought of the storage idea, I'll use ex army surplus ammunition cases, also camo netting for the roof rack,, I'll make him like the Terranos that the army in Malta use lol

[briggie]

you could have a water bed too :naughty

[96terrano]

you could have a water bed too :naughty

Who says I'm not:naughty and erotic lighting:sly

[Lazy-Ferret]

you could have a water bed too :naughty

if he uses that socket in the roof, he will have :lol:lol

[96terrano]

if he uses that socket in the roof, he will have :lol:lol

-_-


:lol

[96terrano]

Another update, built my leveling floor today that fits into the back to make the entire floor flat from rear to to front seats:Dalso still waiting for the fight and vents so I can fit my roof lining, we are supposed yo get 3 days of rain starting Wednesday, but most of the work on my truck is interior so no problem their:D. Will keep updates until finished:)

[96terrano]

vents

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[kitchenman]

Pics of the flat floor please:bow

[96terrano]

it's not finished yet, getting the MDF tomorow to make it flat but just for you:D you fold the rear seats forward and it will fit in the back:thumb2



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[kitchenman]

Thanks for the pics, how do you intent to fix the front seats down? the bolt holes look like they are under the new floor.

Good use of old roof rack bars, I shall nick the idea.:lol

[exosteve]

that looks rather heavy duty.
Have you any rough sketches of the finished design?
I am not quite sure what your intending to put over that floor?
if its just a bed then why so heavy duty materials.
personaly. I would cut a lot of that metal out and have lift up storage compartments. even if it was just for a good tool kit.
I think I will go and start this read this thread from the start as I may be able to throw some good ideas your way. its what im good at.

[Fez_uk]

Yes, I'd also would of made small draw storage in the rear boot area, About a foot higher. Then the bed platform could probably lay on the rear 3 seats. Or if the seats were removed would allowed more storage under the bed platform where they were.

[Lazy-Ferret]

that looks rather heavy duty.
Have you any rough sketches of the finished design?
I am not quite sure what your intending to put over that floor?
if its just a bed then why so heavy duty materials.
personaly. I would cut a lot of that metal out and have lift up storage compartments. even if it was just for a good tool kit.
I think I will go and start this read this thread from the start as I may be able to throw some good ideas your way. its what im good at.

He is a teenager, and is building a passion wagon, so is hoping the bed will need to be that strong...:lol:lol

[exosteve]

that looks rather heavy duty.
Have you any rough sketches of the finished design?
I am not quite sure what your intending to put over that floor?
if its just a bed then why so heavy duty materials.
personaly. I would cut a lot of that metal out and have lift up storage compartments. even if it was just for a good tool kit.
I think I will go and start this read this thread from the start as I may be able to throw some good ideas your way. its what im good at.

got my beer googles on!
is that a strip of steel then a strip of timber then roof rack?
take out the strip of timber and use marine ply for the bed base which is the strength.
that will give you some very good storage space

[exosteve]

He is a teenager, and is building a passion wagon, so is hoping the bed will need to be that strong...:lol:lol

Thats a massive johny storage space then!.

[96terrano]

Ok to answer everyones remarks, its not finished yet, bear in mind its not staying as a camper permanently, its a heavy duty design as I'm wanting it to last, the roof rack was just some bars I had in me scrap metal pile, I'm getting some MDF tomoz and making the top flat, there is also storage space underneath the rig, and no, it doesn't intrude with the rear seats when they are in place, I still need to work ans perfect it:thumb2

[Fez_uk]

there is also storage space underneath the rig

Not much through, I still think having it about 1 foot higher would be better, You could also put it into camper mode within seconds.

I just think theres a better way also keeping the vehicle as a perfectly functional 5 seater.

[96terrano]

Not much through, I still think having it about 1 foot higher would be better, You could also put it into camper mode within seconds.

I just think theres a better way also keeping the vehicle as a perfectly functional 5 seater.

It is still going to be a functional 5 seater all you have to do is fold the front seats forwards and slot the floor in :)

[Fez_uk]

It is still going to be a functional 5 seater all you have to do is fold the front seats forwards and slot the floor in :)

Yes, I am aware but you loose all the storage space that could go in the draws and under the bed.

If you plan on using it as a overlander you need plenty of storage

[96terrano]

Yes, I am aware but you loose all the storage space that could go in the draws and under the bed.

If you plan on using it as a overlander you need plenty of storage

Ahh I see what you mean now:doh hmmm yeah, I might be able the change the design a little to incorporate under bed storage

[Fez_uk]

This is what I mean, Something similar.

This makes me wish I bought a LWB :(

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa211/beaukrista/4x4/Rear%20Platform/DSCF6618.jpg

[makeitfit]

I did mine for tools and offroading gear but could easily have been set higher to allow storage underneath.
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv36/daudwpsyn/Photo239-1.jpg
Go for a metal support rail (like your rooff racks) and bolt them to the side of the truck. Then put some ply ( much stronger than mdf) on the rails, simples :thumb2
Here you can see my alu rail along the side
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv36/daudwpsyn/Photo236.jpg

[96terrano]

In probably going to mod/ extend mine to be simular to Pete's only mine will not be bolted in

[96terrano]

He is a teenager, and is building a passion wagon, so is hoping the bed will need to be that strong...:lol:lol

I'm also fitting curtains too so nobody will ever know what'll be going on within:naughty:naughty

[rustic]

I'm also fitting curtains too so nobody will ever know what'll be going on within:naughty:naughty

If the boat's a rockin... don't come knockin...:augie

Maybe some caravan corner steadies, will also help with levelling too.
What about water storage, small sink, bucket and chuck it.

You really need to consider ventilation, the boat roof ones are worth considering, some you can screw down from the inside to fully seal them.

Don't rely on open windows, they will let the rain in, easy to force open from the outside.

Some lighting, with switches reachable from the bed.
Think about how to lock/ unlock the doors as you get into bed. Where will your wet muddy shoes be after getting into the back?

Think about how a typical day will pan out. You wake up it is raining, you want a hot drink, visit to the loo, wash hands etc get dressed. Practice putting trousers on whilst lying on the floor, I have gone past that stage, I want/need full standing headroom, hot water, and a shower in the morning, a hot drink, breakfast...
Change of clothes, a shave, proper loo facilities.

Maybe a loo tent:nenau.



Now...
Full standing headroom, hmmmm, when I was young, we had a Bedford dormobile, it had a GRP lift up roof, with vinyl sides, in the roof were 2 fold out camp beds.

Now if you cut out the roof section, had a tilting or lifting roof.
Don't know how this would affect the strength though:eek:


I bet this has got you thinking....:confused:


best regards,

Rustic


edit, what you could do... is have a trailer, with high sides, maybe windows, with a door, table, bed, loo, all with standing head room, battery, water, sink, cooker, heating, fridge...even a shower, hot water, even electric hook up. Corner steadies.

Oh and maybe you could find something like, this pre made using modern lightweight materials. That way you won't need to convert the car each time, and you can just hitch it up.
If you look carefully on the motorways in the summer, you often see box like structures like this being towed behind all types of car. There are also special sites where you can put them too.

Our boat has all these facilities, and I wouldn't rough it again. But Hey Ho... you are still young, comfort comes later in life.

I still like your project though... Good luck with it.:thumbs:thumbs


.

[spiderpig37]

This is what I mean, Something similar.

This makes me wish I bought a LWB :(

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa211/beaukrista/4x4/Rear%20Platform/DSCF6618.jpg

Thats the idea i would go for use the back of the folded down seats as your height for your rear storage area and when folded down this becomes your bed area you could screw some ply to the back of the seats to form a firm bed base
Fold down shelf attatched to back door to take your cooker sit on back step and brew up

[makeitfit]

Thats the idea i would go for use the back of the folded down seats as your height for your rear storage area and when folded down this becomes your bed area you could screw some ply to the back of the seats to form a firm bed base
Fold down shelf attatched to back door to take your cooker sit on back step and brew up

Good idea, saves all that tedious taking the bed etc in and out all the time. Keep your needed stuff in the drawers .

[96terrano]

If the boat's a rockin... don't come knockin...:augie

Maybe some caravan corner steadies, will also help with levelling too.
What about water storage, small sink, bucket and chuck it.

You really need to consider ventilation, the boat roof ones are worth considering, some you can screw down from the inside to fully seal them.

Don't rely on open windows, they will let the rain in, easy to force open from the outside.

Some lighting, with switches reachable from the bed.
Think about how to lock/ unlock the doors as you get into bed. Where will your wet muddy shoes be after getting into the back?

Think about how a typical day will pan out. You wake up it is raining, you want a hot drink, visit to the loo, wash hands etc get dressed. Practice putting trousers on whilst lying on the floor, I have gone past that stage, I want/need full standing headroom, hot water, and a shower in the morning, a hot drink, breakfast...
Change of clothes, a shave, proper loo facilities.

Maybe a loo tent:nenau.



Now...
Full standing headroom, hmmmm, when I was young, we had a Bedford dormobile, it had a GRP lift up roof, with vinyl sides, in the roof were 2 fold out camp beds.

Now if you cut out the roof section, had a tilting or lifting roof.
Don't know how this would affect the strength though:eek:


I bet this has got you thinking....:confused:


best regards,

Rustic


edit, what you could do... is have a trailer, with high sides, maybe windows, with a door, table, bed, loo, all with standing head room, battery, water, sink, cooker, heating, fridge...even a shower, hot water, even electric hook up. Corner steadies.

Oh and maybe you could find something like, this pre made using modern lightweight materials. That way you won't need to convert the car each time, and you can just hitch it up.
If you look carefully on the motorways in the summer, you often see box like structures like this being towed behind all types of car. There are also special sites where you can put them too.

Our boat has all these facilities, and I wouldn't rough it again. But Hey Ho... you are still young, comfort comes later in life.

I still like your project though... Good luck with it.:thumbs:thumbs


.

Got me brain working:lol I'll be doing a raised floor with storage now, :thumb2

[Lazy-Ferret]

edit, what you could do... is have a trailer, with high sides, maybe windows, with a door, table, bed, loo, all with standing head room, battery, water, sink, cooker, heating, fridge...even a shower, hot water, even electric hook up. Corner steadies.

Oh and maybe you could find something like, this pre made using modern lightweight materials. That way you won't need to convert the car each time, and you can just hitch it up.
If you look carefully on the motorways in the summer, you often see box like structures like this being towed behind all types of car. There are also special sites where you can put them too.

Our boat has all these facilities, and I wouldn't rough it again. But Hey Ho... you are still young, comfort comes later in life.

I still like your project though... Good luck with it.:thumbs:thumbs


.

I've seen those.... Often with a long queue of traffic behind them... I think they call them "horse boxes"....:lol:lol

[96terrano]

Can't be bothered building a raised floor just now, going to work on the interior 1st then build it properly

[96terrano]

front over head lights and vents in place

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[96terrano]

got my new roof lining back in today, also fitted a light unit from a honda jazz in the back, came from the same jazz im going to get parts off for ours :D


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[makeitfit]

Looking good, did you find a way to connect the vents in the end ?

[96terrano]

Looking good, did you find a way to connect the vents in the end ?

Nope, but I found that air blows through from the sunroof when driving, so it does actually work sort of:eek:

[makeitfit]

Somethingneeds adjusting on the sunroof then I'd guess :augie

[96terrano]

Somethingneeds adjusting on the sunroof then I'd guess :augie

Yes I think so, doesn't leak tho, only thing I've done with it is smothered all the runners and moving parts in multipurpose grease, what a difference its made, runs moves really quickly and effortlessly and the motor sounds like its running is 24 volts :lol

[spiderpig37]

Could you not use one of those twiryl vents you see on vans:nenau

[96terrano]

Could you not use one of those twiryl vents you see on vans:nenau

Have you seen the price of them tho :eek:

[Lazy-Ferret]

Could you not use one of those twiryl vents you see on vans:nenau

That's what I have at the back of mine, a flettner one, it really draws the Air con through in the summer, and helps the demister in the winter..

[96terrano]

How did you fit it?

[Lazy-Ferret]

How did you fit it?

My radio aerial is at the back, in the roof, so I put the flettner just to the front of that. Before I started, I made up a marine ply wooden spacer to take up the gap between roof, and the liner, and painted it, making sure to do the edges really well.

I Then used a circular hole saw to cut the big hole in the roof (worst moment ever starting to drill a hole that size in the roof), then once the hole was cut, I painted the edges, then used silicon sealant to fix and seal the wooden spacer to the roof. The 3 screws that hold the vent on, go right through from the top, to the bottom, so once fitted the roof, spacer, and roof lining are all sandwiched together, between the inside vent and outside rotatory fan. The inside vent has a slide switch to open and close it, but so far I have never needed to shut it.

[96terrano]

My radio aerial is at the back, in the roof, so I put the flettner just to the front of that. Before I started, I made up a marine ply wooden spacer to take up the gap between roof, and the liner, and painted it, making sure to do the edges really well.

I Then used a circular hole saw to cut the big hole in the roof (worst moment ever starting to drill a hole that size in the roof), then once the hole was cut, I painted the edges, then used silicon sealant to fix and seal the wooden spacer to the roof. The 3 screws that hold the vent on, go right through from the top, to the bottom, so once fitted the roof, spacer, and roof lining are all sandwiched together, between the inside vent and outside rotatory fan. The inside vent has a slide switch to open and close it, but so far I have never needed to shut it.
Hmmm sounds rather good that, have you got any pics? I might look towards doing it on mine, also it'll keep the dog cool too

[rustic]

Hmmm sounds rather good that, have you got any pics? I might look towards doing it on mine, also it'll keep the dog cool too

If it is rotating, then they also rotate at night, and the noise will keep you awake.

So you need some way of stopping it, if it gets too noisy.
Like I said, consider the marine type as well.

[Lazy-Ferret]

I'll take some pictures later, about to pop out today. The original reason I installed it was for the ferrets when we travel with them in the back, so it would be perfect for a dog.

If it is rotating, then they also rotate at night, and the noise will keep you awake.

So you need some way of stopping it, if it gets too noisy.
Like I said, consider the marine type as well.

Not sure if it is how I have mounted it, but I have been very surprised, as I do not get any noise from it at all... I often sit in the car, when waiting for my Wife at the train station, and even in wind that has been rocking the car, I have never heard the Flettner. Stopping it would only take a poundshop rubber wedge popped against it, if you really needed to.

As I say, not sure if it is because I went for the good make, or if it is the way it is installed, but very pleased with it.

[makeitfit]

If it's a noisey thing at night just poke a stick in it :thumb2 simples :sly

[96terrano]

well i charged the battery up on me terrano and started it and everything works exept the interior lights dont shut off:doh have to turn them off by pulling the fuse, think its the light timer again:rolleyes: but apart from this, me new lighting works well:D

[96terrano]

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[Lazy-Ferret]

well i charged the battery up on me terrano and started it and everything works exept the interior lights dont shut off:doh have to turn them off by pulling the fuse, think its the light timer again:rolleyes: but apart from this, me new lighting works well:D

I would think that with all that extra current from all the new bulbs, you have blown the output transistor of the dimmer.

You will either:-
Need to change the bulbs to non-canbus led's, so you reduce the current being drawn from it.
Take some off the dimmer, and add them on a relay, so they just turn on and off without dimming,
Or, have a look in the timer/dimmer unit and see if you can uprate the output transistor so it can cope with the extra current.

[96terrano]

I would think that with all that extra current from all the new bulbs, you have blown the output transistor of the dimmer.

You will either:-
Need to change the bulbs to non-canbus led's, so you reduce the current being drawn from it.
Take some off the dimmer, and add them on a relay, so they just turn on and off without dimming,
Or, have a look in the timer/dimmer unit and see if you can uprate the output transistor so it can cope with the extra current.

sorted, was a bad earth:D

all the extra lights are on a separate circuit

[rustic]

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Come on Ryan, you can do a neater job with that trim around the sun roof.

Remove the strip from that far corner, and back to the loose end.

NOW...
Start with butt joining the ends, then work the trim into the corners, you will find that with a good push that corner will fit properly, and there will be no overlap or gap at the butt ends.:thumbs

PS
I like your lights at the side.

The Mav does suffer from not having enough light over the driver, to say even read a map.
Where are they from?

Best regards,

Rustic

[96terrano]

Come on Ryan, you can do a neater job with that trim around the sun roof.

Remove the strip from that far corner, and back to the loose end.

NOW...
Start with butt joining the ends, then work the trim into the corners, you will find that with a good push that corner will fit properly, and there will be no overlap or gap at the butt ends.:thumbs

PS
I like your lights at the side.

The Mav does suffer from not having enough light over the driver, to say even read a map.
Where are they from?

Best regards,

Rustic

its back in properly now:thumb2 lights are the number-plate illuminations from a rover 100 metro

[96terrano]

switch for overhead sunroof lights, switch is illuminated blue and mounted in center console

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Interior is all finished and rebuild, exept the rear quater panels in the boot, still wiring, now I can start building my bed and floor storage:D also there's no carpet as I'm doing somthing different

[jims-terrano]

Interior is all finished and rebuild, exept the rear quater panels in the boot, still wiring, now I can start building my bed and floor storage:D also there's no carpet as I'm doing somthing different

Cool he's gonna do laminate on the floor:lol

Hey well done so far:thumbs

[makeitfit]

Ryan this could be different :D http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=922v6oWNTaqRoM:&imgrefurl=http://parador.jovoto.com/ideas/22974&docid=rXDt3W_yeL1W4M&imgurl=http://uploads.jovo.to/idea_attachments/521924/lego-4_bigger.jpg%253F1338377997&w=974&h=1000&ei=DXQ-Ud7LC-mQ7Ab0zICADQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:14,s:0,i:119&iact=rc&dur=3468&page=1&tbnh=180&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=15&tx=101&ty=106

[stinka]

Ryan this could be different :D http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=922v6oWNTaqRoM:&imgrefurl=http://parador.jovoto.com/ideas/22974&docid=rXDt3W_yeL1W4M&imgurl=http://uploads.jovo.to/idea_attachments/521924/lego-4_bigger.jpg%253F1338377997&w=974&h=1000&ei=DXQ-Ud7LC-mQ7Ab0zICADQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:14,s:0,i:119&iact=rc&dur=3468&page=1&tbnh=180&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=15&tx=101&ty=106

Lol, they do some great themed flooring for kids rooms :D

[makeitfit]

Lol, they do some great themed flooring for kids rooms :D
That's what I thought :thumb2

[96terrano]

Lol, they do some great themed flooring for kids rooms :D

Awww yeah brill idea:lol:lol:augie

I'm wanting to do a rubber floor like you find in horse boxes so it can be remover and hosed out easily :D

[briggie]

rubber ? ..... hm :naughty;)

[makeitfit]

Awww yeah brill idea:lol:lol:augie

I'm wanting to do a rubber floor like you find in horse boxes so it can be remover and hosed out easily :D

Here you go boyo 2m of this should do it http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120931521974?var=420081491153&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[Fez_uk]

just use some rubber floor mats.

[96terrano]

Here you go boyo 2m of this should do it http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120931521974?var=420081491153&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Not bad that:thumb2

[96terrano]

Ran out of money so work has stopped:rolleyes:, spent £141 in a month.

[(RIP) PLANK]

we have loads of that ribbed rubber flooring stuff and it's a b**ger to keep clean, you can only sweep it in the direction of the ribs and it o catch all the rubbish in the grooves, go for something smooth like a decent cushion floor or lino :thumb2

[kitchenman]

This may look nice

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tarkett-Living-Chequer-Plate-2m-Wide-Vinyl-Lino-Cushion-Flooring-Kitchen-WC-/221196128935?pt=UK_Home_Garden_FittedCarpets_Under lay_SM&var=&hash=item33805112a7

[96terrano]

Well, my mate and I borrowed:sly some wood and mdf last night from a caravan park that was due to be burned so the storage/floor will only cost in hinges/screws....pennies:D

[darryl]

Well, my mate and I borrowed:sly some wood and mdf last night from a caravan park that was due to be burned so the storage/floor will only cost in hinges/screws....pennies:D

and diesel if you fill the back end off the truck with mdf weighs quite a bit ps if your fixing to the edges pre drill mdf first:thumb2

[stinka]

and diesel if you fill the back end off the truck with mdf weighs quite a bit ps if your fixing to the edges pre drill mdf first:thumb2

I always use them reiser/spax or B&Q turbo gold with the cutter tip, don't need to pilot then even in end grain mdf.

Always screw 75mm from the end when screwing in to mdf end grain as if it does start splitting it won't go all the way to end

Darryl knows all this shit anyway, its just for Ryan's benefit incase he don't :)

[96terrano]

I always use them reiser/spax or B&Q turbo gold with the cutter tip, don't need to pilot then even in end grain mdf.

Always screw 75mm from the end when screwing in to mdf end grain as if it does start splitting it won't go all the way to end

Darryl knows all this shit anyway, its just for Ryan's benefit incase he don't :)

Nope, I didn't, thanks guys!

[darryl]

also make sure tobys watertight when off roading u don't wanna get water round mdf mate:thumb2

[zippy656]

Pics needed now then

[96terrano]

also make sure tobys watertight when off roading u don't wanna get water round mdf mate:thumb2

don't worry, he is, the sleeping frame thingymabob will be able to be taken out too so can still be used as 5 or 7 seater

[96terrano]

Pics needed now then

will start building it after the snow clears:D

[kitchenman]

You can reduce the change of splitting MDF if you use a wall plug, drill the correct size hole, 10mm too deep so the dust does not block the plug

[rustic]

You can reduce the change of splitting MDF if you use a wall plug, drill the correct size hole, 10mm too deep so the dust does not block the plug

Talking of dust...
Avoid breathing it, wear a mask, when cutting, sanding etc

Be aware when you sleep, you will sweat a few pints of water over night, on our boat we find " condensation " below even a plywood base, so seal the MDF with an MDF sealer.

[darryl]

Talking of dust...
Avoid breathing it, wear a mask, when cutting, sanding etc

Be aware when you sleep, you will sweat a few pints of water over night, on our boat we find " condensation " below even a plywood base, so seal the MDF with an MDF sealer.

I should of said that myself about sealing the mdf:thumb2

[96terrano]

floor/bed done, still needs carpeted, painted and hinges etc

[96terrano]

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storage space

[96terrano]

this will be hinged

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[96terrano]

done more work on my storage today as well as yesterday and got it 80% complete, just need to carpet it all and wire up the light i fitted underneath so illuminate the storage ares and then its finished, as you can see i borrowed some caravan pillows to test it, will get a custom pillow/matress made.......or a water bad:lol:lol:lol:naughty:naughty:naughty

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[darryl]

this will be hinged

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might be worth fixing rail to mdf first as direct fixing of hinges in mdf aint very good mate well in my opinion:thumb2

[MudLifeCrisis]

How long is that bed?

[96terrano]

How long is that bed?

just over 2 meters :thumb2

[96terrano]

might be worth fixing rail to mdf first as direct fixing of hinges in mdf aint very good mate well in my opinion:thumb2

dont worry its thick strong mdf, there's no cracking or bending when open

[makeitfit]

dont worry its thick strong mdf, there's no cracking or bending when open

No such thing :lol
If you must screw into it , don't screw into the "end grain". Instead, predrill and screw into the flat sides and use piano hinge to spread the load :thumbs

[96terrano]

No such thing :lol
If you must screw into it , don't screw into the "end grain". Instead, predrill and screw into the flat sides and use piano hinge to spread the load :thumbs

Thats what I've done, I used fat wide hinges:D, I'll put a pic up tomorrow:thumb2

[MudLifeCrisis]

just over 2 meters :thumb2

Thats surprising . Sitting here trying to picture mine with the seats folded. Didnt think it would be that much.

Brian

[darryl]

this will be hinged

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tobys gonna way quite heavy on the back end mate by the time hes finished gonna cost a bit more in diesel or veg whatever ur choice:augie ps have u used the left hand side bearer for tamping concrete recently:lol

[96terrano]

tobys gonna way quite heavy on the back end mate by the time hes finished gonna cost a bit more in diesel or veg whatever ur choice:augie ps have u used the left hand side bearer for tamping concrete recently:lol

Lol, this bed/storage is only in the vehicle when needed, its nor perminant, can slide in and out, and that's paint on the LH bearer, used to be a fence:lol, will all be sanded down and carpeted :thumb2

[makeitfit]

Probably weighs less without the rear seats in, they weigh a ton :eek:

[96terrano]

Probably weighs less without the rear seats in, they weigh a ton :eek:

Bloody right they do!

[MudLifeCrisis]

Or a few Scottish birds sitting in th back :lol :lol

[makeitfit]

That mdf aint taking ANY scottish birds :lol

[darryl]

Probably weighs less without the rear seats in, they weigh a ton :eek:

dunno mate looks like 18mm mdf I work with the stuff now and again and its heavy put that and the rest of the timber together I reckon and might be wrong that it will be heavier than rear seats:thumb2

[darryl]

That mdf aint taking ANY scottish birds :lol

:lol:lol

[makeitfit]

dunno mate looks like 18mm mdf I work with the stuff now and again and its heavy put that and the rest of the timber together I reckon and might be wrong that it will be heavier than rear seats:thumb2

So do I and I reckon a full sheet of 18mm mdf is less than the back seat :p
Ryan do us a favour and weigh the back sets for us mate, I've got a pint on it :sly

[96terrano]

So do I and I reckon a full sheet of 18mm mdf is less than the back seat :p
Ryan do us a favour and weigh the back sets for us mate, I've got a pint on it :sly
but there bolted in:augie, I'd guess 14 to 16 kg each

[96terrano]

That mdf aint taking ANY scottish birds :lol

It's bloody strong doesn't bend when I'm on it, bear in mind there's a wooden frame work as well:thumb2, I'm about 45 kg

[makeitfit]

No I meant the back back seats, the ones that are NOT there :lol
45kg ? :eek: bag of coal :lol

[96terrano]

No I meant the back back seats, the ones that are NOT there :lol
45kg ? :eek: bag of coal :lol

Ahh, the 3rd row:rolleyes:, yes, I would guess about 30kg

[MudLifeCrisis]

45kg ? :eek: bag of coal :lol


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